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2012-01-20 04:35:13 PM  
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2012-01-20 04:35:37 PM  
Wonder how much this announcement has to do with Paula Deen coming out about her Type 2 diabeetus?
 
2012-01-20 04:39:40 PM  
My theory is that Americans are on a flight from reality. Faced with painful facts-including the precarious state of the economy, the gathering storm represented by militant Muslims, in general, and Iran, in particular, the crumbling state of marriage in this country, the fact that our borders are being overrun, and the fact that our health care insurance system is in shambles (to name just a smattering of the troubles we desperately need to address)-we as a nation are eating, drinking, drugging, gambling, smoking, Facebooking, YouTubing, Marijuaning, Kardashianing, Adderalling, Bono-ing (as in thinking of Chaz's sad flight from reality as good), Prozacking, Twittering, and Sexting ourselves into oblivion.
 
2012-01-20 04:39:46 PM  
I will sadly admit I am one of these people.
 
2012-01-20 04:39:49 PM  

Anastacya: Wonder how much this announcement has to do with Paula Deen coming out about her Type 2 diabeetus?


The irony, it is delicious, especially deep fried, smothered in chocolate

//I know, I sound fat, but I'm down to 195 after being at 215 this summer.
 
2012-01-20 04:42:09 PM  
Love the photo.

/I get it! 1 in 3!
 
2012-01-20 04:42:33 PM  
I always liked the fat people in those motorized carts buying frozen pizzas, chips, oreos & other items that you know would help keep them loving those motorized carts. I'm fine with the fatties though, zombies will easily catch them first and spend so much time on them that I can get away.
 
2012-01-20 04:42:50 PM  
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NOTHING
It's what's for dinner.

 
2012-01-20 04:42:55 PM  
is this the thread where i complain that, since it's a statistical measure of population and probability, the BMI is horribly inaccurate in *my* specific case?
 
2012-01-20 04:43:41 PM  
/17.5
//no longer "medically underweight"
///yay?
 
2012-01-20 04:43:58 PM  
I'd be happy if 1 in 3 had COMMON sense

/it ain't that common
 
2012-01-20 04:45:17 PM  
shiat, DNRTFA, lol. Correction, I'm not obese, but I do lack eating sense. Oops.
 
2012-01-20 04:46:28 PM  
My wife and I lost a crapload of weight last year on some new fad diet called the "Stop Shoving So Much Crap Food In Your Gob And Go Outside Once In A While You Fat Sack Of Crap" diet. It wasn't that hard either. We just stopped eating fast/junk food so much, stayed in and cooked and made sure we walked the dogs every day. I'm down 35 and leveled off, she's down 70 and still going.

\having a calorie counting app like sparkpeople also helped out a ton.
 
2012-01-20 04:47:41 PM  

skyotter: is this the thread where i complain that, since it's a statistical measure of population and probability, the BMI is horribly inaccurate in *my* specific case?


Only if you're a hot chick with pics in profile.
 
2012-01-20 04:53:01 PM  

skyotter: is this the thread where i complain that, since it's a statistical measure of population and probability, the BMI is horribly inaccurate in *my* specific case?


Depends.

I know I'm close at the borderline of overweight/healthy weight but still have too much body fat %.

I am not a cross country runner or body builder, and have yet to ever hear one of those complain about BMI (I have a few in my family, and an aunt that was a body builder and now runs her own fitness studio, but I digress).

It's always the pudgy ones using it as a crutch and excuse to continue unhealthy habits and make themselves feel better.
 
2012-01-20 04:55:23 PM  
"These statistics, based on data from the 2009-2010 National Health and Nutrition Examination, show little change compared to 12 years ago."

Ah. The average BMI is 28.7, which is alarming, but the national average BMI was 26 back in 1960. That's right, most Americans were into the doctor gives you the evil-eye range over 50 years ago. A protein kick very much like Atkins swept the nation during the panic over the obesity crisis in the newspapers of the 1920s.

Yes, we were skinnier more than 80 years ago. When famine stalked the land and most people had physical labor jobs. But, we tend to rose-tint the past. And the people who get to the 350+ pound range (and they've always existed) used to die off pretty quickly around 45-50. Now, they take blood pressure pills and insulin and live into their 60s, which does bump up their prevalence numbers without them being that much more common (by year cohort).
 
