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(New York Daily News)   As part of a deal for the city to renew their cable television franchises for another 10 years, Time Warner and Cablevision have agreed to spend $10 million to construct WiFi service in parks across NYC but will limit users to   (nydailynews.com) divider line
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2010-09-14 9:57:57 PM  
will limit users to... cable customers? Property owners? Mets fans?
 
2010-09-14 10:35:49 PM  

Candygram4Mongo: will limit users to... cable customers? Property owners? Mets fans?


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2010-09-14 10:49:06 PM  
that is poop
 
2010-09-14 10:53:17 PM  
140 characters?
 
2010-09-14 10:56:10 PM  
Under the deal, which city officials announced Tuesday, users will be get WiFi in the parks for up to three 10-minute sessions per month.

Beyond that monthly minimum, the cable companies will charge 99 cents per day for continued use.


99 cents per day? This is an outrage!
 
2010-09-14 10:56:39 PM  
This is why I'm glad my city has unlimited, free municipal wifi.
 
2010-09-14 10:57:06 PM  
By the time you've figured out how to log in your time is up.
 
2010-09-14 11:00:59 PM  

arcsecond: By the time you've figured out how to log in your time is up.


Most times, I only really need 3 to 4 minutes of 'quality internet time'.
 
2010-09-14 11:05:10 PM  
That's the problem when you let Candlejack set up the netw
 
2010-09-14 11:12:35 PM  
I can't wait for my daily login to take over 1 minute due to the lack of infrastructure, so my monthly will be used up just by trying to use the service
 
2010-09-14 11:14:12 PM  
TANSTAAFL
 
2010-09-14 11:14:46 PM  

Bob_Laublaw: arcsecond: By the time you've figured out how to log in your time is up.

Most times, I only really need 3 to 4 minutes of 'quality internet time'.


Especially in the park. Gotta finish before you draw a crowd.
 
2010-09-14 11:17:34 PM  
what is this i don't even
 
2010-09-14 11:26:30 PM  
up to three 10-minute sessions per month

Awesome. I'm sure it will be blazing fast too, so you can get something done in those 10 minutes
 
2010-09-14 11:28:44 PM  

shawn82: This is why I'm glad my city has unlimited, free municipal wifi.


What a waste of money.
 
2010-09-14 11:29:40 PM  
It would sure be nice if submitters would proofread their
 
2010-09-14 11:35:28 PM  
Brilliant headline
 
2010-09-14 11:41:33 PM  

Twitch Boy: That's the problem when you let Candlejack set up the netw


I'm gonna need more cat5
 
2010-09-14 11:48:11 PM  
This is going to be hilarious when the Whitespace plan takes off.

15-20 mbps, broadcast from TV antennas. If it's completely free, life is going to be GOOD.
 
2010-09-15 12:08:01 AM  

Guntram Shatterhand: If it's completely free


Not going to happen. No chance in hell.
 
2010-09-15 12:11:49 AM  

Guntram Shatterhand: This is going to be hilarious when the Whitespace plan takes off.

15-20 mbps, broadcast from TV antennas. If it's completely free, life is going to be GOOD.


Why would it?
 
2010-09-15 12:17:59 AM  

Guntram Shatterhand: This is going to be hilarious when the Whitespace plan takes off.

15-20 mbps, broadcast from TV antennas. If it's completely free, life is going to be GOOD.


Until 5G cell service undercuts it.
 
2010-09-15 12:35:03 AM  

boxster: 140 characters?


winner
 
2010-09-15 12:37:34 AM  
Lots of people not getting the headline I feel fo
 
2010-09-15 12:39:54 AM  
If you go to the park to surf the net why even bother leaving the house?

Spending Wasting millions of dollars on wifi could be better spent giving customers better programming choices and improved service.

Not in the NYC area but this is stupid if you ask me.
 
2010-09-15 12:53:55 AM  
Very
 
2010-09-15 1:00:11 AM  

davidphogan: Guntram Shatterhand: This is going to be hilarious when the Whitespace plan takes off.

15-20 mbps, broadcast from TV antennas. If it's completely free, life is going to be GOOD.

Until 5G cell service undercuts it.


More like WiMax
 
2010-09-15 1:10:43 AM  
Let me be "that guy." I get more channels OTA (most in HD) than I have digits for free. Sports is the only problem. Whatever. Stream the games live over the internet. The same probably goes for whatever cable shows you are so in need of seeing. Did I mention this costs nothing?
 
2010-09-15 1:11:01 AM  

wrenchboy: If you go to the park to surf the net why even bother leaving the house?

Spending Wasting millions of dollars on wifi could be better spent giving customers better programming choices and improved service.

Not in the NYC area but this is stupid if you ask me.


You don't make money on bribes by offering to give away something good.

/at least the homeless can check their Facebook status on their iPhones
 
2010-09-15 1:12:33 AM  
I'm enjoying how this provision is positioned like it's part of a give-and-take, like it's a mandatory condition that the cable providers must enact in order to maintain their franchise. But the system is set up such that, in reality, it's just another ploy to generate more revenue. It's essentially just a "free trial" for an over-priced product.

I would cut off the many heads of Time-Warner Cable if I could.
 
2010-09-15 1:31:03 AM  
Hey I know how about we let any cable company set up cable systems in NYC who wants to? How could that possibly be bad?
 
2010-09-15 1:56:51 AM  
So let's get this straight - A cable duopoly are going to drop $10M on a toy WiFi service...in order to get a franchise worth $2-billion a year.

/ And they made such a fuss about Mother Theresa??
 
