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2010-11-09 11:00:41 PM  
U.S. Navy helicopters were ferrying 70,000 pounds of supplies, including the crab meat, croissants, Pop Tarts, Spam

I wasn't aware the Navy's emergency supplies appear to be whatever they could find on the shelves at the local Aldi.
 
2010-11-09 11:49:12 PM  
The latest news is that they are towing it to San Diego instead of Ensenada, so now they won't get back to dry land until Thursday. I bet the smelly, hungry passengers are thrilled having to spend an extra day on Hell Ship.

/Hell Ship. Rated R....for revolting.
 
2010-11-09 11:49:55 PM  
"This stuff does not happen," he said.

He is late in getting to bargaining stage, so no crab meat or spam for him.
 
2010-11-10 12:28:53 AM  
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2010-11-10 1:53:01 AM  
I towed you once.
 
2010-11-10 4:19:16 AM  
notmtwain: I towed you once.

here, have an internet
 
2010-11-10 5:44:32 AM  
No one was hurt and, by Tuesday, U.S. Navy helicopters were ferrying 70,000 pounds of supplies, including the crab meat, croissants, Pop Tarts, Spam and other items, to the stricken ship.


Why not ferry the passengers the f*ck off the stank ass Mexiboat instead?

Crab juice and khlav khalash on a boat full of unwashed, angry people. Yes, clearly that is the better option.
 
2010-11-10 6:13:04 AM  
Bloody vikings.
 
2010-11-10 6:19:01 AM  
i bet the casino is open for business.

i made a funny.
 
2010-11-10 6:22:30 AM  
You know which other ship was crippled on this date? (Not a Gordonroll)

FTA: "Without being there and I'm glad I'm not, I think they're probably uncomfortable," Coast Guard Capt. Tom Farris said.

I've been on one cruise, which did not involve fire in a major ship systems area, everything pretty much worked, but I was uncomfortable anyway.

/Tried to find a quote in the article to turn this into an Airplane! or Speed thread.
 
2010-11-10 6:28:20 AM  
I'm a former Splendor passenger, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

/Carnival canceled our original cruise due to H1N1

//that ship is cursed

///Carnival has gotta be losing a boat load of money because of this

////I see what I did there
 
2010-11-10 6:29:19 AM  
Unobtanium
/Tried to find a quote in the article to turn this into an Airplane! or Speed thread.


Allegedly there are 900 magicians on board, maybe you can work with that.
 
2010-11-10 6:31:52 AM  
OMFG!

The boat had problems Tuesday and they are running out of food Tuesday night because the refrigerators don't work? They don't have Pasta, Rice, potatoes, can't cook the food in the refrigerators before it spoils? Give me a break. And it's not like american passangers on a cruise ship couldn't afford to skip a meal. They also have beer.

And not air conditioning and its 62 degrees? Seriously, waddle over to the window and open it the ef up.

/rant
 
2010-11-10 6:39:59 AM  
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Warm Martinis? But that's so gauche!!
 
2010-11-10 6:40:23 AM  
beefoe
can't cook the food in the refrigerators

Cooking for ~4500 people might require a bit more energy than they have.

TFA: Bottled water and cold food were provided, the company said.
 
2010-11-10 6:40:51 AM  

Walker: The latest news is that they are towing it to San Diego instead of Ensenada, so now they won't get back to dry land until Thursday. I bet the smelly, hungry passengers are thrilled having to spend an extra day on Hell Ship.

/Hell Ship. Rated R....for revolting.


Given the choice between a day of eating cold food and taking cold showers (they have cold running water)or being kidnapped and held for ransom by a Mexican drug cartel, I'd eat cold crab on a stale croissant for an extra day.

However, 4500 people dropped off in the middle of a lawless hell hole would have been entertaining to watch. I wonder how many would have been killed, robbed, or taken hostage?

/I can no longer take pleasure in other peoples pain
//It is the only way I can feel.... anything
 
2010-11-10 6:46:24 AM  
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/Claerly I have to do everything around here.
 
2010-11-10 6:52:07 AM  

BigBooper: Walker: The latest news is that they are towing it to San Diego instead of Ensenada, so now they won't get back to dry land until Thursday. I bet the smelly, hungry passengers are thrilled having to spend an extra day on Hell Ship.

/Hell Ship. Rated R....for revolting.

Given the choice between a day of eating cold food and taking cold showers (they have cold running water)or being kidnapped and held for ransom by a Mexican drug cartel, I'd eat cold crab on a stale croissant for an extra day.

