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(Some Guy)   Call somebody "Hon"? That's now federal trademark infringement   (explorebaltimorecounty.com) divider line
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2010-12-12 7:42:43 AM  
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It's a Hon.
 
2010-12-12 7:52:11 AM  

itsdan: It's a Hon.


I'm both impressed and disturbed that you posted almost exactly what I was going to.

/worked at Staples in the mid-90s, furniture department
//sold many a Hon file cabinet
 
2010-12-12 8:18:59 AM  
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The Money Honey™ would like a word with her
 
2010-12-12 8:51:38 AM  
Stupid biatch. The important thing isn't that she hasn't abused it (yet), it's that she has the power to do that and further to discourage people from freely using the term. You shouldn't be able to "own" a common phrase that you didn't create and has been around since long before your shiathole establishment.
 
2010-12-12 9:07:00 AM  
from comments:

I am outraged by this woman's greed !! HON belongs to Baltimore and its people !!

Denise Whiting has taken it upon herself to co-opt a local colloquialism and turn it into a mockable stereotype.


Did someone go around Baltimore making them think "hon" is only a local saying or am I missing something?
 
2010-12-12 10:08:51 AM  
"Am I going to go after everybody that uses the word 'hon'? No," she said.

Then you shouldn't trademark it! Part of having the trademark is viciously and incessantly attacking anyone that even comes close to infringing it. If it can be shown that you don't vigorously defend your trademark, you lose it.
 
2010-12-12 10:32:27 AM  
It's only infringing to use it in the same trade as her. And there's a good side: use it enough and you get to rob her of her trademark while simultaneously annoying self-righteous broads everywhere.
 
2010-12-12 12:00:42 PM  

I_Hate_Iowa: "Am I going to go after everybody that uses the word 'hon'? No," she said.

Then you shouldn't trademark it! Part of having the trademark is viciously and incessantly attacking anyone that even comes close to infringing it. If it can be shown that you don't vigorously defend your trademark, you lose it.


... provided they're using it in a commercial manner. If I say, "STFU, Hon, you have no idea what you're talking about but are simply repeating something you've heard an actual trademark attorney say," I'm not infringing and such a remark is not actionable under Lanham Act sec. 32 or 43. Accordingly, the trademark owner has no need to vigorously defend it in such a case.
 
2010-12-12 12:04:27 PM  
William Tandy, who publishes a longtime zine called "Smile, Hon, You're in Baltimore!" said the publication has been registered with the Library of Congress since 2004.

/facepalm

You "register" material under copyright with the Library of Congress. Trademarks are registered with the US Patent and Trademark Office. Believe it not, Mr. Tandy, things that are spelled and pronounced differently are frequently different!

"I've spoken with my attorney and I have no concerns regarding the good standing of the publication," Tandy said in an e-mail.

My guess is he asked his attorney if the trademark registration affects his copyright. Of course not.
 
2010-12-12 12:06:22 PM  
and you owe Drew Curtis royalties for using "NSFW"

/not me though, we're cool
 
2010-12-12 12:07:09 PM  

Barakku: You shouldn't be able to "own" a common phrase that you didn't create and has been around since long before your shiathole establishment.


Prior art doesn't exist in trademark law. There's prior usage by another commercial entity, where it has created a secondary meaning in the minds of consumers, but a user can certainly get a trademark on a phrase that they didn't create. Consider Apple Computers... Apples have been around for much longer than microprocessors.
 
2010-12-12 12:11:31 PM  
Honeywell is traded on the NYSE under HON.
 
2010-12-12 12:11:43 PM  
Apparently, Baltimore Maryland owes somebody a lot of money.
 
2010-12-12 12:12:35 PM  

itsdan: from comments:

I am outraged by this woman's greed !! HON belongs to Baltimore and its people !!

Denise Whiting has taken it upon herself to co-opt a local colloquialism and turn it into a mockable stereotype.

Did someone go around Baltimore making them think "hon" is only a local saying or am I missing something?


