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skullkrusher
2011-06-25 2:05:33 AM  

victrin: I am almost in tears. For the first time in my life, I feel like an equal citizen. Thank you New York. Thank you governor Cuomo. Thank you everyone who has fought for my civil rights and human dignity. I finally feel like an equal member of this country. From today forward, being a young gay man in New York need not be what defines me as a person; I am free to define myself.


congrats and enjoy, V. Just don't get married. That shiat's for suckers ;)
 
Philbb
2011-06-25 2:06:06 AM  

WhyteRaven74: CurlyGirly: Why do people in homosexual relationships call each other partners instead of boyfriend or girlfriend? Is it a privacy thing or fear of being stereotyped/ridiculed,

I know some who use boyfriend or girlfriend instead of partner, it's mainly a matter of preference is all.


My wife and I have been married for three years, but we have been together for almost twenty. We're straight. We've always used wife/husband, partner, significant other, etc... as interchangeable.

Some of our gay friends seemed to be more comfortable with a term like "partner". But I always thought that was because of the reactions they often received from others when using wife/husband.

The main reason I'm posting here is to join in with the celebration. As a straight man, who has been involved with equal rights issues -off and on- for over thirty years, I think this is great news. Not just for gays, but for all Americans.
 
fn129
2011-06-25 2:06:24 AM  

slayer199: Antimatter: Actually, marriage has a lot to do with state functions: power of attorney, spousal privilege, inheritance, taxation, child care, etc.

The question is more likely, why is religion involved?

That's what I was getting at in a way. Marriage is traditionally a religious concept, all "marriages" in terms of legality should be civil unions (legally binding). Other than legal reasons, there is no reason for the government to block consenting adult couples (hetero or homosexual) from marrying. Religion should not factor into the legality at all...at least in a free society.

I'm all for removing religion from the entire matter by doing away with the legality of marriage and calling them all civil unions. Either way, gays should have as much right to be legally joined as straight couples.


That is pretty much the way it is in Illinois for us gays. In IL (and NJ), civil unions are exactly like marriage... even heteros can get civil unioned. It really is just a word game here. Gay marriages from other jurisdictions have recognition here too.

I think that any religions marriage should not hold any legal standing. Conversely, a church should have the right to "marry" who ever they want to.
 
BolloxReader [OhFark]
2011-06-25 2:07:38 AM  

paj: This (R) guy on CNN said there weren't enough exemptions for "small-corporate religious objections." How exactly can a corporation be religious?


My guess is that he is talking about refusing to hire married gays as a religious matter. In states like Indiana, you can fire anyone without cause. However, you get penalized for it when the former employee files for unemployment. There are also a lot of small companies around here that will not hire someone who is obviously non-Christian, which they can do so long as they don't cite it as a reason. Others aggressively promote themselves as Christian in their marketing to make it uncomfortable for undesirables to do business with them.

As far as I can see, he is asking for religious difference to be a declared a lawful reason for discrimination in either hiring or custom.
 
Elminst
2011-06-25 2:07:49 AM  

Kumana Wanalaia: jekostas: Has New York been consumed in a fiery apocalypse yet?

No?

Alright then.

I live a stone's throw from Albany and I can verify that no, the sky is not raining fire nor has the ground opened up to pour out demons.


I live IN Albany, and the only rocking here is my 70's funk Pandora station.

/checks out the windows....
//nope, no fire falling on the capital building.
 
mjg
2011-06-25 2:10:21 AM  

victrin: I am almost in tears. For the first time in my life, I feel like an equal citizen. Thank you New York. Thank you governor Cuomo. Thank you everyone who has fought for my civil rights and human dignity. I finally feel like an equal member of this country. From today forward, being a young gay man in New York need not be what defines me as a person; I am free to define myself.


Good on ya victrin!

Now, let's party like it's 2011! It's gonna be a pretty great Pride Weekend for all - gay and straight.
 
skullkrusher
2011-06-25 2:12:16 AM  

fn129: I think that any religions marriage should not hold any legal standing.


on their own they don't. You still have to go to town hall and get a marriage license. It's just that the officiant is given the power to sign it. It's a convenience thing rather than having to get your marriage license signed by a judge if you choose to have a religious ceremony.
 
Xzavier
2011-06-25 2:13:02 AM  
I'll just leave this right here..
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(of course with the addition of NY now)

/FTA - Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont and the District of Columbia allow same-sex marriage, and Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois and New Jersey approved civil unions
//You get the point
 
envirovore [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2011-06-25 2:14:18 AM  

Elminst: Kumana Wanalaia: jekostas: Has New York been consumed in a fiery apocalypse yet?

No?

Alright then.

I live a stone's throw from Albany and I can verify that no, the sky is not raining fire nor has the ground opened up to pour out demons.