However, 4500 people dropped off in the middle of a lawless hell hole would have been entertaining to watch. I wonder how many would have been killed, raped, robbed, raped or taken hostage?

/I can no longer take pleasure in other peoples pain
//It is the only way I can feel.... anything


FTFM. can't believe I missed that. sorry, it's early

/more coffee
//Stat!!
 
2010-11-10 6:53:11 AM  
Think I'd rather be towed to San Diego. I'm guessing arranging for 90 buses to take passengers and luggage to San Diego from the Mexican port would be a nightmare.
 
2010-11-10 6:57:43 AM  
I go to sea only if I'm paid, and paid extra at that.

/Sea pay ftw.
 
2010-11-10 7:00:20 AM  
Never in a million years would I get on a cruise ship. I can't believe people actually pay money to spend time on those cramped, disease ridden sailing death traps.
 
2010-11-10 7:01:40 AM  

BigBooper: Walker: The latest news is that they are towing it to San Diego instead of Ensenada, so now they won't get back to dry land until Thursday. I bet the smelly, hungry passengers are thrilled having to spend an extra day on Hell Ship.

/Hell Ship. Rated R....for revolting.

Given the choice between a day of eating cold food and taking cold showers (they have cold running water)or being kidnapped and held for ransom by a Mexican drug cartel, I'd eat cold crab on a stale croissant for an extra day.

However, 4500 people dropped off in the middle of a lawless hell hole would have been entertaining to watch. I wonder how many would have been killed, robbed, or taken hostage?

/I can no longer take pleasure in other peoples pain
//It is the only way I can feel.... anything


Ensenada is not a "lawless hell hole". Cruise ships stop there all the time. I took a cruise that ended in Ensenada. The cruise ship had about 40 big buses lined up on the dock that drove us to the San Diego airport. I was not killed, kidnapped, or raped.

And to the person who said there was plenty of food: they can't cook it. Kind of hard to feed over 4000 people with only things that don't require refrigeration or cooking. Also people cannot just "waddle over to the window and open it the ef up" because windows don't open on a cruise ship. If you have a balcony cabin you can open your balcony door, but if you just have a window cabin they don't open. And it may be 62 outside but it gets a lot warmer than that in your airtight cabin with no air coming into it. Especially since these cabins are about the size of a walk-in closet and people stuff their whole families into them.
 
2010-11-10 7:02:52 AM  
A cruise ship for crippled people. Next thing you'll see is an Alzheimer cruise ship get lost.
 
2010-11-10 7:03:43 AM  
>U.S. Navy helicopters were ferrying 70,000 pounds of supplies, including the crab meat, croissants, Pop Tarts, Spam...>

I'll bet Bobby Flay could do something with that.
 
2010-11-10 7:04:45 AM  
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bloody vikings

 
2010-11-10 7:07:20 AM  
Ugh, all that Spam, and no working toilets.
 
2010-11-10 7:07:34 AM  

Walker: The latest news is that they are towing it to San Diego instead of Ensenada, so now they won't get back to dry land until Thursday. I bet the smelly, hungry passengers are thrilled having to spend an extra day on Hell Ship.

/Hell Ship. Rated R....for revolting.


I would rather stay aboard a day extra then be stuck in amexican bus for the day it will take to drive to the US.
 
2010-11-10 7:09:13 AM  
Redundant systems, how the fark do they work?

FTA:

Carnival Splendor

Well, the problem is obvious. You couldn't pay me to take a Carnival cruise.

Toni Sweet, of San Pedro, Calif., was frustrated when she couldn't reach her cousin, Vicky Alvarez, aboard the ship. She said she called her cell phone and did not get an answer.

Cell phones, how the fark do they work?
 
2010-11-10 7:12:34 AM  

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: No one was hurt and, by Tuesday, U.S. Navy helicopters were ferrying 70,000 pounds of supplies, including the crab meat, croissants, Pop Tarts, Spam and other items, to the stricken ship.


Why not ferry the passengers the f*ck off the stank ass Mexiboat instead?

Crab juice and khlav khalash on a boat full of unwashed, angry people. Yes, clearly that is the better option.


Not economical.

They've moved 70,000 lbs of cargo. Going with 9000 lbs slings that's 8 helo flights or so.

There's 3299 passengers. A UH-60 is supposed to be able to carry 11 combat troops, so assuming the S/MH-60s can carry the same, and lets call it 15 people since they don't have gear, that would be about 220 flights. And they would have the added fun of loading people onto a helicopter who've probably never been near one before from the deck of a ship that doesn't appear to have a proper landing pad.

