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(The New York Times)   First they came for Green 3, and I didn't speak out as I did not eat Jello. They came for Red 40, and I didn't speak out as I did not eat Froot Loops. When they came for Yellow Number 6, Cheetos, there was no one left to speak out   (nytimes.com) divider line
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2011-04-04 02:44:43 AM  
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2011-04-04 02:45:06 AM  
 
2011-04-04 02:46:25 AM  
Just as long as they don't fark up the hot cheetos with lime. Make em gray. They all taste the same in the dark.
 
2011-04-04 02:47:45 AM  

cptjeff: LincolnLogolas: Nothing wrong with red 40, unless you're Jewish. They tend to now call it "carmine extract" on labels now, to get Away from the synthetic sounding name. It's just bug juice. There's another red food dye, forget what they call it in food, I know it as lac. Also a bug extract. I'd trust the bug extracts more than some of the crazy synthetics.

Red 40 is the synthetic stuff, formerly made from coal tar and now made from petroleum. Carmine is labeled simply as carmine, or as natural red 40, and it's a fair bit safer then most of the crap we pump into things.

It also has a long, illustrious, and fascinating history. Pick up the book "A Perfect Red".


THIS is the exact reason I came in here, and it blows my mind that somebody else beat me to it.

/free cochineal in my front yard; come and get it
//ugly little bugs...
 
2011-04-04 02:48:46 AM  

jessicat: They all taste the same in the dark.


That's what I said last night.
 
2011-04-04 02:49:02 AM  
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This could be a problem with skittles
 
2011-04-04 02:50:22 AM  
I'm detecting a lot of bullshiat in this thread from people who have made up diseases giving sensitivity to food dyes that have been around for >100 years.
 
2011-04-04 02:50:53 AM  

That Guy in the Dos Equis Commercials: The guy who drank the red fired off a Pringle's can that was jet black, which seems to be a sure sign of imminent death. He ran around like a retard on pudding day until he remembered what we had done.


One of these?

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2011-04-04 02:51:49 AM  
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2011-04-04 02:53:38 AM  

MadSkillz: I'm detecting a lot of bullshiat in this thread from people who have made up diseases giving sensitivity to food dyes that have been around for >100 years.



Then go read up on it, because there has been scientific research and sensitivity to these things has been shown.

Start on the pages I linked above, Tartrazine and Sunset Yellow.
 
2011-04-04 02:54:32 AM  
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2011-04-04 02:56:25 AM  
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2011-04-04 02:57:02 AM  

Hagbardr: One of these?


No. His stool was solid black.
 
2011-04-04 02:59:35 AM  
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2011-04-04 03:01:53 AM  

Copper Spork: This is insane. If 'natural' products were subjected to the same standards as 'artificial' ones, bread, milk and potatoes would be classified as deadly poisons.


Yes. I'm starting to get very, very tired of the retarded antics of the CSPI assholes. They're the jerks that killed off the old fashioned movie popcorn. They seriously need to DIAF.
 
2011-04-04 03:06:27 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Taste the (artificially colored) rainbow


I love going to the supermarket and seeing:

CHOCOLATE FLAVORED CHIP COOKIES

and

JUICY JUICE (CONTAINS NO JUICE)
 
2011-04-04 03:06:47 AM  
You know it's trolly time when someone disparages CSPI, the Center for Science in the Public Interest, as busybodies or buttinskies or, heaven forfend, the "Food Police" (the term that the restaurant industry came up with 20 years ago when CSPI dared to actually take their food to labs and tell people what was in it).

But truly, the "S" does stand for Science. CSPI's resources are found here (new window). If you want to read the references to clinical trials and studies of effects of food dyes in kids, in utero, and whatever else, go to the report here (new window, PDF).

Shamefully, that Times article could have been written by the food industry itself, because it mentions but glosses over the most important fact: in Britain, most of these food dyes are banned, and yet the junk food companies have gone on just fine. This consumer friendly article (new window, PDF) shows a few examples. In the USA, McDonald's makes their strawberry "sundae" red by using Red #40.

