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2010-10-20 10:58:11 AM  
Anyone who works at an airport will tell you the same thing. It's a joke.

/was badged at 6 airports
// checked baggage 'screening' is even more of a joke
 
2010-10-20 11:20:07 AM  
While I agree with the pilot that TSA is a joke, there is no reason for the airline not to shiatcan him.
 
2010-10-20 11:43:08 AM  
He's the farking PILOT, he can crash the plane if he wants... I see no reason to screen them.
 
2010-10-20 11:50:48 AM  

z0rgatr0n: He's the farking PILOT, he can crash the plane if he wants... I see no reason to screen them.


This
 
2010-10-20 12:14:27 PM  
Yeah, security theater.
 
2010-10-20 12:31:12 PM  
Meh... another uninfromed liberal who thinks he deserves special treatment just because he's got some fancy job. He's a farking idiot. The TSA has been incredibly effective. The facts speak for themselves.

Number of airliners flown into skyscrapers pre-TSA: 2
Number of airliners flown into skyscrapers post-TSA: 0
 
2010-10-20 12:44:17 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Meh... another uninfromed liberal who thinks he deserves special treatment just because he's got some fancy job. He's a farking idiot. The TSA has been incredibly effective. The facts speak for themselves.

Number of airliners flown into skyscrapers pre-TSA: 2
Number of airliners flown into skyscrapers post-TSA: 0


2/10
You lost us at uninfromed
 
2010-10-20 12:55:58 PM  
It. Will. Never. Happen. Again.

Hell, we've already had at least one "heart attack" after a mass beat-down when someone started acting suspicious. The TSA has done nothing but drive airlines further into the crapper. The helluvit is that the airlines initially didn't push back on things like ID requirements, as it let them look innocent while the secondary market in tickets was destroyed. Now no one's flying and they're hurting.

My latest issue is the whole increase in "baggage screening" nonsense. I have to hand over my bag. To be "screened" outside of my line of sight. Unlocked. After which baggage handlers will be left alone with it. And there have been proven cases of drug smuggling through passengers' bags. Then I get my bag back... whilst surrounded by drug-sniffing dogs. I'm not ok with this. The last time I flew, all my external pockets (which I always leave empty) were unzipped. And there was a new, not-my-brand ziplock bag in one... fortunately, it was empty, but WTF? And what if it wasn't empty? No matter how loudly you scream, "it's not mine!", you're going to PMITA camp. Obviously, I wouldn't check a bag, but I can't bring my 1.75 (aka "a night's supply") of vodak through security. So I have no choice. Gah. Meanwhile, the rich and the policymakers just fly private and have no concept of what the rest of the world has to deal with.

The best thing we could have done after 9/11 would have been handing the pilots a portapotty and requiring locked cockpit doors and call it a day.
 
2010-10-20 12:58:04 PM  
What would happen if everyone refused to be screened? I mean EVERYONE.
 
2010-10-20 1:00:28 PM  

SFSailor: So I have no choice. Gah. Meanwhile, the rich and the policymakers just fly private and have no concept of what the rest of the world has to deal with.


If you have a firearm in your luggage you have to lock it. Nobody, not even the TSA, is permitted to unlock it.

If you don't want to actually own or transport a real firearm a flare gun will work to.
 
2010-10-20 1:06:56 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Meh... another uninfromed liberal who thinks he deserves special treatment just because he's got some fancy job. He's a farking idiot. The TSA has been incredibly effective. The facts speak for themselves.

Number of airliners flown into skyscrapers pre-TSA: 2
Number of airliners flown into skyscrapers post-TSA: 0


I have a rock that keeps tigers away. You don't see any tigers around do you? Well obviously the rock works. I'd love to sell it to you for three easy payments of $99.99. Cash only please.

/Oh, you were trolling, never mind then.
 
2010-10-20 1:11:36 PM  

Talon: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Meh... another uninfromed liberal who thinks he deserves special treatment just because he's got some fancy job. He's a farking idiot. The TSA has been incredibly effective. The facts speak for themselves.

Number of airliners flown into skyscrapers pre-TSA: 2
Number of airliners flown into skyscrapers post-TSA: 0

I have a rock that keeps tigers away. You don't see any tigers around do you? Well obviously the rock works. I'd love to sell it to you for three easy payments of $99.99. Cash only please.

