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2012-01-28 12:01:53 AM  
Indian-givers
 
2012-01-28 01:20:20 AM  
They won't think it's such a good idea when their football team goes aground on the reef

/arrrrrr
 
2012-01-28 01:45:19 AM  
I like lighthouses. In fact, my 2012 calendar has a picture of a different lighthouse for each month. I could easily cheer for a lighthouse.
 
2012-01-28 01:52:49 AM  
I'm a Wichita High School North Redskin class of 1982 graduate.

"Redskin" seems pretty damned racist. I keep waiting for them to change the nickname but they haven't in 30 years. Not that it really matters on way or the other...

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2012-01-28 02:09:33 AM  
Lighthouses....I mean what would their slogan be? The solidly built lighthouses.......The Blinking Lighthouses.........The Mournful Horn Lighthouses?

I just wouldn't be intimidated knowing I was about to play the lighthouses.
 
2012-01-28 02:12:49 AM  

ksdanj: I'm a Wichita High School North Redskin class of 1982 graduate.

"Redskin" seems pretty damned racist. I keep waiting for them to change the nickname but they haven't in 30 years. Not that it really matters on way or the other...

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I graduated a Tecumseh Savage. I once went to the grocery store wearing a Savages hoody and a Cleveland Indians hat, honestly not giving any thought to either. My cashier was a Alaska native and commented on them both. He wasn't at all rude or hostile, just pointed it out. I felt like a complete douche and haven't worn either since.
 
2012-01-28 02:19:17 AM  

Karmacidal: ksdanj: I'm a Wichita High School North Redskin class of 1982 graduate.

"Redskin" seems pretty damned racist. I keep waiting for them to change the nickname but they haven't in 30 years. Not that it really matters on way or the other...

[product.images.prosportsmemorabilia.com image 514x600]

I graduated a Tecumseh Savage. I once went to the grocery store wearing a Savages hoody and a Cleveland Indians hat, honestly not giving any thought to either. My cashier was a Alaska native and commented on them both. He wasn't at all rude or hostile, just pointed it out. I felt like a complete douche and haven't worn either since.


Yeah....I wouldn't sweat it. If he's a Native Alaskan he gets that oil dividend every year. So he's got that going for him.
 
2012-01-28 03:16:33 AM  
It sucks they got sioux'd.
 
2012-01-28 04:47:04 AM  
Casino Indian or Slurpee Indian?
 
2012-01-28 04:49:04 AM  

Red Shirt Blues: Yeah....I wouldn't sweat it. If he's a Native Alaskan he gets that oil dividend every year. So he's got that going for him.


I'm sure cash helps him forget that he's now only a caricature, still mocked by those that drove his people to near-extinction.
 
2012-01-28 04:49:26 AM  
Now they can start scalping tickets to the big games again.
 
2012-01-28 04:51:02 AM  

The Southern Dandy: Casino Indian or Slurpee Indian?


Dot or How?
 
2012-01-28 04:54:44 AM  
What about a GRAVY BOAT LIGHTHOUSE?

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2012-01-28 04:59:44 AM  

Red Shirt Blues: Lighthouses....I mean what would their slogan be? The solidly built lighthouses.......The Blinking Lighthouses.........The Mournful Horn Lighthouses?


Light 'em up.
 
2012-01-28 05:04:26 AM  

The Southern Dandy: Casino Indian or Slurpee Indian?


I should not have laughed, laughed as loud, or laughed as hard as I did at that.
 
2012-01-28 05:07:50 AM  

UltimaCS: Red Shirt Blues: Yeah....I wouldn't sweat it. If he's a Native Alaskan he gets that oil dividend every year. So he's got that going for him.

I'm sure cash helps him forget that he's now only a caricature, still mocked by those that drove his people to near-extinction.


No we didn't drive them to near extinction...the native Alaskans who don't like being lumped in with the Native Americans. Don't confuse the two. My sister who lives in Nome is married to a Native Alaskan and had 5 kids. I've been doing their taxes for 30 years.......the dividends added up.
 