You know how they make it red in Britain? Strawberries, that's how. The testing shows some alarming patterns, dyes are known to completely fark up some people, and they're just not necessary. They sell Chee-tos in Britain without artificial dyes, but the food industry would kind of like you to think that they'll be forced to sell you all Soylent Beige unless you drink petroleum byproducts.

//"Strawberry! Hundred bucks a jar strawberries!"
 
2011-04-04 03:08:12 AM  
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2011-04-04 03:10:34 AM  
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2011-04-04 03:16:16 AM  

Buzzerguy: . This consumer friendly article (new window, PDF) shows a few examples. In the USA, McDonald's makes their strawberry "sundae" red by using Red #40.


From your link - "Why should Americans continue to consume these synthetic dyes when many multinational companies are phasing them out elsewhere?" asked CSPI director Michael Jacobson.


Why Michael? Let me tell you.

Because we're number 1!
Because if we stop the hippies have won!
Because "Natural" and "Organic" food is for elitist hipster douchebags!
Because if you have an allergic reaction you're a giant pussy!
Because the gubmit can stay out my cheetos! From my cold, dead, orange hands!
Because europe's full of goddamn socialists!

What more reason and evidence do you need Mr un-patriotic head of the CSPI? Go back to Cuba.
 
2011-04-04 03:20:19 AM  
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2011-04-04 03:25:44 AM  
*Reads comments*

Bravo Fark.
 
2011-04-04 03:25:54 AM  
In other news, grey-scaling foods is inaccurate.


In other news, no such "grey cheetos" study was done because the cheese additive is actually slightly pink and the stock is yellow.
 
Juc
2011-04-04 03:33:19 AM  
What would stop them from using the usual dye used in cheddar anyway?
That cheese isn't naturally the colour of citrus.
 
2011-04-04 03:40:29 AM  

jingks: jaylectricity: well, duh they don't taste as good when they're not Yellow #6...your senses work together to create a complex impression of every thing that you experience.

Blue waffles agree.


I do apologize. I searched for "blue waffles" on Google, but could not find any images.
 
2011-04-04 03:40:31 AM  
I want them to come out with bright blue Cheetos so it would look like I just ate a Smurf.
 
2011-04-04 03:40:32 AM  
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2011-04-04 03:46:19 AM  
I ate a can of blue pringles once. I think it was a patriotic theme, as in cans of red or white or blue.
Neon.
Green.
Feces.
 
2011-04-04 03:48:34 AM  
There are no organic foods in foxholes.
 
2011-04-04 03:50:33 AM  
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2011-04-04 03:59:28 AM  
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Red Octobah schtanding by.



/Pic is assembled model kit of Red October.
//Kind of want.
 
2011-04-04 04:02:06 AM  
Really, no one's going to quote the most awesomenessest line in the whole article?

"I could live without sprinkles, but why would I want to?"

Although I'd like to point out that Hoopers (new window) does have very pretty naturally-coloured sprinkles.

For those wondering about the pink ones, I googled Natural Colour 120 and it's cochineal. Yes, crushed bugs are natural. Yes, you can still have a bad reaction to natural flavouring.
 
2011-04-04 04:05:15 AM  
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/Just in case
//Pass the Porkins
 
2011-04-04 04:06:04 AM  

K3rmy: I do apologize. I searched for "blue waffles" on Google, but could not find any images.


They're delicious!

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2011-04-04 04:08:38 AM  

jingks: K3rmy: I do apologize. I searched for "blue waffles" on Google, but could not find any images.

They're delicious!


dammit! I just had to do it.....WAY NSFW Blue Waffle (new window)
 
2011-04-04 04:24:50 AM  

Gothnet: Buzzerguy: . This consumer friendly article (new window, PDF) shows a few examples. In the USA, McDonald's makes their strawberry "sundae" red by using Red #40.

From your link - "Why should Americans continue to consume these synthetic dyes when many multinational companies are phasing them out elsewhere?" asked CSPI director Michael Jacobson.


Why Michael? Let me tell you.

Because we're number 1!
Because if we stop the hippies have won!
Because "Natural" and "Organic" food is for elitist hipster douchebags!
Because if you have an allergic reaction you're a giant pussy!
Because the gubmit can stay out my cheetos! From my cold, dead, orange hands!
Because europe's full of goddamn socialists!

