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2011-03-30 10:48:10 AM  
Here's a possible clue to solving this...

Link (new window)
 
2011-03-30 10:48:20 AM  

dittybopper: Since the encryption used non-carrying addition


Is that just to keep the code length down? 10 possible digits vs. 26? The whole encoding/decoding is actually remarkably elegant.
 
2011-03-30 10:51:10 AM  

danny_kay: Bartleby the Scrivener: if there is any degree of consistency between p1 and p2, the indented text should give it away, considering the repetition
(FLR SEPR SEON DE 71 NCBE)
(CDN SEPR SEON S DE 74 NCBE)
(BRT SEPR SEON RE DE 75 NCBE)

from lionfish, i think the Q originally posted in the (above)FLR SEPR sequence was incorrect. it's an R, but the printing made it look like a Q.

LOL.
"I don't know what it means, but I'm sure there's a mistake in it."


LOL
a mistake in transcription has nothing to do with the (in)significance of the source text itself.

\urfbxrd!
 
2011-03-30 10:52:31 AM  

unicron702: shijjiri: SideOfBacon: /thinks it means absolutely nothing and the murderer is sitting back getting a laugh

We established this hours ago. This isn't about the murder, it's about figuring out if this man liked white or wheat bread.

OK, here's what we've got: the Rand Corporation, in conjunction with the saucer people -- under the supervision of the reverse vampires -- are forcing our parents to go to bed early in a fiendish plot to eliminate the meal of dinner.

/We're through the looking glass here, people.


so another thread about DST?
 
2011-03-30 10:52:53 AM  
WHy are you all making this way more complicated then it needs to be? He developed the code as a kid. I can't imagine, especially knowing he wasn't the smartest guy around, that he was using any sort of complicated algorithms.
 
2011-03-30 10:53:06 AM  
If you replace all N C B and E with E A S T, you get some interesting results.

/probably nothing.
 
2011-03-30 10:59:29 AM  
JR'ER AB FGENATREF GB YBIR ~ LBH XABJ GUR EHYRF NAQ FB QB V ~ N SHYY PBZZVGZRAG'F JUNG V'Z GUVAXVAT BS ~ LBH JBHYQA'G TRG GUVF SEBZ NAL BGURE THL ~ V WHFG JNAAN GRYY LBH UBJ V'Z SRRYVAT ~ TBGGN ZNXR LBH HAQREFGNAQ ~ ARIRE TBAAN TVIR LBH HC ~ ARIRE TBAAN YRG LBH QBJA ~ ARIRE TBAAN EHA NEBHAQ NAQ QRFREG LBH ~ ARIRE TBAAN ZNXR LBH PEL ~ ARIRE TBAAN FNL TBBQOLR ~ ARIRE TBAAN GRYY N YVR NAQ UHEG LBH

Round and round it goes...
 
2011-03-30 10:59:46 AM  

dittybopper: It's an OK story, and not very educational. Personally, I call it the "Craptonimcon". I should be the ideal target audience for that book: I love the history of signals intelligence since first having read "The Codebreakers" by David Kahn as a kid, and I even went into SIGINT when I joined the Army. Yet I found it to be completely and truly farked. Perhaps because I'm knowledgeable about the actual history of it, I just couldn't suspend my disbelief.


I can understand that, I'm a stickler for anything having to do with aerodynamics. However, it gave me some much needed insights into "real world" creation and uses of codes. It was what I needed to wrap my brain around some basic concepts, such as the difficulties with generating a truly random number.

I'm very good with technical concepts, but encryption technology requires a type of thinking that I struggle with. To me it's more like black magic than science. I think that's true for a lot of people.
 
2011-03-30 11:00:26 AM  

PanicMan: dittybopper: Since the encryption used non-carrying addition

Is that just to keep the code length down? 10 possible digits vs. 26? The whole encoding/decoding is actually remarkably elegant.


Isn't it though?

The non-carrying addition method has a couple of advantages:

1. It keeps the code groups at 5 numbers. If you used traditional addition/subtraction, it would lengthen the groups significantly.

2. A mistake in addition/subtraction only effects one character, not a whole group. A single mistake won't propagate.

I didn't invent the thing, although I believe I *MAY* the first to suggest using 10-sided dice to generate the pads. I Googled it and I can't find any reference to it before I suggested it.