To the extent that it gets used around here, it is pretty unique to Baltimore. Strangers will use it when addressing each other. It's a bit strange, but endearing after awhile.
 
2010-12-12 12:13:02 PM  
stanford.edu

The Rt. Hon. David William Donald Cameron MP does not approve.
 
2010-12-12 12:14:05 PM  
Yeah, by the looks of the picture she looks like a well balanced down to earth non-AW.
 
2010-12-12 12:15:10 PM  
Sure thing, hon.
 
2010-12-12 12:15:22 PM  
"Am I going to go after everybody that uses the word 'hon'? No," she said.

Then you are going to loose your trademark.
 
2010-12-12 12:16:41 PM  
She trademarked it because she has both a restaurant and a festival that she created around it and wants to control rights to those. She also has a specific logo that's her's in that market that she has every right to protect.

And yes, she did it for financial gain. That's why it's called a TRADEmark.

By comparison, were I to host a radio show in the Twin Cities called "You Betcha!", I could trademark that when used in the style of my logo or a or in connection with a radio (and probably television) show, so if it were really popular other people couldn't make bumper stickers for my show and sell them. As much as I'd like to, I couldn't sue Sarah Palin.
 
2010-12-12 12:18:03 PM  
Thankfully, I spell it with a u......
 
2010-12-12 12:18:43 PM  

El Chode: It's only infringing to use it in the same trade as her. And there's a good side: use it enough and you get to rob her of her trademark while simultaneously annoying self-righteous broads everywhere.


This.
 
2010-12-12 12:19:24 PM  

LeroyBourne: Yeah, by the looks of the picture she looks like a well balanced down to earth non-AW.


It's the neighborhood. Hampden is very... eclectic. Stuck in the 60s, kitchy, etc. That pic is likely from HonFest, where people intentionally dress with beehive hairdo.

Here's what they do for xmas.

http://www.google.com/images?q=34th+street+christmas+lights&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UT F -8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1086&bih=634
 
2010-12-12 12:22:28 PM  

itsfullofstars: "Am I going to go after everybody that uses the word 'hon'? No," she said.

Then you are going to loose your trademark.


I think everyone should take legal advice from a person who confuses homonyms.
 
2010-12-12 12:25:29 PM  
She has taken steps to protect the name of her business, limit the use of that name by others and ensure it remains unique?

Man, what a greedy c*nt. I hate her.
 
2010-12-12 12:27:25 PM  
Hon litigated first
 
2010-12-12 12:27:49 PM  
that's hot.
 
2010-12-12 12:28:43 PM  
Cafe Hon owner defends herself against criticism that she trademarked the word 'hon' for financial gain

......Why else would you trademark something?
 
2010-12-12 12:30:14 PM  
This is as bad as when the Federal government made all those Irish people change their names, after the McDonald's Corporation registered their trademark.
 
2010-12-12 12:31:05 PM  
I wonder what Atilla would have thought about all this.
 
2010-12-12 12:31:19 PM  
Submitter is stupid. You would have to use the term in a directly competitive commercial way to violate the infringement.

I could start a deodorant company named "Hon" if I wanted to, because it isn't a competing business with the articles subject. They would have to prove that I am damaging their brand.
 
2010-12-12 12:31:51 PM  

Hypothetical Imperative: She has taken steps to protect the name of her business, limit the use of that name by others and ensure it remains unique?

Man, what a greedy c*nt. I hate her.


She runs a diner that sells t-shirts. She's not protecting that. She has managed to get trademark protection for "napkins, note cards, stationery, calendars and pens". The city helps fund her "HON Fest" because it's a word that predates the restaurant, predates her even arriving in Baltimore. She is even making the state transportation authority license use of the word.

She found something popular, made it more popular and now she thinks it's hers to make money off of. That's not right.
 
2010-12-12 12:33:12 PM  
Did anyone else look at that pic and think to themselves, "Why would they include a screenshot from Hairspray in this article?"
 