2012-01-20 04:58:59 PM  
They ate the mirror and the scale?

No wonder omeprazole is so popular.
 
2012-01-20 05:00:19 PM  

Lawnchair: Now, they take blood pressure pills and insulin and live into their 60s, which does bump up their prevalence numbers without them being that much more common (by year cohort).



Yes, but those fatties cost us money!
 
2012-01-20 05:00:28 PM  
Oh yeah CDC. Well at least I don't have a fuel air bomb in my basement set to explode when my back up generator runs out of diesel.

/Who's the fail tag now ?
//Buncha dummies
 
2012-01-20 05:00:48 PM  

skyotter: is this the thread where i complain that, since it's a statistical measure of population and probability, the BMI is horribly inaccurate in *my* specific case?


The BMI says I'm overweight which is clearly BS. I just have too much muscle. What? No, I don't really exercise.
 
2012-01-20 05:02:08 PM  
We need to find a way to turn fat people into fuel. Then, based on the amount of obese people in America, we can safely power the nation for at least a century.
 
2012-01-20 05:08:01 PM  
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If it turns clear, that's your window to success.
 
2012-01-20 05:09:38 PM  
I have a bathroom scale, it just yells when I step on it.
 
2012-01-20 05:11:08 PM  
The food culture of this country really set the mindset for how Americans eat. 90% of the food in the grocery store besides the fresh produce and meat are processed and contain massive amounts of corn products, salt, sugar, etc. They taste great, but don't fill you up, therefore you keep eating. Not only that, because of massive serving sizes in restaurants, our stomachs are used to having an over abundance of food in our stomach. Properly sized meals would not fill up the average American. The restaurants that do offer proper serving sizes cost over 50 dollars a plate. This is the culture of the U.S., and if things don't change, we'll just see this problem continue. I'm not saying this is the purpose of the government to do, but the businesses that have a social responsibility to citizens, and the citizens to take control of their lives. Just because it's profitable to do, does not make it right.

/fatty
//20 pounds lost so far, lots to go
/// slashies
 
2012-01-20 05:14:50 PM  

xalres: My wife and I lost a crapload of weight last year on some new fad diet called the "Stop Shoving So Much Crap Food In Your Gob And Go Outside Once In A While You Fat Sack Of Crap" diet. It wasn't that hard either. We just stopped eating fast/junk food so much, stayed in and cooked and made sure we walked the dogs every day. I'm down 35 and leveled off, she's down 70 and still going.

\having a calorie counting app like sparkpeople also helped out a ton.


I successfully reduced my weight by more than twenty pounds, avoiding impending obesity and altering my Body Mass Index ranking from "overweight" to "normal", with the "stop eating so goddamned much and get some goddamned exercise or you are going to become one of the same farking fatasses to whom you direct unending snark" diet method. I recommend this method to others.
 
2012-01-20 05:18:00 PM  

skyotter: is this the thread where i complain that, since it's a statistical measure of population and probability, the BMI is horribly inaccurate in *my* specific case?


My mother, who is not overweight, has actually suggested that the Body Mass Index is not a valid indicator for me, due to my desire to maintain an index rating of 22. I have speculated that her perception of what may constitute a "healthy" body shape may be skewed due to residing in the state of Kentucky, with further skewing resulting from her being a native of the city of Lexington.

I, however, have insisted that I must lose TWENTY MORE POUNDS. OR I'LL NEVER BE PRETTY!
 
2012-01-20 05:34:01 PM  

skyotter: /17.5
//no longer "medically underweight"
///yay?


Wooot! Congrats.
15.9 here. Any tips?

/yes, besides 'eat more'
 
2012-01-20 05:34:48 PM  

Lawnchair: "These statistics, based on data from the 2009-2010 National Health and Nutrition Examination, show little change compared to 12 years ago."

Ah. The average BMI is 28.7, which is alarming, but the national average BMI was 26 back in 1960. That's right, most Americans were into the doctor gives you the evil-eye range over 50 years ago. A protein kick very much like Atkins swept the nation during the panic over the obesity crisis in the newspapers of the 1920s.