The best part is that if you implement it properly (manual paper and pencil encryption/decryption only, some form of manual way to make the pads like a manual typewriter, and you burn the materials after use, computer transmission of ciphertext *ONLY* permitted, no enciphering/deciphering/making pads on a computer), it's perfectly secure. Not even the NSA can crack it, because it's truly a one time pad, and the dice are truly random.
 
2011-03-30 11:00:42 AM  

Ihaveanevilparrot: This is NOT code. My dad writes EXACTLY this way if he's taking down notes for himself. Poor handwriting with mostly capital letters, a few lowercase mixed in and the words and abbreviations so close together you can't always tell if there's supposed to be a space or not. If he's writing something for someone else to read he makes sure to make it a bit more legible, but it's still always in capital letters. When he takes notes for himself off the phone I cannot tell what the hell they say unless I stare at them for awhile. He also writes down directions in the same manner they're written in the letter in the article, with very similar shorthand and nearly incomprehensible capital letters and spacing. You'd think it was written in code or by a mental patient.
The guy that wrote the stuff is also using inconsistent shorthand (as in he's using different abbreviations for the same stuff in places). I doubt he did it to codify it - more likely he just writes and thinks inconsistently.

If I look at this for awhile I can probably parse it out.

The people talking about directions to exits and stuff sound correct.

They had code breakers working on this? No wonder they didn't get anywhere. They need someone that can interpret horrible grammar, writing, and shorthand, not code.


Well, if you want to look at it like an uneducated cryptographer ...

from my own handwriting ....
a=u=n
e=i
b=h=n
δ=b

I havent done hand written notes in a along time, so I would have to recheck notes. Most errors occur because of hurried writing while teacher is talking. An uneducated cryptographer may use letter substations for personal notes.

Personal notes are not meant for you to decipher. They will be wrought with innuendo.

Most obvious glare about this, Wouldnt his house be filled with these notes? Where does the page with typed "NOTES" come from, a ledger?

"The only clues investigators recovered from the scene were two encrypted notes stuffed into the victim's pockets."
Was it ink or graphite? Stuffing paper written with graphite into your pocket will most likely smudge. If it was ink, how long ago was it written, ink is smudged is it still dry? I dont "stuff" notes into my pockets, I neatly fold them. Found at the edge of a corn field, I am sure someone went through his pockets that means they must have pulled the paper out and stuffed it back in, was it ever neatly folded?

What was his profession?
 
2011-03-30 11:01:38 AM  
So to be clear, and I think maybe many people are missing this important fact: the murderer did not create this note; it was the victim.
 
2011-03-30 11:03:10 AM  
Forgot to mention: You *NEVER* re-use pads. Burn/destroy each page immediately after you use it. I put the "one time pad" in my profile in quotes because it really isn't a true one time pad: I've used it before, and it's published so it's "blown".
 
2011-03-30 11:04:20 AM  
Looks like a message from Cthulu.
 
2011-03-30 11:06:30 AM  

PanicMan: It was what I needed to wrap my brain around some basic concepts, such as the difficulties with generating a truly random number.


Generating random numbers is *EASY*. Go buy some 10-sided dice. Don't use traditional 6-sided cubical dice if you are going to use them for generating one time pads, though, unless you are going to encrypt/decrypt using Base 6 arithmetic. Personally, I find it hard enough to do Base 10 ;)
 
2011-03-30 11:06:34 AM  
Anyone interested here is the letter usage



A________11________1.4
B________33________4.3
C________43________5.7
D________30________3.9
E_______132_______17.5
F________10________1.3
G_________7________0.9
H_________8________1.0
I_________8________1.0
J_________0________0
K________13________1.7
L________51________6.7
M________28________3.7
N________86_______11.4
O________12________1.5
P________29________3.8
Q_________2________0.2
R________65________8.6
S________97_______12.9
T________42________5.59
U________12________1.5
V_________3________0.3
W________15________1.9
X________11________1.4
Y_________2________0.2
Z_________1________0.1



As 'E' 'S' and 'N' get a disproportional amount of usage. combined they make up 40% of the note
 
2011-03-30 11:06:40 AM  

TotalReddit: sorry, but i've been reading fark comments for a long time now...you people are NOT who i would want on my defense team.


No probalo, nobody would have moved to defend you anyway.

Degenerate Monkey: So to be clear, and I think maybe many people are missing this important fact: the murderer did not create this note; it was the victim.