/Oh, you were trolling, never mind then.


I have some gold that I would be willing to trade you.
 
2010-10-20 1:19:51 PM  
What is the f*cking point of having a pilot even go thru a metal detector, much less being groped and having a virtual strip search? They fly the plane. Are they going to pull a gun on themselves and force themselves to fly a plane into a building? They can do the same thing without a gun. They can get on the plane naked and still fly it into a building, they are the f*cking pilot!
 
2010-10-20 1:28:35 PM  
More people need to speak up about this.

If the GOP were really serious about reducing the size of the government, they'd be screaming to shi*tcan the most inefficient, useless bureaucracy on the federal payroll: The TSA.

...

Holy crap, I just had an idea. I'm going to start trolling teabagger forums and salting this idea among them. Let's get that rage directed somewhere useful.
 
2010-10-20 1:50:59 PM  

Calmamity: More people need to speak up about this.

If the GOP were really serious about reducing the size of the government, they'd be screaming to shi*tcan the most inefficient, useless bureaucracy on the federal payroll: The TSA.

...

Holy crap, I just had an idea. I'm going to start trolling teabagger forums and salting this idea among them. Let's get that rage directed somewhere useful.


I wouldn't count on the teabaggers to support something so reasonable.

Besides, it's not bloated and useless if it makes them feel safer from Islamoterrorists.
 
2010-10-20 1:59:14 PM  
Pilot promptly placed on No-Fly list.
 
2010-10-20 2:00:35 PM  
I've accidentally carried a knife in my carry-on twice without being noticed since 9-11.

Been stopped several times in the scanner for having a pair of glasses in my pocket.
 
2010-10-20 2:00:53 PM  
I went through screening the other day and forgot to remove my bag of toothpaste and deodorant. The TSA agents scanning the bag didn't catch it either.

/felt really safe
 
2010-10-20 2:02:12 PM  
They must be accomplishing something; they look so busy.
 
2010-10-20 2:03:34 PM  
z0rgatr0n: He's the farking PILOT, he can crash the plane if he wants... I see no reason to screen them.

Dear Moran: Please google Fedex Flight 705.
 
2010-10-20 2:03:48 PM  
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But who will stop the zombie terrorists?
 
2010-10-20 2:04:42 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Meh... another uninfromed liberal who thinks he deserves special treatment just because he's got some fancy job. He's a farking idiot. The TSA has been incredibly effective. The facts speak for themselves.

Number of airliners flown into skyscrapers pre-TSA: 2
Number of airliners flown into skyscrapers post-TSA: 0


Number of tubes of toothpaste used to hijack airplanes ever: 0
 
2010-10-20 2:05:38 PM  

jbuist: SFSailor: So I have no choice. Gah. Meanwhile, the rich and the policymakers just fly private and have no concept of what the rest of the world has to deal with.

If you have a firearm in your luggage you have to lock it. Nobody, not even the TSA, is permitted to unlock it.

If you don't want to actually own or transport a real firearm a flare gun will work to.


And if your luggage luggage gets misplaced, the airline has HUGE headaches to deal with from the BATF (stealing a firearm is a felony), so this is also the best way to ensure your checked luggage will arrive on time, ever time.
 
2010-10-20 2:05:51 PM  

z0rgatr0n: He's the farking PILOT, he can crash the plane if he wants... I see no reason to screen them.

This and this and little more of THIS.
 
2010-10-20 2:06:00 PM  
This man is a hero. He should be a US Senator, not an airline pilot.
 
2010-10-20 2:06:01 PM  

SFSailor: It. Will. Never. Happen. Again.

Hell, we've already had at least one "heart attack" after a mass beat-down when someone started acting suspicious. (...)


Bingo. "9/11 changed everything" was an overused phrase a while back... but in this instance it's definitely true. Prior to that attack the best way to survive a hostage situation was just roll with it and keep your head down... the criminals wanted something, and something is hard to collect when you're dead.

Think there's a snowball's chance in hell a plane full of people will let three guys take over a plane for any reason in our lifetime?
 
2010-10-20 2:06:04 PM  
Last week a TSA agent in Atlanta stopped me from going through the metal detector because I had my boarding pass sticking out of my shirt pocket. She made me get the boarding pass x-rayed.
 