So yeah, bad idea.
 
2010-11-10 7:15:35 AM  
Nobody is asking the important question.


Are they still serving booze?
 
2010-11-10 7:15:59 AM  

Gleeman: Well, the problem is obvious. You couldn't pay me to take a Carnival cruise.


Perhaps they could eat Kathie Lee Gifford!


/If you could see her now!
//god, I'm old
 
2010-11-10 7:18:50 AM  
Link (Monty Python - "I DON'T LIKE SPAM!")
 
2010-11-10 7:18:53 AM  

beefoe: They don't have Pasta, Rice, potatoes, can't cook the food in the refrigerators before it spoils?


You can't *COOK* if you don't have power. Rice, pasta, and potatoes all require that you apply heat to them in some form in order to make them reasonably edible.
 
2010-11-10 7:21:04 AM  

Spade: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: No one was hurt and, by Tuesday, U.S. Navy helicopters were ferrying 70,000 pounds of supplies, including the crab meat, croissants, Pop Tarts, Spam and other items, to the stricken ship.


Why not ferry the passengers the f*ck off the stank ass Mexiboat instead?

Crab juice and khlav khalash on a boat full of unwashed, angry people. Yes, clearly that is the better option.

Not economical.

They've moved 70,000 lbs of cargo. Going with 9000 lbs slings that's 8 helo flights or so.

There's 3299 passengers. A UH-60 is supposed to be able to carry 11 combat troops, so assuming the S/MH-60s can carry the same, and lets call it 15 people since they don't have gear, that would be about 220 flights. And they would have the added fun of loading people onto a helicopter who've probably never been near one before from the deck of a ship that doesn't appear to have a proper landing pad.

So yeah, bad idea.


Even worse idea using Seahawks (SH/MH-60). They are full of combat systems and a sonobuoy dispenser in the back, if you take the AW out of the back seat you've got his seat, two jump seats and whoever you can fit on the remaining floor space. (They better be kids or skinny adults)
 
2010-11-10 7:21:11 AM  

wickedMule: Ugh, all that Spam, and no working toilets.


All ships have working toilets. It's called "Hanging your ass over the rail and taking a dump".
 
2010-11-10 7:22:28 AM  
Serves them right for the self-indulgent wasteful expenditure of money that they could have donated to Salvation Army.
 
2010-11-10 7:26:04 AM  

Walker: Ensenada is not a "lawless hell hole". Cruise ships stop there all the time. I took a cruise that ended in Ensenada. The cruise ship had about 40 big buses lined up on the dock that drove us to the San Diego airport. I was not killed, kidnapped, or raped.


But Fox News told me that Mexico is as bad as Somalia now. I hear they eat their children and rape, rob, beat, kill, rape Americans on sight.

/insert your own border joke, I need to get my daughter ready for school
 
2010-11-10 7:29:57 AM  
It did just kinda dawned on me 100 tourist buses midweek would not be all that hard to arrange. I mean they already use them for this ship anyway?
 
2010-11-10 7:32:03 AM  
"Mr. President New Orleans is underwater. Black people are stranded without food and water on highways and the superdome. What should we do?"

"I'll put my best horse trainer lobbyiest on it"

...5 years later

"Mr. President white people are stranded on a luxury cruise ship. They have tons of non perishable food and bottled water that if they ration would last of a couple weeks. What should we do?"

Send in the cavalry, the national guard, I'll get Wolf the fixer. We need to save those poor people. Oh noes, Oh NOES. Where my cape."
 
2010-11-10 7:34:22 AM  

yert: "Mr. President New Orleans is underwater. Black people are stranded without food and water on highways and the superdome. What should we do?"

"I'll put my best horse trainer lobbyiest on it"

...5 years later

"Mr. President white people are stranded on a luxury cruise ship. They have tons of non perishable food and bottled water that if they ration would last of a couple weeks. What should we do?"

Send in the cavalry, the national guard, I'll get Wolf the fixer. We need to save those poor people. Oh noes, Oh NOES. Where my cape."


A handful of C-2 and SH-60 flights is not exactly a massive rescue effort.
 
2010-11-10 7:38:01 AM  

Spade: yert: "Mr. President New Orleans is underwater. Black people are stranded without food and water on highways and the superdome. What should we do?"

