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2010-07-08 11:14:25 AM  

Fark it lets go bowling:

Your ignorance is astounding.


Care to debate? Of course not, you are a liberal wienie. How many times just in my lifetime have I had to listen to people crying gloom and doom about the South African Tree Frog or some other critter in danger that will end all life on Earth? And yet, we always seem to manage, huh?

I don't give a fark about sea turtles. They could dissapear for ever and nobody but turtle loving homos would even notice. Quit crying over spilled milk.
 
2010-07-08 11:17:10 AM  
testbenchdude: //Never seen a world map with US in the middle, although I'm sure they exists somewhere.

Let me introduce you to this little known web site
 
2010-07-08 11:18:38 AM  

slothMD: Fuggin Bizzy: I'm not a military man nor a student of history, but I suspect with some imagination there were other alternatives available besides "invade" and "nuke."

Quite a few.
1) Step up the conventional and incendiary bombing.

would kill even more people. You do know how many died in just the Feb 24, 1945 firebombing of Tokyo, right? More than in either atom bomb

2) Starve them out.

Kill more people, more slowly

3) Accept the surrender offers on the table.

and then we might have had to do it all over again

4) Keep doing what we were doing for a few months.


More people killed, and still no way to bring them to their knees, why?>

What we did was the most effective in saving lives, both Japanese and allies, period.
 
2010-07-08 11:20:35 AM  
Isn't it ironic that MAD is the greatest peacekeeper we could imagine?
 
2010-07-08 11:20:55 AM  

Schlock: The beeps were hell on my speakers once they started in earnest.

Also, you'd think there'd have come a point after the first couple hundred in the US where we decided we'd really learned about all we were going to from setting these off.


The trinity device was literally held together by scotch tape and was more of a proof of concept than a weapons test; the devices used against Japan were basically untested and little more than labratory devices in bomb casings. It wasn't until 1954 that the first h-bomb was tested and it's yield was significantly greater than the predictions. Basically there was a lot of trial and error in the first decade of nuclear weapon testing and a lot of the subsequent tests were to test new bomb designs, test the affects of a nuclear blast on animals-people-buildings-whatever and to try to find designs for fortifications and bunkers that would stand-up to a nuclear blast.

They weren't setting off these bombs just for the fireworks
 
2010-07-08 11:21:29 AM  
one day we dezidez...
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2010-07-08 11:22:45 AM  
I think this explains Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas. They're downwind from all that nuclear fallout.
 
2010-07-08 11:22:46 AM  

Thunderpipes: Fark it lets go bowling:

Your ignorance is astounding.

Care to debate? Of course not, you are a liberal wienie. How many times just in my lifetime have I had to listen to people crying gloom and doom about the South African Tree Frog or some other critter in danger that will end all life on Earth? And yet, we always seem to manage, huh?

I don't give a fark about sea turtles. They could dissapear for ever and nobody but turtle loving homos would even notice. Quit crying over spilled milk.


Ok so you're also saying fark the hundreds of thousands of people along the gulf coast who have lost their livelihoods. They don't matter they and their families have only been working in the fishing industry for generations but fark 'em they don't matter.
 
2010-07-08 11:23:04 AM  
5.6.3.5.4 Genetic Effects

Radiation damage to the germ cells of the reproductive organs can cause mutations that are passed on to subsequent generations. Although this is very important, it can nonetheless be overplayed. It may seem surprising, but no elevated mutation rate from radiation has ever been detected in the human population, not even in the substantial population of atomic bomb survivors and descendants. One reason for this is that humans are wild animals, that is, they have not been subjected to controlled breeding and thus have a high incidence of natural genetic variability and disorders, compared to laboratory and domestic animals. About 10% of the human population has detectable genetic disorders (most are not serious). This makes it difficult to detect additional mutations unless the rate is also high.

Two factors act to limit the effective radiation exposure for genetic effects, one for acute exposures, the other for chronic exposures. High acute exposures to the reproductive organs can cause permanent sterility, which prevents transmission of genetic effects. The cumulative effect of chronic exposure is limited by the fact that only exposures prior to reproduction count. Since most reproduction occurs before the age of 30, exposures after that age have little effect on the population.

It is estimated that the dose to reproductive tissue required to double the natural incidence of genetic disorders is 100-200 rems. The initial rate of observable disorders (the first generation) is only about 1/3 of the eventual rate once genetic equilibrium is established. Of course increases in the rate of genetic disorders (especially in a large population) is a _permanent_ alteration of the human species.
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2010-07-08 11:23:13 AM  

enad58: Isn't it ironic that MAD is the greatest peacekeeper we could imagine?


