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2010-10-06 12:32:09 PM  
Hope he makes his Saving Throw against his cellmate's Rod of Wonder.
 
2010-10-06 1:06:40 PM  
Paladins? If only the police were LG.
 
2010-10-06 1:28:57 PM  
A chaotic thief? What's that? One who doesn't have a plan? Burgles randomly?
 
2010-10-06 2:27:19 PM  

brigid_fitch: A chaotic thief? What's that? One who doesn't have a plan? Burgles randomly?


The opposite of a Lawful thief.
(well, except for the thief part)
 
2010-10-06 2:27:22 PM  
Just sounds like shadowrun to me.
 
2010-10-06 2:27:40 PM  
Where's Ogre when you need him?
 
2010-10-06 2:28:37 PM  
Wow. The RPGA really has taken a nosedive since they went to
4th edition.
 
2010-10-06 2:29:10 PM  

brigid_fitch: A chaotic thief? What's that? One who doesn't have a plan? Burgles randomly?


If I remember my AD&D correctly all thieves had to be Chaotic Alignment instead of Lawful or Neutral. Thieves do not believe societies rules apply to them.
 
2010-10-06 2:30:14 PM  
I'm sure he'll love it when he meets his Dungeon-Master.
 
2010-10-06 2:30:57 PM  
Eh... Well Should more likely be Lvl. 6 glocks, or something like that, particularly if those Paladins are squaring off against a Lvl. 7. In 4e, that'd be a +2 bonus. Or an IDK what after the restructuring of magic items.
 
2010-10-06 2:31:09 PM  
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2010-10-06 2:31:23 PM  
Subby obviously doesn't play D&D.

//ohhhgodmynerdisshowing!
 
2010-10-06 2:32:00 PM  

kibbled: brigid_fitch: A chaotic thief? What's that? One who doesn't have a plan? Burgles randomly?

If I remember my AD&D correctly all thieves had to be Chaotic Alignment instead of Lawful or Neutral. Thieves do not believe societies rules apply to them.


But if he's putting levels on weapons, that's 4e, unless I'm forgetting something.
 
2010-10-06 2:32:41 PM  
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2010-10-06 2:34:54 PM  

kibbled: brigid_fitch: A chaotic thief? What's that? One who doesn't have a plan? Burgles randomly?

If I remember my AD&D correctly all thieves had to be Chaotic Alignment instead of Lawful or Neutral. Thieves do not believe societies rules apply to them.


In 2nd Edition AD&D, the generic thief class could be any alignment except Lawful-Good. If you went with the Players' Option books, there were sub-types (like Assassin, Spy, etc) with different abilities and alignment restrictions.

/3.5 Simplified rules are my favorite
//Total RPG nerd
 
2010-10-06 2:34:55 PM  
did they make him roll d20 to find out how many times he'd be tased?
 
2010-10-06 2:35:04 PM  
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2010-10-06 2:35:51 PM  

kibbled: brigid_fitch: A chaotic thief? What's that? One who doesn't have a plan? Burgles randomly?

If I remember my AD&D correctly all thieves had to be Chaotic Alignment instead of Lawful or Neutral. Thieves do not believe societies rules apply to them.


Thieves had to be non-lawful, as far as I recall. No LG or LN, NG rare, CG, CN, CE, NE, and N for sure...LE, I forget.

/For 75 cents you can purchase this charming Hamburglar adventure. Someone has filled out the puzzle. The answer is "fries".
 
2010-10-06 2:37:11 PM  
The Glock of Justice is consistent with D20 Modern. But a "thief?" Not a class in the D20 Modern core rules. Really, I'd expect a low level holdup man to be more of a "Tough Ordinary," or maybe a "Strong Ordinary." Paladins, I think can be found in the Urban Arcana world, but I doubt the police are really paladins. They're probably some combination of Tough/Strong too.

/geekout complete
 
2010-10-06 2:39:43 PM  
THAC0
 
2010-10-06 2:39:46 PM  

NeoKhan: brigid_fitch: A chaotic thief? What's that? One who doesn't have a plan? Burgles randomly?

The opposite of a Lawful thief.
(well, except for the thief part)


One of my favourite characters from a long, long, long time ago was a lawful neutral thief. He was never one for stealing stuff, or burgling abodes, or anything like that. He was however, fond of collecting bounties, venturing into trap infested hellholes crawling with undead, and "taking on the jobs that nobody wanted to do because they needed to be done" like getting justice for the peasants and the lowly folk who typically didn't have the means to afford making sure justice got done. He was best friends with a Paladin, and we were very strict role-playing sorts. The Paladin could find no wrong in my actions and my talents were most useful in our undead hunting adventures.