Well nothing is sure 100%. The note was found on the victim. Nobody said anything as to who the author is.
 
2011-03-30 11:08:11 AM  
Cthulu fhtagn?

/too obvious?
//got nothin'
///obviously
 
2011-03-30 11:09:03 AM  

Degenerate Monkey: So to be clear, and I think maybe many people are missing this important fact: the murderer did not create this note; it was the victim.


This is true, but it might have some insight as to what the victim was planning to do, who he was going to meet, etc. It might provide a clue that isn't known at this time that could lead to the killer.

Then again, it might not. No way to know unless you figure out what the message says, though.
 
2011-03-30 11:10:30 AM  

Degenerate Monkey: So to be clear, and I think maybe many people are missing this important fact: the murderer did not create this note; it was the victim.


So the victim committed the murder! Amazing. It's always the one you least suspect.
 
2011-03-30 11:11:43 AM  

Zed-ex: Anyone interested here is the letter usage

A________11________1.4
B________33________4.3
C________43________5.7
D________30________3.9
E_______132_______17.5
F________10________1.3
G_________7________0.9
H_________8________1.0
I_________8________1.0
J_________0________0
K________13________1.7
L________51________6.7
M________28________3.7
N________86_______11.4
O________12________1.5
P________29________3.8
Q_________2________0.2
R________65________8.6
S________97_______12.9
T________42________5.59
U________12________1.5
V_________3________0.3
W________15________1.9
X________11________1.4
Y_________2________0.2
Z_________1________0.1


As 'E' 'S' and 'N' get a disproportional amount of usage. combined they make up 40% of the note


I was initially thinking maybe it could be attacked like that, but noticed there were numbers so I dismissed it. Looking back, there are very few numbers so it looks like they're not being used as code for letters at all.
/I'm no help at this shiat though
 
2011-03-30 11:14:03 AM  

dittybopper:
This is true, but it might have some insight as to what the victim was planning to do, who he was going to meet, etc. It might provide a clue that isn't known at this time that could lead to the killer.


No doubt that's the value here; I wasn't contesting that this is worth trying to crack. There are just a lot of comments which seem to imply that the murderer wrote the note.
 
2011-03-30 11:14:06 AM  
It's part of the script for the first episode of season 5.

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2011-03-30 11:14:25 AM  
Knowing.

Would someone please get Nicholas Cage on this case?
 
2011-03-30 11:16:39 AM  
Has anyone yet suggested that he might have been making notes of some kind? I had a couple of leads/ideas, but I'm at work so I can't fully research them, as much as I'd like to.

IDEA #1: he was researching highways.
- 26MLSE74SPRKSE29KENOSOLEI73RTRSE has already been suggested as possibly being directions. A little bit of Wiki-crawling led me to Chrlotte, NC, where US route 74 meets up with US 29. I-73 also runs through this part of NC, and while I-74 is fragmented as it crosses NC, it's under construction, and one stretch of official interstate is 26 miles long. (Also, I-73 runs N/S, possibly accounting for the NOSO part of the notes.)

I also thought the 99.84.5 might be a convergence of highways somewhere along the way, and I found an intersection in Portland, OR where I-84 meets I-5 ... and the ramp-tangle happens right over SR 99. I have no idea what that has to do with anything, but it's nifty.

IDEA #2: he was researching stocks.

- FLR-SEPR-SEON are all stock codes. (And many other things, but still.) I originally got on this idea because of the CDN in the next line, thinking it was related to currency and that maybe FLR would be Florins or something. I was also thinking that 71, 74, 75 might be stock prices ("de" could be "Desirable" meaning he wants to buy or sell at that price?). The NCBE could stand for another stock code, or it could be the "No Change Before Entry" code slang alluded to in the Yahoo comments.

Common to both ideas of mine is the concept that he's not trying to be cryptic - just brief. I know that when I'm taking notes, half the time I'll use abbreviations or even slip into other languages just to be brief ("o eso" and "oder was" are both shorter to hand-write than "or something", by way of example). People who are feverishly taking notes will use their own abbreviations without thinking, and if this guy had a savant sort of mind, he probably had so many thoughts going on at once that he had to write things down as fast as possible.