Now that IS irony. For all the handwringing, nuclear weapons have prevented Great Powers from engaging in a major war since the close of WWII. And if you think about it, that's astonishing.
 
2010-07-08 11:26:04 AM  

Thunderpipes: slothMD: Fuggin Bizzy: I'm not a military man nor a student of history, but I suspect with some imagination there were other alternatives available besides "invade" and "nuke."

Quite a few.
1) Step up the conventional and incendiary bombing.

would kill even more people. You do know how many died in just the Feb 24, 1945 firebombing of Tokyo, right? More than in either atom bomb

2) Starve them out.

Kill more people, more slowly

3) Accept the surrender offers on the table.

and then we might have had to do it all over again

4) Keep doing what we were doing for a few months.

More people killed, and still no way to bring them to their knees, why?>

What we did was the most effective in saving lives, both Japanese and allies, period.


You keep saying those options would kill more people, but just Japanese people. If you think we gave a rat's ass about Japanese lives to the extent that we would modify military strategy to protect them, you're sorely mistaken. This was the 1940s, not the 1990s - our military had not yet adopted tactics that minimized civilian lives even at the expense of our own. We carpet-bombed *FRENCH* territory, for fark's sake. Sure, we were aiming to hurt the Germans, but did it stop us from bombing the fark out of the Frenchies? Hell, no. I guarantee that not one top military planner ever started out a conversation, "I've found a way to accomplish our goals without killing as many enemy civilians..." fark, half our leaders wanted to just eradicate the Germans and Japanese and be done with it.
 
2010-07-08 11:26:13 AM  

Fark it lets go bowling: Thunderpipes: Fark it lets go bowling:

Your ignorance is astounding.

Care to debate? Of course not, you are a liberal wienie. How many times just in my lifetime have I had to listen to people crying gloom and doom about the South African Tree Frog or some other critter in danger that will end all life on Earth? And yet, we always seem to manage, huh?

I don't give a fark about sea turtles. They could dissapear for ever and nobody but turtle loving homos would even notice. Quit crying over spilled milk.

Ok so you're also saying fark the hundreds of thousands of people along the gulf coast who have lost their livelihoods. They don't matter they and their families have only been working in the fishing industry for generations but fark 'em they don't matter.


Well, sort of. Would you care so much if someone lost their job in say, Vermont? We are losing our dairy farms which are even older in many cases than Gulf industries. Are people crying about it?

They matter, just not any more than anyone else, or are they special and beter than everyone else?
 
2010-07-08 11:27:18 AM  

Fark it lets go bowling:

Ok so you're also saying fark the hundreds of thousands of people along the gulf coast who have lost their livelihoods. They don't matter they and their families have only been working in the fishing industry for generations but fark 'em they don't matter.


He's saying that white trash idiot tuff guy is his Fark troll persona and you're on the hook.
 
2010-07-08 11:27:59 AM  

Third rate whore in Toronto: If US only used that money on health care you'd be the healthiest nation on earth instead you exploded the most nukes. USA USA USA you are NUMBER ONE RA RA RA


Those nukes kept your third world crap hole sovereign too. So what is your excuse for your punchline of a healthcare system?
 
2010-07-08 11:28:15 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Nightsweat: Left off the mystery nuke in 1979 at Vela - likely a joint Israeli/South African bomb.

Came for this. Bears repeating.


Actually, it was most likely a "zoo event", not an actual nuclear detonation.

In any case, it was not unambiguously a nuclear detonation, therefore shouldn't be included until it is definitively classified as such (perhaps through the release of South African/Israeli records).
 
2010-07-08 11:28:38 AM  
Dear God, does America love blowing shiat up.
 
2010-07-08 11:28:52 AM  

Third rate whore in Toronto: If US only used that money on health care you'd be the healthiest nation on earth instead you exploded the most nukes. USA USA USA you are NUMBER ONE RA RA RA


You're nothing but a third rate whore in Toronto.
 
2010-07-08 11:30:59 AM  

canyoneer: mod3072: "So, we nuked ourselves over 1000 times. I live in the mid-west, and virtually everyone I know who has died over the years died from one form of cancer or another. I wonder if it's a coincidence?"

In the Midwest? The breadbasket of the world? I'd say all the millions of tons of pesticides and herbicides that have been splooshed all over the place are the more likely culprits.


