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(The Daily Record)   When playing a hilarious prank on your friend, make sure that the firecracker you're using isn't actually a Civil War re-enactor's gunpowder tube   (dailyrecord.com) divider line
    More: Dumbass, Hanover, Jersey City, Civil War reenactors, Joseph Princiotta  
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2010-07-08 12:08:13 AM  
powdah! ... say it ... POWDAH!

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2010-07-08 12:23:25 AM  

dillenger69: powdah! ... say it ... POWDAH!


You know what I'm thinking, boy...
/Meow meow meow meow...
 
2010-07-08 1:22:15 AM  
80 grains or so of black powder in a paper cartridge for like a Springfield rifle musket is oh yeah going to flare up just a tad.
 
2010-07-08 2:33:38 AM  
So ... moran didn't notice that there wasn't a fuse?

"Light the paper, it'll be fine!"
 
2010-07-08 5:12:01 AM  
Huh, huh, huh, hey Beavis, hold this for me.
 
2010-07-08 5:17:37 AM  

vossiewulf: 80 grains or so of black powder in a paper cartridge for like a Springfield rifle musket is oh yeah going to flare up just a tad.


But it smells AWESOME!
 
2010-07-08 5:18:47 AM  

Therion: So ... moran didn't notice that there wasn't a fuse?

"Light the paper, it'll be fine!"



Sounds like the party I went to on the 4th. Really though, who can confuse the two? Oh, yeah, New Jersey. Makes a bit more sense.
 
2010-07-08 5:18:48 AM  
This is why all war reenactments should be banned.
 
2010-07-08 5:30:34 AM  
But it's FUNNY!!!!
 
2010-07-08 5:49:38 AM  

pit_monster: But it's FUNNY!!!!


It sounds like nobody was seriously hurt, you'd laugh and you know it. I know I would.
 
2010-07-08 5:53:43 AM  
Charging the guy with assault really seems kind of silly, unless he sincerely meant to cause some kind of harm.
 
2010-07-08 6:07:32 AM  
Assault charges for a stupid mistake seems a bit much. Kick the moron in the nuts and let it go, man.
 
2010-07-08 6:41:43 AM  
Actually, from the article, it sounds to me that the guy got the tube from his friend, then asked some random guy to light it.

If you did that to me, and I didn't know you, then I might consider pressing charges.
 
2010-07-08 8:33:10 AM  

vossiewulf: 80 grains or so of black powder in a paper cartridge for like a Springfield rifle musket is oh yeah going to flare up just a tad.


It'll flare, but it won't go "BANG". It would be more like a "POOF". Paper cartridges won't hold in the gases enough to make a bang.
 
2010-07-08 8:39:01 AM  

yarnothuntin: vossiewulf: 80 grains or so of black powder in a paper cartridge for like a Springfield rifle musket is oh yeah going to flare up just a tad.

But it smells AWESOME!


That's why the call it "The Devil's Flatulence".

By the way, here is an interesting little poem from the time of the Civil War related to the smell of black powder (keep in mind that urine was collected in order to make Potassium Nitrate, the main ingredient of black powder):

John Haroldson, John Haroldson,
We've heard in song and story
How women's tears through all the years
Have moistened fields of glory.

But never have we heard, John,
That 'mid such scenes and slaughter,
Your southern beauties dried their tears
And went to making water.

No wonder Rebel boys are brave;
Who wouldn't be a fighter
When every time he fired his gun
He used his sweetheart's nitre?

And vice versa, what could make
A Yankee soldier sadder
Than dodging bullets fired by
A pretty woman's bladder?

They say there is a subtle smell
That lingers in the powder,
And as the smoke grows thicker
And the din of battle louder,

That there is found in this compound
One serious objection:
No soldier boy can sniff it
Without having an erection.
 
2010-07-08 8:49:54 AM  
I pulled a similar prank on a friend in high school. I emptied half the tobacco out of a cigarette and filled about a half inch of the space with powdered model rocket engine fuel, then capped it off with tobacco. I'll never forget sitting in the woods watching him pull on that cigarette, wondering why it was so hard to do...then WOOOOSH! His face was replaced by a brilliant red fireball as he fell over slapping his own mouth. Luckily he didn't get burned and we remained friends, which was surprising considering how many of my pranks sent him to the hospital.
 
