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2011-04-26 04:44:10 PM  
Yeah, maybe if they re-edit it to include Theda Bara's tits, and finally give us that threesome where Clara Bow and Mary Pickford discover Marion Davies' rosebud.
 
2011-04-26 04:47:38 PM  
Is Fatty Arbuckle in it?
 
2011-04-26 04:47:55 PM  
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Meh
 
2011-04-26 04:49:18 PM  

oldebayer: Is Fatty Arbuckle in it?


No, but he is signed up for the sequel, "Atlas Rapes You With A Coke Bottle".
 
2011-04-26 04:54:20 PM  
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Is Chaplin doing an impersonation (new window) of the Author?
 
2011-04-26 05:10:03 PM  
Movies made out of trashy novels from cult leaders generally don't do well. Just look at Battlefield Earth.
 
2011-04-26 05:10:37 PM  
More like Audience Shrugged.
 
2011-04-26 05:25:33 PM  
Atlas Mugged. Sorry, no little 'rich vacuum' for you.
 
2011-04-26 05:27:22 PM  
A lousy movie that flopped at the box office is continuing to hemorrhage money? Color me shocked.
 
2011-04-26 05:30:15 PM  
I saw it last week. I actually liked it. Anyone else see it?
 
2011-04-26 05:30:16 PM  
A novel about steel and railroad barons-cum-underdogs didn't have the ring of reality to it? Color me shocked.

/You could put what Ayn Rand understood about business in a thimble.
//But it was still triple her talents as a screenwriter.
 
2011-04-26 05:31:47 PM  
I was surprised I hadn't seen this (new window) or a similar article on Fark. It's pretty hysterical in retrospect.
 
2011-04-26 05:33:51 PM  

TheHighlandHowler: I saw it last week. I actually liked it. Anyone else see it?


Yeah I saw it. I thought it was decent too. They did a pretty good job adapting it to current times.
 
2011-04-26 05:34:10 PM  
I love it how the 'baggers who are proselytizing this apparently horrible film like to make excuses for why it isn't doing well. None of the excuses include that the movie sucks.

Having read Ayn Rand, including Atlas Shrugged, I can assure these 'baggers that their praise of this sub-mediocrity falls in the realm of cognitive dissonance.
Which is kind of fun to observe, because Ayn Rand's life, beliefs and actions are a case study in cognitive dissonance.
 
2011-04-26 05:35:30 PM  
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

/obligatory
 
2011-04-26 05:39:51 PM  
So has Armond White weighed in with a positive review yet?
 
2011-04-26 05:40:04 PM  

Tenorman's Tears: There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

/obligatory


Brilliant. What's the source of that quote (if it is a quote)?
 
2011-04-26 05:40:32 PM  

Tenorman's Tears: There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

/obligatory


And painfully true.
 
2011-04-26 05:41:26 PM  
The audience for this movie in 14 seconds Completely safe for work
Link (new window)
 
2011-04-26 05:43:08 PM  
Thus the free market has determined that Ayn Rand's ideas have no worth.
 
2011-04-26 05:44:02 PM  

TheHighlandHowler: I saw it last week. I actually liked it. Anyone else see it?


I enjoyed the book.
 
2011-04-26 05:56:08 PM  
So how bad is it? Guilty pleasure or what has been seen can not be unseen?
 
2011-04-26 05:58:41 PM  

Tenorman's Tears: There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

/obligatory


Three actually; Starship Troopers/Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Very different views of Libertarianism.
 
2011-04-26 06:00:12 PM  
But but but, if you look at the per screen gross, for all counties west of the Mississippi, south of the Mason-Dixon line, whose names include the letters 'h', 'c', 'm' and/or 't', and with a total population less than 50,000, it's like the highest grossing film of all TIME! Suck on that, libs.
 
2011-04-26 06:00:47 PM  

2wolves: Tenorman's Tears: There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

/obligatory

Three actually; Starship Troopers/Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Very different views of Libertarianism.


Heinlin makes Rand look like Socrates.
 
2011-04-26 06:02:03 PM  

Freschel: So how bad is it? Guilty pleasure or what has been seen can not be unseen?


Fast and the Furious is a guilty pleasure. This movie sounds like pure dogshiat aimed at motivating the political base of mouth-breathers and cave-dwellers.
 
