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2010-07-08 10:06:26 AM  

Thunderpipes: Pretty humbling to think that the largest man made explosion ever was only 50 megatons or so. Puny compared to a good sized volcanic eruption and absoutely dwarfed by asteroid impacts such as the Chixulub event which I believe was 150 million megatons. This is why I chuckle when people get all "we all would die from a nuclear war" crap. Pinprick would be the end result.

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I don't know if puny is the word, as the link indicates that it's 1/4 the presumed yield of Krakatoa. The thing is, we have more than 4 of them, and the effects go well beyond that of the initial blast.
 
2010-07-08 10:06:41 AM  
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Only it's Tokyo. Not a lot different to Hiroshima, is it?

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2010-07-08 10:07:26 AM  

dittybopper: Schlock: Bikini Atoll, I believe

I prefer No Bikini Atoll.


Awesome.
 
2010-07-08 10:07:34 AM  

rwfan: That is 2053 nuclear explosions and the world survived. Add to that one farktacularly irresponsible reactor accident and the world survived. Perhaps the hysteria surrounding nuclear energy is a bit overblown?


I hope you know, those 2053 explosions didn't all happen at the same time, like they would in a nuclear war...
 
2010-07-08 10:09:20 AM  

loki see loki do: I like how his world map has Japan at the center of the world.

Nationalist douchbaggery, even at a subliminal level, exists everywhere.


I think that's your own interpretation of it. To me it looked more like it was centered for the pacific ocean, since there were so many bombs tested there.
 
2010-07-08 10:09:56 AM  

rwfan: That is 2053 nuclear explosions and the world survived. Add to that one farktacularly irresponsible reactor accident and the world survived. Perhaps the hysteria surrounding nuclear energy is a bit overblown?


Nah...that's 2053 explosions over 60 years. Do that many in a day and see what happens.
 
2010-07-08 10:10:41 AM  

QU!RK1019:
Notice how the Atlantic is cut out? And how low the equator is? The map centered and cropped so as to maximize the usable screen space. Douchebag.


Just saying, it hadn't occurred to me that everyone does this. Only interesting that we all have a self-centered view of the world around us.

/sorry to sound douchebaggy
 
2010-07-08 10:10:51 AM  
I started with the volume low, and it was boring. When I realized there was a musical soundtrack, I cranked it up to 11. It got suddenly cool. Then boring again. Nevertheless, it accomplished the artist's goal: made me think about the insanity of nukes (and be bored?)...
 
2010-07-08 10:11:05 AM  
I was surprised at the number of tests conducted by the French.

Also, if you go to Mercury NV on Google Maps satellite view then go NNW, you will find the US test site craters. Someone had sent me a link to a 10 minute video of underground tests and I'll be damned if I can find it now.
 
2010-07-08 10:12:00 AM  
ihatedumbpeople: Nah...that's 2053 explosions over 60 years. Do that many in a day and see what happens.

You'd probably have to also move a couple of them from the middle of nowhere to say... cities of a few million people.
 
2010-07-08 10:12:13 AM  

ihatedumbpeople: Nah...that's 2053 explosions over 60 years. Do that many in a day and see what happens.


...and on the highest populated cities.
 
2010-07-08 10:12:29 AM  

Schlock: Thunderpipes: Pretty humbling to think that the largest man made explosion ever was only 50 megatons or so. Puny compared to a good sized volcanic eruption and absoutely dwarfed by asteroid impacts such as the Chixulub event which I believe was 150 million megatons. This is why I chuckle when people get all "we all would die from a nuclear war" crap. Pinprick would be the end result.

Tzar Bomba (new window)

I don't know if puny is the word, as the link indicates that it's 1/4 the presumed yield of Krakatoa. The thing is, we have more than 4 of them, and the effects go well beyond that of the initial blast.


Krakatoa is not a particularly large volcanic event. Have to remember we humans think in such incredibly small time fragments. It is just a matter of when a really large even occurs again. Yellowstone for instance, is really just one ginormous volcano waiting to happen. There was an eruption in what is now Russia long ago that lasted a million years or more.

