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2011-03-29 09:49:09 PM  
It was written by a liter and it says "if you sponsor me for six months and give me lots of boobie links and beer, I'll knock that farker off for you".

The Tfer said "Sure Gary, I think we can probably work something out but do me a favor, no talking politics all the time....".

/The rest is history.
 
2011-03-29 10:23:10 PM  
I've got a partial translation:

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2011-03-29 10:31:11 PM  
"Be sure to drink your Ovaltine."
 
2011-03-29 10:56:36 PM  
I'm not entirely sure, but I think that may be a windows 8 product key.

/VEJB
//may take a peek at this, but I'm not a crypto guy.
 
2011-03-29 11:02:57 PM  
Anyone consider it might just be random letters and numbers?
 
2011-03-29 11:32:51 PM  
We need that Farker who had supposedly solved the Zodiac murders.
 
2011-03-29 11:36:59 PM  

FlyingLizardOfDoom: Anyone consider it might just be random letters and numbers?


My exact thought. If I were ever going to leave a note at a crime scene I'd just deliberately put in a fake string to mess with people.
 
2011-03-29 11:37:16 PM  
Don't look at me, I can't even finish the crossword.
 
2011-03-29 11:53:35 PM  

Andromeda: FlyingLizardOfDoom: Anyone consider it might just be random letters and numbers?

My exact thought. If I were ever going to leave a note at a crime scene I'd just deliberately put in a fake string to mess with people.


Did you ever notice how cryptology died with the invention of the computer?

Sure, we call security algorithms cryptology, but it's not the same as it was in the 1800's when people were bored enough to try and crack those codes by hand. And why would a murderer actually leave a clue to help the cops in the encrypted message anyway? What fun is that?
 
2011-03-29 11:57:14 PM  
Why not use a fractal encryption code?

/Data did it...
 
2011-03-29 11:58:41 PM  
If anyone figures it out before I do let me know. I love Myst games but I can't avoid cheating either.
 
2011-03-30 12:12:55 AM  
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The notes section doesn't look like code more like shorthand. Like aplnte glse - south east

Last part

Day-Week-Month-Year ?/? XDRLX could be a key.
 
2011-03-30 12:21:10 AM  
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"~" is obviously a break.

and "cbe" and "are" have to be some sort of note to use a certain key.
 
2011-03-30 12:26:31 AM  
One page:

ALPNTE GLSE-SE ERTE
VLSE MTSE-CTSE-WSE-FRTSE
PNRTRSE ONDRSEWLD NCBE
NWLDZLRCMSPNEWLDSTSMEXL
DULMT6TUNSE NCBEXC
(MUNSAISTENMUNARSE)
KLSE-LRSTE-TRSE-TRSE-MKSEN-MRSE
(SAE6NSE SE NMBSE)
NMNRCBRNSEPTE2PTEWSREBKNSE
26MLSE74SPRKSE29KENOSOLE173RTRSE
356LE CLGSEOUNUTKEDKRSE PSESHLE
651MTCSEHTLSENCUTCTRS NMRE
99.84.5 5UNEPLSENCRSEADLTSENSKSENBSE
NSREONSE PVTSEWLDNCBE (3XORL)
NMSENRSEIN2NTRLERCBRNSENTSRCRBNE
LSPNSENGSPSEMKSEKBSEPCBEAVXL'R
HMCRENMREFCBE 1/2MUNDPLSE
D-W-M14HIL XDRLX
 
2011-03-30 12:27:06 AM  
Other page:

(MNDMKNEARSE-N-S-M-KNARE)
TFRHENPINSENPBSERCBBNSENPRSEINC
PRSENMRSE DPREHLDWLDNCBE(TFXLFTCXLNCBE)
AL-PRPPITXLYPPIYNCBE MGKSEWCDRCBRNSEPRSE
WLDRCBRNSE NTSSHENTXSE-CRSLE-CLTRSEWLDNCBE
ALWLDNCBETSMELRSERLSEURGLNEASNWLDNCBE
(NOPFSENLSRENCBE)NTEGDDMNSENCURERCBRNE
(TENETFRNE NCBRTSENCBEING)
(FLRSEPQSEONDE71NCBE)
(CDNSEPRSEONSDE74NCBE)
(BRTSEPRSEONREDE75NCBE)
(TFNQCMSPSOLEMRDELUSE TOTEWLDN1HLDNCBE)
(194WLD'SNCBE)(TRFXL)
 
2011-03-30 12:28:17 AM  
Lotta TE and SE going on there at the end of most words. Like pig latin.
 
2011-03-30 12:30:52 AM  
You know, if the feds have had it for 11 years and gotten nowhere, my money is on a one time pad. or two of them.
 
