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(The New York Times)   Wikipedia to the F.B.I.: "While we appreciate your desire to revise the statute to reflect your expansive vision of it, the fact is that we must work with the actual language of the statute, not the aspirational version"   ( nytimes.com) divider line
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2010-08-03 12:22:54 PM  
Uh, shouldn't the use of the seal of the FBI fall under the same provisions that allow the Presidential seal to be used for non-commercial purposes?

It strikes me as very odd that use of the FBI seal is more restricted than the presidential seal.
 
2010-08-03 12:26:57 PM  

SphericalTime: It strikes me as very odd that use of the FBI seal is more restricted than the presidential seal.


It's because the FBI has more power than the president.

/I love the smell of tinfoil in the morning
 
2010-08-03 12:40:05 PM  
If no one can show the FBI shield, except the FBI, what good does the shield do, because no one could know what it would look like until the FBI shows them.
 
2010-08-03 12:51:54 PM  
I'm going to print out the FBI Wikipedia page, pound on a door, and flash the page. "OPEN UP, MA'AM, I'M FROM THE INTERNET!"
 
2010-08-03 12:56:07 PM  

SphericalTime: Uh, shouldn't the use of the seal of the FBI fall under the same provisions that allow the Presidential seal to be used for non-commercial purposes?

It strikes me as very odd that use of the FBI seal is more restricted than the presidential seal.


Yeah, sounds to me like a few piggies with power were looking for a reason to hassle WP, thankfully WP has a more competent legal department.

I hope this goes to court. I really do.
 
2010-08-03 12:56:07 PM  
You'd think that people in the government would have this quiet nagging voice that tells them, "People will see this as a needless violation of free speech; it might cost me my job." But it never seems to go down that way.
 
2010-08-03 12:56:42 PM  
WTF? DIAF, FBI.
 
2010-08-03 12:56:44 PM  
What, THIS seal from wikimedia?

upload.wikimedia.orgView Full Size


You'll never take me alive, coppers!
 
2010-08-03 12:56:55 PM  

Quasar: I'm going to print out the FBI Wikipedia page, pound on a door, and flash the page. "OPEN UP, MA'AM, I'M FROM THE INTERNET!"


...and we are done.
 
2010-08-03 12:57:52 PM  
Impaler:

If no one can show the FBI shield, except the FBI, what good does the shield do, because no one could know what it would look like until the FBI shows them.

Brilliant!
 
2010-08-03 12:58:34 PM  
Is it ironic that the article also shows the seal and is therefore also breaking the law according to the F.B.I.?
 
2010-08-03 12:59:45 PM  
FTFA:"Really," she added, "I have to believe the F.B.I. has better things to do than this."

It certainly doesn't seem that way.
 
2010-08-03 01:00:14 PM  

Quasar: I'm going to print out the FBI Wikipedia page, pound on a door, and flash the page. "OPEN UP, MA'AM, I'M FROM THE INTERNET!"


Go away! Baitin'!
 
2010-08-03 01:00:22 PM  
An F.B.I. spokesman, William Carter, said that such letters go out "from time to time" from the office of general counsel.

Don't want anyone to get rusty.
 
2010-08-03 01:00:50 PM  
Wow, no Latin on that seal?

What is happening to the US, I thought we put Latin on anything official like that?
 
2010-08-03 01:00:52 PM  
Weeeeelll... according to the US Copyright Office, works created by the US government are not protected by US copyright law. See page 5 of their circular. Now that's mainly referring to photographs by the military and NASA and so on, but I think an agency's logo would also count.
 
2010-08-03 01:01:12 PM  
Despite the delightful hint of fascist jackboots pounding down the door of the 1st Amendment again, there is a frisson of irony that Wikipedia is defending the the accuracy of something. It never seems to have bpothered them much before.

/Nazis versus Nerds - the fight is on
 
2010-08-03 01:01:18 PM  

Quasar: I'm going to print out the FBI Wikipedia page, pound on a door, and flash the page. "OPEN UP, MA'AM, I'M FROM THE INTERNET!"


I'd worry the consequences would never be the same, though.
 
