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(Medal Mental Mettle)   If you're a veteran and are reluctant to seek help for PTSD, some guys with brass balls wrapped in blue ribbons have something to say   (medalofhonorspeakout.org) divider line
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2010-06-19 4:48:22 PM  
+ 1 Salute.
 
2010-06-19 5:01:44 PM  
Allergies are acting up.
 
2010-06-20 1:24:21 PM  
It's a shame this didn't go green.
 
2010-06-20 4:27:35 PM  

Marley: It's a shame this didn't go green.


This is Fark. Why would you be surprised?
 
2010-06-20 5:39:34 PM  

Friskya: Marley: It's a shame this didn't go green.

This is Fark. Why would you be surprised?


Fark is an international collection of nerds. Limited number of vets here.
 
2010-06-20 6:13:39 PM  

Friskya: Marley: It's a shame this didn't go green.

This is Fark. Why would you be surprised?


Who said I was surprised? I said it was a shame.
 
2010-06-20 6:52:34 PM  
I should have spent more time on the headline. Somebody, anybody, please re-submit with a better headline!

/Subby
 
2010-06-20 9:40:02 PM  

doglover: Fark is an international collection of nerds. Limited number of vets here.


Speak for yourself.

US Army, 1991-94.

still working on the 'disabled vet' status
 
2010-06-20 9:41:41 PM  
Can't video at work, anybody got a summary?


/USN 1996-2000
 
2010-06-20 9:43:15 PM  

Staffist: I should have spent more time on the headline. Somebody, anybody, please re-submit with a better headline!

/Subby


Looks like it went green anyway.
 
2010-06-20 9:44:40 PM  
As a vet with PTSD (USMC '02-'06) I couldn't agree more. There is a lot of help out there as well as benefits to be had by those who have served. Take advantage of what's offered to help those in need. I lost a great relationship with a great woman because I didn't face my fight coming home from Iraq. Now that I've seeked help by others, (whom are typically veterans such as yourself), I can focus on the future and better myself as a citizen. Despite what the public thinks about the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, most support the troops, and even if you're out, you still have a battle buddy.

Semper Fi.
 
2010-06-20 9:46:27 PM  

Brainsick: Can't video at work, anybody got a summary?


can't get the video on this crappy computer, but I think it's summed up as - "quit being a f*king pussy and get help"

/f*cking pussy
//but no PTSD
 
2010-06-20 9:46:32 PM  
This thread exemplifies the purpose of the linked page perfectly; if you whine enough you get your way.

/ troll off.
 
2010-06-20 9:47:12 PM  
Salute.

+1
 
2010-06-20 9:50:39 PM  

jingks: This thread exemplifies the purpose of the linked page perfectly; if you whine enough you get your way.

/ troll off.


¿wot
 
2010-06-20 9:51:27 PM  
Thanks for the link, subby.
I'm not a vet, but I'm passing this along anyways. It's a good message.
 
2010-06-20 9:52:15 PM  

jingks: This thread exemplifies the purpose of the linked page perfectly; if you whine enough you get your way.

/ troll off.


co-opcityweb.comView Full Size

/dick, yes you are thye dick
 
2010-06-20 9:52:34 PM  
Maybe if we didn't call it a farking disorder people wouldn't be so reluctant.

Go back to calling it shell shock.
 
2010-06-20 9:53:03 PM  
But if we treat these vets for PTSD who are we going to rely on to assassinate public officials?
 
2010-06-20 9:54:39 PM  

doglover: Friskya: Marley: It's a shame this didn't go green.

This is Fark. Why would you be surprised?

Fark is an international collection of nerds. Limited number of vets here.


But we all love Jimmy Patterson!
 
2010-06-20 9:58:31 PM  
Fark is an international collection of nerds. Limited number of vets here.

Army National Guard, '81 to '87. Weekend vet?
 
2010-06-20 9:58:38 PM  
My brother gets back from Iraq this week loaded full of shrapnel but with all his limbs. I hope to God he's okay in the head, but after having a 12 year old throw a grenade into his truck I have a feeling he's going to be a bit scrambled....
 
2010-06-20 10:00:58 PM  

jingks: This thread exemplifies the purpose of the linked page perfectly; if you whine enough you get your way.

/ troll off.


/+1
/ Thanks for the laugh
 
2010-06-20 10:04:35 PM  
I am not a vet. Can't serve in milatary due to deafness. But I have to applaude the balls of the guys who served telling anyone with PTSD to get help. I am sure many can adapt but many cannot. As a non veteran I applaude those who step up to get the help they need and the Heroes who encourage them to do the same.
 
