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(BBC)   Lasagna a British recipe, claim researchers of the world's oldest cookery book. Asshat Jamie Oliver still thinks it's "pukka"   ( news.bbc.co.uk) divider line
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2003-07-15 09:54:07 AM  
Yeah... Lasagna even sounds british
2003-07-15 09:55:18 AM  
If it tastes good, it can't be British.
2003-07-15 09:56:11 AM  
Is murder still considered wrong if you kill Jamie Oliver? It's for the public good.
2003-07-15 09:57:05 AM  
Lasagna can't be British. Lasagna is baked not boiled until all the flavor is gone.
2003-07-15 09:57:55 AM  
Uh, why is Jamie Oliver an "asshat"? He do something I missed?

His show's ok. I don't really watch too often but occasionally he has a cool recipe or cooking trick that I'll tune in for a few minutes.

Or is it just that he's young, successful and British? (3 strikes - yer ouuta here!)
2003-07-15 09:58:27 AM  
I like Jamie Oliver.
2003-07-15 10:00:24 AM  
Mmmmm Jamie Oliver.
2003-07-15 10:02:19 AM  
I didn't know Americans were aware of Jamie Oliver.

Can you keep him?
2003-07-15 10:02:27 AM  
I'll put up with the h*r bashing, the gun control flame wars, and the abortion flame wars, but I will not stand for any Jamie bashing!!
2003-07-15 10:02:59 AM  
and i like lasagna.
2003-07-15 10:03:22 AM  
I gotta agree with Inyego and Ouroborus. I love England, but you'd think that hundreds of years of colonization all over the world would have given the Brits better food than they have. Unless you really like fried fish & chips, and curry shops. Or they can blame it on the Welsh. :-)

P.S. Gotta lay off Jaime Oliver. If he was half as annoying as Emeril he'd be pulled off his scooter and pummeled in the street.
2003-07-15 10:03:44 AM  
Mmmmmmmm, steamed ham.....
2003-07-15 10:04:45 AM  

Lasagne, Vienna-Schnitzel, Sushi, Hot Dogs, Curry, Chicken Chow Mein...

It's all British really. Britain is the source of all knowledge!
2003-07-15 10:06:49 AM  
TheAnusThatAteManhattan:- He has fake friends, a fake accent, and you can't get away from him. He does every BBC show there is, and you turn over to ITV and he's in all teh adverts.
2003-07-15 10:08:32 AM  
People don't like Jamie because his restaurant is ridiculously expensive, and the food (prepared by fifteen homeless people he pulled off the street [i crap you not--thus the name, 15]) is often sub-standard. But you can't get a reservation. I think that's it anyway.
2003-07-15 10:08:33 AM  
I take it that Jamie is extremely overexposed over there, across the pond, huh?

In that case, sure. He is adorable (okay, perhaps he needs a little dental work ;->) and more importantly, I like his basic cooking techniques. I can't say I like the new Americanized version of his show, however--I wish the powers that be at the Food Network would have kept the original one. And doesn't he name his daughters after flowers?
2003-07-15 10:11:05 AM  
jamie's cool and all, but anthony bourdain could kick his ass any day. of course, alton brown reigns supmere over all.

oh, and the obligatory f*ck emeril. and for that matter, f*ck rachel wray. i'm mister sensitivity and all of that... i'll respect a woman, listen to her, hell i even do all the cleaning around the house. but something about rachel wray makes me want to fark her in the ass until she cries, and then toss her out of a moving car.

er, that's just my little issues. don't mind me.
2003-07-15 10:11:09 AM  
2003-07-15 10:06:49 AM jay_vee

TheAnusThatAteManhattan:- He has fake friends, a fake accent, and you can't get away from him. He does every BBC show there is, and you turn over to ITV and he's in all teh adverts.

Ah, so in other words he's a "celebrity"? ;-]

At least he's not a she, or he'd have fake t*ts as well.
2003-07-15 10:14:51 AM  
Yep, Brits can now add lasagne to their culinary achievements, which include warm beer, soggy beans and spotted dick.