We think a hurricane is a major disaster, or the Haiti earthquake? Nothing compared to what will happen eventually. We could launch every single nuke we had, and many people would die. Earth, animals, and people would recover and go on quite fine. Would not even take as long as people think.
 
2010-07-08 10:12:53 AM  
Left off the mystery nuke in 1979 at Vela - likely a joint Israeli/South African bomb.
 
2010-07-08 10:12:54 AM  

OrelupM: I'm just wondering where the people claiming "maps in america show america in the center" live. While I remember some maps like that (usually they reference something about the US), most of the maps I see have europe in the center, and the US to the right and Hawaii barely even on the map.


Yeah, most of the maps I've seen here in the US use the Pacific as the left and right edges, with North and South America on the left and the rest on the right, with the center of the map probably being somewhere in the Middle East or the Mediterranean.
 
2010-07-08 10:13:07 AM  
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/really no one thought of pong when they watched that??
 
2010-07-08 10:13:49 AM  
Dancin_In_Anson: Also, if you go to Mercury NV on Google Maps satellite view then go NNW, you will find the US test site craters.

This is the main reason for the wackos saying the Moon landings were filmed at area 51 (just a few steps north east of the NTS.
 
2010-07-08 10:13:55 AM  

tdpatriots12: Oldiron_79: Only 2 really mattered.

I'd say three had significance so far.

1) Hiroshima
2) Nagasaki
3) First Soviet weapons test (US monopoly on nuclear weapons is over)


India, Pakistan nukes are important since they are most likely to get used right now. And the Israeli nuke has all kinds of significance.
 
2010-07-08 10:13:56 AM  
FTFA:
Since (the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki), despite more than 2,000 other tests and billions of dollars having been spent on their development, no nuclear warheads have been used in anger used out of necessity.

FTFY. To imply the USA bombed Japan "out of anger" is a gross misrepresentation of history.
 
2010-07-08 10:14:08 AM  
Why I also laugh at people who think the Gulf oil spill is some world changing event. In the overall scheme of things, it is an absolute zero impact event.
 
2010-07-08 10:15:26 AM  

PatientZero: rwfan: That is 2053 nuclear explosions and the world survived. Add to that one farktacularly irresponsible reactor accident and the world survived. Perhaps the hysteria surrounding nuclear energy is a bit overblown?

I hope you know, those 2053 explosions didn't all happen at the same time, like they would in a nuclear war...


?! I tried to highlight to help with reading comprehension. Let me know if you need more help.
 
2010-07-08 10:15:43 AM  
There's an historical legend that Japan successfully tested an atomic bomb in the final days of WWII. Here's an article about it written by an American journalist.

http://www.reformation.org/atlanta-constitution.html
 
2010-07-08 10:15:57 AM  
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2010-07-08 10:16:16 AM  
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"Ah geeze, not this sh*t again."

/I didn't realize we had tested that many
//kinda interesting, yet kinda boring
 
2010-07-08 10:16:33 AM  
After seeing that I am amazed that the southwestern US isn't filled with horrible mutant freaks.
 
2010-07-08 10:17:34 AM  

Ninja Wicked: After seeing that I am amazed that the southwestern US isn't filled with horrible mutant freaks.


Yeah, so - been paying attention to Arizona lately?
 
2010-07-08 10:18:09 AM  

Flab: ihatedumbpeople: Nah...that's 2053 explosions over 60 years. Do that many in a day and see what happens.

You'd probably have to also move a couple of them from the middle of nowhere to say... cities of a few million people.


Heck...that amount of nukes at once you wouldn't even have to hit major cities to do a lot of harm. Fallout, radiation and the dust kicked into teh atmosphere may kill as many people, though it'll be a slower crappier death.
 
2010-07-08 10:18:20 AM  

thetubameister: How is there anything left of the US Southwest?!?!?


The NTS is about 680 square miles. Most of the shots took place in a relatively small area, no bigger than metro NYC...something like that. Other tests were Ploughshares tests in northern New Mexico and Western Colorado (for example) where they were experimenting to see if natural gas production could be enhanced using atomic bombs to fracture rock strata (it didn't work).