2010-10-20 2:06:07 PM  
Security Theater
 
2010-10-20 2:06:24 PM  
Bomb Head Mohammed: Dear Moran: Please google Fedex Flight 705.

One example. You have one example.
 
2010-10-20 2:06:27 PM  

jbuist: SFSailor: So I have no choice. Gah. Meanwhile, the rich and the policymakers just fly private and have no concept of what the rest of the world has to deal with.

If you have a firearm in your luggage you have to lock it. Nobody, not even the TSA, is permitted to unlock it.

If you don't want to actually own or transport a real firearm a flare gun will work to.


You mean until baggage handlers break your lock and steal your gun? Not like that hasn't happened before
 
2010-10-20 2:07:01 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Meh... another uninfromed liberal who thinks he deserves special treatment just because he's got some fancy job. He's a farking idiot. The TSA has been incredibly effective. The facts speak for themselves.

Number of airliners flown into skyscrapers pre-TSA: 2
Number of airliners flown into skyscrapers post-TSA: 0


Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm.
Lisa: That's spacious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, dear.
Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: Oh, how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?
[Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]
Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
[Lisa refuses at first, then takes the exchange]
-- Maybe he wants it as a pet, "Much Apu About Nothing"
 
2010-10-20 2:07:11 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Meh... another uninfromed liberal who thinks he deserves special treatment just because he's got some fancy job. He's a farking idiot. The TSA has been incredibly effective. The facts speak for themselves.

Number of airliners flown into skyscrapers pre-TSA: 2
Number of airliners flown into skyscrapers post-TSA: 0


You're assuming he's a liberal. A conservative could very well have the same opinion....in fact I know a lot of conservatives have the same opinion...sometimes they call themselves libertarians, but they are conservatives none the less.
 
2010-10-20 2:07:38 PM  
TSA is a damn joke. Americans take care of this shiat on their own now.

Because pre-9/11, the rules of the game were, "Keep quiet and most everyone is going to get off the plane alive," because the terrorists needed you alive to get their money or whatever.

Now the terrorists are going to try to kill everyone on the plane, so passengers rise up.
 
2010-10-20 2:07:56 PM  
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/oblig
 
2010-10-20 2:08:25 PM  

z0rgatr0n: He's the farking PILOT, he can crash the plane if he wants... I see no reason to screen them.


LOL now that made me laugh.
 
2010-10-20 2:09:39 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: Last week a TSA agent in Atlanta stopped me from going through the metal detector because I had my boarding pass sticking out of my shirt pocket. She made me get the boarding pass x-rayed.


The boarding pass isn't supposed to leave your hand durinx x-ray. I've been yelled at for sending it through with my shoes.
 
2010-10-20 2:09:49 PM  

DaPinto: You mean until baggage handlers break your lock and steal your gun? Not like that hasn't happened before


If a crime can happen, it will happen. But it will greatly reduce the likelihood of your luggage being tampered with. As I mentioned, this goes from being "simple" theft to a federal crime, and no one wants that headache.
 
2010-10-20 2:09:50 PM  

SpaceyCat: What would happen if everyone refused to be screened? I mean EVERYONE.


I'M MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!
 
2010-10-20 2:10:11 PM  
Oh goody, another TSA bashing thread.. Can I play to?

TSA can suck it, thats for sure. I will refuse those latest variety killing machines scanners and will not ever allow my wife or children go in one either...

They've already proven several claims for their favor as way so wrong...

"Cannot store images" - WRONG!
"Can only see fuzzy outlines" - WRONG!
"Safe to use" - WRONG! (any thing emitting that kind of radiation still has yet to be fully tested, by, you know, a competent outside agency).
"The TSA are for our protection" - BULLS^(T!

What else do I need to add here?
 
2010-10-20 2:10:58 PM  
NEW SWISS GUN IS PLASTIC! WILL BEAT METAL DETECTORS AT AIRPORT! EVERYBODY PANIC!

/Glock scare, 1986
//i hate the media and people
 
2010-10-20 2:10:59 PM  
I think that every time someone mentions the TSA, they need to be reminded of the fiasco that led to its creation. The TSA is the brain child of Tom Daschle. His famous line was "you can't professionalize if you don't federalize." In other words, if we used a private company to provide security, the employees couldn't possibly be professionals. Only government employees are professionals. His wife was a lobbyist for the airline industry, and they supported the TSA because they thought it would be cheaper than providing their own security.