Also, I'm a historian, so I'm used to researching some downright daffy things (I spent a whole afternoon reading phone books from the 1890s once, just looking for commonalities in the addresses. I'm sure my notes would be baffling at best to an onlooker with no context!!). Maybe he was just really interested in something, like highway anomalies or stock prices?
 
2011-03-30 11:16:55 AM  
I think the reason why the FBI is so concerned about deciphering the notes is because they want to know what he was doing prior to his murder. Where was he going, where was he coming from, was there someone he was meeting, etc.
 
2011-03-30 11:23:26 AM  
Those aren't small t's it's + () - I think it's partially an equation.
 
2011-03-30 11:23:47 AM  

sxacho: Cryptonom


Something like Mind Hunter, or a poetry class would give more perspective. I havent had a linguistics class; anyone know how much they emphasize knowing the culture before knowing the language?
 
2011-03-30 11:24:58 AM  

sxacho: Stand back everyone; I've read Cryptonomicon.


Stupid quoting only doing highlighted.
 
2011-03-30 11:25:56 AM  

Zed-ex: Anyone interested here is the letter usage

...

As 'E' 'S' and 'N' get a disproportional amount of usage. combined they make up 40% of the note


Which given the sample size isn't horribly outside normal english proportions ( Oxford says they'd be around 24% from my in-the-head-addition).

Given that A I and O are underrepresented, they may be lumped in with E, or simply omitted for brevity in short hand.
 
2011-03-30 11:27:43 AM  
Well it's quite obvious that he was using a simple polyphoneticly grouped twenty square digit key, transposed from booster verdonic form, with multiple nulls. It just so happens that I have my box of Lucky Charms here too.

You're welcome.
 
2011-03-30 11:27:44 AM  
IDEA #2: he was researching stocks.

I think we have a winner on this one.


warrant/limit/day erte, estimated route to exit

and plenty more stock related stuff in there.
 
2011-03-30 11:29:24 AM  
rmcows?
mrcows.
rusuremrcows?
osmrcows!
 
2011-03-30 11:30:25 AM  

PanicMan: The whole encoding/decoding is actually remarkably elegant.


You want to know another elegant (but less secure) method of encryption/decryption? The Strip Cipher.

Here is one that I built based on the US M-94 "wheel" cipher:

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It's dirt simple to use. You just line up your plaintext, in this case I have it at the bottom, right above the retaining strip:

SENDLAWYERSGUNSANDMONEYXX

All you have to do then is pick any other line as your ciphertext. For example, you might choose the line 6 rows down from the top retaining strip (separated into groups to make it more readable):

ZLZKY HSSAH CZWCZ JOUIZ AGTCB

The other person has to have his strips in the same order that you do, and he just takes that ciphertext and lines it up on his device, and looks for the line with plaintext. It should "pop" out at you, because it will be the only one that isn't gibberish.

It's crackable if there is enough traffic in it, but for low amounts of traffic and a large number of strips (the US M-138A had something like 100 strips, only 25 to 30 were used at a time) it would be secure enough. You'd have to make your own strips, but it's pretty easy. I've done it using Scrabble tiles pulled from a bag to ensure randomized alphabets (only 1 tile per letter in the alphabet, obviously). Each alphabet is doubled on a strip to ensure that you have enough overlap.

You can also build a "wheel" version, but the strip version is easier to make, and cryptographically it's identical.
 
2011-03-30 11:39:08 AM  

Jello Fever: ENOPFSENLSRENCBE NTEGDDMNSENCURERCBRNE


Goddamn sense?
 
2011-03-30 11:41:18 AM  

Sofa King Smart: rmcows?
mrcows.
rusuremrcows?
osmrcows!


MR MICE
MR KNOT
OSAR
CMBDI'S N MEDBD FEET
LIB
MR MICE!
 
2011-03-30 11:42:04 AM  

Sofa King Smart: rmcows?
mrcows.
rusuremrcows?
osmrcows!


Nojo demis dux.
 