2010-06-20 10:04:59 PM  
Awesome...got something in my eyes, though...
 
2010-06-20 10:05:11 PM  

Gals Panic: My brother gets back from Iraq this week loaded full of shrapnel but with all his limbs. I hope to God he's okay in the head, but after having a 12 year old throw a grenade into his truck I have a feeling he's going to be a bit scrambled....


Go easy on him, & be patient - I was cool for close to 10 years before I finally lost it. Only reason I'm still alive is because of a seriously patien & loving wife.
/in uniform since '75
//God bless him, & salutes
 
2010-06-20 10:10:08 PM  

doglover: Fark is an international collection of nerds. Limited number of vets here.


Nope were here - Submarine service STS2(ss)

And before some snarky 15 yr old Call of duty gamer says something, the services we get were earned the day we got out of boot camp.
 
2010-06-20 10:15:05 PM  
My old man, Marine, is a Vietnam Vet, and finally went in. He tried to go in when he got out, but said they would hardly give him the time. I usually don't jump in military threads, but he has calmed down quite a bit and seems a little happier after the past few years of having a place to go to where he can talk to people that have an idea of what he went through and can talk to other vets. I think the being able to discuss things with other vets has probably helped the most, but I'm sure the psychs have had a hand in it as well.
So to all those vets: If you feel that what you've been through has taken a toll on you, go check it out. It's good for you and you're family/future family. Nothing wrong with atleast giving it a shot.
 
2010-06-20 10:19:08 PM  

Gals Panic: My brother gets back from Iraq this week loaded full of shrapnel but with all his limbs. I hope to God he's okay in the head, but after having a 12 year old throw a grenade into his truck I have a feeling he's going to be a bit scrambled....


People react differently to trauma. I would be there for him but I wouldn't push the issue if he is acting different to seek help. The best way to help someone with PTSD just after they get back is to talk to one of his comrades that served with them, (in this day of age, simple facebook/myspace check) and let them know that you're concerned but supportive. Time will help heal the wounds but in the end it takes some effort from both sides.
 
2010-06-20 10:29:27 PM  
Thank you for posting this.
 
2010-06-20 10:33:36 PM  
Having recently deployed, if dealing with the stupidity of the higher ups doesn't cause PTSD, nothing will.

/sort of kidding

CSB. I'm at a gas station, filling up. Harley Motorcycle dude comes over and asks for some directions. I'm in my uniform so he asks if I've been deployed, yada, yada. He was in Vietnam, kid is in Afghanistan. He goes to leave and he gives me a hug. Kinda heartwarming.
 
2010-06-20 10:36:59 PM  
Thank goodness someone had balls enough to make this video. If you need help soldier, go. You aren't any less because you do.
 
2010-06-20 10:37:41 PM  
It seems that in the most recent conflicts we only give out the MOH posthumously. This saddens me. There have t be some vets her deserve such distinction that also had the fortune of surviving.
 
2010-06-20 10:38:17 PM  

jingks: This thread exemplifies the purpose of the linked page perfectly; if you whine enough you get your way.

/ troll off.


i137.photobucket.com
 
2010-06-20 10:40:38 PM  
I really effing hope there's someone for them when they do.

5 years ago or so, I met the dad of a soldier who started drinking like hell to deal with his PTSD. Got him to go to the VA; they wouldn't take him until he stopped drinking, so he killed himself instead.

A friend of mine also had PTSD and snapped once when he saw someone physically assault his girlfriend. I mean, at least his fury was directed at someone who deserved it that time, but yeah. Didn't remember a thing.

VA wouldn't help him, and every single sliding-scale psych in town he contacted said they weren't qualified to deal with 'combat related issues'. Also around 5 years ago.

Oh, that reminds me, I have a bunch of pyschs I need to slap upside the head.
 
2010-06-20 10:43:03 PM  

doglover: Friskya: Marley: It's a shame this didn't go green.

This is Fark. Why would you be surprised?

Fark is an international collection of nerds. Limited number of vets here.


Well, there's FLYNAVY, and...

Seriously, there's a bunch of vets / folks currently serving on here. You've been here 5 years and not noticed any?
 
2010-06-20 10:44:28 PM  
I'm a Marine Core vet, myself... so I'm getting a kick out of all of these replies...
 
2010-06-20 10:51:00 PM  
USN Combat Aircrew 90-95
 
2010-06-20 10:51:10 PM  
This is great and everything.... but we still have a million people on the VA claims backlog. You can already have asked for help and there is nothing that the va can tell you except take these pills and wait for years to have your case heard.