2010-09-15 2:31:31 AM  

Wagnerian Omnibus: I'm enjoying how this provision is positioned like it's part of a give-and-take, like it's a mandatory condition that the cable providers must enact in order to maintain their franchise. But the system is set up such that, in reality, it's just another ploy to generate more revenue. It's essentially just a "free trial" for an over-priced product.

I would cut off the many heads of Time-Warner Cable if I could.


this
 
2010-09-15 2:44:03 AM  

Wagnerian Omnibus: I'm enjoying how this provision is positioned like it's part of a give-and-take, like it's a mandatory condition that the cable providers must enact in order to maintain their franchise. But the system is set up such that, in reality, it's just another ploy to generate more revenue. It's essentially just a "free trial" for an over-priced product.


Not only that, the cable companies will have legally mandated wifi spots in these public places. There is no reason why their legally mandated signal should not drown out the signal of competitors. Even free, not-for-profit ones; no mandate, you see. So, to get a continued easement for their cable franchise, they get a hunk of airspace for free, instead of paying for a license like any other commercial operator would.
Wanna guess how suitable that wifi connection will be for watching TV shows (or even youtube) online?

It's like saying "well, you've raped one of our kids, so for punishment, you're going to have to babysit the youngest. All alone. Good sport for agreeing to it!"
 
2010-09-15 2:53:50 AM  

electronicmaji: Hey I know how about we let any cable company set up cable systems in NYC who wants to? How could that possibly be bad?


More torn up streets and traffic stoppages, clogged wiring pipes, more access holes in sidewalks, etc... Last mile competition is a pipe dream.
 
2010-09-15 4:52:31 AM  
burn e-mails+mac spoofing=unlimited internet
 
2010-09-15 6:31:16 AM  
Hey, I'd take Time Warner in a heartbeat. I had Time Warner when I went to college, now I'm in Suddenlink territory. The TV service sucks, fewer channels, screwed up DVR system, and they've just put me on 6 month suspension from the internet because they caught me downloading Peter Pan and then, a while later, Date Night. It wasn't even me downloading (those two) it was my wife.

/Say, folks, how did they know specifically what I was downloading?
 
2010-09-15 7:58:43 AM  
If Cablevision does it, it will be right. Good company, used to work for them.
 
2010-09-15 8:10:06 AM  
Typical "special" Americans. The laws of economics, and any number of others, don't apply in the US.
 
2010-09-15 8:11:54 AM  
Wrong story. Sorry.
 
2010-09-15 8:24:41 AM  
"There should be totally free wireless in the parks," said City Councilwoman Gale Brewer (D-Manhattan). As head of the Council's Technology in Government Committee, Brewer has made the fight for free WiFi one of her signature issues.

Really, free WiFi is your signature issue? How do you even think people have the right to free WiFi? You expect someone to provide it for free??


"The way people use WiFi in public spaces is not to hop on and hop off after a few minutes," Spiegel said. "Real people use it for a half hour or hours at a time, and that means the cable companies will end up charging them."

Wait...people have to PAY for things they use??? GASP! The horror!
 
2010-09-15 8:35:33 AM  
Really? There's nowhere else in NYC that people can get free Wifi? And unlimited free Wifi at that?

Hint:

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2010-09-15 8:45:01 AM  

Cyborg77: Hint:


Universal Studios?
 
2010-09-15 10:07:14 AM  
The article in amNewYork this morning also stated that unlimited park Wifi service would be available to Cablevision and Time Warner customers.

The more people who sit around in the parks with their Conspicuous Consumption Devices riding an 802.11 signal, the less congestion there will be on the GPRS bands for the rest of us. Approve.

I would like to know if the cable duopoly has anything to do with FIOS still not being available anywhere in my neighborhood, despite my building being only 1 block away from a Verizon substation.
 
2010-09-15 11:16:35 AM  
"There should be totally free wireless in the parks,"

Why?
 
2010-09-15 11:21:57 AM  
I'm at a park right now, so I'm gett
 
2010-09-15 11:32:27 AM  

zedster: burn e-mails+mac spoofing=unlimited internet


This. I would be looking forward to my unlimited free wi-fi, but don't know why I'd take my laptop to the park. If I have the time to stop by the park, I really don't want to be anywhere near the internet, I just want to relax.
 
2010-09-15 12:01:40 PM  
In other news, muggings in parks up 500% as more people lounge about with their laptops. Rick will have more at 11.
 
2010-09-15 1:10:28 PM  
More and more places are offering free wifi to get people in the door and try to sell them things. For those of us who don't get the urge to buy something every time we go outside, it's sort of nice not paying $40 per month for internet.

Thanks to wifi, I don't pay for internet, and thanks to the internet, I don't pay for television.
 
2010-09-15 2:04:15 PM  

HarlequinGuy: So let's get this straight - A cable duopoly are going to drop $10M on a toy WiFi service...that is a lead in to a pay service.... in order to get a franchise worth $2-billion a year.


Bet they get to write it off as an in-kind to the city too.
This is the best deal ever for T-W.

They get to maintain their cable contract
They become the preferred WI-FI vendor acting on behalf of the city
They get to claim at will usage for the consumer.

They get all the subscriptions from people who just say, "F-it. If I'm 'effectively' paying $30/mo. I'll just subscribe to their bundle and get 'included' city wide wifi.

The city got NOTHING out of this deal that TW would not have been interested in investing in otherwise. It looks more like a city crony somewhere found a way to get T-W as the preferred WI-FI vendor. Wait to see who decides to leave public service and join T-Ws team.
 
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