[image from ce.unlv.edu too old to be available]

So, it's all very, very scary if you don't put it in perspective and realize that most of the radiation (~99%) was contained underground, and that living in the Southwestern U.S. is a daily radiation bath anyway - just living in Colorado exposes one to about 200 millirems/year (high altitude). IOW, the menace of all of the testing is and was overblown. Yes, some of the early atmospheric tests were bad, and yes, there's no good reason to keep setting the damned things off, but no, the testing done to date has not poisoned vast stretches of the landscape. If I were you, I'd be far more worried about an x-ray or MRI.

Think and find out, don't let the hand-wringers frighten you.

Is a radiation dose of 360 millirem in a year harmful?

No. No effects have ever been observed at doses below 5,000 millirem delivered over a one year period. In fact, effects seen when humans are exposed to 100,000 millirem over a short time period are temporary and reversible. It takes a short-term dose of well over 500,000 millirem to cause a fatality.
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2010-07-08 10:18:37 AM  

Ninja Wicked: After seeing that I am amazed that the southwestern US isn't filled with horrible mutant freaks.


read the Arizona newspapers!
 
2010-07-08 10:18:45 AM  

Thunderpipes: Why I also laugh at people who think the Gulf oil spill is some world changing event. In the overall scheme of things, it is an absolute zero impact event.


Agreed, but it's not really part of human nature to think of things on a scale long beyond our own lifespans, and I don't really think you can fault people for that.
 
2010-07-08 10:19:03 AM  

Ninja Wicked: After seeing that I am amazed that the southwestern US isn't filled with horrible mutant freaks.


It's not?

/by the time I get to Arizona
 
2010-07-08 10:19:18 AM  

loki see loki do: I like how his world map has Japan at the center of the world.


In the middle of the core?
 
2010-07-08 10:19:32 AM  

tdpatriots12: Oldiron_79: Only 2 really mattered.

I'd say three had significance so far.

1) Hiroshima
2) Nagasaki
3) First Soviet weapons test (US monopoly on nuclear weapons is over)


Yeah... with stolen US designs. Scientists wanted to use their design but Kremlin said no... use US.
 
2010-07-08 10:19:39 AM  

Ninja Wicked: After seeing that I am amazed that the southwestern US isn't filled with horrible mutant freaks.


lol
 
2010-07-08 10:19:46 AM  
At first I was bored, then I went WOW!, then I cried...
 
2010-07-08 10:20:20 AM  
Jesus Christ, that was boring as f*ck.
 
2010-07-08 10:20:25 AM  

endtimethirtyfour: reminded me of Philip Glass.


Ha, fool, or Hal Fempty?
 
2010-07-08 10:21:16 AM  

canyoneer: thetubameister: How is there anything left of the US Southwest?!?!?

The NTS is about 680 square miles. Most of the shots took place in a relatively small area, no bigger than metro NYC...something like that. Other tests were Ploughshares tests in northern New Mexico and Western Colorado (for example) where they were experimenting to see if natural gas production could be enhanced using atomic bombs to fracture rock strata (it didn't work).

So, it's all very, very scary if you don't put it in perspective and realize that most of the radiation (~99%) was contained underground, and that living in the Southwestern U.S. is a daily radiation bath anyway - just living in Colorado exposes one to about 200 millirems/year (high altitude). IOW, the menace of all of the testing is and was overblown. Yes, some of the early atmospheric tests were bad, and yes, there's no good reason to keep setting the damned things off, but no, the testing done to date has not poisoned vast stretches of the landscape. If I were you, I'd be far more worried about an x-ray or MRI.

Think and find out, don't let the hand-wringers frighten you.

Is a radiation dose of 360 millirem in a year harmful?

No. No effects have ever been observed at doses below 5,000 millirem delivered over a one year period. In fact, effects seen when humans are exposed to 100,000 millirem over a short time period are temporary and reversible. It takes a short-term dose of well over 500,000 millirem to cause a fatality. (new window)


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Would have preferred they hadn't done quite so many tests.
 
2010-07-08 10:21:37 AM  
I saw Pakistan but not India.
 