Yeah, I suppose that doesn't help much either.
 
2010-07-08 11:31:44 AM  

Flab: testbenchdude: //Never seen a world map with US in the middle, although I'm sure they exists somewhere.

Let me introduce you to this little known web site


I'm not sure, but I think that map opens up with your home town in the middle of it no matter where on earth you live. Like it recognizes you by your IP address and starts you off with a "you are here". But, I could be wrong.
 
2010-07-08 11:31:58 AM  

howdyyall9999: Third rate whore in Toronto: If US only used that money on health care you'd be the healthiest nation on earth instead you exploded the most nukes. USA USA USA you are NUMBER ONE RA RA RA

Those nukes kept your third world crap hole sovereign too. So what is your excuse for your punchline of a healthcare system?


Its clearly because we do not pay enough taxes.
 
2010-07-08 11:33:46 AM  

PatientZero: rwfan: That is 2053 nuclear explosions and the world survived. Add to that one farktacularly irresponsible reactor accident and the world survived. Perhaps the hysteria surrounding nuclear energy is a bit overblown?

I hope you know, those 2053 explosions didn't all happen at the same time, like they would in a nuclear war...



...and most likely above ground. Quite unlike the vast majority of those on that map.

Underground nuke tests (around 75% of all blasts) were required to test the yields of newer weapons, determine the rate of degradation of the older ones, create means for detecting other nations secretly testing nukes, etc.

Everyone wringing their hands anxiously over 2000+ nuke explosions can feel free to get a grip. The last above ground explosion was 30 years ago now in China. The last time either the US or USSR popped one above ground was nearly 50 years ago (1962).

Srsly. No big deal. You want something to worry about? Consider that there are at least 11 more RBMK type reactors still operating in Russia. Yeah, same type (1950's Soviet design) as Chernobyl except now they get to run under the even less funded Russian government. They can't afford to build new ones to replace them and they need the electricity they generate even more. Just 11 or so timebombs a-ticking...
 
2010-07-08 11:34:07 AM  

slothMD: fark, half our leaders wanted to just eradicate the Germans and Japanese and be done with it.


No that was just Patton and MacArthur.
 
2010-07-08 11:35:01 AM  

kvinesknows: go ahead.. find proof that Israel has them.


Dimona/Negev Nuclear Research Center

Israel will never admit to having nukes and for good cause, but thinking Israel is going to sit there and wait for Iran to become nuclear armed is just asinine.
 
2010-07-08 11:36:22 AM  
What, no 100 Suns? For shame, Fark.

Get it - great coffee table book, and especially useful as a conversation piece. Especially when you bring a woman back home.

Actually, maybe you should hide it when doing that.

Amazon Link (new window)
 
2010-07-08 11:36:41 AM  

Nightsweat: slothMD: fark, half our leaders wanted to just eradicate the Germans and Japanese and be done with it.

No that was just Patton and MacArthur.


Tends to happen when you have seen what those men saw. Auschwitz and the Bataan Death March showed an ugly side of those people that you or I cannot even fathom.

Patton wanted to go after the Russians as well. Might have been a good idea.
 
2010-07-08 11:36:42 AM  
Wilhelm Reich in Hell?
 
2010-07-08 11:38:40 AM  

Thunderpipes:
I don't give a fark about sea turtles. They could dissapear for ever and nobody but turtle loving homos would even notice. Quit crying over spilled milk.

Well, sort of. Would you care so much if someone lost their job in say, Vermont? We are losing our dairy farms which are even older in many cases than Gulf industries. Are people crying about it?

They matter, just not any more than anyone else, or are they special and beter than everyone else?


The dairy farms are selling out because there's too much milk production to support a milk price high enough for profitability. It's basic supply and demand. If the farms are valuable as tourist bait or to maintain the "Vermont Lifestyle" the money to keep them open needs to come from somewhere else than milk.

Thanks, but my taxes are high enough. I don't need to look at cows any more than you need to look at sea turtles. The state shouldn't keep them on artificial life support.

If the farms can diversify, more power to them. Boyden's, across the river from me, switched from dairy to beef and wine and an occasional concert for the tourists. They seem to be doing okay.
 
2010-07-08 11:38:43 AM  

ATTENTION: Flab: testbenchdude: //Never seen a world map with US in the middle, although I'm sure they exists somewhere.

Let me introduce you to this little known web site

I'm not sure, but I think that map opens up with your home town in the middle of it no matter where on earth you live. Like it recognizes you by your IP address and starts you off with a "you are here". But, I could be wrong.