I live IN Albany, and the only rocking here is my 70's funk Pandora station.

/checks out the windows....
//nope, no fire falling on the capital building.


Still no signs of fire and brimstone from the sky here in Utica either.
/we don't need a vengeful sky dwelling dude to help us burn to the ground here anyway
 
fn129
2011-06-25 2:23:06 AM  

bobbette: Well, frankly, I hope every Senator who voted for this depravity goes home, eats a good meal, gets a good night's sleep, and then wakes up with a debilitating stroke that makes the rest of their lives a long, miserable, unending hell. That's exactly what these pieces of human garbage deserve.


How very Christian™ of Mr. Freeper.
 
WhyteRaven74
2011-06-25 2:26:35 AM  
Dimensio: I am curious: do you suffer physical discomfort as a direct result of your mental incompetence?

Considering he doesn't even know what the story of Sodom and Gemmorah is actually about? Probably not. Probably figures everyone feels the same.
 
Johnny Bananapeel [OhFark]
2011-06-25 2:27:06 AM  
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Error403
2011-06-25 2:28:04 AM  
Hell yeah! I'm goin', that's all there is to it. Then I'm gonna marry a piano. I love's me some frackin' piano.
 
Theory Of Null
2011-06-25 2:33:17 AM  
Congrats.

This is the way you get things done. You just need to vote, lobby or run in your local elections. Voting for one person means jack shiat in the big scheme of things.
 
sillydragon
2011-06-25 2:35:06 AM  

Farker T: m2313: studebaker hoch: We know how well that went for the cops last time.

/Seriously, come get some. A lot of us missed the party first time around and would love to help throw the next one.


Remember guys, always Bash Back.


The positive changes we're seeing were not the fruit of violence.


Those look more like violent fruits...

/Good job, NY. :)
//Now if we can just get the country to join in.
///Looking forward to marrying my partner someday...
 
AcneVulgaris
2011-06-25 2:40:31 AM  

Error403: Hell yeah! I'm goin', that's all there is to it. Then I'm gonna marry a piano. I love's me some frackin' piano.


It's all fun and games till you get your pubes tangled up in the wires.
 
Lochsteppe
2011-06-25 2:42:22 AM  
Congrats New York!

/Seems like the thing to say
 
eddiesocket
2011-06-25 2:43:08 AM  

jvl: I had really hoped California would go first, but a win is a win!

I just hope the Judicial branch can stay the fark out of it long enough for most states to win.


The judicial branch is the only hope most states have. The South would just now be legalizing mixed race marriages if SCOTUS hadn't forced them to decades ago.
 
skink
2011-06-25 2:43:51 AM  

victrin: I am almost in tears. For the first time in my life, I feel like an equal citizen. Thank you New York. Thank you governor Cuomo. Thank you everyone who has fought for my civil rights and human dignity. I finally feel like an equal member of this country. From today forward, being a young gay man in New York need not be what defines me as a person; I am free to define myself.


I am so happy for you, victrin! Your post put a lump in my throat.
 
pgh9fan
2011-06-25 2:44:23 AM  

Uncle Pim: Finally, after 13 years, I can marry my partner.


Congratulations when you do. I hope someday that gay partners will be able to marry in my home state, PA. My former next-door-neighbors were a gay couple. One passed from stomach cancer. It was heartbreaking to see what his partner went through. I know that if I had cancer my wife would be able to do anything she needed. He had to worry and grieve and had the extra bullshiat of not being legally allowed to do squat.
 
IronOcelot
2011-06-25 2:46:03 AM  
I have a brother who can now marry his partner of twelve years legally.

Words cannot convey how happy I am about this.


/So very awesome.
//My father in law swore... I mean SWORE... that this would not happen. I can't wait to hear his rant about the "Queerin' up of 'Murica!"
 
Reverend Monkeypants
2011-06-25 2:49:12 AM  
I call for a Fark Party in New Paltz



Let me know when that happens, I'll get Mayor Jason West to come.
 
rynthetyn
2011-06-25 2:51:56 AM  
Congrats to New Yorkers, and here's hoping that my state sees the light some time in the near future.
 
skink
2011-06-25 2:53:28 AM  
The question was asked upthread, "What do all the activists do now?"

In addition to the gay marriage issue, many of us, gay AND straight, continue to work to reduce/remove the stigma of just BEING gay. My work is with batterers intervention, parenting classes for parents in trouble, and healthy relationships classes. One of the biggest hurdles we face, with men and BOYS, is that if they stand up for a woman, or a girl or a weaker boy who is being abused or harassed, they get calledfags and homos by the abuser and their peers...So they don't speak up.

