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(Slate)   Luckiest journalist in the world gets paid to find the "Greatest Beer in the World". His answer? Russian River Brewing Company's Pliny the Younger   ( slate.com) divider line
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2012-05-16 09:28:36 AM  
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2012-05-16 09:30:08 AM  
well no, reasonably lucky journalist gets paid to google "beer rankings" and notices that it is based on user votes rather than expert opinions and posits that this makes beer the more democratic drink. dude's likely never had a sip of pliny the younger.
 
2012-05-16 09:31:26 AM  
Uh, that really wasn't much of a quest he went on, subby. He visited one website and saw what they had listed as number one and wrote his article about it. He didn't even have to leave his basement. It's not even actually clear that he's really tried the beer in question. Which is just as well, anyway, because while Pliny the Younger is an acceptable beer, palatable to those teeming masses who want to begin to develop their palates, truly discerning beer drinkers find it pedantic, pedestrian, a little too young and unrefined. It's a safe beer, the kind of beer you know won't assault you if you turn your back on it. But some people like that in their beers. Some people like knowing that they'll never be challenged, that they'll never step out and experience something truly spectacular because of the risk involved. I don't judge those people at all. I feel sorry for them, pity their desperate and empty lives so utterly devoid of meaning and challenge and hope and aspiration. Their vast, collective emptiness. But I don't judge them. No, I toast to them, sometimes, when I can.
 
2012-05-16 09:55:26 AM  
Yo, Gaius Plinius Caecilius Secundus, I'm really happy for you and Imma let you finish but Gaius Plinius Secundus is one of the best Roman authors and philosophers of all time.

/Wait? Is this about beer?
 
2012-05-16 10:24:25 AM  
Tried Pliny the Elder a few months ago. Really great, equal to (but not exceeding) the hype.

As a beer-snob-in-training, I refuse to criticize anyone else's tastes or opinions. Right now I'm in to brews from 3Floyds, Founders and Bells, but that's due to availability & luck as much as anything else.

We are all fortunate to live in a "Golden Age of Craft Beer." Here's hoping it never ends.
 
2012-05-16 10:28:46 AM  
so apparently boulevard did a really small run of beers aged in old templeton rye casks, but i haven't been able to track it down anywhere. help, anyone?
 
2012-05-16 10:38:57 AM  
Here we go ..
 
2012-05-16 10:40:49 AM  
But its no Moose Drool.


The Beer Wars begun, they have..
 
Bf+
2012-05-16 10:42:14 AM  
Luckiest journalist in the world gets paid to Google "beer rankings" and click on the first link.
FIFY
 
2012-05-16 10:42:31 AM  
vernonFL: [t0.gstatic.com image 259x194]

Natty? How about no. PBR biatches
 
2012-05-16 10:44:23 AM  
What God drinks:

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2012-05-16 10:44:37 AM  
Ugh, not even that great. Go drink Victory at Sea or Allagash White
 
2012-05-16 10:45:36 AM  
Yeah, well, that's not going to be available in this neck of the world, so........
 
2012-05-16 10:46:02 AM  
I prefer a good sour beer over a really hoppy one any day.

/and as luck would have it, Cascade Brewing Barrel House is less than a mile away...
 
2012-05-16 10:47:19 AM  
It doesn't mean much for "democratization of the process" if you base your rankings on a bunch of beer snobs' opinions - and when you have limited releases that require people that pay a lot of attention to when it's released, that means you're only going to get the people who really want it to be awesome so they can brag to their friends who will never get them.

There are a lot of good beers, and there are a few sh*tty ones. To say one is the best is stupid.
 
2012-05-16 10:47:31 AM  
Moronic submitter is epic moron.
 
2012-05-16 10:48:07 AM  
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2012-05-16 10:50:09 AM  
I've wanted to try Pliny the younger but they don't bottle it. If you're not in Southern Cali, you're out of luck.
 
2012-05-16 10:50:34 AM  
This has become my beer of choice recently:

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Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Ale

Hard to come by. So delicious.

/Fiancee bought me two cases of the stuff
//She's a keeper
 
2012-05-16 10:50:53 AM  
meh.. I am not a beer drinker whatsoever, never understood the obsession, if anything, it's a boring beverage, I've drank it what I didn't have other options aside the sugary stuff (pop).

But I will say that I did try to be open and see if there would have been one that would be better than others (hence, actually drinkable), and tried just about everything I could find, all with disappointed results.

The only beer that I will admit to have enjoyed, was in Germany in a pub-restaurant from a tap, which had a very nice nutty flavour to it.

I never found it to be imported, and since that was over 10 years ago, I never bothered after and can't remember the name anyways.

But when I see the obsession and drinking issues with so many, I'd rather just skip it.
 
2012-05-16 10:51:23 AM  

Pert: What God drinks:

[www.bathams.co.uk image 133x301]


Can God brew a beer strong enough to get Himself drunk?
 
2012-05-16 10:51:43 AM  
I'd still rather have a Busch Light 90% of the time.
 