This is the one place where my american jingoism gets the best of me - we have the best food! contrary to the stereotype, we do not all eat supersized value meals. san francisco sourdough bakeries, NYC delis, cajun cooking, melt-in-your-mouth texas barbeque (not with a "c", english), new england lobstah rolls, and southern style fried chicken are the greatest parts of our country.

i think only the various indian recipes out-do some of our specialties.
2003-07-15 10:16:10 AM  
Just_Another_Girl:- I have nothing against his cooking. I just can't stand celebrity chefs who feel they have to tack on a pretend personality to be interesting. We have loads of them over here - there's a guy called Ainsley Harriott who's easily the most irritating person on the planet.
2003-07-15 10:17:04 AM  
I ll support KingVolcanas assertions... Jamie s very cool, second only to Alton in the FoodTV pantheon, but Emeril and Rachel Wray both must be stopped. Emeril=cooking for morons, Rachel=cooking for Oprah watching female morons.
2003-07-15 10:17:13 AM  
KingVolcano : That's right. Why stop at Emeril? Rachel is just as friggin' evil as he is.
2003-07-15 10:18:35 AM  
in heaven...

All the cooks are French
All of the mechanics are German
All the administrators are Swiss
All the lovers are Italian
All the police are British

in hell...

The cooks are British
The mechanics are French
The lovers are Swiss
The administratiors are Italian
And the police are German
2003-07-15 10:21:42 AM  
"although it fails to mention whether it should be followed with a sweet tiramasu and a glass of Amaretto.

The word is "tiramisu". Do they not have spell checkers at BBC News?

Twinkie Tiramisu Recipe
2003-07-15 10:22:41 AM  
Hey now, don't be messin' with the Oliver...

Generally do-able recipes and he is really enthusiastic about what he does. Also helped a load of no-hopers to open a restaurant. Has that show made it to the States yet?
2003-07-15 10:26:14 AM  

I am familiar with Ainsley. I believe he had a short-lived talk show in the US for awhile (#4,563, I believe). ;-) I hear you, though, about the "celebrity chefs"....it's like, just shut the fark up and cook, dammit!
2003-07-15 10:27:06 AM  
People hate Jamie Oliver because he's a fat tounged mockney wanker who has whored himself out all over UK TV screens.

Bring back pissed up chef Keith Floyd at least he was good to laugh at.


Don't care who invented lasagne, it tastes good.
2003-07-15 10:27:19 AM  
Yes Alton Brown and Mario Batali are actually much more talented than friggin EMERIL..... BAM......I'll bam his stupid ass, those brain dead coma patients he has on his show would clap if he added garlic to creme brulee.
2003-07-15 10:27:35 AM  
schmawy lol

Alton is supreme on Food Network. Second is so far behind it's tough to tell who it actually is. Mario would probably get my vote. Dead last is Emeril, just edging out Bobby Flay.
2003-07-15 10:29:25 AM  
Ok, back on subject just one second here. Lasagne isn't lasagne without a tomato based sauce. You don't have to use meat (as vegitarian lasagne demonstrates) but come on, the layers of pasta and tomato are essential. Tomatoes in the 14th century were still thought to be poisonous, as part of the nightshade family or something. It's pretty clear that the lasagne that might be in British records is a far cry from the modern version which is so popular.

There are plenty of casserole style dishes that the English make and can claim to have invented, but the Italian guy in the article is dead on about this one.
2003-07-15 10:29:48 AM  
*Cough* Bollocks *Cough*

Well then the Eskimos invented ice-cream. Its got everything except for the cream, the cone (or stick), the flavouring, the gelatin... etc.