2011-03-30 11:43:28 AM  
it's just been posted to foxnews

this should be good

samking73
yep! what was that Shakespeare line? "i think the liberal doth protest too much"

uramook
it says don't vote for the kenyan he will make a horrible senator, and a worse president

Jess
MY DAD USED TO BE A MASON, AND I THOSE CODES LOOK MASON...THEY SHOULD CONTACT THE MASONERY SOCIETY

daveyoung
If they can figure this out, maybe the same kids can find out the details of Barack`s campaign kickbacks from ACORN

2lib4me
Calling all code crackers: The FBI needs your help.
Isn't this raciest, code "cracker". I am totally amazed that some leftwing liberal, progressive has not brought this to the Obama media state run press and blamed the raciest TEA party.
I am sure if it was, calling all " code-chuckers", it would be all over the place.
He or she who clams racism is most likely the raciest.

joeblk
somebody here should be able to do this with ease....and it wont be a LIb neither....lol
 
2011-03-30 11:44:10 AM  

BLIXX: I think the most blatant part about the 2nd note is that it says "NOTE" right at the top of the page in clean form. Recently played Myst and Arkham asylum.


The note was written by the victim. He wrote similar notes his whole life.
 
2011-03-30 11:45:13 AM  
ALPNTE GLSE-SE ERTE
VLSE MTSE-CTSE-WSE-FRTSE
PNRTRSE ONDRSEWLD NCBE
NWLDZLRCMSPNEWLDSTSMEXL
DULMT6TUNSE NCBEXC
(MUNSAISTENMUNARSE)
KLSE-LRSTE-TRSE-TRSE-MKSEN-MRSE
(SAE6NSE SE NMBSE)
NMNRCBRNSEPTE2PTEWSREBKNSE
26MLSE74SPRKSE29KENOSOLE173RTRSE
356LE CLGSEOUNUTKEDKRSE PSESHLE
651MTCSEHTLSENCUTCTRS NMRE
99.84.5 5UNEPLSENCRSEADLTSENSKSENBSE
NSREONSE PVTSEWLDNCBE (3XORL)
NMSENRSEIN2NTRLERCBRNSENTSRCRBNE
LSPNSENGSPSEMKSEKBSEPCBEAVXL'R
HMCRENMREFCBE 1/2MUNDPLSE
D-W-M14HIL XDRLX
(MNDMKNEARSE-N-S-M-KNARE)
TFRHENPINSENPBSERCBBNSENPRSEINC
PRSENMRSE DPREHLDWLDNCBE(TFXLFTCXLNCBE)
AL-PRPPITXLYPPIYNCBE MGKSEWCDRCBRNSEPRSE
WLDRCBRNSE NTSSHENTXSE-CRSLE-CLTRSEWLDNCBE
ALWLDNCBETSMELRSERLSEURGLNEASNWLDNCBE
(NOPFSENLSRENCBE)NTEGDDMNSENCURERCBRNE
(TENETFRNE NCBRTSENCBEING)
(FLRSEPQSEONDE71NCBE)
(CDNSEPRSEONSDE74NCBE)
(BRTSEPRSEONREDE75NCBE)
(TFNQCMSPSOLEMRDELUSE TOTEWLDN1HLDNCBE)
(194WLD'SNCBE)(TRFXL)

I noticed many repetitions; NCBE was used a lot, on a hunch though it might be FRDY? And the rest fell into place.

Full message deciphered:

7am, waking up in the morning
Gotta be fresh, gotta go downstairs
Gotta have my bowl, gotta have cereal
Seein' everything, the time is goin'
Tickin' on and on, everybody's rushin'
Gotta get down to the bus stop
Gotta catch my bus, I see my friends (My friends)
Kickin' in the front seat
Sittin' in the back seat
Gotta make my mind up
Which seat can I take?
It's Friday, Friday
Gotta get down on Friday
Everybody's lookin' forward to the weekend, weekend
Friday, Friday
Gettin' down on Friday
Everybody's lookin' forward to the weekend
Partyin', partyin' (Yeah)
Partyin', partyin' (Yeah)
Fun, fun, fun, fun
Lookin' forward to the weekend
7:45, we're drivin' on the highway
Cruisin' so fast, I want time to fly
Fun, fun, think about fun
You know what it is
I got this, you got this
My friend is by my right
I got this, you got this
Now you know it
Kickin' in the front seat
Sittin' in the back seat
Gotta make my mind up
Which seat can I take?
It's Friday, Friday
Gotta get down on Friday
Everybody's lookin' forward to the weekend, weekend
Friday, Friday
Gettin' down on Friday
Everybody's lookin' forward to the weekend
Partyin', partyin' (Yeah)
Partyin', partyin' (Yeah)
Fun, fun, fun, fun
Lookin' forward to the weekend
Yesterday was Thursday, Thursday
Today i-is Friday, Friday (Partyin')
We-we-we so excited
We so excited
We gonna have a ball today
Tomorrow is Saturday
And Sunday comes after...wards
I don't want this weekend to end
R-B, Rebecca Black
So chillin' in the front seat (In the front seat)
In the back seat (In the back seat)
I'm drivin', cruisin' (Yeah, yeah)
Fast lanes, switchin' lanes
Wit' a car up on my side (Woo!)
(C'mon) Passin' by is a school bus in front of me
Makes tick tock, tick tock, wanna scream
Check my time, it's Friday, it's a weekend
We gonna have fun, c'mon, c'mon, y'all
It's Friday, Friday
Gotta get down on Friday
Everybody's lookin' forward to the weekend, weekend
Friday, Friday
Gettin' down on Friday
Everybody's lookin' forward to the weekend
Partyin', partyin' (Yeah)
Partyin', partyin' (Yeah)
Fun, fun, fun, fun
Lookin' forward to the weekend
It's Friday, Friday
Gotta get down on Friday
Everybody's lookin' forward to the weekend, weekend
Friday, Friday
Gettin' down on Friday
Everybody's lookin' forward to the weekend
Partyin', partyin' (Yeah)
Partyin', partyin' (Yeah)
Fun, fun, fun, fun
Lookin' forward to the weekend