2012-05-16 10:52:38 AM  

imfallen_angel: meh.. I am not a beer drinker whatsoever, never understood the obsession, if anything, it's a boring beverage, I've drank it what I didn't have other options aside the sugary stuff (pop).

But I will say that I did try to be open and see if there would have been one that would be better than others (hence, actually drinkable), and tried just about everything I could find, all with disappointed results.

The only beer that I will admit to have enjoyed, was in Germany in a pub-restaurant from a tap, which had a very nice nutty flavour to it.

I never found it to be imported, and since that was over 10 years ago, I never bothered after and can't remember the name anyways.

But when I see the obsession and drinking issues with so many, I'd rather just skip it.


Nobody gives a rat's ass what you like or dislike
 
2012-05-16 10:53:23 AM  
Pliny the Younger is good. Russian River's Consecration is the best (I love sour beers).

Notable in second place is Allagash Curieux. Every keg of it tastes slightly different (but always amazing).
 
2012-05-16 10:55:17 AM  
It is almost a true Triple IPA with triple the amount of hops as a regular I.P.A. This beer is very full-bodied with tons of hop character in the nose and throughout.

Why don't they just stuff a bottle full of hop leaves and inject a couple ounces of beer into it, cap it, then bury it in parking lot for 10 years. By then, most of the beer will have been absorbed and consumers could just concentrate on the hop leaves for that truly hoppy, hoppy, hoppy, oh so hoppy flavor a true beer snob requires.
 
2012-05-16 10:55:19 AM  
Seriously? I'm hung over and there are two beer threads today...

I need a Beer.
 
2012-05-16 10:56:24 AM  

hstein3: This has become my beer of choice recently:

[www.blogaboutbeer.com image 183x275]
Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Ale

Hard to come by. So delicious.

/Fiancee bought me two cases of the stuff
//She's a keeper


The local brewery here, ages one of their stouts in bourbon barrels, it's one of my favorites. Next batch I'm making will be my first attempt at a wit.
 
2012-05-16 10:56:31 AM  
Just bought 40 acres (no mule though), thinking of trying my hand at home brewing. If I like it I'll have the space to grow my own grains/hops.

Any of the sites selling kits have better results than the others?
 
2012-05-16 10:57:17 AM  
 
2012-05-16 10:57:48 AM  

Bladel:

We are all fortunate to live in a "Golden Age of Craft Beer." Here's hoping it never ends.


We have 8-10 new craft breweries in the Austin area in the last 2 years alone.
It's farking magnificent.
 
2012-05-16 10:59:44 AM  
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I love me some Santo.
 
2012-05-16 10:59:57 AM  

nelsonal: hstein3: This has become my beer of choice recently:

[www.blogaboutbeer.com image 183x275]
Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Ale

Hard to come by. So delicious.

/Fiancee bought me two cases of the stuff
//She's a keeper

The local brewery here, ages one of their stouts in bourbon barrels, it's one of my favorites. Next batch I'm making will be my first attempt at a wit.


Got a name for me? My friendly local liquor store here in Baltimore has two oak-aged beers that I know of, but they're ludicrously priced, something like $8 for a single 16oz. bottle.
 
2012-05-16 11:00:23 AM  

DoBeDoBeDo: Just bought 40 acres (no mule though), thinking of trying my hand at home brewing. If I like it I'll have the space to grow my own grains/hops.

Any of the sites selling kits have better results than the others?


Barley and hops require cool temps, otherwise you get powdery mildew on your hops.
It's why there is a climate-related dividing line between wine country and beer country in Europe, and somewhat in the US..
 
2012-05-16 11:00:31 AM  
I think it would be nice to be paid to investigate the elite call girls of Tokyo, Hong Kong, Seoul, and Singapore, myself.
 
2012-05-16 11:01:52 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: It is almost a true Triple IPA with triple the amount of hops as a regular I.P.A. This beer is very full-bodied with tons of hop character in the nose and throughout.

Why don't they just stuff a bottle full of hop leaves and inject a couple ounces of beer into it, cap it, then bury it in parking lot for 10 years. By then, most of the beer will have been absorbed and consumers could just concentrate on the hop leaves for that truly hoppy, hoppy, hoppy, oh so hoppy flavor a true beer snob requires.


I see someone has gone... bitter.
 
2012-05-16 11:01:57 AM  
BEER SNOB THREAD

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2012-05-16 11:02:25 AM  
The best I've ever had:

Pliny the Elder
Sam Adams Utopias
Dogfish Head 90 Min. IPA
Dogfish Head 120 Min. IPA
Rogue Brew 10,000*

/*They don't make it anymore.
//*Sniff*
 
2012-05-16 11:02:40 AM  

ComicBookGuy: I think it would be nice to be paid to investigate the elite call girls of Tokyo, Hong Kong, Seoul, and Singapore, myself.


How do you feel about penis? When discussing elite Asian call girls, this is important.
 
2012-05-16 11:03:04 AM  

Dinobot: [farm7.staticflickr.com image 500x500]

I love me some Santo.


Got to hang out with Brock Adams, the owner of St. Arnold, he's going on 18 years of making badass beer.
 