/Natural 17 strength on character creation.
//Buggered the dice roll and only got 14 dexterity though.
///While the Paladin could find no wrong specifically with my horrific backstabs, he did object to them for honourable reasons.
////Except that once when we were contracted to hunt down some evil child murdering necromancer, the Paladin blind folded him and pinned his arms, and invited me to shank the necromancer in the back, which caused a huge argument with the DM on what constitutes a surprise attack.
 
2010-10-06 2:39:55 PM  
I applaud subby with my +3 gauntlets of approval
 
2010-10-06 2:40:29 PM  

Loreweaver: kibbled: brigid_fitch: A chaotic thief? What's that? One who doesn't have a plan? Burgles randomly?

If I remember my AD&D correctly all thieves had to be Chaotic Alignment instead of Lawful or Neutral. Thieves do not believe societies rules apply to them.

In 2nd Edition AD&D, the generic thief class could be any alignment except Lawful-Good. If you went with the Players' Option books, there were sub-types (like Assassin, Spy, etc) with different abilities and alignment restrictions.

/3.5 Simplified rules are my favorite
//Total RPG nerd


Lawful evil would make sense, for a certain mindset. IIRC, the devils were LE types - they had definite rules that they followed, but the rules were eehhhvvvuuulll.
 
2010-10-06 2:41:55 PM  
Why didn't the rogues just stunlock the Paladins?

Oh right, Human Paladins. Farking Every Man for Himself..... free trinket.
 
2010-10-06 2:43:49 PM  
The best way to mess with geeks is to mess up the thing they are passionate about.
 
2010-10-06 2:43:52 PM  
Wtf? Level 3 Glocks of Justice? Did D&D change so much that the items themselves have levels now?

Either way, apparently someone failed their Hide In Shadows check.
 
2010-10-06 2:43:56 PM  
Too bad he wasnt wearing Boots of Escaping.
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/hot
 
2010-10-06 2:44:07 PM  
Bring back the Planescape campaigns.
 
2010-10-06 2:45:53 PM  

Loreweaver: kibbled: brigid_fitch: A chaotic thief? What's that? One who doesn't have a plan? Burgles randomly?

If I remember my AD&D correctly all thieves had to be Chaotic Alignment instead of Lawful or Neutral. Thieves do not believe societies rules apply to them.

In 2nd Edition AD&D, the generic thief class could be any alignment except Lawful-Good. If you went with the Players' Option books, there were sub-types (like Assassin, Spy, etc) with different abilities and alignment restrictions.

/3.5 Simplified rules are my favorite
//Total RPG nerd



Whoops I think I am wrong. It looks like they can be lawful.

They(Thieves) are usually not allowed to be good, and never allowed to be lawful good; the majority are evil.


The site looks like they copied directly from the Players Handbook. Careful the site is in yellow with flashing watermarks in blue. I am temporally blind because of it.
 
2010-10-06 2:46:08 PM  
The perp looks like an orc.

A very stupid orc.

/as in, "I don't know what's about to happen to me in prison" stupid
 
2010-10-06 2:46:19 PM  

Wyldfire: Wtf? Level 3 Glocks of Justice? Did D&D change so much that the items themselves have levels now?


Should've been +3 Glock of Justice.
 
2010-10-06 2:46:43 PM  
The detectives made their Gather Information check and Klug failed his Hide roll.

MCStymie: /For 75 cents you can purchase this charming Hamburglar adventure. Someone has filled out the puzzle. The answer is "fries".


???
 
2010-10-06 2:47:15 PM  
LIGHTNING BOLT!!!!
LIGHTNING BOLT!!!!
LIGHTNING BOLT!!!!

//better not be obscure
 
2010-10-06 2:49:08 PM  

Bendal: The perp looks like an orc.

A very stupid orc.

/as in, "I don't know what's about to happen to me in prison" stupid


Came here to say this. Half-orc at the very least.
 
2010-10-06 2:50:23 PM  

Loreweaver: kibbled: brigid_fitch:
/3.5 Simplified rules are my favorite
//Total RPG nerd


Have you tried Pathfinder? Some folks who like 3.5 really enjoy it. I tried it myself but had trouble getting into it. Lately I've been messing around with Mutants & Masterminds. I like the point buy system, and getting rid of classes and alignments provides a ton of flexibility.
 
2010-10-06 2:51:01 PM  

kibbled: hey(Thieves) are usually not allowed to be good, and never allowed to be lawful good; the majority are evil.


Robin Hood would be a chaotic good thief. I would argue that they're rarely evil- usually they're just chaotic neutral or even true neutral.