Until the stigma of homosexuality is gone, men and boys will continue to use that language to marginalize anyone who has compassion for, or tries to defend a girl. They will be considered 'less than manly' by the dominant peer culture, and ostracized. This is a problem only men can change...One need only to read the Freep thread to see how deeply ingrained this language and peer culture is.

/Straight
//But we are ALL gay New Yorkers, today
 
Freakman
2011-06-25 2:54:53 AM  
God dammit, New York. Fark you for making me say positive things about New York.

/Welcome to the 21st Century
 
skink
2011-06-25 2:54:59 AM  

pgh9fan: Congratulations when you do. I hope someday that gay partners will be able to marry in my home state, PA. My former next-door-neighbors were a gay couple. One passed from stomach cancer. It was heartbreaking to see what his partner went through. I know that if I had cancer my wife would be able to do anything she needed. He had to worry and grieve and had the extra bullshiat of not being legally allowed to do squat.


Having watched a local doctor die, and his partner fight the family AND the laws of this state, I totally understand what you mean. It is the most anguishing aspect of this fight, to me.
 
truthseeker2083
2011-06-25 2:58:28 AM  

tony41454: This needs to be said here:

For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.
Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.
For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice, they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them. (Romans 1:21-32)


Oh noes!!1! Words from desert goat fukrs! Whatever will we do?! I've seen the light! The love my partner and I have for each other must not be real! There goes 5 years! Thank you for showing us all the light!!111!!!..... oh wait, get bent!
 
eddiesocket
2011-06-25 2:59:45 AM  

fn129: slayer199: Antimatter: Actually, marriage has a lot to do with state functions: power of attorney, spousal privilege, inheritance, taxation, child care, etc.

The question is more likely, why is religion involved?

That's what I was getting at in a way. Marriage is traditionally a religious concept, all "marriages" in terms of legality should be civil unions (legally binding). Other than legal reasons, there is no reason for the government to block consenting adult couples (hetero or homosexual) from marrying. Religion should not factor into the legality at all...at least in a free society.

I'm all for removing religion from the entire matter by doing away with the legality of marriage and calling them all civil unions. Either way, gays should have as much right to be legally joined as straight couples.

That is pretty much the way it is in Illinois for us gays. In IL (and NJ), civil unions are exactly like marriage... even heteros can get civil unioned. It really is just a word game here. Gay marriages from other jurisdictions have recognition here too.

I think that any religions marriage should not hold any legal standing. Conversely, a church should have the right to "marry" who ever they want to.


When DOMA is ruled unconstitutional, "civil unions" will count for very little. IL is new, but there are several differences between NJ marriages and civil unions, legally. I can't remember all the facts now, but civil unions are decidedly second class, and not just in name.
 
Brainsick
2011-06-25 3:04:00 AM  

truthseeker2083: tony41454: This needs to be said here:

For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.
Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.
For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice, they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them. (Romans 1:21-32)
Oh noes!!1! Words from desert goat fukrs! Whatever will we do?! I've seen the light! The love my partner and I have for each other must not be real! There goes 5 years! Thank you for showing us all the light!!111!!!..... oh wait, get bent!



@Tony

Teacher, which is the most important commandment in the law of Moses?Jesus replied, "'You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. A second is equally important: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' The entire law and all the demands of the prophets are based on these two commandments." (Matthew 22:36-40)


/did I just blow your mind or what?
 
boobsrgood
2011-06-25 3:18:12 AM  

jekostas: Has New York been consumed in a fiery apocalypse yet?

No?

Alright then.


You can bet your arse that somewhere in Virginia, that option is being discussed this evening.

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Only a matter of time now....
 
GWSuperfan
2011-06-25 3:18:14 AM  

eddiesocket: When DOMA is ruled unconstitutional, "civil unions" will count for very little. IL is new, but there are several differences between NJ marriages and civil unions, legally. I can't remember all the facts now, but civil unions are decidedly second class, and not just in name.


"'Separate but equal' is inherently unequal."
 
zeio
2011-06-25 3:28:22 AM  

m2313: studebaker hoch: We know how well that went for the cops last time.

/Seriously, come get some. A lot of us missed the party first time around and would love to help throw the next one.

Remember guys, always Bash Back.


You got the picture wrong. You can always bash back with STDs, like Hepatitis and HIV. Bug chasing rats are so noble, yes, and this will make the mental disorder reach farther and wider.
 
twidgetfitch
2011-06-25 3:38:14 AM  
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Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf
2011-06-25 3:40:02 AM  
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Bear151556
2011-06-25 3:44:56 AM  
To the Gay folks who are celebrating tonite congrats!

To the R politicians who crossed the line to vote yes on giving people their rights god on you!

To the christains and other morons who think this is a bad thing, remember at one point in history you all were considered to be second class citizens and criminals at one point in history as well so shut the Fark up and let people live their lives the way they want, instead of trying to mold us all in your image.

