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2010-09-27 8:26:34 AM  
The answers celebrity Scientologists give are lulz-worthy: "When I interviewed Alley in 2007 and put the question to her that many believe Scientology to be a sinister brain-washing cult, she replied: "Would you ever sit with a Jew and tell them that their religion is a cult?"

Probably not, because there are many, many differences between Judaism and Scientology.

When I asked the same question of Juliette Lewis, star of the film Natural Born Killers, she replied: "Some people say women are really stupid and shouldn't have the vote."

Is she trying to make a point here? What is it?
 
2010-09-27 8:28:47 AM  
You know who else was into obscure religious beliefs?
 
2010-09-27 8:29:21 AM  
There are no sects in the Champagne room.
 
2010-09-27 8:29:41 AM  

dv-ous: You know who else was into obscure religious beliefs?


You know who else used state media organisations to disparage and demonise minority religious groups?
 
2010-09-27 8:30:07 AM  
So why are we sup[pose to hate Scientology again?
 
2010-09-27 8:30:27 AM  
I think Juliette Lewis is really stupid and shouldn't have the vote.
 
2010-09-27 8:31:16 AM  
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Wibble.
 
2010-09-27 8:33:19 AM  

MDGeist: So why are we sup[pose to hate Scientology again?


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2010-09-27 8:33:57 AM  

MDGeist: So why are we sup[pose to hate Scientology again?


Because amazingly moronic their beliefs are, and thereby they make the entire US look like a bunch of fools. Oh no beware the Alien with the really bad vibes...
 
2010-09-27 8:34:28 AM  

FarkinNortherner: dv-ous: You know who else was into obscure religious beliefs?

You know who else used state media organisations to disparage and demonise minority religious groups?


You know who else declared the opposition to be fair game (new window)?
 
2010-09-27 8:35:11 AM  

MDGeist: So why are we sup[pose to hate Scientology again?


Because they are a cult and they hurt people.
 
2010-09-27 8:38:34 AM  

MDGeist: So why are we sup[pose to hate Scientology again?


Not Christians.
 
2010-09-27 8:38:59 AM  

MDGeist: So why are we sup[pose to hate Scientology again?


Hate is such a strong word. Loathe is a better word.
 
2010-09-27 8:41:26 AM  
Scientologists = Weirdos

/That is all
 
2010-09-27 8:43:20 AM  

dv-ous: You know who else declared the opposition to be fair game (new window)?


In the face of overwhelming oppression, a hard-line stance is the only option.
 
2010-09-27 8:47:54 AM  
What? No South Park "This is What Scientologists Actually Believe" pic?

Also from the article, I'd say the author wasn't just being followed, but actually stalked. Last time I checked, stalking was illegal.
 
2010-09-27 8:53:06 AM  
I'll just leave this here.

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2010-09-27 8:56:49 AM  
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2010-09-27 8:58:22 AM  

DamnYankees: MDGeist: So why are we sup[pose to hate Scientology again?

Because they are a cult and they hurt people.


And the whole suing everyone for everything
/Though I guess that's usually cool with Britain
 
2010-09-27 9:05:08 AM  
Aren't they banned in Germany? Though if you ban Scientology I can't see any reason not to ban the worldwide kiddy-fiddling network, aka the catholic church.
 
2010-09-27 9:07:23 AM  
MDGeist: So why are we sup[pose to hate Scientology again?

Because amazingly moronic their beliefs are, and thereby they make the entire US look like a bunch of fools. Oh no beware the Alien with the really bad vibes...


I read that in the voice of Neil from The Young Ones ...
 
2010-09-27 9:13:27 AM  

Barakku: DamnYankees: MDGeist: So why are we sup[pose to hate Scientology again?

Because they are a cult and they hurt people.

And the whole suing everyone for everything
/Though I guess that's usually cool with Britain


They have many tentacles in the UK, much like in the US, where they're the only "religion" whose adherents get to claim back religious training costs in their taxes...I recall some Jewish family tried to do his to pay their kids "jew school" costs, and was told, sorry, that's for scientologists only. Heh, you might as well just hand over control of your IRS to them directly. They already run the show...
Here in the UK, they have seriously undermined the british government..when they opened their new shop (or "centre" as they call it. Whatever, we all know they're selling bullshiat) in London, they had the Chief Constable of the Met. Police do the job with the scissors...
That's both worrisome and incredibly scary.