2012-01-28 05:14:45 AM  
"It's hard to cheer for a lighthouse," said board member Mary Gail Stanaland..."

Text me an "A"
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Text me a "N"
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2012-01-28 05:23:15 AM  
Eh, in our district the Spartans, Patriots, and Indians all battle it out every year.

We're equal opportunity racists, so it's all good.

Funny thing was, the local Indian tribe around here was actually quite supportive of the high school, but a bunch of PC folks had the hight school change it to Eagles or something. But the other two were left as is.

Go figure.

/native
//not bothered by sports team mascots
///more important things in life (like the push for unregulated mining in Northern Wisconsin, whee!)
 
2012-01-28 05:31:19 AM  
We were the Oredockers... as in, a person who works on a dock, that ships ore... or something...

Our mascot was some sort of roadrunner, though sometimes there was a wolf.

I... really don't know...
 
2012-01-28 05:35:21 AM  
At night a ship captian sees a light ahead. Tell that vessel we have right of way and move out of our way. The crewman does what he is told and informs the captain the other vessels says No, you move away. The captain gets upset and orders, "tell that guy we are US Navy, move over so we can pass". The reply comes back "No sir, you move". The captain explodes "Tell that sob to move or get run over by a US Navy battleship". The reply comes back, "I am a lighthouse, your choice".

Lighthouses: proving they are badder than any sea vessel for generations
 
2012-01-28 05:55:32 AM  
Meh, call me when the "Chinks" come back.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pekin,_Illinois#High_school
 
2012-01-28 05:56:37 AM  
Cheering for this light house:
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Halfway through the renovating and refurbishing the funding ran out.

needs to be relit by June 2nd. I'm taking the family on vacation in Nags Head.

GO BRAVE LIGHTHOUSES!
 
2012-01-28 06:01:56 AM  
Some of you seem a little sensitive. Do you really think all these teams would have Indian-related names if they weren't seen as worthy adversaries?
 
2012-01-28 06:39:43 AM  

Karmacidal: ksdanj: I'm a Wichita High School North Redskin class of 1982 graduate.

"Redskin" seems pretty damned racist. I keep waiting for them to change the nickname but they haven't in 30 years. Not that it really matters on way or the other...

[product.images.prosportsmemorabilia.com image 514x600]

I graduated a Tecumseh Savage. I once went to the grocery store wearing a Savages hoody and a Cleveland Indians hat, honestly not giving any thought to either. My cashier was a Alaska native and commented on them both. He wasn't at all rude or hostile, just pointed it out. I felt like a complete douche and haven't worn either since.


If you stopped wearing them because somebody might be offended, then you are a complete douche. Anybody who's offended by anything just needs to grow up.

/Off to see a HS football game. GO, FIGHTING HOOK-NOSED MONEY LENDERS!!!!!
 
2012-01-28 06:46:15 AM  
Couldn't they more easily cheer for a lighthouse if it was some form of well-designed high-tech project, like, for instance, if they added a geodesic dome with solar pannels on one side, maybe, and another geodesic dome with an ecological greenhouse for instance on the other side? Not too high domes, so as not to impair the lighthouse's working, maybe 1/4th or 1/5th of the height, to keep a safety margin? Like, ecological? green (new N very SFW window)?
 
2012-01-28 07:26:58 AM  
Unless the teams are making fun of the native american tribes, it's not racist.

As it stands, teams use native american motifs out of pride and the sense that those guys were really badass.

People should stop using that word so damn much. It has started to lose it's original meaning.

Also, what's wrong with redskins? it's not as if we don't already use color names to refer to whites and blacks. And sometimes even brown. But reds is wrong?

ProTip: Saying they're redskins is NOT racist. Racism would be discriminating them for being redskins. That's what most people don't get about what racism entails. It's not acknowledging we're different but judging someone on something as trivial as skin color.
 
2012-01-28 07:41:29 AM  
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Obligatory.
 