2010-12-12 12:33:24 PM  
That's just Hon Being Hon.
 
2010-12-12 12:36:27 PM  
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2010-12-12 12:37:51 PM  
What a load of rebels.
 
2010-12-12 12:43:59 PM  
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R.I.P. Han.

 
2010-12-12 12:46:52 PM  
Someone should trademark "Denise Whiting".
 
2010-12-12 12:48:38 PM  
Seriously, what kind of asshole would try to trademark a popular expression for personal gain?

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Oh, right.
 
2010-12-12 12:54:36 PM  
 
2010-12-12 12:55:30 PM  

RodneyToady: itsdan: It's a Hon.

I'm both impressed and disturbed that you posted almost exactly what I was going to.

/worked at Staples in the mid-90s, furniture department
//sold many a Hon file cabinet


Lived in Muscatine, Iowa the headquarters of Home-O-Nize, later HON, now HNI, for far too many years.

Used to love battling with the Iowa DNR when the paint fumes from HON would gag you driving down 5th street. They said my vehicle's ventilation system was "concentrating the fumes". I said "you mean my motorcycle helmet?"

Then again, this is the same DNR that let a defunct gas station in Muscatine deal with their left-over diesel by pouring it on the ground and letting it evaporate. If that happened in California, someone would have been shot and jailed over it.
 
2010-12-12 12:57:27 PM  

wee beastie: itsdan: from comments:

I am outraged by this woman's greed !! HON belongs to Baltimore and its people !!

Denise Whiting has taken it upon herself to co-opt a local colloquialism and turn it into a mockable stereotype.

Did someone go around Baltimore making them think "hon" is only a local saying or am I missing something?

To the extent that it gets used around here, it is pretty unique to Baltimore. Strangers will use it when addressing each other. It's a bit strange, but endearing after awhile.


I have a friend who moved from Baltimore when she was a teen, who says that to me all the time. I grew up in NY, and I hate when she says it, because it seems condescending (I know she's not trying to be, that's just how I hear it whenever anyone says it.)

I thought it was just her, not the entire city. *shudder*
 
2010-12-12 1:06:05 PM  
I can still call someone a Hun (new window) right?
 
2010-12-12 1:07:22 PM  
fark Baltimore, shiattiest place i ever lived. Mother fark that place.
 
2010-12-12 1:13:51 PM  
She's got a pretty meh bar/restaurant/cafe in a wacky part of a kind of tragic city.

Sad little queen of a sad little hill.
 
2010-12-12 1:16:26 PM  
I'm going to register "Shug" and "Darlin'."

Take that, southern waitresses!
 
2010-12-12 1:26:31 PM  
Next time you're in one of those mailing centers, look for any UPS poster, then read the fine print at the bottom of said poster.

UPS considers the color brown to be one of their trademarks.

A trademark that I happily infringe upon every morning in the smallest room in my house.
 
2010-12-12 1:28:21 PM  

itsdan: Did someone go around Baltimore making them think "hon" is only a local saying or am I missing something?


It is a local thing. Baltimorons (of which I am one) have a very distinct way of saying "Hun" / "Hon" and we use it almost all the time to both complete strangers and people we are familiar with.

It is so ubiquitous that when I started working in DC I had to reign myself in and force myself to stop saying it all the time to everyone because people NOT from or familiar with Baltimore would likely be insulted if I called them hon all the time.

It may not be a Baltimore exclusive (as Bettermatalsnake pointed out, Shug and Darlin are other common ways to address people informally)... but it certainly is so widespread there that people from Baltimore consider it their own.

/B'lieve, Hon.
 
2010-12-12 1:29:25 PM  
You guys biatch about everything don't you.
 
2010-12-12 1:35:00 PM  
FTFA: "I've done nothing wrong."

You can always tell that someone knows they're being an evil bastard when that's their defense.
 
2010-12-12 1:37:19 PM  
What an assclown. If anyone needs me, I'll be eating my EY BUN

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