Jamie Oliver needs a solid good kicking, by the way. Right in the nut area (I doubt he has any testicles to actually hurt, but its the thought that counts).
2003-07-15 10:32:38 AM  
Ainsley Harriet cartoon:
2003-07-15 10:34:25 AM  
Asshat Jamie Oliver still thinks it's "pukka"

Interestingly, when I submitted that headline, it didn't include that second sentence...
2003-07-15 10:37:13 AM  
Jamie Oliver has a fat tongue. For those who haven't come across the term "mockney" it refers to middle class young men who ape the accent of a south London criminal in order to appear cool - it's an equivalent of "attractive and successful Caucasian-American".
2003-07-15 10:38:28 AM  
Jamie is good. Emril is a moron. But no one, I mean no one, tops the IRON CHEF for entertainment value.
2003-07-15 10:39:09 AM  
Who is that british lady with the huge boobies that does a cooking show? She films it in her house, takes her kid to school, throws dinner parties, and eats in the middle of the night. She is like Martha Stewart, except I want to have sex with her.
2003-07-15 10:39:16 AM  
no no no
bobby flay is the worst!
2003-07-15 10:41:42 AM  
I think Bobby Flay is leading an "alternative" lifestyle.
2003-07-15 10:43:47 AM  
In other words, he's "smoking some meat".
2003-07-15 10:43:59 AM  
bampf: have you ever tried any of emeril's recipes? they're totally ass. they're right up there with martha stewart for plain just being pulled out of someone's rectum. they absolutley don't work.

and don't even get me started whenever he tries to do anything asian. it never works. ever. my poor girlfriend had to deal with me screaming at the TV when he made... er... mauled crab rangoon. he's a total buttpipe.

i love watching anthony bourdain on a cook's tour. and his books are funny as hell, too. very much recommended and worth the read.

now if you'll excuse me, me and my big bowl recipe book need some private time.
2003-07-15 10:47:01 AM  
BTW, here is the recipe!


it sounds delicious... :-\
2003-07-15 10:47:29 AM  
jay_vee ... i had a look at your bio . my all time fave ( so far ) . your a funny guy !!

/all though , i don't understand the whole optical illusion thingy . but i believe and that's what counts ;)
2003-07-15 10:47:53 AM  
RandyJohnson: that'd be Nigella Lawson. I'd totally set myself on fire for her. She's on the style network, though.
2003-07-15 10:48:22 AM  
randyjohnson: nigella lawson. she's the world's leading milf. yum

and i don't think that any country that enjoys baked beans on toast should claim credit for something as good as lasagna.
2003-07-15 10:49:54 AM  
I'll bam his stupid ass, those brain dead coma patients he has on his show would clap if he added garlic to creme brulee.

What the hell is up with all that "Wooo woo"-ing and clapping over the mere mention of the word "garlic"? These people who mindlessly applaud garlic probably don't really like it at all, but they know that they're supposed to and that's all that matters.

Somethimes I feel sorry for Emeril though. No matter what he's cooking, people expect him to say BAM! "Say BAM! God damnit! I payed good farkin' money to hear you say BAM! and farkin' A if'n you're not gonna say it biatch!"
2003-07-15 10:51:27 AM  
Thank you.

*runs off to Tivo to record nigella*
2003-07-15 10:53:20 AM  
Rachel Wray just seems so damn fake. I hate that commercial of hers about the dirty lettuce. You mean, all I have to do is rinse it off? Really? Dang. Well, screw the Culinary Institute of America, I got my four-star instruction from Rachel freakin' Wray.

September 1 is a Good Eats marathon. All-day Alton. Sweet.

And am I the only one who likes "The Best of..."?
2003-07-15 10:54:31 AM  
I'd like to add my vote to the Jamie = irritating smug git with an incredibly annoying chummy, I'm-your-mate manner.

In fact, anyone could present a cooking show using his method:

"Okay, just chop up your bits of chicken and cook it until you think it's brown enough. Chuck in loads of coriander and any vegetables you think might go with it. Add some more chinese spices - up to you what or how much - and stir fry for a while. Serve with whatever you want to serve it with."

Great recipe, James. Couldn't have worked that one out myself.
2003-07-15 10:54:32 AM  
neeky_neeky_foxth:- Thank you. It's just people generally didn't believe the illusion, so I did that to stop having the same conversation over and over again.
2003-07-15 10:57:33 AM  
Who's that one Southern chef, Tyler something? The name escapes me....anyways, he is yummy. Probably gay, too (knowing my luck), lol.
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