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(Austin Statesman)   Lick... no, pump... punk... PUB. Lick laws. Public. Intosh, intop, intof... drunk laws. They're too fuc... whoops. Fum (hee hee) fuzzy. Crickets say. What? Critics. CRITICS. That's what they say   (statesman.com) divider line
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2012-03-31 8:53:23 AM  
Scaramouche! Scaramouche! Will you do the Fandango?
 
2012-03-31 8:58:50 AM  
I think the laws most places are pretty straightforward. Brown bag = ok*.
*No fighting, no harassing, no loitering and no being a nuisance while carrying said bag. Doesn't matter how bad you smell if you stay outdoors. Don't piss or puke on anything important.
 
2012-03-31 8:59:20 AM  
Amusing? Try sad. Maybe subby finds abuse of police power amusing?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-03-31 9:00:29 AM  
When police arrest someone on suspicion of public intoxication, state law dictates they must do so when they believe someone is so inebriated that they are a danger to themselves or others.

Massachusetts has a similar protective custody law, and it also means don't annoy a cop after drinking or you'll spend the night in jail.
 
2012-03-31 9:09:02 AM  
The USA has too many laws. We are going to be the next nanny state.
 
2012-03-31 9:12:39 AM  

pjbreeze: The USA has too many laws. We are going to be the next nanny state.


We already are.
 
2012-03-31 9:22:08 AM  
What's that? Pigs abuse their "discretion" to arrest people whenever and for whatever they feel like? Say it ain't so.
 
2012-03-31 9:36:19 AM  
"I was drunk in private. They threw me into public."

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2012-03-31 9:45:43 AM  

Kit Fister: pjbreeze: The USA has too many laws. We are going to be the next nanny state.

We already are.


compared to the rest of the world, we are like the grand-nanny state...
 
2012-03-31 9:47:52 AM  
I'm glad this is getting some attention on Fark. The other guy arrested, Buehler, is a West Point graduate and veteran. Bet the pigs didn't see that coming when they claimed he spat in an officer's face, thereby "justifying" his rough treatment. I wonder why the APD refuses to release the video?...
 
2012-03-31 9:57:28 AM  

Philbigtime: I'm glad this is getting some attention on Fark. The other guy arrested, Buehler, is a West Point graduate and veteran. Bet the pigs didn't see that coming when they claimed he spat in an officer's face, thereby "justifying" his rough treatment. I wonder why the APD refuses to release the video?...


Polite recording equipment is notoriously sketchy and will almost certainly malfunction under scrutiny.
 
2012-03-31 10:30:51 AM  
Public intoxication laws too intentionally fuzzy, critics say
Police officials say the law's wide leeway allows officers to have options fun in dealing with violating the rights of intoxicated people


Article assumes the legislature has the civil liberties of the people in mind when creating laws. Mens rea is intentionally omitted. Burden of proof is intentionally low. Creating a new crime, and hence new criminals, and then being tough on those criminals is a great way for a political establishment to self-perpetuate and keep all the apparatchiks gainfully employed. The "tough on crime" retrospective appeal to voters is like saying "vote for me, I increased the likelihood that you will be incarcerated." Got to stuff the courts with like-minded statists, to ensure the survival of your constitutionally adventurous criminal code and enforcement.

This country needs a massive jury nullification campaign.
 
2012-03-31 10:55:08 AM  

sporkme: Public intoxication laws too intentionally fuzzy, critics say
Police officials say the law's wide leeway allows officers to have options fun in dealing with violating the rights of intoxicated people

Article assumes the legislature has the civil liberties of the people in mind when creating laws. Mens rea is intentionally omitted. Burden of proof is intentionally low. Creating a new crime, and hence new criminals, and then being tough on those criminals is a great way for a political establishment to self-perpetuate and keep all the apparatchiks gainfully employed. The "tough on crime" retrospective appeal to voters is like saying "vote for me, I increased the likelihood that you will be incarcerated." Got to stuff the courts with like-minded statists, to ensure the survival of your constitutionally adventurous criminal code and enforcement.

This country needs a massive jury nullification campaign.


^^^
THIS

Fully Informed Jury Association (new window)

I have seen it proposed for the War on Drugs, and other things.

Time to stop blaming a tool that was abused by a bunch of hate filled racists in the south. It is perfectly legitimate to use it to overturn bad laws like this and many others.
 
2012-03-31 10:57:46 AM  

LordOfThePings: Scaramouche! Scaramouche! Will you do the Fandango?


THUNDERBOLTS AND LIGHTNING

VERY VERY FRIGHTENING
 
2012-03-31 11:23:57 AM  

kiwimoogle84: LordOfThePings: Scaramouche! Scaramouche! Will you do the Fandango?

