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(Good.is)   Having spent millions on #Occupy hassles, NYC plans construction of giant urban campground   ( good.is) divider line
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2012-02-11 11:07:05 AM  
Are they really this stupid? Or are they just brilliant?
 
2012-02-11 11:21:17 AM  
This was in the works long before the Occupation movement.
 
2012-02-11 11:21:28 AM  
People, I remember back when NYC Camp was this village.

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2012-02-11 11:22:36 AM  
This would make more sense in Detroit or Vegas where there are large swaths of abandoned property. How are you going to make a campground worthwhile in a place with property values as ridiculous as NYC?
 
2012-02-11 11:22:40 AM  
Oh goody.

A Hooverville.
 
2012-02-11 11:28:08 AM  

odinsposse: This would make more sense in Detroit or Vegas where there are large swaths of abandoned property. How are you going to make a campground worthwhile in a place with property values as ridiculous as NYC?


The campgrounds probably won't be in Manhattan. There's plenty of areas in Brooklyn that would work. The entire eastern half of Brooklyn going into Long Island is surprisingly suburban. There are lots of grassy, quiet places in Queens and the Bronx, too.
 
2012-02-11 11:31:13 AM  
giant urban campground

Don't they already have that? Called the Bronx?
 
2012-02-11 11:33:02 AM  
I use to camp out in Mink Hollow when Rundgren was recording "The Hermit Of Mink Hollow".

/ i even saw a mink there
 
2012-02-11 11:38:10 AM  
urban campground

I approve this use of the ironic tag.
 
2012-02-11 11:39:25 AM  

Bloody William: odinsposse: This would make more sense in Detroit or Vegas where there are large swaths of abandoned property. How are you going to make a campground worthwhile in a place with property values as ridiculous as NYC?

The campgrounds probably won't be in Manhattan. There's plenty of areas in Brooklyn that would work. The entire eastern half of Brooklyn going into Long Island is surprisingly suburban. There are lots of grassy, quiet places in Queens and the Bronx, too.


It is (or would be) in Brooklyn. Floyd Bennett Field (where they're taking about doing it) is an old, abandoned airstrip roughly halfway between Coney Island and JFK.
 
2012-02-11 11:51:18 AM  
How safe would it be to camp in the city?
 
2012-02-11 11:59:45 AM  

tacojohn: How safe would it be to camp in the city?


safe if your worried about running across a bear. unsafe if you are worried about urban lumberjack hipsters
 
2012-02-11 12:07:52 PM  
I have a sneaking suspicion this is all a big plot to gather New York's homeless population in one area so they can nuke it from orbit.

Well, not that far, but none of this is going to go toward helping people who really need it. It's like showing that video of the girl lip-synching Britney Spears in the shower while dumping food on her head to a bunch of starving kids. You're just being a jackass at that point.
 
2012-02-11 12:36:53 PM  
Typical New Yorker reaction from the author.....

But how will NY'ers use it? Why is it important to us?

Its there so that people like me....assuming I wanted to go someplace where I would be surrounded by elitist jerks who think that they run the planet with their urban style....can bring a camper and my family and spend a weekend visiting new york from the comfort of a quiet campsite.

of course if I wanted to go to a campground in the middle of a city I would go here:

Link (new window)

Because it is much more pleasant than smelling new yorkers.
 
2012-02-11 12:36:56 PM  
Ive been thining that if there is another huge occupy period, the hipster camps could make for great budget travel opportunities. A hotel in nyc is going to set you back 300 bucks easy. Might be worth putting up with some hipster nonsense. 8
 
2012-02-11 12:59:18 PM  

archichris: Typical New Yorker reaction from the author.....

But how will NY'ers use it? Why is it important to us?

Its there so that people like me....assuming I wanted to go someplace where I would be surrounded by elitist jerks who think that they run the planet with their urban style....can bring a camper and my family and spend a weekend visiting new york from the comfort of a quiet campsite.