Worse yet, if you try to talk about these scum, they use their media pundits, their c-list celebs and their creepy black-sedans to "take you down".
In the US, they use the freedom of religion to operate a corrupt criminal empire, in order to make a lot of money, all tax free, and if any politician dares to raise their head above the parapet, it is shot down through their dodgy campaign-donation rackets, their insiders in the IRS, FBI, and even CIA & NSA, and it's rumoured that they "own" a couple of senators and congressmen.
they need taken down.

I truly believe at this point the only people with sufficient gravitas to "out" their subversion of world governments are the world leaders themselves. If the Presidents of France & the USA, the Prime Ministers of Japan, the UK, Ireland and the Chancellor of Germany all held a press conference to deplore the Cult, and to decry that whilst they respected the religious beliefs of its members, the CoS organisation was an illegal money-making front that mocked the thousands who have died to defend religious freedom, and it should be destroyed, I don't think the CoS have the clout to take them all down.
They'd still try though, but I think their actions would show them to be the subversive elements...
 
2010-09-27 9:16:00 AM  
Errrr.... OK, so they believe that aliens somehow effect us, and that Thetans are our souls, etc. The religion was founded by *gasp* a writer of science fiction. People are stupid enough to fall for this shiat, they get what they deserve. It's so obviously the product of a banana oil salesman that it boggles my mind that anyone would fall for this.

Mormons believe that their founder was contacted in the middle of the night, when no one else was looking, by angels, and that they gave him a book of golden plates with a mystical language that he translated to English. The book, and the plates, mysteriously disappeared. He gained his following because, lets face it, he made it OK to fark little girls. It's so obviously the product of a banana oil salesman that it boggles my mind that anyone would fall for this.

Christians believe a bastard Jew who was nailed to a cross for saying (and here I borrow from HHGTG) that it would be really cool if people were nice to each other for a change. He did all kinds of cool magic tricks, and according to John, the ghosts of Moses and others showed up and said "Listen, everyone should follow what Christ says, and even the old testament stuff." Then, also according to John, Christ said "Don't tell anyone about this until I'm like, dead." Today people use His teachings as an excuse to murder, start wars, and generally treat each other like shiat. It's so obviously the product of a banana oil salesman that it boggles my mind that anyone would fall for this.

Do I really need to go on?
 
2010-09-27 9:17:25 AM  

unchellmatt: Do I really need to go on?


No, because you don't understand anything about cults.

Cults aren't defined by the content of their beliefs, but by the content of their actions in society. Your entire post is entirely irrelevant as to why Scientology is a cult and as to why it's different from other religions.
 
2010-09-27 9:18:17 AM  

unchellmatt: Errrr.... OK, so they believe that aliens somehow effect us, and that Thetans are our souls, etc. The religion was founded by *gasp* a writer of science fiction. People are stupid enough to fall for this shiat, they get what they deserve. It's so obviously the product of a banana oil salesman that it boggles my mind that anyone would fall for this.

Mormons believe that their founder was contacted in the middle of the night, when no one else was looking, by angels, and that they gave him a book of golden plates with a mystical language that he translated to English. The book, and the plates, mysteriously disappeared. He gained his following because, lets face it, he made it OK to fark little girls. It's so obviously the product of a banana oil salesman that it boggles my mind that anyone would fall for this.

Christians believe a bastard Jew who was nailed to a cross for saying (and here I borrow from HHGTG) that it would be really cool if people were nice to each other for a change. He did all kinds of cool magic tricks, and according to John, the ghosts of Moses and others showed up and said "Listen, everyone should follow what Christ says, and even the old testament stuff." Then, also according to John, Christ said "Don't tell anyone about this until I'm like, dead." Today people use His teachings as an excuse to murder, start wars, and generally treat each other like shiat. It's so obviously the product of a banana oil salesman that it boggles my mind that anyone would fall for this.

Do I really need to go on?


I agree, but I will point out that only one of them is a real pyramid scheme. Tithing or donations is one thing; making it impossible to "get to the next level" without ponying up cash is a very different animal indeed.

/there is no god but no god.
 
2010-09-27 9:20:23 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: /there is no god but no god.


the babelfish made god disappear in a puff of logic
 
2010-09-27 9:21:24 AM  
Funny how Scientology is viewed as a dangerous cult and yet islam is actually propped up and supported. When was the last scientology suicide bombing? When was teh last time thye hijacked a plane? Cut off a head on video? Honnor killed someone? Impose a death warant for someone leaving the cult? Hillarious, trying to cure the rash while ignoring the flesh eating disease.
 