2011-04-26 06:05:16 PM  

Freschel: So how bad is it? Guilty pleasure or what has been seen can not be unseen?


You decide.

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2011-04-26 06:05:50 PM  

Sasquatchuan: Tenorman's Tears: There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

/obligatory

Brilliant. What's the source of that quote (if it is a quote)?


sorry,
This quote is from John Rogers.
It was a random post on his blog, "Kung Fu Monkey", on March 19, 2009.
credit where credit is very much due
brilliant, indeed
 
Ant
2011-04-26 06:06:52 PM  

Sasquatchuan: Tenorman's Tears: There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

/obligatory

Brilliant. What's the source of that quote (if it is a quote)?


http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2009/03/ephemera-2009-7.html (new window)
 
2011-04-26 06:09:04 PM  
I *wanted* to see it, but it was limited release and the nearest showing was a two hour trip. ONE WAY two hour trip. so that wasn't in the cards.

so I'm guessing i'll wait for someone to put it on bittorrent.
 
Ant
2011-04-26 06:10:49 PM  

Weaver95: so I'm guessing i'll wait for someone to put it on bittorrent.


Looter!
 
2011-04-26 06:11:14 PM  

gshepnyc: 2wolves: Tenorman's Tears: There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

/obligatory

Three actually; Starship Troopers/Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Very different views of Libertarianism.

Heinlin makes Rand look like Socrates.


Are you referring to Robert A. Heinlein? Mr. Heinlein proposed a number of different political solutions, some reasonable some extreme. Did you read about his views on theocracy?
 
2011-04-26 06:12:54 PM  

Ant: Weaver95: so I'm guessing i'll wait for someone to put it on bittorrent.

Looter!


can't stop the signal.
 
2011-04-26 06:20:50 PM  
I downloaded it off the net. It sucked.

It seemed like the Randian thing to do.
 
2011-04-26 06:21:42 PM  
But D.W. Griffith's "Way Down East" had much better dialogue
 
2011-04-26 06:26:01 PM  
Wait. So a movie that tells audiences they're parasites sucking the lifesblood of the rich and powerful ISN'T breaking box office records? Well color me shocked.
 
2011-04-26 06:29:38 PM  

gshepnyc: Heinlin makes Rand look like Socrates.


I dunno, The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress is a far more interesting, engaging and nuanced read than anything I've read by Rand.
 
2011-04-26 06:33:31 PM  

2wolves: gshepnyc: 2wolves: Tenorman's Tears: There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

/obligatory

Three actually; Starship Troopers/Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Very different views of Libertarianism.

Heinlin makes Rand look like Socrates.

Are you referring to Robert A. Heinlein? Mr. Heinlein proposed a number of different political solutions, some reasonable some extreme. Did you read about his views on theocracy?


I've tried on several occasions to embrace Heinlein. I admit to disliking most sci-fi literature with a handful of exceptions but I am also a libertarian and so I wanted to like Heinlein. There is a sort of petulance I can't tolerate in his writing. He shares an adolescent mind-set with Rand but also expects me to accept outlandishness that could not be further from relevant to me.

Also, while a constant theme of his is the triumph of the most able, and while I share in the celebration of meritocracy, it says a lot about his limited imagination - or maybe just his awareness of his juvenile male readership - that those characters who succeed in his stories tend always to do so by the same means. There is, to Heinlein, only one sort of competence and that tends to be a militaristic sort. Nothing wrong with military competence in its place, but after a while, as is the case with Rand's near-rape fantasies, Heinlein's jack off daydreams become way too obvious.
 
2011-04-26 06:43:08 PM  
I don't get the fiscal criticism. Everybody knew it was going to be a small grossing film with a limited audience.
 
2011-04-26 06:47:40 PM  

Ant: Looter!


just following his own rational, selfish path. It's what Rand would have wanted.
 
2011-04-26 06:49:05 PM  
It's almost like the free market of ideas has seen Objectivism as an unproductive failure of an ethos.

It's Morrisettianly ironic enough for me.
 
2011-04-26 06:49:11 PM  

vonster: I don't get the fiscal criticism. Everybody knew it was going to be a small grossing film with a limited audience.