"I'll put my best horse trainer lobbyiest on it"

...5 years later

"Mr. President white people are stranded on a luxury cruise ship. They have tons of non perishable food and bottled water that if they ration would last of a couple weeks. What should we do?"

Send in the cavalry, the national guard, I'll get Wolf the fixer. We need to save those poor people. Oh noes, Oh NOES. Where my cape."

A handful of C-2 and SH-60 flights is not exactly a massive rescue effort.


That's my point. NOLA should have gotten more.
 
2010-11-10 7:40:40 AM  

liam76: Walker: The latest news is that they are towing it to San Diego instead of Ensenada, so now they won't get back to dry land until Thursday. I bet the smelly, hungry passengers are thrilled having to spend an extra day on Hell Ship.

/Hell Ship. Rated R....for revolting.

I would rather stay aboard a day extra then be stuck in amexican bus for the day it will take to drive to the US.


It takes 90 minutes to get from Ensenada to San Diego, not a day. If you were trapped on that ship believe me you would want off as soon as possible. And the buses that take you from Ensenada to San Diego are very nice. They are like Greyhound buses or other big tour buses, not some stereotypical Mexican bus with chicken coops on the roof and chickens running thru it.
 
2010-11-10 7:43:04 AM  

Walker: It takes 90 minutes to get from Ensenada to San Diego, not a day.


Just looked at a map, my bad.

Walker: If you were trapped on that ship believe me you would want off as soon as possible. And the buses that take you from Ensenada to San Diego are very nice. They are like Greyhound buses or other big tour buses, not some stereotypical Mexican bus with chicken coops on the roof and chickens running thru it


I would like to think they are worried about wait time at the border crossing, but I am guessing they may want the ship in the US to fix it, or some other cost saving measure on their part.
 
2010-11-10 7:44:00 AM  
NOLA should not of ignored it's infrastructure for over two decades. Then again it did get a nice 50 billion plus cash infusion and permanently displaced most of the poor people never to return.

Wow, they not so dumb after all.
 
2010-11-10 7:44:47 AM  

yert: "Mr. President New Orleans is underwater. Black people are stranded without food and water on highways and the superdome. What should we do?"

"I'll put my best horse trainer lobbyiest on it"

...5 years later

"Mr. President white people are stranded on a luxury cruise ship. They have tons of non perishable food and bottled water that if they ration would last of a couple weeks. What should we do?"

Send in the cavalry, the national guard, I'll get Wolf the fixer. We need to save those poor people. Oh noes, Oh NOES. Where my cape."


Errrmm, that's a lot of whargrrrbl, considering that the federal government pre-positioned ships and many tons of supplies in advance of Katrina's landfall.
 
2010-11-10 7:45:18 AM  
Which is more or less why I won't set foot on a cruise ship. They are undermanned and under-prepared.

Also, having been in the Navy, we took care of our own goddamn problems. This whole "hey man, we just had a fire, gotta get a tow" thing confuses me. One of my ships had been welded to the pier for years. On our first trial underway the thing went dead in the water.

It took an all-nighter, but we had her up and running by dawn.
 
2010-11-10 7:48:11 AM  
Haha bunch of farking crybabies on there
 
2010-11-10 7:52:59 AM  

yert:

That's my point. NOLA should have gotten more.


They *DID* get more. The media organizations in the aftermath of the hurricane tended to exaggerate and/or make up stories, like the making the conditions at the Superdome, which were bad enough, sound like they were much worse than they actually were, or irresponsibly reporting on rumored shootings which hadn't actually occurred, but that reporting delayed relief until "adequate" security could be arranged, security which was largely unnecessary.
 
2010-11-10 7:54:05 AM  

powhound: Which is more or less why I won't set foot on a cruise ship. They are undermanned and under-prepared.

Also, having been in the Navy, we took care of our own goddamn problems. This whole "hey man, we just had a fire, gotta get a tow" thing confuses me. One of my ships had been welded to the pier for years. On our first trial underway the thing went dead in the water.

It took an all-nighter, but we had her up and running by dawn.


CSB, see you at the gym in 26 minutes.
 
2010-11-10 7:54:21 AM  

powhound: Which is more or less why I won't set foot on a cruise ship. They are undermanned and under-prepared.

Also, having been in the Navy, we took care of our own goddamn problems. This whole "hey man, we just had a fire, gotta get a tow" thing confuses me. One of my ships had been welded to the pier for years. On our first trial underway the thing went dead in the water.

It took an all-nighter, but we had her up and running by dawn.


Better tell Carnival to get all bootstrappy then, huh?
 
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