2010-07-08 10:21:37 AM  

rwfan: PatientZero: rwfan: That is 2053 nuclear explosions and the world survived. Add to that one farktacularly irresponsible reactor accident and the world survived. Perhaps the hysteria surrounding nuclear energy is a bit overblown?

I hope you know, those 2053 explosions didn't all happen at the same time, like they would in a nuclear war...

?! I tried to highlight to help with reading comprehension. Let me know if you need more help.


Unfortunately Chernobyl (and to a lesser extent Three Mile Island) became rallying points for those opposed to nuclear energy due to their own interests (coal, oil, etc)
 
2010-07-08 10:22:12 AM  

Thunderpipes: Why I also laugh at people who think the Gulf oil spill is some world changing event. In the overall scheme of things, it is an absolute zero impact event.


On a long-enough time-frame, so is the existence of the universe.
 
2010-07-08 10:22:39 AM  

Schlock: Thunderpipes: Why I also laugh at people who think the Gulf oil spill is some world changing event. In the overall scheme of things, it is an absolute zero impact event.

Agreed, but it's not really part of human nature to think of things on a scale long beyond our own lifespans, and I don't really think you can fault people for that.


I agree. I am one, however, that thinks a full scale nuclear war would actually be very good for humanity (not so much for the people who die in it), and the Earth. Our population is growing at a rate that eventually will demand too many resources. A large nuclear war would cull that somewhat, and it would also allow more physically robust people a greater advantage so we could clean up the gene pool.

Plus...super mutants...
 
2010-07-08 10:22:56 AM  

shirtsbyeric: I saw Pakistan but not India.


India was the second to last flag to appear, following China
 
2010-07-08 10:24:20 AM  

Doctor Whomever: FTFY. To imply the USA bombed Japan "out of anger" is a gross misrepresentation of history.


This is true - it was done more out of political calculation, a warning to the Russians write large, if you will.
 
2010-07-08 10:25:03 AM  

slothMD: Thunderpipes: Why I also laugh at people who think the Gulf oil spill is some world changing event. In the overall scheme of things, it is an absolute zero impact event.

On a long-enough time-frame, so is the existence of the universe.


If you get down to the theories, even that is debatable. That just gets into crap that makes my head hurt.

In our lifetime, the Gulf will recover. All of human history is just such a tiny little spec of time, we are arrogant to think our worrying about the Earth or its wildlife is anything more than worrying about our own personal comfort in the here and now.
 
2010-07-08 10:25:43 AM  

loki see loki do: I like how his world map has Japan at the center of the world.

Nationalist douchbaggery, even at a subliminal level, exists everywhere.


Not totally unreasonable, given how many tests there were in the Pacific and western North America.
 
2010-07-08 10:26:09 AM  

Nightsweat: "Would have preferred they hadn't done quite so many tests."


The big mistake there was hauling tons of contaminated sand back to the studio. It's also notable that most of the cancer deaths associated with that movie happened to be in heavy smokers, and that none of the deaths can be linked conclusively to Upshot Knothole.
 
2010-07-08 10:26:29 AM  

Petulant Dwarf: Isn't it ironic that the nation most concerned with stopping other countries from having nukes, the USA, is the only country to have ever deployed the weapons against another sovereign nation?


Gee I wonder who would know the HORROR of such a weapon.
Usually 2 people... those on whom a weapon is used and those who use the weapon...

Makes sence that the US would be heading the fight against them.


PS
I am not from the USA or a citizen of the USA.
 
2010-07-08 10:26:29 AM  
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We finally, really did it. You Maniacs!"
"You blew it up! Ah, damn you!"
"God damn you all to hell!"
 
2010-07-08 10:27:04 AM  
this video led to wiki'ing of nuclear bombs, which led to nucler propulsion and cold war treaties, and a shiatton more stuff. work productivity = 0.
 
2010-07-08 10:28:14 AM  

PatientZero: I hope you know, those 2053 explosions didn't all happen at the same time, like they would in a nuclear war...


So...if every one of those tests had occurred simultaneously, how would you say that the outcome would be different?
 
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