No, I take that back. It's actually the earth map repeated 4 times and in each one the center is exactly 0' lattitude and 0' longitude.
 
2010-07-08 11:38:44 AM  

canyoneer: there is zero threat to humans 10 generations down the road.


We're not 10 generations down the road yet, so you say there's a nonzero threat to us right now, correct? Did you just admit that?
 
2010-07-08 11:38:47 AM  

Nightsweat: slothMD: fark, half our leaders wanted to just eradicate the Germans and Japanese and be done with it.

No that was just Patton and MacArthur.


And Churchill, who thought we should keep on marching right through Germany towards Moscow.
 
2010-07-08 11:39:54 AM  

b2e44: kvinesknows: go ahead.. find proof that Israel has them.

Dimona/Negev Nuclear Research Center

Israel will never admit to having nukes and for good cause, but thinking Israel is going to sit there and wait for Iran to become nuclear armed is just asinine.


so no proof they have them then eh?


:)
 
2010-07-08 11:40:10 AM  
ATTENTION: Like it recognizes you by your IP address and starts you off with a "you are here". But, I could be wrong.

No it doesn't. It starts with the lower 48 centered on the screen. Coffeeville, KS (new window) is apparently the center of Google's Universe.

My own location is in the upper right corner of the screen.
 
2010-07-08 11:40:19 AM  
Visiting Hiroshima and its incredible Peace Park on a gorgeous spring day last year was a wonderful and deeply moving experience.

/especially the atomic bomb museum
//and the place where we ate okonomiyaki till we could barely walk
///life goes on
 
2010-07-08 11:43:16 AM  

Flab: No it doesn't. It starts with the lower 48 centered on the screen. Coffeeville, KS (new window) is apparently the center of Google's Universe.

My own location is in the upper right corner of the screen.


Yeah, but if you zoom out, the center of the actual map is 0'lat/0'lon.
 
2010-07-08 11:44:01 AM  

Mishno:

The dairy farms are selling out because there's too much milk production to support a milk price high enough for profitability. It's basic supply and demand. If the farms are valuable as tourist bait or to maintain the "Vermont Lifestyle" the money to keep them open needs to come from somewhere else than milk.

Thanks, but my taxes are high enough. I don't need to look at cows any more than you need to look at sea turtles. The state shouldn't keep them on artificial life support.

If the farms can diversify, more power to them. Boyden's, across the river from me, switched from dairy to beef and wine and an occasional concert for the tourists. They seem to be doing okay.


I agree. My argument is that disaster, market forces, anything can make a person or an entire industry or region change. I don't believe anyone deserves special protections while others who may lose jobs at no fault of their own don't.

Oil spill sucks, really sucks. Do I think everyone in the Gulf deserves handouts beyond typical unemployment? No. Same reason I don't think 9/11 victim's families should have got multi-million dollar pay offs.

Someone losing a job to an oil spill or having a family member die in a terrorist attack are not any more worthy of support than the IT guy in Pigsknuckle, Arkansas who loses his job or his loving father who drops dead from a heart attack.

Farkers typically hate anyone who receives inheritance, right? How many fishermen got their boats handed to them by their fathers? How many farmers got their land from their fathers? Isn't that evil according to Fark, and the government should seize all their assets?
 
2010-07-08 11:44:18 AM  
I was born in late 1966 with a birth defect in my left foot. Seeing the # of US detonations in 1965 and 1966 gives me pause (or paws as is nearly the case).
 
2010-07-08 11:45:09 AM  
He used yellow to represent the Chinese?

thatswacist.gif
 
2010-07-08 11:45:49 AM  

Nightsweat: No that was just Patton and MacArthur.


And Churchill and FDR.
 
2010-07-08 11:47:15 AM  

firemarth: Dear God, does America love blowing shiat up.


Indeed. Lets not forget Dresden.

The bombing of Dresden by the Royal Air Force and the United States Army Air Force between 13 February and 15 February 1945, remains one of the more controversial Allied actions of the Western European theatre of war. The inner city of Dresden was largely destroyed by 800 RAF and USAAF bombers that dropped 650,000 incendiaries and 8,000 pounds (3,600 kg) of high explosives and hundreds of 4,000 pounds (1,800 kg) bombs[13] in three waves of attacks. Early reports estimated 150,000 to 250,000 deaths but the German Dresden Historians' Commission in an official 2010 report published after five years of research concluded that there were up to 25,000 civilian casualties.[14]

Link (new window)
 
2010-07-08 11:47:15 AM  

paydayperx: Hatties


Kraftwerk is saying "Harrisburg"

Chernobyl...Harrisburg...Sellafield...Hiroshima...