2010-09-27 9:23:52 AM  

unchellmatt: Mormons believe that their founder was contacted in the middle of the night, when no one else was looking, by angels, and that they gave him a book of golden plates with a mystical language that he translated to English. The book, and the plates, mysteriously disappeared. He gained his following because, lets face it, he made it OK to fark little girls. It's so obviously the product of a banana oil salesman that it boggles my mind that anyone would fall for this.


Joseph Smith was called a prophet
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
He started the Mormon religion
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

He found the stones and golden plates
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
Even though nobody else ever saw them
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
 
2010-09-27 9:24:05 AM  

Joe Blowme: Funny how Scientology is viewed as a dangerous cult and yet islam is actually propped up and supported. When was the last scientology suicide bombing? When was teh last time thye hijacked a plane? Cut off a head on video? Honnor killed someone? Impose a death warant for someone leaving the cult? Hillarious, trying to cure the rash while ignoring the flesh eating disease.


How many suicide bombings have their been against civilians in the past year.

How many Mulsims are there?

You farking bigot.
 
2010-09-27 9:24:14 AM  

unchellmatt: Errrr.... OK, so they believe that aliens somehow effect us, and that Thetans are our souls, etc. The religion was founded by *gasp* a writer of science fiction. People are stupid enough to fall for this shiat, they get what they deserve. It's so obviously the product of a banana oil salesman that it boggles my mind that anyone would fall for this.

Mormons believe that their founder was contacted in the middle of the night, when no one else was looking, by angels, and that they gave him a book of golden plates with a mystical language that he translated to English. The book, and the plates, mysteriously disappeared. He gained his following because, lets face it, he made it OK to fark little girls. It's so obviously the product of a banana oil salesman that it boggles my mind that anyone would fall for this.

Christians believe a bastard Jew who was nailed to a cross for saying (and here I borrow from HHGTG) that it would be really cool if people were nice to each other for a change. He did all kinds of cool magic tricks, and according to John, the ghosts of Moses and others showed up and said "Listen, everyone should follow what Christ says, and even the old testament stuff." Then, also according to John, Christ said "Don't tell anyone about this until I'm like, dead." Today people use His teachings as an excuse to murder, start wars, and generally treat each other like shiat. It's so obviously the product of a banana oil salesman that it boggles my mind that anyone would fall for this.

Do I really need to go on?


Pretty much, but I think Scientologists are scarier than the other religions basically because they have suckered a bunch of super rich people into funding their organization and constantly buy off politicians, the media, and anyone they think will help keep their true cause secret.

I seriously think Scientologists want to take over the world and the people actually wanting to do it are hiding behind "religion" so we can't call shenanigans on them. I seriously doubt the power players involved with that organization actually believe the whole religious aspect of it. It is all just a clever ruse.

/I take my tinfoil hat in small size, thank you
 
2010-09-27 9:26:46 AM  
The only difference between a religion and a cult is time.
 
2010-09-27 9:27:48 AM  

Joe Blowme: Funny how Scientology is viewed as a dangerous cult and yet islam is actually propped up and supported. When was the last scientology suicide bombing? When was teh last time thye hijacked a plane? Cut off a head on video? Honnor killed someone? Impose a death warant for someone leaving the cult? Hillarious, trying to cure the rash while ignoring the flesh eating disease.


6/10 because I'm sure some people will bite including me, but I don't base an entire religion on the acts of a few radicals. It would be a shame if all Christians were painted under the same flag as the Westboro rejects. Plus, remember Christians have a LONG history of killing and horribly torturing people for the sake of God. He without sin...

/Stupid trolls, go back to preschool
 
2010-09-27 9:29:03 AM  

DamnYankees: Joe Blowme: Funny how Scientology is viewed as a dangerous cult and yet islam is actually propped up and supported. When was the last scientology suicide bombing? When was teh last time thye hijacked a plane? Cut off a head on video? Honnor killed someone? Impose a death warant for someone leaving the cult? Hillarious, trying to cure the rash while ignoring the flesh eating disease.

How many suicide bombings have their been against civilians in the past year.

How many Mulsims are there?

You farking bigot.


Your a retard, so you are saying there was no bombings? No muslims did it? You do realise muslims kill more muslims than anyone else? Do you live in your moms basement and not ever get out to enjoy the real world? Why do facts make me a bigot? Whne your position is too weak to withstand debate do you always throw out the bigot charge or do you sometimes play the racist card as well? Or are you trying to claim scientologist are behind it all?
 