Yeah, I think that is grasping, too. The producer made this film in order to hang on to the rights in hopes of a bigger film someday. Much the same as the reason they are cranking out a Spider-man reboot so soon. Otherwise, the rights revert to the owner.

I DO think a good movie could have been whittled out of Atlas Shrugged but you cannot make a good movie and be slavishly faithful to a novel at the same time. They are simply two different mediums.
 
2011-04-26 06:51:49 PM  

drewkumo: It's almost like the free market of ideas has seen Objectivism as an unproductive failure of an ethos.

It's Morrisettianly ironic enough for me.


Not really. Again, that's grasping. I'm not saying there are not legitimate criticism of Rand's ideas but this film version of her book is pretty cheap and sloppy and to say it's a lousy movie is independent from whatever you might think of the ideas in the story.
 
2011-04-26 07:00:41 PM  

gshepnyc: Not really. Again, that's grasping. I'm not saying there are not legitimate criticism of Rand's ideas but this film version of her book is pretty cheap and sloppy and to say it's a lousy movie is independent from whatever you might think of the ideas in the story.


No, don't get me wrong. Her ideas are garbage too, that has been demonstrated repeatedly.

I just think it's funny that a movie about a philosophy of production and self-achievement is falling flat on its face.

Seems to me that your assertion that someone would take a multi-million dollar loss on a film to "hang on" to the movie rights of a book published in 1957 is "grasping". Doesn't really matter, it will be very hard to find out how much the movie loses (or makes) because it's failure would be embarrassing to a particular political philosophy.
 
2011-04-26 07:02:22 PM  
Heinlein's good works (that I've read): Red Planet, Tunnel in the Sky, Stranger in a Strange Land.

I actually can't recall reading a bad one, but I'm sure there were - I just stopped and put them down. Shrug. Stranger in a Strange Land is a fantastic farkin novel. There are a ton of authors whose works are good and whose politics and philosophies are shiat. Rand, however, doesn't even possess that redeeming quality.
 
2011-04-26 07:17:20 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: But D.W. Griffith's "Way Down East" had much better dialogue


FTW!

I've read both The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged. The Fountainhead has camp value, but I'd never undertake reading either again. Atlas Shrugged was truly unbearable, especially John Galt's 120-page speech which has to stand as one of the ultimate exercises in literary redundancy.

I believe Hitchens got it right when he described both books as "transcendentally awful." That about sums it up.
 
2011-04-26 07:29:25 PM  

gshepnyc: vonster: I don't get the fiscal criticism. Everybody knew it was going to be a small grossing film with a limited audience.

Yeah, I think that is grasping, too. The producer made this film in order to hang on to the rights in hopes of a bigger film someday. Much the same as the reason they are cranking out a Spider-man reboot so soon. Otherwise, the rights revert to the owner.

I DO think a good movie could have been whittled out of Atlas Shrugged but you cannot make a good movie and be slavishly faithful to a novel at the same time. They are simply two different mediums.


Congratulations. I think you and I are the only 2 people on Fark aware of this concept.
 
2011-04-26 07:38:14 PM  

odinsposse: Thus the free market has determined that Ayn Rand's ideas have no worth.


Awesome.
 
2011-04-26 07:42:10 PM  

John Buck 41: gshepnyc: vonster: I don't get the fiscal criticism. Everybody knew it was going to be a small grossing film with a limited audience.

Yeah, I think that is grasping, too. The producer made this film in order to hang on to the rights in hopes of a bigger film someday. Much the same as the reason they are cranking out a Spider-man reboot so soon. Otherwise, the rights revert to the owner.

I DO think a good movie could have been whittled out of Atlas Shrugged but you cannot make a good movie and be slavishly faithful to a novel at the same time. They are simply two different mediums.

Congratulations. I think you and I are the only 2 people on Fark aware of this concept.


Goddammit, why did Jackson leave out the ending of The Return of the King!!!
 
2011-04-26 07:45:53 PM  

iaazathot: odinsposse: Thus the free market has determined that Ayn Rand's ideas have no worth.

Awesome.


Yes, let's not blame the screenwriter, actors, director, producer, any of the crew, etc. It's all on Ayn Rand.

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