THUNDERBOLTS AND LIGHTNING

VERY VERY FRIGHTENING



Galileo, Galileo
Galileo, Galileo
Galileo, Figaro - magnifico
(new window)
 
2012-03-31 11:24:06 AM  
They're too fuc...

So we can say fuc on Fark? Fuc me, I had no fucing idea. Hope the filter doesn't fuc this up.
 
2012-03-31 11:28:22 AM  
The arrests - especially that of Buehler, a West Point graduate and war veteran - riled civil liberties activists and made national news.

Yeah.. because West Point graduates and war veterans NEVER act like jackasses.

Slobbering drunks always present in court sober, well dressed and in complete denial of the incident. They need to videotape these idiots every time so it can be shown in court.

"And here, Your Honor, is where the defendant called me a "biatch pig", then tripped over the curb and stepped into her own pool of vomit. Let me fast forward to the point where she tried to climb the street pole and declared herself Queen of Brooklyn."
 
2012-03-31 11:39:39 AM  
That's the whole point. Be as drunk as you want, don't be a drunk asshole. I'm fine with this. Its not hard to be drunk and not cause problems. I do it every day.
 
2012-03-31 11:57:25 AM  

Philbigtime: I'm glad this is getting some attention on Fark. The other guy arrested, Buehler, is a West Point graduate and veteran. Bet the pigs didn't see that coming when they claimed he spat in an officer's face, thereby "justifying" his rough treatment. I wonder why the APD refuses to release the video?...


So you're saying that being a graduate of West Point automatically means that one is incapable of committing a criminal offense? They're taught better, and always adhere to that teaching?

I see your Buehler and raise you a Daniel Woolverton, West Point Class of 1997 (new window)
 
2012-03-31 12:15:10 PM  
Here in Austin it's fun to sit on a balcony downtown as the night winds down and watch the cops pick random people out of the parade of drunks staggering back to their cars. Sometimes people will make themselves targets for whatever reason but mostly it just looks like they grab whomever is near when the mood strikes them. Very, very rarely does anyone get let go without at least a ticket and probably about half (yes, I'm making that percentage up) get arrested for whatever reason.

Meanwhile, 40 or 50 other equally drunk people stagger right on by.

Do I have a point? It would appear not.
 
Skr
2012-03-31 12:44:35 PM  
*hiccup*
 
2012-03-31 12:48:19 PM  
Me thinks subby had a stroke.
 
2012-03-31 12:56:42 PM  
"What may occur is that an officer, trying to be helpful, will make an arrest and charge someone with public intoxication, when they should be charged with" a crime that carries harsher penalties, Acevedo said. "We should be in the business of arresting people for the appropriate charge."

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2012-03-31 1:03:28 PM  
I nominate this for headline of the year. Beautifully done, subby.

/hungover, getting a kick
 
2012-03-31 2:44:18 PM  

tomWright: sporkme: Public intoxication laws too intentionally fuzzy, critics say
Police officials say the law's wide leeway allows officers to have options fun in dealing with violating the rights of intoxicated people

Article assumes the legislature has the civil liberties of the people in mind when creating laws. Mens rea is intentionally omitted. Burden of proof is intentionally low. Creating a new crime, and hence new criminals, and then being tough on those criminals is a great way for a political establishment to self-perpetuate and keep all the apparatchiks gainfully employed. The "tough on crime" retrospective appeal to voters is like saying "vote for me, I increased the likelihood that you will be incarcerated." Got to stuff the courts with like-minded statists, to ensure the survival of your constitutionally adventurous criminal code and enforcement.

This country needs a massive jury nullification campaign.

^^^
THIS

Fully Informed Jury Association (new window)

I have seen it proposed for the War on Drugs, and other things.

Time to stop blaming a tool that was abused by a bunch of hate filled racists in the south. It is perfectly legitimate to use it to overturn bad laws like this and many others.


I've been called for Jury Duty so I'm getting a kick out of this.

/M-O-O-N that spells nullification
 
2012-03-31 2:58:33 PM  
Principal caught sayof?
 
2012-03-31 3:24:26 PM  

LordOfThePings: Scaramouche! Scaramouche! Will you do the Fandango?


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2012-03-31 5:07:54 PM  

sendbillmoney: Philbigtime: I'm glad this is getting some attention on Fark. The other guy arrested, Buehler, is a West Point graduate and veteran. Bet the pigs didn't see that coming when they claimed he spat in an officer's face, thereby "justifying" his rough treatment. I wonder why the APD refuses to release the video?...

So you're saying that being a graduate of West Point automatically means that one is incapable of committing a criminal offense? They're taught better, and always adhere to that teaching?

