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(Discover)   If you were thinking, "What's the deal with this Higgs Boson? And can somebody explain it to me in cartoon form?" well... you're welcome   (blogs.discovermagazine.com) divider line
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2012-07-04 6:07:10 PM  

t3knomanser: phalamir: We found the body, and can stop looking. it isn't going to likely do anything spectacularly different - it's existence has always been part of the Standard Model, so nothing "changed" today. The more likely game-changer will be when the LHC pops out something we don't expect

Which also happened with this announcement- the decay into a pair of gamma photons happened with a frequency greater than predicted by the Standard Model. That could mean a number of things, including a pointer to a whole set of new particles not predicted by the Standard Model. Or it could just be experimental bias, or a bunch of other things. The important point is: things did change.


But they still won't make the delirious Space Nutter fantasies a reality.
 
2012-07-04 6:12:10 PM  

rico567: Wayne 985: I still can't help but think that most Americans won't get this on any level. I can just imagine people reading a headline and assuming scientists discovered God or something.

Thus demonstrating someone else's intellectual superiority....why, that would be YOU, wouldn't it? You smart guy, you......


Yes, I confess. I do, in fact, think I'm smarter than someone who sees "God particle" and celebrates scientists proving God's existence. Also, I am smarter than a potato.
 
2012-07-04 6:13:56 PM  
Being an olde phart, I remember (I was young) when the existence of quarks was confirmed. Even a few years later, in a physics course in college, the professor was still as excited as a little boy at Christmas when he talked about quarks. While this stuff is fascinating to a lot of people (myself included), this cartoon is about as much depth as we're going to understand. Nicely done.

As someone who reads nearly the complete works of Dr Seuss to his grandchildren, I'm wondering if this will turn into a "Horton Hears a Who" moment when we figure out that these subatomic particles are actually conglomerations of much smaller particles. Remember, it wasn't that long ago (relatively speaking) that atoms were theoretical.
 
2012-07-04 6:16:57 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Better:

[i.imgur.com image 320x480]


BWAHAHAHHAAHHA.

Abortions for everyone \o/!!!1
 
2012-07-04 6:17:16 PM  
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Higgs boson walks into a church. The priest says, "We don't want your kind in here. We worship God, not 'god particles'!"

The Higgs boson replied, "Then how can you have mass?"
 
2012-07-04 6:17:16 PM  
I like to think of myself as a pretty smart person, but whenever a physicist tries to explain particle physics to me I feel like my cat trying to comprehend internal combustion.
 
2012-07-04 6:18:02 PM  

The Green Intern: I'm still lost, and I feel like an idiot for being lost.

I get that it's a major event. I understand that it's going to have profound effects on our understanding of just about everything related to the physical world. But what does it mean on an applied level? Does it give clues to FTL travel? Atomic-scale transistors? Macro-scale atoms? Someone told me that it proves the weak nuclear force and magnetism are the same thing on different scales. If that's the case, could we build atomic structures like lego bricks? Hold structures together with magnetic mortar?

I appreciate and applaud the fact that it was found and indicates the existence of the Higgs Field, but there's been so much build-up over this thing and what seems to be little explanation of what it means beyond "validation of a theory".

/nttawwt



The Higgs Boson exists to interact with a permeating structure throughout all of the universe (The Higgs Field). The more "interaction" going on, the greater the mass an object will have. Wiki Page

I'm no expert of course, I just find this stuff interesting. In my head I'm thinking that if we understood the interaction going on between the Higgs Boson and the Higgs field, perhaps we could minimize the interactions in a given location of the field and thus, minimize the mass of an object in order to more easily propel it to velocities near that of light.

You might notice that gravity is also altered as a result of the mass of two objects in a system. So, zero G systems? Deep space flight? I don't know, but it's exciting.
 
2012-07-04 6:20:39 PM  

elffster: Abortions for everyone \o/!!!1


This is July 4th, so how about abortions for some, and miniature American flags for others?
 
2012-07-04 6:23:59 PM  
I NEVER THOUGHT LOSING WEIGHT WOULD BE SO EASY!!
I LOST 1 GeV IN ONE WEEK ON NEW HIGGS DIET!!