/yes, I know it is supposed to be spelled christian , chr-stain just fits better in my opinion.
 
pablodolanez
2011-06-25 3:50:18 AM  
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Dimensio
2011-06-25 3:50:21 AM  

zeio: m2313: studebaker hoch: We know how well that went for the cops last time.

/Seriously, come get some. A lot of us missed the party first time around and would love to help throw the next one.

Remember guys, always Bash Back.

You got the picture wrong. You can always bash back with STDs, like Hepatitis and HIV. Bug chasing rats are so noble, yes, and this will make the mental disorder reach farther and wider.


I am curious: have you any rational commentary to offer?
 
jennies1897
2011-06-25 3:57:58 AM  

boobsrgood: jekostas: Has New York been consumed in a fiery apocalypse yet?

No?

Alright then.

You can bet your arse that somewhere in Virginia, that option is being discussed this evening.

Only a matter of time now....


I won't lie, I LOL'd. Loud.

/can attest NYS has not yet been consumed by hellfire. Unfortunately, I'm in Albany.
 
slackist
2011-06-25 3:59:52 AM  
I am conflicted.

I don't know if I am happier for the gays who can now be married (congrats!) or happier to see the pure butthurt flowing like a tsunami of santorum from all the homophobe bigots gnashing their teeth.
 
TheAntiElite
2011-06-25 4:05:57 AM  

Mrtraveler01: shower_in_my_socks: TheManofPA: before this vote, the senate had to approve sweet corn as the state vegetable.


So it was a win-win. Gays are happy. Sweet corn farmers are happy. Everybody gets laid.

Approves:


GENTLEMEN.

BEHOLD!

*beep, beep, beep*

CORN!

/and now you have to scrub your brain
//IT'S NOT DIFFERENT AT ALL, IS IT STEVE?
 
T-Servo
2011-06-25 4:09:01 AM  
Good.
 
jennies1897
2011-06-25 4:15:31 AM  

TheAntiElite: Mrtraveler01: shower_in_my_socks: TheManofPA: before this vote, the senate had to approve sweet corn as the state vegetable.




I WANTED ONION!1!1!!!1eleventy!
 
mjg
2011-06-25 4:16:11 AM  

slackist: I am conflicted.

I don't know if I am happier for the gays who can now be married (congrats!) or happier to see the pure butthurt flowing like a tsunami of santorum from all the homophobe bigots gnashing their teeth.


I'd consider it in terms of politics. The republicans that voted for the bill know they might take it on the chin during the next election, cuz they a) voted for what is right; b) knew they were moving out of 'the job' after this election cycle; c) both. I choose c). These guys will find jobs, no doubt.

I'm happy to see this bill was elected democratically through the legislature. I worry about (here in NY) those republicans who voted against the bill - creating a war-chest for future elections. Interesting to see the run-up to the federal election. As always, 'moral issues' will be intimately connected to issues (economy; education; war, et.al) yet again.

That being said I'm very happy to see this bill passed into law!
 
runaway06
2011-06-25 4:28:46 AM  
Good for them.I wonder how long it will be until gay marriage passes in Florida? Ive got my money on within the next millennium
 
runaway06
2011-06-25 4:29:25 AM  

styckx: And the worst headline gets lit..


I thought it was fabulous
 
rynthetyn
2011-06-25 4:39:28 AM  

runaway06: Good for them.I wonder how long it will be until gay marriage passes in Florida? Ive got my money on within the next millennium


Considering that Florida has a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, it'll happen when this current batch of old people die off and the younger generations are in the majority.

Though, I think that before the old people die off, we're probably going to get a Supreme Court decision legalizing gay marriage nationwide.
 
lohphat
2011-06-25 4:56:26 AM  
Since when does a legislature vote to grant liberty? I thought in the USA we were free by default.

Somewhere liberty was denied, this must be a form of repeal of the prohibition.
 
Spuddy345
2011-06-25 4:58:03 AM  

victrin: I am almost in tears. For the first time in my life, I feel like an equal citizen. Thank you New York. Thank you governor Cuomo. Thank you everyone who has fought for my civil rights and human dignity. I finally feel like an equal member of this country. From today forward, being a young gay man in New York need not be what defines me as a person; I am free to define myself.


Well good for you! And I look forward to seeing your wedding pics on here someday, right?

/British gay guy.
//Good for you NY
///Slashies
 
daveUSMC
2011-06-25 5:02:54 AM  
All rugby balls are now footballs. Even if they aren't really footballs by years of accepted and established ball definition.

Balls.

Why can't we just call it Butt Buddies?
 
Rikyfree
2011-06-25 5:23:54 AM  
Good deal. Next up for NY is the legalization of sweet lady Mary Jane. It will help the uptight a-holes sooth the butthurt.
 
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