Except that you couldn't. Stupid insults by you aside, you could visit the campground, and there's a decent nature walk nearby, and if you were really a trouper you could hike seven miles to Coney Island, but that's about it. There's no buses. No trains. No cabs. You'd have to be clinically insane to drive the camper to any of the attractions in New York. And as a campground, it'll be OKish for campers I suppose but terrible for tent campers. It's right by JFK, there's no tree cover to speak of, they're not even going to tear up the old runways. There's seriously no constituency for this thing, they just settled on campground because no one could agree on anything else.
 
2012-02-11 01:27:42 PM  

MBooda: giant urban campground

Don't they already have that? Called the Bronx?


Nah, we've already been told we must leave the Bronx.
 
2012-02-11 01:49:20 PM  
So it would be like camping except without actually being able to get away from it all, no natural beauty or wildlife and with the chance of getting stabbed by a crackhead?

Sweet!

/take all the worst parts of camping and combine it with the worst parts of living in a city and BAM you have a brilliant idea.
//NY state has plenty of wilderness within a few hours drive, so . . .
 
2012-02-11 02:23:59 PM  
Well no, it's not that bad either. It's over a mile away from the nearest people, and that neighborhood doesn't have crackheads. It's a solid middle-class neighborhood of cops, well-unionized tradespeople, Wall Street operations types, etc. It's not dangerous or anything, it's just not enticing to most people and in particular not to people who want to visit a large city.

There is a nature area that appeals to hard-core birders, so it's got that going for it, which is nice. And if they let the RC aviators keep doing their thing, people could travel in for that -- I'll admit that would be pretty cool.
 
2012-02-11 02:50:31 PM  
Blog is from last summer. This is old news -- Floyd Bennett Field has been a NPS campground for months. And people have camped there long before; it was pretty much a no-man's-land last time I saw it. Sounds like all they've done is put in some portapotties and started charging $20 a night.

As far as being "urban", it ain't. It's right on Jamaica Bay, almost all the way to the ocean. There's nothing out there but wildlife sanctuaries and the Rockaways.
 
2012-02-11 04:15:34 PM  
archichris: But how will NY'ers use it? Why is it important to us?

Its there so that people like me....assuming I wanted to go someplace where I would be surrounded by elitist jerks who think that they run the planet with their urban style....can bring a camper and my family and spend a weekend visiting new york from the comfort of a quiet campsite.


So we should, instead, ask "how would a guy who doesn't plan to come here use it?"

Who's elitist?
 
2012-02-11 04:38:45 PM  
New York is a green starved city? They have a lot of farking parks for that. Plus all that stuff over by Co-op city and the zoo and blah blah. Oh by green they mean recycling and shiat, how the fark would a campground fix that in any way? I feel stupider after reading this.
 
2012-02-11 04:55:32 PM  

archichris: Typical New Yorker reaction from the author.....

But how will NY'ers use it? Why is it important to us?

Its there so that people like me....assuming I wanted to go someplace where I would be surrounded by elitist jerks who think that they run the planet with their urban style....can bring a camper and my family and spend a weekend visiting new york from the comfort of a quiet campsite.

of course if I wanted to go to a campground in the middle of a city I would go here:

Link (new window)

Because it is much more pleasant than smelling new yorkers.


Listen, I'm not trying to be a dick here, but what is with your hostility to NYC? Were you personally insulted by some city dwelling executive? I'm pretty amazed that people can offhandedly dismiss 8 million people as bad smelling elitists. I've actually never been to a city that is friendlier; the residents of NYC are from all over our country and the world; we are poor, rich, and everything between; we come from all walks of life, faith, creeds, and cultures. The city has its flaws, but being unwelcoming isn't one of them.

Come to the city and walk around, if you get lost then ask someone for directions- you'll get them, and possibly from multiple persons. Go to a bar and talk to the people there; I bet you make a friend.
 
2012-02-11 05:43:13 PM  
Seems to me this is gonna be the same concept as the "Designated Free Speech Area" under the on-ramp at the RNC.
"Here, occupy this area far out of the way."

I wonder when occupiers will learn that blah-blah won't work and sabotage gets results.
 
2012-02-11 07:08:23 PM  

Civil Discourse: I've actually never been to a city that is friendlier


I love New York, and compared to Philly, it is way nicer, but lots of people up there are rude as hell and judgmental as fark. It's definitely not the friendliest city I've ever been in by far.
 
