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(Honolulu Star-Advertiser)   The "healing stone of Wahiawa", considered by local Hindus to be a representation of Shiva, stolen by Hawaiians who call it Keanianileihuaokalani and plan to return it to site of ancient births   (staradvertiser.com) divider line
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jehovahs witness protection
2010-06-19 10:00:52 AM  
Bring in the Brady Bunch
 
Marcus Aurelius [TotalFark] [BareFark] [OhFark]
2010-06-19 10:04:29 AM  
"If our kupuna tell us to do something else, we will. But right now the stone needs to rest and gather its energy in private."

My balls often feel the same way.
 
Blues_X
2010-06-19 10:13:32 AM  
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APPROOOOOOOOOOOVES!!! HA HA HA HA!

/he's maniacal
 
PacManDreaming
2010-06-19 10:16:42 AM  

Blues_X: APPROOOOOOOOOOOVES!!! HA HA HA HA!

/he's maniacal


"You betrayed Shiva! Thum Shiva Ke Vishwasth Karthe Ho! You betrayed Shiva!"
 
UNC_Samurai [TotalFark]
2010-06-19 10:23:43 AM  
Well, the Hindus took it for granite.
 
dgc360
2010-06-19 10:24:44 AM  

Blues_X: APPROOOOOOOOOOOVES!!! HA HA HA HA!

/he's maniacal


came for the Temple of Doom reference, left satisfied.
 
Barakku
2010-06-19 11:19:25 AM  
Hawaiian nationalists

Talk about winning the battle but losing the war
 
FunkOut
2010-06-19 11:19:57 AM  
Idiots. It's clearly one of Zeus's kidney stones.
 
Aboleth
2010-06-19 11:21:03 AM  
Done in three... and four.
 
Evil Mackerel
2010-06-19 11:22:39 AM  
I thought Indy returned that thing to the valley.
 
Coelacanth
2010-06-19 11:24:51 AM  
They're fighting over a rock...
 
downtownkid
2010-06-19 11:26:55 AM  
Keep Greg off that surfboard!
 
jaytkay [TotalFark]
2010-06-19 11:26:56 AM  

Coelacanth: They're fighting over a rock...


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/ Approves
 
kabloink [TotalFark]
2010-06-19 11:29:09 AM  
Don't worry, they will put up a reward for information about it's location. At some point one of their friends or neighbors will need money for some meth and turn them in.

No I am not being sarcastic.
 
stirfrybry
2010-06-19 11:30:24 AM  

jehovahs witness protection: Bring in the Brady Bunch


WIN!

Doolooloolooloooloooooooo
 
empres77 [TotalFark] [BareFark] [OhFark]
2010-06-19 11:34:21 AM  
It belongs in a museum!
 
RidersOfLohan
2010-06-19 11:39:38 AM  
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Babies with Rabies
2010-06-19 11:40:49 AM  
"Listen up, big kahuna. We will make you a true beliewer."
 
Ambitwistor
2010-06-19 11:40:57 AM  
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turkenblut
2010-06-19 11:41:00 AM  
"It is our duty to malama the things that are sacred and put them where they belong. Our kupuna told us it was time to take them home, and we did. And if we take care our kupuna, our kupuna take care us."

What the hell kind of word filter are they using over there?
 
Weezer808
2010-06-19 11:42:43 AM  
As somebody who was born and raised in Hawaii, I can honestly say...

"Huh?"
 
musashi1600
2010-06-19 11:45:49 AM  

turkenblut: What the hell kind of word filter are they using over there?


Mālama: To care for, to protect (as a steward).

Kūpuna: Elders, ancestors.
 
Bondith [BareFark]
2010-06-19 11:48:25 AM  
It belongs in a museum!

"We believe that God can be everywhere and that a stone can represent God," Sengupta said.

If God can be anywhere, can't he be in some other random rock? There are plenty of aluminosilicate aggregates to go around.

Besides, you're Hindu. If someone runs off with one of your gods, you've still got three million others. It's not like you'd miss one.

Our kupuna told us it was time to take them home, and we did.

I see. And how long have you been hearing these voices? Have you sought professional help?

/equal-opportunity religion-mocker
 
Mai Balsicz
2010-06-19 11:51:46 AM  
"the stone -- called Keanianileihuaokalani"

Apparently they stole the vowels from Kyrgyzstan too...
 
CrotchBeard
2010-06-19 11:54:36 AM  
This thread needs more Shuk ti day
 
LordJiro [BareFark] [OhFark]
2010-06-19 11:55:41 AM  
The "healing stone of Wahiawa", considered by local Hindus to be a representation of Shiva, stolen by Hawaiians who call it Keanianileihuaokalani and plan to return it to site of ancient births

Kenya?
 
Barakku
2010-06-19 11:55:42 AM  

Mai Balsicz: "the stone -- called Keanianileihuaokalani"

Apparently they stole the vowels from Kyrgyzstan too...


Turns out it was an ignius rock from Eyjahlalalilialkull
 
pudgyv
2010-06-19 11:57:00 AM  
Idolitors fighting over a rock. The ultimate waste of time and emotion.
 
fatassbastard [TotalFark]
2010-06-19 12:08:21 PM  

pudgyv: Idolitors fighting over a rock. The ultimate waste of time and emotion.


I was going to come in and may a comment along those lines, but since you've put it so succinctly, I'll just go with "THIS".
 
chairborne
2010-06-19 12:17:26 PM  
magic rocks, in my 2010?
 