So the reason we have the TSA is because of this one guy, his stupid opinion about "professionalism" and his wife the lobbyist.
 
2010-10-20 2:11:06 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: Last week a TSA agent in Atlanta stopped me from going through the metal detector because I had my boarding pass sticking out of my shirt pocket. She made me get the boarding pass x-rayed.


wow.
 
2010-10-20 2:11:30 PM  
You want to carry shiat around the world?
Go by sea. No-one checks the contents of your baggage/vehicle/pockets on sea crossings (except for revenue evasion).

//Just as many people will get killed, but without the spectacular ball of fire beloved by Hollywood.
 
2010-10-20 2:13:23 PM  

JohDHJ: DaPinto: You mean until baggage handlers break your lock and steal your gun? Not like that hasn't happened before

If a crime can happen, it will happen. But it will greatly reduce the likelihood of your luggage being tampered with. As I mentioned, this goes from being "simple" theft to a federal crime, and no one wants that headache.


once a month?
 
2010-10-20 2:13:28 PM  

Arcturus72: Oh goody, another TSA bashing thread.. Can I play to?

TSA can suck it, thats for sure. I will refuse those latest variety killing machines scanners and will not ever allow my wife or children go in one either...

They've already proven several claims for their favor as way so wrong...

"Cannot store images" - WRONG!
"Can only see fuzzy outlines" - WRONG!
"Safe to use" - WRONG! (any thing emitting that kind of radiation still has yet to be fully tested, by, you know, a competent outside agency).
"The TSA are for our protection" - BULLS^(T!

What else do I need to add here?


You forgot "Cannot transmit images" - Wrong!
 
2010-10-20 2:13:30 PM  
Pilots are screened because if they weren't the terrorists could blackmail, bribe or somehow force a pilot to carry a weapon into the terminal sterile area and hand it over to someone hijacking another flight.

What scares me is the almost total lack of screening/control of mechanics/bag handlers with acces to the planes.

TSA still sucks, tho.

/two coast to coast flights and one to England coming up in the next three weeks...
 
2010-10-20 2:13:58 PM  

Bomb Head Mohammed: z0rgatr0n: He's the farking PILOT, he can crash the plane if he wants... I see no reason to screen them.

Dear Moran: Please google Fedex Flight 705.


I had never heard of that story. Intense.
But I still stand by the original comment that if a pilot wants to take down a plane, well, he's gonna figure out a way to do it.
 
2010-10-20 2:14:08 PM  

SFSailor: Meanwhile, the rich and the policymakers just fly private


Not true. Most of the House and Senate fly commercial and go through the same security crap, although it's unlikely they have their stuff riffled. Only the few in the top ten line of succession get cushy seats (which is perfectly reasonable and started right after 9/11 - Dennis Hastert was the first Speaker to get private shuttle service).
 
2010-10-20 2:14:21 PM  

Tofu: I think that every time someone mentions the TSA, they need to be reminded of the fiasco that led to its creation. The TSA is the brain child of Tom Daschle. His famous line was "you can't professionalize if you don't federalize." In other words, if we used a private company to provide security, the employees couldn't possibly be professionals. Only government employees are professionals. His wife was a lobbyist for the airline industry, and they supported the TSA because they thought it would be cheaper than providing their own security.

So the reason we have the TSA is because of this one guy, his stupid opinion about "professionalism" and his wife the lobbyist.


You REALLY think a private company would do better? Have you ever WORKED for a large company?
 
2010-10-20 2:15:16 PM  
Sorry to say, but with how vindictive TSA staff is, if this guy ever tries to go through security again he will be "randomly selected" for the enhanced screening every single time.

I know a pilot who eventually quit his job over the same thing. He asked the TSA moron why he was being screened like this and was told, "To make sure you can't take control of the aircraft." He told them that his job involves taking control of the aircraft, they said they need to make sure he doesn't have any kind of weapon, and then he foolishly pointed out that he carries an axe immediately behind his seat.
Naturally he was pulled aside and accused of making threats, then interviewed by real police. And after that experience he was given the special screening every time until he quit.
 
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