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SEND 10000$ TO MIRIAM ABACHA FOR THE SECRET
HOW TO GET GOD TO DECLARE YOU THIN!!
 
2012-07-04 6:26:32 PM  
God particle:
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God most closely resembling god particle:
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2012-07-04 6:28:22 PM  

gerbilpox: I NEVER THOUGHT LOSING WEIGHT WOULD BE SO EASY!!
I LOST 1 GeV IN ONE WEEK ON NEW HIGGS DIET!!

SEND 10000$ TO MIRIAM ABACHA FOR THE SECRET
HOW TO GET GOD TO DECLARE YOU THIN!!


Warning: This is a scam. They make it sound easy, but it takes a lot of energy, and you wind up having to work your mass off.
 
2012-07-04 6:30:23 PM  

MrKevvy: AdolfOliverPanties: I want to know where the word boson came from.

Named after Bose.


And here I thought it was named after the guy in charge of the anchors and ropes... Seemed appropriate.

/not really
 
2012-07-04 6:33:35 PM  

Anagrammer: elffster: Abortions for everyone \o/!!!1

This is July 4th, so how about abortions for some, and miniature American flags for others?


As long as I get milkshake....OKS!!!
 
2012-07-04 6:35:20 PM  

WhoGAS: So this means that ghosts are simply the active particles outside the three dominant ones becoming active. Absolutely nothing supernatural; just another state of "being". Who knows about consciousness with those things...

Cool.

/...


Your scientists have yet to discover how neural networks create self-consciousness, let alone how the human brain processes two-dimensional retinal images into the three-dimensional phenomenon known as perception. Yet you somehow brazenly declare that seeing is believing!
 
2012-07-04 6:42:41 PM  
I there supposed to be some sort of content in the big, empty white space on that page?

I hate flash so much. If you can't say it with text, GIFs, and JPGs, don't count on your message getting through.
 
2012-07-04 6:47:53 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Watched the cartoon. Well done. Still completely lost.


Agreed. I know just enough to know this is huge, and like someone else pointed out, its importance is going to escape most people.
 
2012-07-04 6:52:51 PM  
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2012-07-04 7:08:15 PM  

Mr. Right: Being an olde phart, I remember (I was young) when the existence of quarks was confirmed. Even a few years later, in a physics course in college, the professor was still as excited as a little boy at Christmas when he talked about quarks. While this stuff is fascinating to a lot of people (myself included), this cartoon is about as much depth as we're going to understand. Nicely done.

As someone who reads nearly the complete works of Dr Seuss to his grandchildren, I'm wondering if this will turn into a "Horton Hears a Who" moment when we figure out that these subatomic particles are actually conglomerations of much smaller particles. Remember, it wasn't that long ago (relatively speaking) that atoms were theoretical.


It's turtles all the way down.

And I keep on reading "Higgs Boson" as "Higgs Bison." I just the like the idea that a cosmic bison is going around sprinkling everything with magic glitter and giving it mass. Like a bovinae fairy godmother.

/I'm sober
//no, really, I am.
 
2012-07-04 7:12:03 PM  
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I don't get it.
 
2012-07-04 7:14:20 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Watched the cartoon. Well done. Still completely lost.

I want to know where the word boson came from.


you're welcome

boson
 
2012-07-04 7:15:50 PM  
I'm sure it's cool, I'm sure it's meaningful, but it's just jibberish to me at this point.
 
2012-07-04 7:16:23 PM  
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/YES!!!
 
2012-07-04 7:19:33 PM  
for me to understand this I need to understand quarks and the Standard Model first. Since I do not understand either I am not going to try and understand HB in it's entirety.
 
2012-07-04 7:21:25 PM  
someone care to explain this table to us with less mass ?

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2012-07-04 7:24:38 PM  
Ha!
 
2012-07-04 7:29:41 PM  

The Green Intern: I get that it's a major event. I understand that it's going to have profound effects on our understanding of just about everything related to the physical world. But what does it mean on an applied level? Does it give clues to FTL travel? Atomic-scale transistors? Macro-scale atoms? Someone told me that it proves the weak nuclear force and magnetism are the same thing on different scales. If that's the case, could we build atomic structures like lego bricks? Hold structures together with magnetic mortar?