2010-09-27 9:29:20 AM  

unchellmatt: Errrr.... OK, so they believe that aliens somehow effect us, and that Thetans are our souls, etc. The religion was founded by *gasp* a writer of science fiction. People are stupid enough to fall for this shiat, they get what they deserve. It's so obviously the product of a banana oil salesman that it boggles my mind that anyone would fall for this.

Mormons believe that their founder was contacted in the middle of the night, when no one else was looking, by angels, and that they gave him a book of golden plates with a mystical language that he translated to English. The book, and the plates, mysteriously disappeared. He gained his following because, lets face it, he made it OK to fark little girls. It's so obviously the product of a banana oil salesman that it boggles my mind that anyone would fall for this.

Christians believe a bastard Jew who was nailed to a cross for saying (and here I borrow from HHGTG) that it would be really cool if people were nice to each other for a change. He did all kinds of cool magic tricks, and according to John, the ghosts of Moses and others showed up and said "Listen, everyone should follow what Christ says, and even the old testament stuff." Then, also according to John, Christ said "Don't tell anyone about this until I'm like, dead." Today people use His teachings as an excuse to murder, start wars, and generally treat each other like shiat. It's so obviously the product of a banana oil salesman that it boggles my mind that anyone would fall for this.

Do I really need to go on?


No, that's enough sweeping generalizations for one thread.
 
2010-09-27 9:31:34 AM  
Scientology is a scam and even it's founder L. Ron Hubbard said it was just a means to make money
 
2010-09-27 9:32:40 AM  

Trance750: Scientology is a scam and even it's founder L. Ron Hubbard said it was just a means to make money


but battlefield earth was awesome!
 
2010-09-27 9:33:17 AM  

Joe Blowme: Your a retard, so you are saying there was no bombings? No muslims did it? You do realise muslims kill more muslims than anyone else? Do you live in your moms basement and not ever get out to enjoy the real world? Why do facts make me a bigot? Whne your position is too weak to withstand debate do you always throw out the bigot charge or do you sometimes play the racist card as well? Or are you trying to claim scientologist are behind it all?


Word vomit. I like it.
 
2010-09-27 9:33:54 AM  

hailin: Joe Blowme: Funny how Scientology is viewed as a dangerous cult and yet islam is actually propped up and supported. When was the last scientology suicide bombing? When was teh last time thye hijacked a plane? Cut off a head on video? Honnor killed someone? Impose a death warant for someone leaving the cult? Hillarious, trying to cure the rash while ignoring the flesh eating disease.

6/10 because I'm sure some people will bite including me, but I don't base an entire religion on the acts of a few radicals. It would be a shame if all Christians were painted under the same flag as the Westboro rejects. Plus, remember Christians have a LONG history of killing and horribly torturing people for the sake of God. He without sin...

/Stupid trolls, go back to preschool


So, are you pointing as past stupidity to justify current stupidity? FAct do not a troll make. Do you believe scientology is more dangerous than islam? Because my point is islam is more dangerous than scientology. Westboro has what 15-20 members? Dont you wish there were only 15-20 crazy muslims instead of millions of them?
 
2010-09-27 9:34:14 AM  
DamnYankees: "because you don't understand anything about cults.

Cults aren't defined by the content of their beliefs, but by the content of their actions in society. Your entire post is entirely irrelevant as to why Scientology is a cult and as to why it's different from other religions."


Actually, I do. And, as well, I don't think it's irrelevant. Nearly all major religions have "consequences" for leaving the church (i.e. going to hell for all eternity), for not abiding by their beliefs (going to hell for all eternity) and while they don't force you to tithe the way that Scientology does, they do give a strong sell and shovel bullshiat as to what sort of rewards you'll get if you DO tithe (i.e. you'll be blessed, giving 10% to the church will get $DEITY to smile upon you, etc etc). Also, nearly all state their beliefs are the ONLY TRUE beliefs. I say nearly, because so far the only religion I've found where they A) don't tell you their belief is the only belief and B) don't try to sell you on what happens in the afterlife is Buddhism. While there are some clearly fanciful stories about things the Buddha did, for the most part he'd be the only holy man I'd listen to were he alive today simply because he said "Listen, if you don't like what I'm saying, cool, go talk to someone else. Put my teachings under scrutiny, try it for yourself. Oh, and I can't tell you what happens after you're dead."