I recently called my one of my Senators to ask what they are doing about the backlog. He said that there is nothing they can do. I personally am in favor of outright approval of all va claims filled out with the help of a service officer. When I brought up outright approval. He replied with "Could you imagine the sheer cost of that". Am I the only one that has a problem with this?

Is there anyway we can turn this into one of those feel good fark threads? Where we all write nasty letters to elected officials until they do something.
 
2010-06-20 10:53:01 PM  

Successful Troll: I'm a Marine Core vet, myself... so I'm getting a kick out of all of these replies...


Appropriate Fark tag is appropriate.
 
2010-06-20 10:57:35 PM  

doglover: Friskya: Marley: It's a shame this didn't go green.

This is Fark. Why would you be surprised?

Fark is an international collection of nerds. Limited number of vets here.


Vets are nerds too!

U.S. Army 1995-2008
 
2010-06-20 10:58:31 PM  
I hope this video does some good.
 
2010-06-20 11:03:30 PM  

RandyMarsh: This is great and everything.... but we still have a million people on the VA claims backlog. You can already have asked for help and there is nothing that the va can tell you except take these pills and wait for years to have your case heard.


I recently called my one of my Senators to ask what they are doing about the backlog. He said that there is nothing they can do. I personally am in favor of outright approval of all va claims filled out with the help of a service officer. When I brought up outright approval. He replied with "Could you imagine the sheer cost of that". Am I the only one that has a problem with this?

Is there anyway we can turn this into one of those feel good fark threads? Where we all write nasty letters to elected officials until they do something.


And I recall the various pundits attacking Joe Stiglitz when he estimated the true cost of the Iraq war at 3 trillion dollars (click here, it pops!) when he added in the overlooked costs of little things such as, you know, LOOKING AFTER THE TROOPS WHEN THEY CAME HOME!...
 
2010-06-20 11:08:11 PM  

ansius:
And I recall the various pundits attacking Joe Stiglitz when he estimated the true cost of the Iraq war at 3 trillion dollars (click here, it pops!) when he added in the overlooked costs of little things such as, you know, LOOKING AFTER THE TROOPS WHEN THEY CAME HOME!...


I said the same thing to him. He replied with.... wait for it.... "You have Ptsd, you don't even know what your saying right now". Dude, was lucky he didn't say that to my face.
 
2010-06-20 11:11:37 PM  
(SS) here. I didn't see active combat but still had to adjust due to the social isolation I was used to.
 
2010-06-20 11:15:38 PM  
My grandfather didn't get help after the WWII (not that it was really available then). So he used a bunch of alcohol.

This was not good for grandma and the kids.

Go get help.
 
2010-06-20 11:15:41 PM  
My wife suffers from PTSD, though not from combat. A lot of bad shiat has happened to her and it's caused her some serious psychological damage. I was able to get her into therapy but she resisted seeing a psychiatrist. It's very farking important that the symptoms (anxiety, hypersensitivity, etc) are managed when therapy begins since delving into the past and digging up all that bad shiat is guaranteed to cause "triggers".

Unfortunately, my wife triggered big time. She packed her things and left a few days ago. I have no idea where she is and she won't answer her cell phone.

If you know someone suffering from PTSD, get them help. Get them to a psychiatrist first, then into therapy. Don't screw up like I did.

/Worse farking week of my entire life
 
2010-06-20 11:24:53 PM  
I have a friend who is a therapist with the VA here in Austin, and he has an overflowing case-load of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans with PTSD. He's very empathetic and does great work. Unfortunately, not every veteran has access to this, and it's not easy for someone who is battle hardened to accept this kind of help.

Also have an acquaintance who's an Iraq veteran with bad PTSD ... nicest guy you could ever hope to meet (I only knew him after he got back). He's been through a lot of truly unimaginable stuff, and I'm surprised he's as functional as he is.

War is hell, it's a depth of horror those of us who haven't been there can't even begin to imagine, and it's hardly surprising that it farks people up in this way. They need and deserve the very best of mental health care, it's absolutely the minimum our society can do for them.

It takes a vast amount of courage to admit to being human and fallible, and to accept this help, and other veterans are a key part of bringing people to the help they need. These guys are true heroes twice over.
 
2010-06-20 11:33:40 PM  
According to my WW2 vet uncle (Navy, pacific theater,) we're all weak pansies. Apparently, a real man doesn't get therapy, and should beat the hell out anyone suggesting otherwise. He honestly can't get his mind around PTSD, and thinks lawyers made it up.

/Also, we pencil necks are supposed to go get him a beer.
 
2010-06-20 11:41:17 PM  
Where is the hero tag?

/I was going to join the military but went into the Air Force instead. 1985-1988
 
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