2012-05-16 11:03:57 AM  
One more for my best list:

Czech Budweiser (Sold as Czechvar here in the U.S.)

/Need to go back to the Czech Republic some day.
 
2012-05-16 11:04:01 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: It is almost a true Triple IPA with triple the amount of hops as a regular I.P.A. This beer is very full-bodied with tons of hop character in the nose and throughout.

Why don't they just stuff a bottle full of hop leaves and inject a couple ounces of beer into it, cap it, then bury it in parking lot for 10 years. By then, most of the beer will have been absorbed and consumers could just concentrate on the hop leaves for that truly hoppy, hoppy, hoppy, oh so hoppy flavor a true beer snob requires.


Probably because there is no flavor in the leaves of the hop plant. The bitterness/aroma imparted comes from the flower or cone.

Drink what you like and don't be an ass about it, even if others are.
 
2012-05-16 11:04:14 AM  

Maud Dib: Dinobot: [farm7.staticflickr.com image 500x500]

I love me some Santo.

Got to hang out with Brock Adams Wagner, the owner of St. Arnold, he's going on 18 years of making badass beer.


Fixed it fer me.
 
2012-05-16 11:05:10 AM  

imfallen_angel: meh.. I am not a beer drinker whatsoever, never understood the obsession, if anything, it's a boring beverage, I've drank it what I didn't have other options aside the sugary stuff (pop).

But I will say that I did try to be open and see if there would have been one that would be better than others (hence, actually drinkable), and tried just about everything I could find, all with disappointed results.

The only beer that I will admit to have enjoyed, was in Germany in a pub-restaurant from a tap, which had a very nice nutty flavour to it.

I never found it to be imported, and since that was over 10 years ago, I never bothered after and can't remember the name anyways.

But when I see the obsession and drinking issues with so many, I'd rather just skip it.



Now really, what was the point of all that?

I don't like football. You don't see me posting in football threads.
 
2012-05-16 11:05:18 AM  

thomps: so apparently boulevard did a really small run of beers aged in old templeton rye casks, but i haven't been able to track it down anywhere. help, anyone?


it's called rye on rye

Link

/Boulevard Beer Finder
//two minutes on google but only because I had to fight with the content filter at work and I stopped to read some of boulevards site
 
2012-05-16 11:05:20 AM  

The_Sponge: The best I've ever had:

Pliny the Elder
Sam Adams Utopias
Dogfish Head 90 Min. IPA
Dogfish Head 120 Min. IPA
Rogue Brew 10,000*

/*They don't make it anymore.
//*Sniff*


DFH released more 75 minute a month or two ago. If you haven't tried it, but like 90 and 120, I'd highly recommend it. Also Burton Baton.
 
2012-05-16 11:06:24 AM  
I've had Pliny the Elder. Good beer.

Hard to find Pliny the Younger, but I doubt that it is the best beer in the world, because it's simply one style. Sometimes you don't want hoppy, sometimes you want sweet Belgian. Sometimes you want malty. Sometimes, you just want something light and crisp on a hot day.
 
2012-05-16 11:06:42 AM  
It's okay to pick a best beer.

It's like picking a best in show after the best in breeds have been selected in a dog show. Does it mean it's really the best dog? Of course not.

It's just a matter of opinoin and taste in the end.

The people who get in to it are the ones who are making these great beers (dogs) better, promoting them, and helping to make them available to the rest of us.

For the beer enthusiasts, it's something to rally around and discuss, and if you don't care to get in to the insights of all that is beer, than that's just great, go talk about your fantasy ball team or something so much more important and worthy of your valuable time.

/has a beer enthusiast buddy who owns the highest ranking beer selection bar in Vegas

//I get to try some of the most amazing beers in the world on a regular basis
 
2012-05-16 11:07:05 AM  

WhippingBoy: imfallen_angel: meh.. I am not a beer drinker whatsoever, never understood the obsession, if anything, it's a boring beverage, I've drank it what I didn't have other options aside the sugary stuff (pop).

But I will say that I did try to be open and see if there would have been one that would be better than others (hence, actually drinkable), and tried just about everything I could find, all with disappointed results.

The only beer that I will admit to have enjoyed, was in Germany in a pub-restaurant from a tap, which had a very nice nutty flavour to it.

I never found it to be imported, and since that was over 10 years ago, I never bothered after and can't remember the name anyways.

But when I see the obsession and drinking issues with so many, I'd rather just skip it.


Now really, what was the point of all that?

I don't like football. You don't see me posting in football threads.


But you post your dislike for football in a beer thread.

This probably means I have to go find a football dislike thread to go tell everyone about my new favorite beer.
 
2012-05-16 11:07:18 AM  
My favorite is Young's Double Chocolate Stout. I usually hate chocolate beers, but this one is smoother and richer than any stout I've ever tried. Plus, just a hint of cocoa aftertaste. Very subtle. Everyone I've ever had try it became a fan...beer snobs or not.
 
2012-05-16 11:08:25 AM  
Saison Dupont

//best.beer.ever
 
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