2012-02-11 07:21:16 PM  
Floyd Bennett Field in Brooklyn, once the city's first municipal airport but now virtually unused, is set to become the country's largest urban campground. ... I am all for creating more green space in a somewhat green-starved city, but my question is: Who is the campground for? I can see hipsters digging on the idea of city camping, but this field is nowhere near hipster Brooklyn-or any public transport.

WTF? Cognitive dissonance much?
 
2012-02-11 07:44:27 PM  
What? Central Park wasn't good enough for them?

/Occupy my pants
 
2012-02-11 07:58:01 PM  

Braindeath: Civil Discourse: I've actually never been to a city that is friendlier

I love New York, and compared to Philly, it is way nicer, but lots of people up there are rude as hell and judgmental as fark. It's definitely not the friendliest city I've ever been in by far.


Fair, but I think you get judgmental and rude people everywhere. I've never really had a problem; I found the social scene to be very welcoming.
 
2012-02-11 08:06:43 PM  

Macular Degenerate: Floyd Bennett Field in Brooklyn, once the city's first municipal airport but now virtually unused, is set to become the country's largest urban campground. ... I am all for creating more green space in a somewhat green-starved city, but my question is: Who is the campground for? I can see hipsters digging on the idea of city camping, but this field is nowhere near hipster Brooklyn-or any public transport.

WTF? Cognitive dissonance much?


Brooklyn is gigantic. There is the Hipster part of Brooklyn, namely Williamsburg, and there is everywhere else. Floyd Bennet field has got to be at least 10 miles from Williamsburg. Brooklyn has a tremendous variety of neighborhoods- the overwhelming majority have no hipster population. It's not cognitive dissonance, its breaking up a huge population center into smaller segments.
 
2012-02-11 08:23:53 PM  
It's not cognitive dissonance, its breaking up a huge population center into smaller segments.

In fairness, it's a little weird. Most places don't consider 10 miles (which is about right, btw) to be very far. That includes most other large cities like LA or Chicago or even Seoul or Shanghai. New Uo
 
2012-02-11 08:25:45 PM  
Sorry. New York is on a short list of cities like Tokyo where 10 miles is a big deal. Most places, people will travel that far to save a nickel on gas.
 
2012-02-11 09:07:43 PM  

Manfred J. Hattan: archichris: Typical New Yorker reaction from the author.....

But how will NY'ers use it? Why is it important to us?

Its there so that people like me....assuming I wanted to go someplace where I would be surrounded by elitist jerks who think that they run the planet with their urban style....can bring a camper and my family and spend a weekend visiting new york from the comfort of a quiet campsite.

Except that you couldn't. Stupid insults by you aside, you could visit the campground, and there's a decent nature walk nearby, and if you were really a trouper you could hike seven miles to Coney Island, but that's about it. There's no buses. No trains. No cabs. You'd have to be clinically insane to drive the camper to any of the attractions in New York. And as a campground, it'll be OKish for campers I suppose but terrible for tent campers. It's right by JFK, there's no tree cover to speak of, they're not even going to tear up the old runways. There's seriously no constituency for this thing, they just settled on campground because no one could agree on anything else.


Not exactly true, the Q35 bus goes right by and you can change for either the 2 or 3 train, I forget which.

It's still a long way out.

I'm pretty sure local boy and girl scouts camp there now.

You can go out there and drive around on the abandoned runways, smoke a cigar by the water and see some buildings in ruins.

Also Patsy Grimaldi, formerly of Grimaldi's Pizza has (or at least did last year) a pizza place in the food court at the athletic center at Floyd Bennett.
 
2012-02-12 01:03:07 AM  
It is almost as if the folks around here picture all of new york as time square.
 
2012-02-12 01:33:32 PM  
It's going to be the new "Free Speech Zone" in NYC... No more Occupy Wall Street protests. Get out of Wall Street with your damn signs and your tents, go protest in an outer borough where we can ignore you and not have to worry about your cause. There's your farkin' campsite already, you hippies. Go there.
 
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