I see your Buehler and raise you a Daniel Woolverton, West Point Class of 1997 (new window)


No, but having seen reports of this incident since January, let me clarify a couple of things that I left out of my post:
1.Buehler totally looks like a skinny Asian hippie with long hair (not the typical military academy graduate look)
2.Buehler was not only 100% sober at the time of the incident, but stepped in to help a female that he did not know from being brutalized by the police.
3.Buehler was not the person who was pulled over, he merely witnessed it happen at a gas station
4.There are at least two seperate cell phone videos shot from across the street, both of which firmly corroborate Buehler's story.

But seeing as you're OBVIOUSLY pro-cop and anti-military, we shouldn't be too surprised at your conclusions, huh?

/yes I like painting people with a broad brush
 
2012-03-31 5:57:10 PM  
"What may occur is that an officer, trying to be helpful, will make an arrest and charge someone with public intoxication, when they should be charged with" a crime that carries harsher penalties, Acevedo said. "We should be in the business of arresting people for the appropriate charge."

Yeah farkin right, ya dick. You know if your officers made those kinds of charges routinely they'd be dismissed before they made it to court.
 
2012-03-31 6:16:52 PM  
Dunga-dooballs.
 
2012-03-31 6:22:12 PM  

Coyote Doyenne: Dunga-dooballs.


Listening to the Hodgecast right now.
 
2012-03-31 9:42:30 PM  

Philbigtime: sendbillmoney: Philbigtime: I'm glad this is getting some attention on Fark. The other guy arrested, Buehler, is a West Point graduate and veteran. Bet the pigs didn't see that coming when they claimed he spat in an officer's face, thereby "justifying" his rough treatment. I wonder why the APD refuses to release the video?...

So you're saying that being a graduate of West Point automatically means that one is incapable of committing a criminal offense? They're taught better, and always adhere to that teaching?

I see your Buehler and raise you a Daniel Woolverton, West Point Class of 1997 (new window)

No, but having seen reports of this incident since January, let me clarify a couple of things that I left out of my post:
1.Buehler totally looks like a skinny Asian hippie with long hair (not the typical military academy graduate look)
2.Buehler was not only 100% sober at the time of the incident, but stepped in to help a female that he did not know from being brutalized by the police.
3.Buehler was not the person who was pulled over, he merely witnessed it happen at a gas station
4.There are at least two seperate cell phone videos shot from across the street, both of which firmly corroborate Buehler's story.

But seeing as you're OBVIOUSLY pro-cop and anti-military, we shouldn't be too surprised at your conclusions, huh?

/yes I like painting people with a broad brush


You invoked his "West Point graduate and veteran" status as if they were germane. They're not. Military personnel are just as capable as anyone else of doing stupid shiat, otherwise the two military justice offices I supervised during my military service wouldn't have had anything to do.

SendBillMoney, MSgt, USAF (Retired)
 
2012-04-01 10:09:42 AM  

sendbillmoney: Philbigtime: sendbillmoney: Philbigtime: I'm glad this is getting some attention on Fark. The other guy arrested, Buehler, is a West Point graduate and veteran. Bet the pigs didn't see that coming when they claimed he spat in an officer's face, thereby "justifying" his rough treatment. I wonder why the APD refuses to release the video?...

So you're saying that being a graduate of West Point automatically means that one is incapable of committing a criminal offense? They're taught better, and always adhere to that teaching?

I see your Buehler and raise you a Daniel Woolverton, West Point Class of 1997 (new window)

No, but having seen reports of this incident since January, let me clarify a couple of things that I left out of my post:
1.Buehler totally looks like a skinny Asian hippie with long hair (not the typical military academy graduate look)
2.Buehler was not only 100% sober at the time of the incident, but stepped in to help a female that he did not know from being brutalized by the police.
3.Buehler was not the person who was pulled over, he merely witnessed it happen at a gas station
4.There are at least two seperate cell phone videos shot from across the street, both of which firmly corroborate Buehler's story.

But seeing as you're OBVIOUSLY pro-cop and anti-military, we shouldn't be too surprised at your conclusions, huh?

/yes I like painting people with a broad brush

You invoked his "West Point graduate and veteran" status as if they were germane. They're not. Military personnel are just as capable as anyone else of doing stupid shiat, otherwise the two military justice offices I supervised during my military service wouldn't have had anything to do.

SendBillMoney, MSgt, USAF (Retired)


Absolutely. But you know, and I know, that an individual who has graduated from one of our country's fine military academies is, in general, a person who has held themselves to much higher standards throughout their lives than the average person. A "graduate of the University of Texas" and a "graduate of Annapolis" are two very different people. Not that the Annapolis graduate is going to be a perfect human being, but they have in all likelihood undergone more rigorous and specialized education than your average person ever will. Basically, a West Point graduate is not your average hippie protester, and the cops didn't know that when they started this. In the world we live in, being West Point grad can only add to one's credibility.
 
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