2012-01-28 07:44:33 AM  
Remember when Ted Turner and Jane Fonda were doing the "tomahawk chop" at Braves games, then people started whining about it, so dumbass Jane modified it so her palm was down, and it looked like she was repeatedly saluting Hitler?

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That was awesome.
 
2012-01-28 07:48:19 AM  

oh_please: Remember when Ted Turner and Jane Fonda were doing the "tomahawk chop" at Braves games, then people started whining about it, so dumbass Jane modified it so her palm was down, and it looked like she was repeatedly saluting Hitler?

[thumbnails.hulu.com image 512x288]

That was awesome.


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Jane Fonda's always come up with the best ideas.
 
2012-01-28 07:52:10 AM  
*Looks at map*
Meh, south of mason dixon, makes sense.
"Students desperately want" eh?
Strange how one act can help perpetuate two misconceptions.
 
2012-01-28 07:52:28 AM  

robohobo: oh_please: Remember when Ted Turner and Jane Fonda were doing the "tomahawk chop" at Braves games, then people started whining about it, so dumbass Jane modified it so her palm was down, and it looked like she was repeatedly saluting Hitler?

[thumbnails.hulu.com image 512x288]

That was awesome.

[latimesblogs.latimes.com image 250x325] Jane Fonda's always come up with the best ideas.


Also that awful Three Mile Island movie...

With the years i've come to realize that whatever Jane Fonda is for, must be an idiotic cause.

/except for Barbarella.
 
2012-01-28 07:55:07 AM  
Brilliant!
 
2012-01-28 08:04:43 AM  

UltimaCS: Red Shirt Blues: Yeah....I wouldn't sweat it. If he's a Native Alaskan he gets that oil dividend every year. So he's got that going for him.

I'm sure cash helps him forget that he's now only a caricature, still mocked by those that drove his people to near-extinction.


That would make perfect sense. Unfortunately, most Americans don't consider that to be the case. Sports teams are not named after native peoples in an effort to mock them. The names are meant as to inspire courage and toughness for the home team. There are several schools in my home state that are predominantly Native American and use mascots such as "Chiefs", "Warriors" and "Indians". The mascots of the schools are certainly not crude caricatures, they are noble depictions of a romantized race. Then you run into situations like Florida St where the mascot is wholey endorsed by the Native American tribe. This issue is not black and white, you actually have to put some thought into this one. Pointing and screaming racism does not really help in this situation.
 
2012-01-28 08:21:15 AM  
They could have changed their name to this:
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2012-01-28 08:34:50 AM  
If the indians had gotten the gatling gun first, we'd have team names like the Atlanta Rednecks, New York Jews, Detroit Coons, et al. I see no problem here.

:-)
 
2012-01-28 08:45:30 AM  
My High School had one of the most terrifying names ever......

We were the Senators
 
2012-01-28 08:58:02 AM  
Graduated as a Warrior in 1984 and as we say, Once a Warrior, Always a Warrior.

And damned proud of it.

As a descendant of the Cherokee Indians, it does not bother me one bit. I'm proud of my American Indian heritage.

All this "political correctness" that has gone about erasing anything to do with American Indians is just rapidly deleting the culture from the American landscape altogether. And it's sad.

100 years from now, there will be nothing left but a few casinos dotting the landscape that are in name only of a few of the last tribes.

So much for the melding of cultures. It wipes them out.
 
2012-01-28 09:05:57 AM  

Madaynun: My High School had one of the most terrifying names ever......

We were the Senators


Oh yeah? One of our county schools is the Sparkman Senators. My school was the Tigers. The Gurley Tigers. lol. School was Madison County HS, but it was located in the tiny town of Gurley, AL. Seen a lot of signs with the Girly Tigers on it. Is that sexist?
 
2012-01-28 09:17:18 AM  
lol everyone in North Myrtle Beach are from New York or New Jersey
 
2012-01-28 09:21:07 AM  
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2012-01-28 09:22:12 AM  

Point02GPA: The Southern Dandy: Casino Indian or Slurpee Indian?