Scientology simply goes a little farther along than the other major religions, but not by much. They all penalize you for not doing what they say, they all, down to the last (and I do include Buddhism) have fanatics who will gleefully slit your throat for saying anything negative about them, and they all promise salvation. *shrug* Dunno about you, but IMO when you stop allowing shades of gray and start saying these institutions are an illness holding Humanity back, the ability to cast one group as "cult" and the others as "religions" starts to vanish.
 
2010-09-27 9:34:59 AM  

DamnYankees: Joe Blowme: Your a retard, so you are saying there was no bombings? No muslims did it? You do realise muslims kill more muslims than anyone else? Do you live in your moms basement and not ever get out to enjoy the real world? Why do facts make me a bigot? Whne your position is too weak to withstand debate do you always throw out the bigot charge or do you sometimes play the racist card as well? Or are you trying to claim scientologist are behind it all?

Word vomit. I like it.


Goes good on crackers washed down with beer.
 
2010-09-27 9:36:10 AM  
Quite a few Scientologists here I see. Leave them, they deserve our pity, not scorn. Bless.
 
2010-09-27 9:36:11 AM  

unchellmatt: Dunno about you, but IMO when you stop allowing shades of gray and start saying these institutions are an illness holding Humanity back, the ability to cast one group as "cult" and the others as "religions" starts to vanish.


This is both true and incredibly stupid.

The difference does indeed reside in the shade of gray. Congratulations for figuring that out.
 
2010-09-27 9:37:38 AM  

Joe Blowme: Goes good on crackers washed down with beer.


I'm actually drinking orange juice and eating Oreos. Still good.

The point I was making above is that 1 out of 4 people on the planet are Muslems. To try to tar them by the acts of suicide bombers is incredibly bigoted. There are literally twice as many *men* on Earth as there are Muslims. To generalize about the violent nature of 25% of humanity is stupid and bigoted.
 
2010-09-27 9:38:00 AM  
Scientology raped and killed a girl in 1991.
 
2010-09-27 9:38:46 AM  

DamnYankees: Joe Blowme: Your a retard, so you are saying there was no bombings? No muslims did it? You do realise muslims kill more muslims than anyone else? Do you live in your moms basement and not ever get out to enjoy the real world? Why do facts make me a bigot? Whne your position is too weak to withstand debate do you always throw out the bigot charge or do you sometimes play the racist card as well? Or are you trying to claim scientologist are behind it all?

Word vomit. I like it.


Just don't step in it.
 
2010-09-27 9:41:33 AM  

Joe Blowme: Funny how Scientology is viewed as a dangerous cult and yet islam is actually propped up and supported. When was the last scientology suicide bombing? When was teh last time thye hijacked a plane? Cut off a head on video? Honnor killed someone? Impose a death warant for someone leaving the cult? Hillarious, trying to cure the rash while ignoring the flesh eating disease.


Exactly. Scientologists are idiots but they are mostly harmless, followers of teh other invisible sky people cults actually kill people for not believing in the their invisible sky person. Internet rage at Scientology is baffling and usually comes from the same people who scream racist if you criticize Islam
 
2010-09-27 9:44:23 AM  
DamnYankees: "This is both true and incredibly stupid.

The difference does indeed reside in the shade of gray. Congratulations for figuring that out.
"

Thank you! I'm so very glad you approve. The thought of going through life, no no, this very day without your congratulations was almost too much for me to take.

hmm... Actually... You have good points, as does someone else above who pointed out my painting all with a broad brush, something which I find very irritating when I see it myself. Perhaps I'm a tad irritable and combative today when it comes to religion. Was re-reading about Democritus yesterday and got very petulant. My apologies to pretty much anyone, including you, for my sarcasm and great big huge brush.

I'll be removing my foot from my mouth now, and shutting up until I've had more coffee or gotten laid, whichever is the cause of the crankiness. Hopefully the coffee will do the trick, as I won't be seeing my sweety until next week.
 
2010-09-27 9:45:45 AM  

unchellmatt: Hopefully the coffee will do the trick, as I won't be seeing my sweety until next week.


I haven't seen mine for two months, and I'm not nearly as snippy as you.

farktard.
 
2010-09-27 9:46:00 AM  

MDGeist: So why are we sup[pose to hate Scientology again?



Because it's a criminal organization masquerading as a religion.
 
2010-09-27 9:46:15 AM  
Love a good sect

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