2010-08-03 01:02:00 PM  

Quasar: I'm going to print out the FBI Wikipedia page, pound on a door, and flash the page. "OPEN UP, MA'AM, I'M FROM THE INTERNET!"


i194.photobucket.comView Full Size
 
2010-08-03 01:02:37 PM  

Straelbora: Impaler:

If no one can show the FBI shield, except the FBI, what good does the shield do, because no one could know what it would look like until the FBI shows them.

Brilliant!


That would have made a fine Monty Python skit.
 
2010-08-03 01:03:30 PM  

I'm an excellent driver: /Nazis versus Nerds - the fight is on


Good thing that Wikipedia's attorney's name is Godwin.
 
2010-08-03 01:03:41 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: What, THIS seal from wikimedia?

[fbiseal.jpg]

You'll never take me alive, coppers!


oh no you didn't... now you're in trouble. don't you know they monitors the internet for terrorists and illegal seal usage?

/bomb
//destroy the building
///tin foil hat slashies
 
2010-08-03 01:04:02 PM  
loscuatroojos.comView Full Size


By the FBI's standards, posting this is probably counterfeiting.
 
2010-08-03 01:04:56 PM  
the article Godwin'd it's self
 
2010-08-03 01:06:41 PM  
Never fear Ma'am
Im from the interwebs

image3.examiner.comView Full Size

Im only here to help.

 
2010-08-03 01:06:44 PM  
Michael Godwin, the general counsel of the Wikimedia Foundation, wrote, "we are prepared to argue our view in court." He signed off, "with all appropriate respect."

heh, guess the feebies just got godwined
 
2010-08-03 01:07:13 PM  

I'm an excellent driver: Despite the delightful hint of fascist jackboots pounding down the door of the 1st Amendment again, there is a frisson of irony that Wikipedia is defending the the accuracy of something. It never seems to have bpothered them much before.


If the only information you got about Wikipedia came from the NY Times, then yes, you might think that.
 
2010-08-03 01:07:34 PM  
FBI protection, lawyer style
 
2010-08-03 01:08:06 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: What, THIS seal from wikimedia?

You'll never take me alive, coppers!


The FBI needs to make like a circus seal if they've got nothing better to do than make bullshiat threats. It's really too bad they can't face criminal penalties for this kind of thing. Probably not even civil. :P
 
2010-08-03 01:08:43 PM  

I'm an excellent driver: Despite the delightful hint of fascist jackboots pounding down the door of the 1st Amendment again, there is a frisson of irony that Wikipedia is defending the the accuracy of something. It never seems to have bpothered them much before.


Hello, 2005. Let me get you up to date . . . .
 
2010-08-03 01:08:43 PM  

Barakku: By the FBI's standards, posting this is probably counterfeiting.


You're thinking of the Secret Service.

Rev. Skarekroe: What, THIS seal from wikimedia?

upload.wikimedia.orgView Full Size
 
2010-08-03 01:09:03 PM  
Michael Godwin, the general counsel of the Wikimedia Foundation

Godwin'd in TFA
 
2010-08-03 01:09:15 PM  

justsomefnguy: Michael Godwin, the general counsel of the Wikimedia Foundation, wrote, "we are prepared to argue our view in court." He signed off, "with all appropriate respect."

heh, guess the feebies just got godwined


These days being named Godwin is almost as bad as being named Hitler
 
2010-08-03 01:09:16 PM  
The FBI agent probably confused Wikipedia with Wikileaks, which would explain the strange animosity.
 
2010-08-03 01:09:19 PM  
images.bluebeat.comView Full Size

Now that's funny right there, no matter who you are!
 
2010-08-03 01:09:37 PM  

eeyore102: Quasar: I'm going to print out the FBI Wikipedia page, pound on a door, and flash the page. "OPEN UP, MA'AM, I'M FROM THE INTERNET!"


i285.photobucket.comView Full Size
 
2010-08-03 01:11:43 PM  

jimpoz: I'm an excellent driver: /Nazis versus Nerds - the fight is on

Good thing that Wikipedia's attorney's name is Godwin.