Someone told you wrong, it's already well known that electromagnetism and the weak force are part of the same force at a different energy scale. And we're already building molecular scale transistors. FTL travel always occurs when you go over for a booty call and then it somehow gets cancelled or cockblocked. Verification of the Higgs mechanism won't necessarily lead to any further applied science any time soon, just like the knowledge of the existence of the neutron has little impact on our understanding of photosynthesis.
 
2012-07-04 7:29:43 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Watched the cartoon. Well done. Still completely lost.

I want to know where the word boson came from.


It's taken from the name of an Indian physicist, a contemporary of Einstein's, name Bose. Really. Same as fermions are named for Fermi.
 
2012-07-04 7:30:42 PM  
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2012-07-04 7:40:07 PM  

vodka: FuturePastNow: I don't know why, but I can never get Vimeo videos embedded in other sites to play. I always have to go to the video's own page.

I have found it's usually because of AdBlock, Flashblock or some combination. On this particular page I don't even see there is a video at all in Firefox even with all scripts enabled. In Chrome I can see it but it won't play (have Flashblock and Adblock there too).


My Palm phone didn't even show anything missing either.
 
2012-07-04 7:41:14 PM  
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2012-07-04 7:42:43 PM  
OK, but I'm still waiting for someone to tell me why it's called a "boson."
 
2012-07-04 7:44:38 PM  

Dreamless: OK, but I'm still waiting for someone to tell me why it's called a "boson."


"Boss-on"?
 
2012-07-04 7:49:45 PM  

Dreamless: OK, but I'm still waiting for someone to tell me why it's called a "boson."


If you're unable to type "boson" into google, physics may be beyond your grasp anyways.

/it's named after a person, bose, who realized that the statistics of certain kinds of particles may be different at low or high energy scales...
 
2012-07-04 7:49:47 PM  

Dreamless: OK, but I'm still waiting for someone to tell me why it's called a "boson."


LOOK IT UP, YOU LAZY fark.
 
2012-07-04 7:52:40 PM  
What's the deal with airline food? Can it explain THAT?
 
2012-07-04 7:57:39 PM  

Mega Steve: What's the deal with airline food? Can it explain THAT?


it's made in a black box
 
2012-07-04 8:00:53 PM  
People should be afraid. They should be very afraid. I mean, seriously. The "god" in "god particle" is not the christian god. It is Shiva the Destroyer!
 
2012-07-04 8:02:58 PM  

proteus_b: Dreamless: OK, but I'm still waiting for someone to tell me why it's called a "boson."

If you're unable to type "boson" into google, physics may be beyond your grasp anyways.

/it's named after a person, bose, who realized that the statistics of certain kinds of particles may be different at low or high energy scales...


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2012-07-04 8:05:28 PM  
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2012-07-04 8:06:51 PM  
Mind is mass.

;)
 
2012-07-04 8:08:35 PM  
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2012-07-04 8:25:08 PM  
I guess I'll have to take it on faith that they found it.
 
2012-07-04 8:32:44 PM  
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2012-07-04 8:35:33 PM  
What's all this about a Higgins Boson?

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2012-07-04 8:37:01 PM  

gojirast: What's all this about a Higgins Boson?

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Hidggs was a great butler.

Hidggs rocked.

Heh.

;)

P.S. Happy Independence Day.
 
2012-07-04 8:41:31 PM  
Found me!
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2012-07-04 8:55:51 PM  
Particle physics isn't my field but Im very glad to see a scientific achievement being discussed and getting attention. Perhaps it will get more people thinking that more funding needs to go to the sciences specifically fundamental research and education.

Super cool.
I want to play at CERN.
 
2012-07-04 9:04:21 PM  

Damili: [i148.photobucket.com image 400x400]


Would Sherman really misspell "allowed"?
 
2012-07-04 9:05:30 PM  
Congratulations, physicists. Maybe you can finally have a fundamental theory for your field that is as well supported as the Theory of Evolution is for biology. >:D

/seriously, though, this is cool stuff and a great time for science. :)
 
2012-07-04 9:06:05 PM  
So to put a scientific question out there, now that they have the Higgs Boson, there is 13 particles right? And it seems that all the other particles interact in pairs.

So are scientists now waiting for another particle to pop out? I have not seen any talk about that, any ideas on this?
 
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