//Lawful Evil represent. Yeah, we're going to rape you up the ass, but you'll understand that you had it coming.
 
2010-10-06 2:51:04 PM  
No magic missile reference? I thought that was old-school obligatory.
 
2010-10-06 2:52:23 PM  

Solar Plexus!: Lately I've been messing around with Mutants & Masterminds. I like the point buy system, and getting rid of classes and alignments provides a ton of flexibility


If you like M&M, try Truth and Justice. It uses the "girlfriend-friendly" PDQ system, which requires a lot more cooperation between the GM and the players, but it's also a lot faster.

I found that T&J allowed a lot more flexibility in powers than M&M.
 
2010-10-06 2:52:46 PM  

KhamanV: Bring back the Planescape campaigns.


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Yes please.
 
2010-10-06 2:54:23 PM  

kibbled: Loreweaver: kibbled: brigid_fitch: A chaotic thief? What's that? One who doesn't have a plan? Burgles randomly?

If I remember my AD&D correctly all thieves had to be Chaotic Alignment instead of Lawful or Neutral. Thieves do not believe societies rules apply to them.

In 2nd Edition AD&D, the generic thief class could be any alignment except Lawful-Good. If you went with the Players' Option books, there were sub-types (like Assassin, Spy, etc) with different abilities and alignment restrictions.

/3.5 Simplified rules are my favorite
//Total RPG nerd


Whoops I think I am wrong. It looks like they can be lawful.

They(Thieves) are usually not allowed to be good, and never allowed to be lawful good; the majority are evil.


The site looks like they copied directly from the Players Handbook. Careful the site is in yellow with flashing watermarks in blue. I am temporally blind because of it.


When the bounty hunter class became official, (second edition maybe?) it required a lawful alignment of some type. Subset of the thief class. That meant LN or LE. Also, the Undead Hunter (thief subclass, not the Paladin or the Ranger subclass) required a lawful alignment, and was one of rare thief classes allowed to be LG. (Undead Hunters got a huge bonus for reading and casting cleric scrolls, using clerical rods, were immune to paralysis at a certain level, and became immune to fear and disease over time)

But the undead hunters made sucktacular thieves because they only got 5 points per character level to spend on thieving skills. All that time spent learning to be holy really cut into time spent learning basic thief survival skills.
 
2010-10-06 2:55:52 PM  

KhamanV: Plane


The return of Planescape would get me back into D&D. Also, a Planescape MMORPG would be awesome. I've never understood why they killed the setting.
 
2010-10-06 2:56:04 PM  
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2010-10-06 2:56:09 PM  
Pfft, d+d pussies. Adeptus Arbites wouldn't bother with an arrest.

/Blood for the blood god.
 
2010-10-06 2:58:07 PM  
Link (Pop)

/Roll the dice to see if I'm getting drunk!
 
2010-10-06 2:59:21 PM  

VonAether: KhamanV: Bring back the Planescape campaigns.

Yes please.


Good Old Games is now selling Planescape: Torment Win XP/7 compatible.
 
2010-10-06 3:03:35 PM  

kibbled: Good Old Games is now selling Planescape: Torment Win XP/7 compatible.


I am thrilled that it's newly available for people to play (particularly once the PS:T Fixpack, PS:T Unfinished Business, widescreen UI, and Tweaks mods are installed). However, I still own the original discs and have had no difficulty getting them to run. (:

Playing PS:Torment is not the same thing as getting the Planescape setting back, however.
 
2010-10-06 3:10:35 PM  
Paladin? More like Ranger or Barbarian.

/Strikers, not Defenders.
 
2010-10-06 3:14:15 PM  

Veteran of the Cola Wars: ////Except that once when we were contracted to hunt down some evil child murdering necromancer, the Paladin blind folded him and pinned his arms, and invited me to shank the necromancer in the back, which caused a huge argument with the DM on what constitutes a surprise attack.


I thought Paladins were supposed to fight fair and honorably. Blindfolding the necromancer is one of those which line is crossed things for me... like the classic question of 'Is a paladin still a paladin when killing cowering goblin children?' I don't know why your DM had an issue with the surprise attack, though. Unless the necromancer could read you and your thief buddy's minds, then the necromancer is not going to know what your paladin intends by just putting a sack over his head and pinning his arms. Maybe the necromancer would think your Paladin is a true goodie goodie.

Either way, I think it should have counted as a surprise attack from the thief. I may be wrong. Who won the argument?
 
2010-10-06 3:23:24 PM  
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2010-10-06 3:28:21 PM  
Subby failed Intelligence Check.

Magic Items do NOT have levels.
 
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