I'm not sure what it means, maybe no one ever will.
 
2011-03-30 11:45:28 AM  
missed this baby

confederatemny Just now
It says:
(I like sugar and I like tea)
(but I dont like ni[yeah he went for a double 6 here]ers no sire)
(theres two lone things thatll make me puke)
(thats a hog eatin slop and a big b l a c k sp oo k)
 
2011-03-30 11:45:29 AM  
There should find an gifted autistic savant and see if he can figure it out.

//cant use rainman, he died
 
2011-03-30 11:45:29 AM  
dittybopper:

I didn't invent the thing, although I believe I *MAY* the first to suggest using 10-sided dice to generate the pads. I Googled it and I can't find any reference to it before I suggested it.

The best part is that if you implement it properly (manual paper and pencil encryption/decryption only, some form of manual way to make the pads like a manual typewriter, and you burn the materials after use, computer transmission of ciphertext *ONLY* permitted, no enciphering/deciphering/making pads on a computer), it's perfectly secure. Not even the NSA can crack it, because it's truly a one time pad, and the dice are truly random.

Now you have me thinking about doing this for my passwords, but using a d30 and adding some characters. Sadly, this is not the first time Fark has made me read up on encryption.

/well maybe sadly
 
2011-03-30 11:45:30 AM  
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2011-03-30 11:45:59 AM  

Opposite: BLIXX: I think the most blatant part about the 2nd note is that it says "NOTE" right at the top of the page in clean form. Recently played Myst and Arkham asylum.

The note was written by the victim. He wrote similar notes his whole life.


Oh and he was also an idiot.
 
2011-03-30 11:47:12 AM  
donnyd: (Toynbee image)

Funny... is that a Cincinnati reference? Here's the Toynbee at 6th and Main St in Cincinnati, just for extra weirdness:

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2011-03-30 11:47:19 AM  
Maybe it's a Perl script..
 
2011-03-30 11:47:44 AM  

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Honey, is that you? I didn't know you were on Fark!
 
2011-03-30 11:47:56 AM  
knowfool 29 minutes ago
Let's see, I think it says "Baby boy, Barry Sartero (whatever), Kenya, 1961..."
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2011-03-30 11:53:37 AM  

Pickerel: Now you have me thinking about doing this for my passwords, but using a d30 and adding some characters.


Why bother? Pick a short memorable word*, and throw 10-sided dice to generate 5 digits. Put those numbers in front of, behind, inside, or interspersed with the word. Secure enough, as the numbers are random, even if the word isn't.

*But not too short.
 
2011-03-30 11:55:57 AM  

dittybopper: It's so deviously simple, you'll kick yourself for not trying....


You know what, looking at the wiki on it I gave up as soon as I started. Given the effort you quite clearly went to to type that all out (I even appreciated the "mom" joke!) I resolved to give it a go. I won't say my understanding is perfect, far from it, but it helped a huge amount. You have my honest and sincere gratitude for teaching me something new. Thanks!
 
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