Even better: it's THE Godwin. As in, the guy who came up with the 'law'.

So he can pretty much Godwin any discussion he's in.
 
2010-08-03 01:12:39 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: What, THIS seal from wikimedia?

upload.wikimedia.orgView Full Size


You'll never take me alive, coppers!


In other news, Fark.com and New York Times to shortly receive notices from the FBI for violating the law.
 
2010-08-03 01:12:57 PM  

FuturePastNow: Weeeeelll... according to the US Copyright Office, works created by the US government are not protected by US copyright law. See page 5 of their circular. Now that's mainly referring to photographs by the military and NASA and so on, but I think an agency's logo would also count.


You are right. Agencies' logos, military units' shoulder patches, the flags and seals of cities, counties and states, and anything of the like are automatically pubic domain.

a.imageshack.usView Full Size


/this post has NOT been removed due to a copyright claim by the United States Department of Justice
 
2010-08-03 01:13:04 PM  
§ 701. Official badges, identification cards, other insignia

Whoever manufactures, sells, or possesses any badge, identification card, or other insignia, of the design prescribed by the head of any department or agency of the United States for use by any officer or employee thereof, or any colorable imitation thereof, or photographs, prints, or in any other manner makes or executes any engraving, photograph, print, or impression in the likeness of any such badge, identification card, or other insignia, or any colorable imitation thereof, except as authorized under regulations made pursuant to law, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.


The statute cited, bolded the pertinent parts.
/IANAL
//sounds like FBI could make them take it down unless displaying the insignia is allowed like the display of the presidential seal.

JC
 
2010-08-03 01:13:21 PM  
Regardless of the legalities, doesn't the FBI want the website that is the first-stop destination for many people attempting to find information about anything to be as accurate as possible?

/oh, wait... no. God forbid people get an accurate picture of the FBI...
 
2010-08-03 01:14:30 PM  

Barakku: By the FBI's standards, posting this is probably counterfeiting.


i789.photobucket.comView Full Size
 
2010-08-03 01:14:57 PM  

A Fark Handle: Rev. Skarekroe: What, THIS seal from wikimedia?

[fbiseal.jpg]

You'll never take me alive, coppers!

oh no you didn't... now you're in trouble. don't you know they monitors the internet for terrorists and illegal seal usage?

/bomb
//destroy the building
///tin foil hat slashies


i once tried to use a seal illegally.

/bastards have sharp teeth.
 
2010-08-03 01:15:30 PM  

Stanfan114: The FBI agent probably confused Wikipedia with Wikileaks, which would explain the strange animosity.



This.


Which makes them even more pathetic.

Yes FBI 'tards reading this thread right now, it makes you pathetic.
 
2010-08-03 01:16:35 PM  

Stanfan114: The FBI agent probably confused Wikipedia with Wikileaks, which would explain the strange animosity.


This. Confused feebs. Nothing new here.
 
2010-08-03 01:17:39 PM  
federal Boobies inspector!
 
2010-08-03 01:17:58 PM  

DeadZone: Barakku: By the FBI's standards, posting this is probably counterfeiting.

You're thinking of the Secret Service.

Rev. Skarekroe: What, THIS seal from wikimedia?

upload.wikimedia.orgView Full Size


Dear Director Sessions,
i666.photobucket.comView Full Size

Love,
The Internet
 
2010-08-03 01:18:05 PM  

h2oincfs: A Fark Handle: Rev. Skarekroe: What, THIS seal from wikimedia?

[fbiseal.jpg]

You'll never take me alive, coppers!

oh no you didn't... now you're in trouble. don't you know they monitors the internet for terrorists and illegal seal usage?

/bomb
//destroy the building
///tin foil hat slashies

i once tried to use a seal illegally.

/bastards have sharp teeth.


4.bp.blogspot.comView Full Size
 
2010-08-03 01:18:11 PM  
I can think of at least one government lawyer we can fire as part of a bid to reduce the deficit.
 
2010-08-03 01:18:18 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: What, THIS seal from wikimedia?



BWAHAHAHAHA!! Their banner says "integrity." AAAHAHAHAHA!
 
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