2011-03-30 12:42:19 AM  

lionfish: Other page:

(MNDMKNEARSE-N-S-M-KNARE)
TFRHENPINSENPBSERCBBNSENPRSEINC
PRSENMRSE DPREHLDWLDNCBE(TFXLFTCXLNCBE)
AL-PRPPITXLYPPIYNCBE MGKSEWCDRCBRNSEPRSE
WLDRCBRNSE NTSSHENTXSE-CRSLE-CLTRSEWLDNCBE
ALWLDNCBETSMELRSERLSEURGLNEASNWLDNCBE
(NOPFSENLSRENCBE)NTEGDDMNSENCURERCBRNE
(TENETFRNE NCBRTSENCBEING)
(FLRSEPQSEONDE71NCBE)
(CDNSEPRSEONSDE74NCBE)
(BRTSEPRSEONREDE75NCBE)
(TFNQCMSPSOLEMRDELUSE TOTEWLDN1HLDNCBE)
(194WLD'SNCBE)(TRFXL)


Thanks lion give me something to cypher on my downtime at work.
 
2011-03-30 12:45:23 AM  
Article unclear on whether these were the victims or the killers documents we are looking at.
 
2011-03-30 12:47:44 AM  

jimmyego: Article unclear on whether these were the victims or the killers documents we are looking at.


FTA: The only clues investigators recovered from the scene were two encrypted notes stuffed into the victim's pockets.

Good point. I think a normal person walks around with highly encrypted pieces of paper.
 
2011-03-30 12:48:35 AM  
HACK THE PLANET!

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2011-03-30 12:51:36 AM  
I think the most blatant part about the 2nd note is that it says "NOTE" right at the top of the page in clean form. Recently played Myst and Arkham asylum.
 
2011-03-30 12:51:54 AM  
Well, I rot-13'd it and got nothing, so I give up.
 
2011-03-30 12:52:01 AM  
Possibly anagramatic?
 
2011-03-30 12:52:39 AM  
that meant to say "NOTES" damn keyboard.
 
2011-03-30 12:54:58 AM  
I suspect the average Farker couldn't crack the code to a woman's bra, let alone this obscure encryption that the NSA can't break.
 
2011-03-30 01:20:28 AM  

lionfish: Other page:

(MNDMKNEARSE-N-S-M-KNARE)
TFRHENPINSENPBSERCBBNSENPRSEINC
PRSENMRSE DPREHLDWLDNCBE(TFXLFTCXLNCBE)
AL-PRPPITXLYPPIYNCBE MGKSEWCDRCBRNSEPRSE
WLDRCBRNSE NTSSHENTXSE-CRSLE-CLTRSEWLDNCBE
ALWLDNCBETSMELRSERLSEURGLNEASNWLDNCBE
(NOPFSENLSRENCBE)NTEGDDMNSENCURERCBRNE
(TENETFRNE NCBRTSENCBEING)
(FLRSEPQSEONDE71NCBE)
(CDNSEPRSEONSDE74NCBE)
(BRTSEPRSEONREDE75NCBE)
(TFNQCMSPSOLEMRDELUSE TOTEWLDN1HLDNCBE)
(194WLD'SNCBE)(TRFXL)


It doesn't have a normal letter distribution, which means that it's not a simple substitution cypher, which puts it beyond 99% of the Farkers out there (including myself).

Of course, if it was a simple substitution cypher, the FBI would have cracked it in about 2 seconds.

Apparently, the murder victim, according to other news articles I found, had spent his entire life tinkering with cryptography. But, he was a high school dropout.

So, either he was a savant or he created something that is made to look like a cypher but is just gibberish.
 
2011-03-30 01:30:41 AM  
Well, towards the middle of the page, one of the strings begins with TF. So obviously this is a person who has $5 a month to spend.
 
2011-03-30 01:35:18 AM  
Is there some reason the FBI can't get help from the NSA? One would think the NSA could brute force it if nothing else.
 
2011-03-30 02:20:09 AM  

SchlingFocker: lionfish: Other page:

(MNDMKNEARSE-N-S-M-KNARE)
TFRHENPINSENPBSERCBBNSENPRSEINC
PRSENMRSE DPREHLDWLDNCBE(TFXLFTCXLNCBE)
AL-PRPPITXLYPPIYNCBE MGKSEWCDRCBRNSEPRSE
WLDRCBRNSE NTSSHENTXSE-CRSLE-CLTRSEWLDNCBE
ALWLDNCBETSMELRSERLSEURGLNEASNWLDNCBE
(NOPFSENLSRENCBE)NTEGDDMNSENCURERCBRNE
(TENETFRNE NCBRTSENCBEING)
(FLRSEPQSEONDE71NCBE)
(CDNSEPRSEONSDE74NCBE)
(BRTSEPRSEONREDE75NCBE)
(TFNQCMSPSOLEMRDELUSE TOTEWLDN1HLDNCBE)
(194WLD'SNCBE)(TRFXL)

It doesn't have a normal letter distribution, which means that it's not a simple substitution cypher, which puts it beyond 99% of the Farkers out there (including myself).


Lots of repetition though (lines ending in NCBE, etc SEPRSEON)
my guess is gibberish.
 
2011-03-30 02:25:50 AM  
It says, 'ha, ha, this really isn't a secret message, im just messing with y'all'
 
2011-03-30 02:34:53 AM  
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2011-03-30 02:43:43 AM  

brainiac-dumdum: It says, 'ha, ha, this really isn't a secret message, im just messing with y'all'


Yeah, I'm thinking the same. He was probably killed in a random robbery and this is just his grocery list that he wrote in code for shiats and giggles.