Yes, we were skinnier more than 80 years ago. When famine stalked the land and most people had physical labor jobs. But, we tend to rose-tint the past. And the people who get to the 350+ pound range (and they've always existed) used to die off pretty quickly around 45-50. Now, they take blood pressure pills and insulin and live into their 60s, which does bump up their prevalence numbers without them being that much more common (by year cohort).


"From 1960 to 2002, the average BMI of adult males rose from 25.1 to 27.8"
And the most recent data I can find puts men at 28.46 today.

http://chartsbin.com/view/577

That's a difference 3.38. If the average man is 5'9" - that would mean going from 170 pounds to 193 pounds. That's pretty significant increase.
 
2012-01-20 05:42:40 PM  

skyotter: is this the thread where i complain that, since it's a statistical measure of population and probability, the BMI is horribly inaccurate in *my* specific case?


Sure I'll bite.

My older brother is 6'1" and weighs about 240 pounds.

This puts him in the obese bracket (BMI of 31ish).

What does this huge fatty look like? How does he look in the mirror?

You tell me, here he is taking a break during a rugby tournament.

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2012-01-20 05:43:55 PM  

miss diminutive: skyotter: /17.5
//no longer "medically underweight"
///yay?

Wooot! Congrats.
15.9 here. Any tips?

/yes, besides 'eat more'


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give this a try
 
2012-01-20 05:44:26 PM  
15 down, 65 to go.
 
2012-01-20 05:46:02 PM  

Mighty Taternuts: skyotter: is this the thread where i complain that, since it's a statistical measure of population and probability, the BMI is horribly inaccurate in *my* specific case?

Sure I'll bite.

My older brother is 6'1" and weighs about 240 pounds.

This puts him in the obese bracket (BMI of 31ish).

What does this huge fatty look like? How does he look in the mirror?

You tell me, here he is taking a break during a rugby tournament.

[i44.tinypic.com image 335x346]


I don't think you know how BMI works...
 
2012-01-20 05:50:43 PM  

ManateeGag: I have a bathroom scale, it just yells when I step on it.



Mine says, "Ouch."
 
2012-01-20 05:53:35 PM  

Eshman: I don't think you know how BMI works...


It is a method for describing body fat created in the 1800s for use in statistics. It isn't meant for use as individuals but that doesn't stop people from trying to apply it to themselves and others.

ThatsTheJoke.jpg
 
2012-01-20 05:54:37 PM  
I thought the CDC deals with, you know... actual diseases.
 
2012-01-20 05:55:21 PM  

Mighty Taternuts: skyotter: is this the thread where i complain that, since it's a statistical measure of population and probability, the BMI is horribly inaccurate in *my* specific case?

Sure I'll bite.

My older brother is 6'1" and weighs about 240 pounds.

This puts him in the obese bracket (BMI of 31ish).

What does this huge fatty look like? How does he look in the mirror?

You tell me, here he is taking a break during a rugby tournament.

[i44.tinypic.com image 335x346]


WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO HIS FACE?!?!?!
 
2012-01-20 05:55:49 PM  

cabbyman: WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO HIS FACE?!?!?!


Rugby is a tough sport.
 
2012-01-20 06:01:03 PM  

miss diminutive: 15.9 here. Any tips?

/yes, besides 'eat more'


Markedly underresearched. People researching obesity tried to make a bunch of skinny prisoners in Vermont fat in an experiment in the 1970s (not something that any research board would approve today). Some gained as expected. Some were literally force-feeding themselves 10,000 calories a day and couldn't gain more than 10% of their starting weight.
 
2012-01-20 06:01:40 PM  

miss diminutive: skyotter: /17.5
//no longer "medically underweight"
///yay?

Wooot! Congrats.
15.9 here. Any tips?

/yes, besides 'eat more'


Denser calorie sources? Beer? Accept you are a skinny, short woman( I'm guessing)?

My wife teeters on medically underweight/normal weight. She freaked out a nurse once because her body fat % was 7 while she was nursing. That's a little low for any woman let alone a nursing one.

Not to go TMI, but she was also on a progesterone only BC pill at the time when she dipped to 104lb. No matter what she ate, she kept losing weight. Once she stopped that, she stabilized a bit, and put some weight back on, even while nursing. She's 5'7" btw.

