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(Boston Herald)   Forty climate activists ripped up John's driveway yesterday   ( bostonherald.com) divider line
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2012-06-17 09:17:36 AM  
9 votes:
Sounds like John got a bunch of free labor by calling it an environmental project.
2012-06-17 09:04:08 AM  
3 votes:

tetsoushima: Having read the article, I'm not sure I fully understand the benefit of removing pavement from a driveway.

Pavement does not allow rain to seep into the ground in small amounts and therefore enter a natural filtration process (as well as watering plants in the vicinity). Instead water flows off and collects, forcing manmade filtration and creating floods more easily.

Pavement also absorbs and radiates heat more efficiently. Enough of it and it raises the ambient temperature of an area.
2012-06-17 11:44:55 AM  
2 votes:
asphalt has a low r-value and absorbs a lot of heat energy from the sun. All of this absorbed heat creates "heat islands" around urban areas. The article doesn't mention what the man will replace the asphalt with but there are many better alternatives that are permeable and adsorb less of the sun's energy. Including grass-crete, pavers, or old fashioned concrete ribbon driveways.
2012-06-17 09:48:05 AM  
2 votes:

LargeCanine: buzzcut73: Sounds like John got a bunch of free labor by calling it an environmental project.

Huckleberry Finn nods with approval.

That would be Tom Sawyer.
Huckleberry Finn is there with the envirofools getting some extra free food.
2012-06-17 09:35:13 AM  
2 votes:
Lots of biatching on this thread. Sounds like some people got together, had a good time, and ripped up a driveway. What's your problem?

Oh yeah, the "liberal environmentalist agenda". Shut up.
2012-06-17 09:08:36 AM  
2 votes:

AngryTeacher: "A lot of times you don't get the chance to interact with your neighbors," Nutter, 40, said. "In this case, you have not just friends but your neighbors in your backyard. It's a really great idea."

What the hell? How about walking outside and saying hello to your neighbors. It's not that hard to get to know someone that lives next to you.

It is when you live behind 40 locks on a door
2012-06-17 11:43:20 AM  
1 vote:

prjindigo: basement flooding is caused by poor eaves and bad drainage around a poorly constructed basement, not by pavement.

People just can't avoid opening their mouths to spout out stupidity.

If you have regular soil, where the rain can be absorbed, then you have to have a substantial deluge before you have the problem of flooding. If you get a light rain on a concrete or asphalt surface that has a minor grading issue, and you will have a basement full of water, irrespective of the condition of the basement. Not to mention that with a paved surface 100% of it has to go down a drain of some sort, which the city has to deal with, which costs tax money to maintain.

So paved surfaces = water drainage concerns that need to be monitored and maintained constantly. Unpaved soil and plants = only occasional water drainage issues and minimal maintenance. If you don't need paved surfaces, don't put them in.

Why anyone would have a paved back yard is beyond me. Would have all the charm of a prison yard.
2012-06-17 10:40:40 AM  
1 vote:
Opened it. Saw the stupid, journalist-thinks-he's-so-cute-and-clever headline. Closed it.

Seriously, fark these journalists. Do they take classes on forcing really stupid, painful puns? Or is it something they're all born with?
2012-06-17 09:24:51 AM  
1 vote:

EvilVanMan: Mostly paved backyard? Sounds like a somewhat crappy concept to me.

I grew up with a 90%ish paved back yard. Why? Because the ass-hat behind my parent's house pulled out all the bushes on the hill - on city land - between his house and my parent's. (He was up hill.) That meant all the rain runoff simply came down the hill, through our yard, and washed all the topsoil away. After putting in a retaining wall followed by a few attempts at trying to replace the topsoil and put grass back down, with 4 sons, they realized that wasn't going to happen and ended up paving the yard.

The positive? We had an awesome basketball half court in our yard and had some great street hockey games.

I live in the city where the guy ripped up this driveway. Yards are small and sadly a lot of people think of paving them over for off street parking. One winter of parking on the street and I'd pave my yard if it meant I didn't have to deal with that.

/Don't know him
/Don't live near him
/Not ripping up my driveway
2012-06-17 09:04:06 AM  
1 vote:
It's his land. He can do whatever he wants with it, in my opinion.

And if it helps with his flooding problem, that's great too.
2012-06-17 08:56:27 AM  
1 vote:
Mostly paved backyard? Sounds like a somewhat crappy concept to me.
2012-06-17 08:55:11 AM  
1 vote:
Meanwhile, at Walmart:
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The article didn't say what he was going to replace his driveway with. If he puts down gravel, that is only slightly better than the pavement from a storm water runoff standpoint. If he leaves bare earth he's going to get erosion and sediment in his storm water runoff, which is bad. Also, where is that asphalt going, a landfill? He would probably have less of an environmental impact if he left the pavement and put in a storm water detention pond instead.
2012-06-17 08:51:17 AM  
1 vote:
Having read the article, I'm not sure I fully understand the benefit of removing pavement from a driveway.
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