What more reason and evidence do you need Mr un-patriotic head of the CSPI? Go back to Cuba.


One non-snarky reason for you:

Who the flying fark are they to tell others what they can or can't eat or drink. The CSPI is no better than the the people who want to ban tobacco, or the jackasses at PETA, or the people at MADD who don't think any alcoholic beverage should taste good.
 
2011-04-04 04:36:35 AM  

summersa74: Who the flying fark are they to tell others what they can or can't eat or drink. The CSPI is no better than the the people who want to ban tobacco, or the jackasses at PETA, or the people at MADD who don't think any alcoholic beverage should taste good.



Err... did I miss the sarcasm?
'cos that's basically my "gubmit can stay out of mah cheetos" snark, restated.

They are a scientific establishment that has looked at the evidence and the behaviour in other countries and come to the conclusion that these colourings are -

harmful
unnecessary

People know tobacco is bad. People know too much booze is bad. We tell them all the time. Making companies put a disclaimer/warning on products containing known-bad colouring chemicals is not unreasonable.

I mean, (genuinely) do you actually want to eat Red 40 for some reason? Or tartrazine?

If there was a ban on french fries you would have a point. But this is not a desirable product being banned because excess of it is bad, it's an artificial colour with known side effects and very few benefits.
 
2011-04-04 05:09:52 AM  
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2011-04-04 05:17:41 AM  
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2011-04-04 05:32:11 AM  

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2011-04-04 05:45:00 AM  

summersa74: Who the flying fark are they to tell others what they can or can't eat or drink. The CSPI is no better than the the people who want to ban tobacco, or the jackasses at PETA, or the people at MADD who don't think any alcoholic beverage should taste good.


Eat and drink whatever the hell you want, I don't care and I doubt they care, it's your damn body. They just want you do it in full knowledge of the potential side effects so that you can be the judge of whether it's worth it. Sometimes, living life is worth a little risk, sometimes it's not. Look on the bright side, many times banned products have led to the development of entirely better products that would never have been researched otherwise. (The replacement of lead with tin in electronics and cadmium in trinkets is a notable failure.)

Food processors have had decades of research to get the warnings out to the public, to trade up to safer products, or to return to natural coloring, but have done none of it. Therefore the government can either mandate huge warning labels like tobacco and alcohol, or since people aren't addicted and viable alternatives are already used in most of the world, just ban it and let them use them.
 
2011-04-04 05:52:06 AM  
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2011-04-04 06:46:41 AM  
Could always substitute a fresh menstrual cycle for Red #40 & I'll bet you'll never notice the difference.

/try it on your Fruit Loops, you'll be pleasantly surprised...
 
2011-04-04 06:55:06 AM  

LincolnLogolas: Nothing wrong with red 40, unless you're Jewish. They tend to now call it "carmine extract" on labels now, to get Away from the synthetic sounding name. It's just bug juice. There's another red food dye, forget what they call it in food, I know it as lac. Also a bug extract. I'd trust the bug extracts more than some of the crazy synthetics.


Because God gets quite irate.
 
2011-04-04 06:58:03 AM  
All I know about color in food is that grape soda turns poop neon green.

Oh, and there was also this one time I tried making lollipops as a kid. I had raspberry flavoring and used liberal amounts of it but, as I was into coloring food differently (green milk in French Toast is really unappealing, BTW), I used yellow food coloring.

Swear to god the lollipops wound up tasting like butterscotch.
 
2011-04-04 07:11:12 AM  
CSPI is a bunch of douche bags. That said, anato or tumeric for yellow, beet or cabbage extract for red, etc. There are plenty of natural alternatives.
 
2011-04-04 07:31:57 AM  
Red #40 and Yellow #5

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2011-04-04 07:48:01 AM  

ChubbyTiger: CSPI is a bunch of douche bags. That said, anato or tumeric for yellow, beet or cabbage extract for red, etc. There are plenty of natural alternatives.


But cabbages and beets are so damn expensive!

I would imagine that if you got creative, you could draw dyes out of ends of food that would otherwise be tossed - say orange rinds after juicing (don't know if that specifically would work, just thinking). I don't know, but I do know that article was surprisingly crappy. Press release reworded + with a little extra thrown in to make it a real 'article'.
 
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