/kraftnerd
 
2010-07-08 11:47:43 AM  

you have pee hands: And Churchill, who thought we should keep on marching right through Germany towards Moscow.


Hell, Churchill kinda wanted to feed arms to both the Russians and Germans so they would kill each other off.
 
2010-07-08 11:48:29 AM  

firemarth: love blo


Everybody loves blowing shiat up. America can afford to.
 
2010-07-08 11:49:15 AM  
I think that video is how John Williams made first contact with the aliens.

/comment section tl;dr, not sure if referenced
 
2010-07-08 11:50:55 AM  

Third rate whore in Toronto: If US only used that money on health care you'd be the healthiest nation on earth instead you exploded the most nukes. USA USA USA you are NUMBER ONE RA RA RA


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I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
 
2010-07-08 11:54:21 AM  
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"The release of atom power has changed everything except our way of thinking...the solution to this problem lies in the heart of mankind. If only I had known, I should have become a watchmaker."
 
2010-07-08 11:54:21 AM  

Thunderpipes: Schlock: Thunderpipes: Why I also laugh at people who think the Gulf oil spill is some world changing event. In the overall scheme of things, it is an absolute zero impact event.

Agreed, but it's not really part of human nature to think of things on a scale long beyond our own lifespans, and I don't really think you can fault people for that.

I agree. I am one, however, that thinks a full scale nuclear war would actually be very good for humanity (not so much for the people who die in it), and the Earth. Our population is growing at a rate that eventually will demand too many resources. A large nuclear war would cull that somewhat, and it would also allow more physically robust people a greater advantage so we could clean up the gene pool.

Plus...super mutants...


We don't have too many people for our resources. We just don't utilize them wisely. There is plenty of room, food, etc. It is politics, governments and good old greed that create our issues.
 
2010-07-08 11:54:31 AM  

Fuggin Bizzy: I suspect with some imagination there were other alternatives available besides "invade" and "nuke."



No. There wasn't.

Consider that the United States, at the time, was counting up around 600,000 dead between the two world wars so far that century. We didn't do any substantial fighting in our country but had still go to enjoy those casualty figures because the rest of the farkin' planet just couldn't seem to find a better hobby.

By the time the bombs were dropped we:

- had seen what the Japanese intent to defend the home islands was from the Battle of Okinawa
- were aware of the orchestrated genocide of the Nazis
- saw the coming menace of communism
- had already begun to plan the reconstruction of the planet by founding the UN and meeting at Bretton Woods to establish the postwar economic monetary and financial order

In short, for a country whose general policy prior to the 20th century was to stay out of the affairs of most of the rest of the world, we were pretty damned sick of getting pulled into two world wars and saw the clear ramifications and potential of a third one.

WW1 was bad so Wilson introduced the League of Nations idea so the rest of the planet might make like civilized folk and not war on each other once per generation. That failed.

WW2 was much worse and taking the example of WW1 and the League of Nations failure to heart, the US endeavored to end the war on a solid "stop f*cking around" message to the rest of the planet and simultaneously introduced the UN, a stable post-war economic framework and later the Marshall Plan to try and avert WW3.

Invading Japan was estimated to result in anywhere from half a million to a million Allied casualties and around 5 times that amount in Japanese military and civilian casualties. So, in the coldest calculation possible, it was decided that 200,000 casualties and an end to the war was preferable to 5-6 million casualties and an end to the war. Throw in the introduction of a weapon of such power as to truly make future leaders think hard about another world war and you have your answer.
 
2010-07-08 11:55:58 AM  

thetubameister: How is there anything left of the US Southwest?!?!?


Because, contrary to popular belief, nuclear explosions aren't hundreds of miles wide. A hurricane would leave more devistation (but less radiation).
 
2010-07-08 11:57:07 AM  
ATTENTION: Yeah, but if you zoom out, the center of the actual map is 0'lat/0'lon.

No. The center of the image moves down to the Equator, but remains at Coffeeville's longitude.
 
2010-07-08 11:57:55 AM  

Flab: testbenchdude: //Never seen a world map with US in the middle, although I'm sure they exists somewhere.

Let me introduce you to this little known web site


Google Maps's default view is of the US, I'll give you that, but that doesn't count. You'd have a valid point if it showed the rest of the world as well.
 
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