2010-07-08 8:56:36 AM  
TFA: instead of lighting a cigarette as he thought

It looks nothing like a cigarette, even to morons who think it's a good idea to set off firecrackers in their mouths. Everyone knows what he thought it was... just say it.
 
2010-07-08 9:19:07 AM  
Worthless if they didn't record it.
 
2010-07-08 9:35:14 AM  

PYROY: I pulled a similar prank on a friend in high school. I emptied half the tobacco out of a cigarette and filled about a half inch of the space with powdered model rocket engine fuel, then capped it off with tobacco. I'll never forget sitting in the woods watching him pull on that cigarette, wondering why it was so hard to do...then WOOOOSH! His face was replaced by a brilliant red fireball as he fell over slapping his own mouth. Luckily he didn't get burned and we remained friends, which was surprising considering how many of my pranks sent him to the hospital.


Fitting Fark handle.
 
2010-07-08 11:27:55 AM  

dittybopper: vossiewulf: 80 grains or so of black powder in a paper cartridge for like a Springfield rifle musket is oh yeah going to flare up just a tad.

It'll flare, but it won't go "BANG". It would be more like a "POOF". Paper cartridges won't hold in the gases enough to make a bang.


You're confusing black powder with smokeless powder.
 
2010-07-08 1:09:43 PM  

djh0101010: dittybopper: vossiewulf: 80 grains or so of black powder in a paper cartridge for like a Springfield rifle musket is oh yeah going to flare up just a tad.

It'll flare, but it won't go "BANG". It would be more like a "POOF". Paper cartridges won't hold in the gases enough to make a bang.

You're confusing black powder with smokeless powder.


No, I'm not.

FTFA:

Police said Joseph Princiotta, 42, of Jersey City, obtained the cartridge from his friend, a Civil War re-enactor, who had the tube of gun powder with some of his re-enactment gear.

It was a paper cartridge filled with black powder. Civil War reenactors don't use smokeless powder, it wouldn't be authentic.

And I have a *LONG* association with black powder:

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2010-07-08 1:13:30 PM  

djh0101010: dittybopper: vossiewulf: 80 grains or so of black powder in a paper cartridge for like a Springfield rifle musket is oh yeah going to flare up just a tad.

It'll flare, but it won't go "BANG". It would be more like a "POOF". Paper cartridges won't hold in the gases enough to make a bang.

You're confusing black powder with smokeless powder.



Nah, uncontained black powder goes poof (think trail of powder as a fuse), contain/pressurize it so the flame front moves faster and you get bang.
 
2010-07-08 1:20:32 PM  
Link (new window)

Here it is, Mythbusters did something similar. Example at 1:30 using 4F black powder.
 
2010-07-08 1:40:13 PM  

dittybopper: You're confusing black powder with smokeless powder.

No, I'm not.

FTFA:

Police said Joseph Princiotta, 42, of Jersey City, obtained the cartridge from his friend, a Civil War re-enactor, who had the tube of gun powder with some of his re-enactment gear.

It was a paper cartridge filled with black powder. Civil War reenactors don't use smokeless powder, it wouldn't be authentic.

And I have a *LONG* association with black powder:


Smokeless conflagrates, and will "flare" if not contained. Black powder doesn't flare, contained or not.
 
2010-07-08 1:45:25 PM  
It occurs to me that we might be describing different things with our use of the word "flare".

/27 pieces
 
2010-07-08 1:56:19 PM  
djh0101010:

Smokeless conflagrates, and will "flare" if not contained. Black powder doesn't flare, contained or not.


how would you describe it?
 
2010-07-08 3:45:17 PM  
Take a tablespoon of black powder, put it in one ashtray, and take a tablespoon of smokeless powder, put it in another. Drop a match in each one. The smokeless is a fast but progressive burn, what I'd say "flare" describes. The black powder is more of a "Poof" all at once. Even uncontained, the black powder goes up more or less all at once, where the smokeless you can watch burn across the pile.

Yeah, vague and unsatisfying. Get some of each and try it yourself.
 
2010-07-08 5:07:44 PM  
It was a "prank" so it's okay.
 
2010-07-08 7:53:41 PM  

Seamus_Mc: djh0101010:

Smokeless conflagrates, and will "flare" if not contained. Black powder doesn't flare, contained or not.

how would you describe it?


Black powder is not a high explosive. The technical term for what it does is deflagration, not detonation, which basically means "burns reeel fast but not as fast as a true explosive." Deflagration to me = flare.
 
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