She also eats all the time. Breakfast, mid morning snack, lunch, mid afternoon snack, dinner, bed time snack. She also needs red meat, or she starts to lose weight again.

//Yeah, I realize that advice equals "eat more"
 
2012-01-20 06:04:43 PM  
What's really unattractive is a belly sticking out past the chest (male & female). Pretty common thing to see even in teenagers nowadays.
 
2012-01-20 06:35:31 PM  

thirdful: I always liked the fat people in those motorized carts buying frozen pizzas, chips, oreos & other items that you know would help keep them loving those motorized carts. I'm fine with the fatties though, zombies will easily catch them first and spend so much time on them that I can get away.


I try not to judge them when I first see them but damn, if they don't always have crap in the cart.
 
2012-01-20 06:36:15 PM  

Mighty Taternuts: skyotter: is this the thread where i complain that, since it's a statistical measure of population and probability, the BMI is horribly inaccurate in *my* specific case?

Sure I'll bite.

My older brother is 6'1" and weighs about 240 pounds.

This puts him in the obese bracket (BMI of 31ish).

What does this huge fatty look like? How does he look in the mirror?

You tell me, here he is taking a break during a rugby tournament.

[i44.tinypic.com image 335x346]


The difference between your brother, along with most athletes and/or people who strength train, is that about half of his weight is in his legs. That guy's hamstrings probably weigh 40 pounds each.

But since most people who weigh 240 AREN'T rugby players and don't strength train, and since BMI is designed for populations, not individuals, pointing out the exceptions to the rule is rather pointless.
 
2012-01-20 06:39:05 PM  

Lawnchair: "These statistics, based on data from the 2009-2010 National Health and Nutrition Examination, show little change compared to 12 years ago."

Ah. The average BMI is 28.7, which is alarming, but the national average BMI was 26 back in 1960. That's right, most Americans were into the doctor gives you the evil-eye range over 50 years ago. A protein kick very much like Atkins swept the nation during the panic over the obesity crisis in the newspapers of the 1920s.

Yes, we were skinnier more than 80 years ago. When famine stalked the land and most people had physical labor jobs. But, we tend to rose-tint the past. And the people who get to the 350+ pound range (and they've always existed) used to die off pretty quickly around 45-50. Now, they take blood pressure pills and insulin and live into their 60s, which does bump up their prevalence numbers without them being that much more common (by year cohort).


I love those guys. Beginning of the fall of the Empire.
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2012-01-20 06:43:27 PM  

meat0918: miss diminutive: skyotter: /17.5
//no longer "medically underweight"
///yay?

Wooot! Congrats.
15.9 here. Any tips?

/yes, besides 'eat more'

Denser calorie sources? Beer? Accept you are a skinny, short woman( I'm guessing)?

My wife teeters on medically underweight/normal weight. She freaked out a nurse once because her body fat % was 7 while she was nursing. That's a little low for any woman let alone a nursing one.

Not to go TMI, but she was also on a progesterone only BC pill at the time when she dipped to 104lb. No matter what she ate, she kept losing weight. Once she stopped that, she stabilized a bit, and put some weight back on, even while nursing. She's 5'7" btw.

She also eats all the time. Breakfast, mid morning snack, lunch, mid afternoon snack, dinner, bed time snack. She also needs red meat, or she starts to lose weight again.

//Yeah, I realize that advice equals "eat more"


Yeah, I'm short and skinny. I've been that way all my life. Depending on what doctor I see they either shrug and say it's just genetics (I come from a long line of short skinny people) or they tell me I'm unhealthy and need to gain weight asap.

I tried using Boost meal replacement shakes between meals, but they didn't really work. (plus they're expensive - and most taste awful)
 
2012-01-20 06:44:25 PM  
I dont own a scale. The wife would always find the cheapest one available and then complain that it didnt work. I bought the stupid wii fit thing so now I have to turn on my tv to see how fat my ass is. It does keep track of how fat my ass was, though, so it's a pretty good deal.
 
2012-01-20 06:47:34 PM  

skyotter: is this the thread where i complain that, since it's a statistical measure of population and probability, the BMI is horribly inaccurate in *my* specific case?