NCBRTSENCBEING is probably LUNCHABLES
 
2011-03-30 02:56:40 AM  
Looks like there's a structure to it. Almost as if the first few groups of letters at the start of the first page were what you have to solve in order to work out the rest of it. Looks like it could be a key, just need to find what fits with it. Either that or it's some intermediary step, where you have to first figure out a cypher pass the letters through it, then pass them through a second step to actually figure out what it says.
 
2011-03-30 03:09:49 AM  
I just went through one of the pages counting characters, there's a fair spread of values, but it's not such a spread you could say offhand it's just random. And only two of the odd number counts aren't prime numbers.
 
2011-03-30 05:18:31 AM  
Far too many 'E's to represent any single letter - I suggest they might represent the space or delimiter between words
 
2011-03-30 05:29:14 AM  

luckyeddie: Far too many 'E's to represent any single letter - I suggest they might represent the space or delimiter between words


And or single letters are unimportant and adjacent letters are the important consideration.
 
2011-03-30 05:30:07 AM  
Is someone going to come tell us that reddit solved it three days ago?
 
2011-03-30 05:32:28 AM  
q appears twice - once followed by s once by c
 
2011-03-30 05:32:32 AM  

brainiac-dumdum: It says, 'ha, ha, this really isn't a secret message, im just messing with y'all'


That's what I thought after seeing the documentary about the Voynich Manuscript (see LordOfThePings xckd strip).
It was supposedly written by two guys who claimed to be alchemists. So of course they needed a spellbook that looked sufficiently mystical for performing bogus rituals.
It's not a code, it's a prop.
 
2011-03-30 05:32:49 AM  
maybe he was dyslexic
 
2011-03-30 05:33:47 AM  
second page, first line, last word "that"

duh
 
2011-03-30 05:36:15 AM  

ktybear: maybe he was dyslexic


That's an interesting thought. What happens with a code if one writing it was borderline illiterate to begin with? Perhaps a really bad speller, or talking in LOLcat
 
2011-03-30 05:36:35 AM  
x - 11 times; about half the time immediately followed by l, and a few more times with an l within a couple of letters
 
2011-03-30 05:36:44 AM  
Character counts for the first page (based on lionfishs posted text):

[ ] - 16
['] - 1
[(] - 3
[)] - 3
[-] - 11
[.] - 2
[/] - 1
[A] - 6
- 12
[C] - 17
[D] - 11
[E] - 72
[F] - 2
[G] - 3
[H] - 4
- 3
[K] - 10
[L] - 27
[M] - 19
[N] - 40
[O] - 6
[P] - 13
[R] - 33
[S] - 61
[T] - 25
- 9
[V] - 3
[W] - 7
[X] - 6
[Z] - 1
[1] - 4
[2] - 5
[3] - 3
[4] - 3
[5] - 4
[6] - 5
[7] - 2
[8] - 1
[9] - 3


Second page:

[ ] - 5
['] - 1
[(] - 10
[)] - 10
[-] - 7
[A] - 5
- 21
[C] - 26
[D] - 19
[E] - 60
[F] - 8
[G] - 4
[H] - 4
- 5
[K] - 3
[L] - 24
[M] - 9
[N] - 46
[O] - 6
[P] - 16
[Q] - 2
[R] - 32
[S] - 36
[T] - 17
- 3
[W] - 8
[X] - 5
[Y] - 2
[1] - 3
[4] - 2
[5] - 1
[7] - 3
[9] - 1


And overall:

[ ] - 21
['] - 2
[(] - 13
[)] - 13
[-] - 18
[.] - 2
[/] - 1
[A] - 11
- 33
[C] - 43
[D] - 30
[E] - 132
[F] - 10
[G] - 7
[H] - 8
- 8
[K] - 13
[L] - 51
[M] - 28
[N] - 86
[O] - 12
[P] - 29
[Q] - 2
[R] - 65
[S] - 97
[T] - 42
- 12
[V] - 3
[W] - 15
[X] - 11
[Y] - 2
[Z] - 1
[1] - 7
[2] - 5
[3] - 3
[4] - 5
[5] - 5
[6] - 5
[7] - 5
[8] - 1
[9] - 4
 
2011-03-30 05:38:30 AM  
What if it's not based on English?
 
2011-03-30 05:38:36 AM  
Oh yikes. When did Fark start accepting BB-Code?
 
2011-03-30 05:38:36 AM  
It could be a bit crazy, but maybe he's using a weird substitution per line?

Like using the telephone for randomizing numbers with letters. I've used that before, with PIN Numbers. Example: fark = 3275 = dapj. But on the second line it could be ebqk, 3rd fcrl, 4th dbrj.

Could even be he's using an ABC keyboard to a qwerty keyboard design in his writing, but that would be easy to break.
 
2011-03-30 05:39:34 AM  
"rse" appears 20 times
 
2011-03-30 05:40:51 AM  
If anyone has/wants to write a Win64/MPI distributed decryption algorithm, I may be able to get time on a midsized hpc environment. PM to chat further.
 
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