Dot or How?


Domestic or imported?
 
db2
2012-01-28 09:33:07 AM  
Don't look at me, I voted for the turd sandwich.
 
2012-01-28 09:34:56 AM  
NeoCortex42

The Southern Dandy: Casino Indian or Slurpee Indian?

Dot or How?

Domestic or imported?


I always heard "feather or dot"

Likes Casino or Slurpee
 
2012-01-28 09:38:08 AM  
You guys aint got nuthin on my high school...

The Estherville Lincoln Central Mighty Midgets.
ELC Schools (pops)
 
2012-01-28 09:42:48 AM  
chuggernaught
2012-01-28 08:04:43 AM
UltimaCS: Red Shirt Blues: Yeah....I wouldn't sweat it. If he's a Native Alaskan he gets that oil dividend every year. So he's got that going for him.

I'm sure cash helps him forget that he's now only a caricature, still mocked by those that drove his people to near-extinction.

That would make perfect sense. Unfortunately, most Americans don't consider that to be the case. Sports teams are not named after native peoples in an effort to mock them. The names are meant as to inspire courage and toughness for the home team. There are several schools in my home state that are predominantly Native American and use mascots such as "Chiefs", "Warriors" and "Indians". The mascots of the schools are certainly not crude caricatures, they are noble depictions of a romantized race. Then you run into situations like Florida St where the mascot is wholey endorsed by the Native American tribe. This issue is not black and white, you actually have to put some thought into this one. Pointing and screaming racism does not really help in this situation.


Wrong. They are stereotype depictions based on white folks idiotic ideas of the "noble savage". There is nothing respectful in reducing human beings, particularly people of color, into a mascot for a sports team.
 
2012-01-28 09:52:40 AM  

Hermione_Granger: Wrong. They are stereotype depictions based on white folks idiotic ideas of the "noble savage". There is nothing respectful in reducing human beings, particularly people of color, into a mascot for a sports team.


Browning, Montana is home of the Blackfeet nation and nearly 100% native. It is also probably the worst place on earth, but that's not the point.

Browning High School is the Indians, with a ridiculous caricature mascot. If they don't care, I don't care.
 
2012-01-28 09:59:33 AM  

Hermione_Granger: chuggernaught
2012-01-28 08:04:43 AM
UltimaCS: Red Shirt Blues: Yeah....I wouldn't sweat it. If he's a Native Alaskan he gets that oil dividend every year. So he's got that going for him.

I'm sure cash helps him forget that he's now only a caricature, still mocked by those that drove his people to near-extinction.

That would make perfect sense. Unfortunately, most Americans don't consider that to be the case. Sports teams are not named after native peoples in an effort to mock them. The names are meant as to inspire courage and toughness for the home team. There are several schools in my home state that are predominantly Native American and use mascots such as "Chiefs", "Warriors" and "Indians". The mascots of the schools are certainly not crude caricatures, they are noble depictions of a romantized race. Then you run into situations like Florida St where the mascot is wholey endorsed by the Native American tribe. This issue is not black and white, you actually have to put some thought into this one. Pointing and screaming racism does not really help in this situation.

Wrong. They are stereotype depictions based on white folks idiotic ideas of the "noble savage". There is nothing respectful in reducing human beings, particularly people of color, into a mascot for a sports team.


Yet Chief Wahoo still exists. I really can't understand the double-standard between high-school/college sports and pro teams. My university had to remove a pair of feathers from its logo simply because they were a reference to Indians, and somehow a caricature that's on par with Al Jolson in blackface gets a pass for a professional team.
 
2012-01-28 10:02:00 AM  
the football team I was on in highschool was the "Lanterns", and then changed to the "Ships".

/yup
//really.
 
2012-01-28 10:06:54 AM  
I don't think they tried; it's easy to cheer for lighthouses. If you think about it, they're just huge lamps and people love lamps.
 
2012-01-28 10:07:47 AM  
North Myrtle Beach

How about "Klansman" for a mascot?
 
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