Could be. I lost almost 60 pounds last year and am currently sporting 32" jeans for the first time since high school. BMI tables say I'm 26.9 - just into the 'overweight' category. However the body fat dunk tank test has me at below average for male body fat in my age group and quite comfortably in the 'fit' range.

Anyway... how did I lose all that weight? Bad news is that it was diet and exercise. Which is kind of hard. What I discovered as a 40 something and having failed several times before is that about 90% of diet and exercise is diet. It's virtually impossible to exercise off a large amount of weight without substantially altering your diet.
 
2012-01-20 06:52:21 PM  

Lawnchair: Markedly underresearched. People researching obesity tried to make a bunch of skinny prisoners in Vermont fat in an experiment in the 1970s (not something that any research board would approve today). Some gained as expected. Some were literally force-feeding themselves 10,000 calories a day and couldn't gain more than 10% of their starting weight.


I'd be interested in more of this research...

I've been up to about 50lbs overweight, but still nowhere near motorized-shopping-cart fat. At a certain point, I max out and I shiat a lot. I can eat whatever I want, and I'm not going above that mark - at least, not for long. It'll come out one way or another. So, I'm curious what happened to the 10,000 calorie/day skinny people. Did they crap it all out? Did they turn into super energetic chihuahuas? It's gotta go somewhere.
 
2012-01-20 06:53:09 PM  

miss diminutive: Yeah, I'm short and skinny. I've been that way all my life. Depending on what doctor I see they either shrug and say it's just genetics (I come from a long line of short skinny people) or they tell me I'm unhealthy and need to gain weight asap.

I tried using Boost meal replacement shakes between meals, but they didn't really work. (plus they're expensive - and most taste awful)


My wife is the same way. She even tried weight gainer shakes only to see nothing happen.

She was on a 5,000 calorie per day diet when she ran cross country just to maintain a weight. Nothing wrong with her metabolism, no underlying disease they can pinpoint. She's just got good genes.

She's just said screw it, enjoys eating what she wants and staying skinny, and says fark the rest of the judgmental assholes if they have a problem with her weight.
 
2012-01-20 06:56:16 PM  

miss diminutive: meat0918: miss diminutive: skyotter: /17.5
//no longer "medically underweight"
///yay?

Wooot! Congrats.
15.9 here. Any tips?

/yes, besides 'eat more'

Denser calorie sources? Beer? Accept you are a skinny, short woman( I'm guessing)?

My wife teeters on medically underweight/normal weight. She freaked out a nurse once because her body fat % was 7 while she was nursing. That's a little low for any woman let alone a nursing one.

Not to go TMI, but she was also on a progesterone only BC pill at the time when she dipped to 104lb. No matter what she ate, she kept losing weight. Once she stopped that, she stabilized a bit, and put some weight back on, even while nursing. She's 5'7" btw.

She also eats all the time. Breakfast, mid morning snack, lunch, mid afternoon snack, dinner, bed time snack. She also needs red meat, or she starts to lose weight again.

//Yeah, I realize that advice equals "eat more"

Yeah, I'm short and skinny. I've been that way all my life. Depending on what doctor I see they either shrug and say it's just genetics (I come from a long line of short skinny people) or they tell me I'm unhealthy and need to gain weight asap.

I tried using Boost meal replacement shakes between meals, but they didn't really work. (plus they're expensive - and most taste awful)


This might be fun for you to watch.
 
2012-01-20 07:06:38 PM  

jonny_q: Lawnchair: Markedly underresearched. People researching obesity tried to make a bunch of skinny prisoners in Vermont fat in an experiment in the 1970s (not something that any research board would approve today). Some gained as expected. Some were literally force-feeding themselves 10,000 calories a day and couldn't gain more than 10% of their starting weight.

I'd be interested in more of this research...

I've been up to about 50lbs overweight, but still nowhere near motorized-shopping-cart fat. At a certain point, I max out and I shiat a lot. I can eat whatever I want, and I'm not going above that mark - at least, not for long. It'll come out one way or another. So, I'm curious what happened to the 10,000 calorie/day skinny people. Did they crap it all out? Did they turn into super energetic chihuahuas? It's gotta go somewhere.


They were the thinkers?

/Never have, ever, been close to fat. I just don't get it.
 
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