Dreamless [BareFark] [OhFark]
2010-06-19 12:19:39 PM  

chairborne: magic rocks, in my 2010?


It's more likely than you think.
 
ramen_for_all
2010-06-19 12:19:51 PM  
Mekalekahi meka heinieho
 
All Latest [TotalFark] [BareFark] [OhFark]
2010-06-19 12:30:46 PM  

LordJiro: The "healing stone of Wahiawa", considered by local Hindus to be a representation of Shiva, stolen by Hawaiians who call it Keanianileihuaokalani and plan to return it to site of ancient births

Kenya?


ISWYDT

Lol
 
UseLessHuman
2010-06-19 12:34:49 PM  
Basically every religion believes that their god created the whole of existence. Why do they believe that any particular rock, city, or symbol would be any more or less important to their god than any other? Logical fallacies abound.

Every religion is false and every person who purports to know the true religion is a liar whether they believe it or not.

The one thing that humans are best at is manipulation, especially when it comes to manipulating other people. How long will we allow these lies to be told under the auspices of freedom? We allow them to tell children these things knowing full well that children don't have the knowledge and experience required to judge them for what they are.

Save the world. Even convenient lies must be called out for what they are.
 
redsquid
2010-06-19 12:36:23 PM  
Mai Balsicz: "the stone -- called Keanianileihuaokalani"

Apparently they stole the vowels from Kyrgyzstan too...

The Hawai'ian alphabet only has 12 letters and 6 of them are 'a'.
 
dervish16108
2010-06-19 12:38:03 PM  

Bondith: Besides, you're Hindu. If someone runs off with one of your gods, you've still got three million others. It's not like you'd miss one.


The worshippers in question are Shaivites. They believe Shiva is God in a very similar sense that the Abrahamic religions believe in Jesus, Allah, Yahweh, etc. They wont worship any of the millions of demigods instead of Shiva, but they might offer worship to some demigods when appropriate once proper worship is given to Shiva.
 
dervish16108
2010-06-19 12:41:18 PM  
Anyhow, Wahiawa isn't the greatest neighborhood. The Hindus should have made their shrine in Hawaii Kai.
 
Cormee [TotalFark]
2010-06-19 12:41:38 PM  
The holy stone of Clonrichert
 
Bondith [BareFark]
2010-06-19 12:50:16 PM  
dervish16108
The worshippers in question are Shaivites. They believe Shiva is God in a very similar sense that the Abrahamic religions believe in Jesus, Allah, Yahweh, etc. They wont worship any of the millions of demigods instead of Shiva, but they might offer worship to some demigods when appropriate once proper worship is given to Shiva.

This is Fark. Your facts, tolerance and understanding are not welcome here.

Seriously, though, is Hinduism polytheistic or is it actually pantheistic, where all the various gods and things are all aspects of The One or something?
 
Savage Belief
2010-06-19 12:50:47 PM  
Hawaiians...and plan to return it to site of ancient births

Maybe that's where Obama's long form is?

/ducks
 
deciusmaximus
2010-06-19 12:51:08 PM  

UseLessHuman

Basically every religion believes that their god created the whole of existence. Why do they believe that any particular rock, city, or symbol would be any more or less important to their god than any other? Logical fallacies abound.

Every religion is false and every person who purports to know the true religion is a liar whether they believe it or not.

The one thing that humans are best at is manipulation, especially when it comes to manipulating other people. How long will we allow these lies to be told under the auspices of freedom? We allow them to tell children these things knowing full well that children don't have the knowledge and experience required to judge them for what they are.

Save the world. Even convenient lies must be called out for what they are.

Yes, round them up. Put them in camps. Reeducate those religious bastards. They have had ENOUGH freedom. Take their kids, teach them the TRUTH as only we know it. If the parents don't give up their lying religious ways then BURN THEM AT THE STAKE. This is the price of telling lies about skywizards and zombie carpenters. Crusades! Inquisition! They are all complicit in the crimes of religion. Either by action or by THOUGHT! They must be punished.
 
OtherLittleGuy [BareFark]
2010-06-19 12:52:48 PM  
I got a rock!
 
metametameta
2010-06-19 12:55:29 PM  
In Hawaii, we take our rocks very seriously. At least it wasn't fragile, historical remains stolen from the Bishop Museum and left to rot in a wet cave this time.

/lived there 30 years.
 
pla
2010-06-19 12:57:08 PM  
pudgyv : Idolitors fighting over a rock. The ultimate waste of time and emotion.

I personally feel much safer with dangerously stupid people like that arguing over a rock rather than learning how to fly airplanes into buildings.

Though yeah, stories like this make me want to put the damned thing in an industrial crusher and sell each moron their own personal packet of holy gravel.
 
pla
2010-06-19 1:04:18 PM  
deciusmaximus : Yes, round them up. Put them in camps. Reeducate those religious bastards. They have had ENOUGH freedom. Take their kids, teach them the TRUTH as only we know it. If the parents don't give up their lying religious ways then BURN THEM AT THE STAKE. This is the price of telling lies about skywizards and zombie carpenters. Crusades! Inquisition! They are all complicit in the crimes of religion. Either by action or by THOUGHT! They must be punished.

Whether you mean that sarcastically or not - "Turnabout is fair play". Those of us who don't go on psychosis-inspired killing sprees (or in this case, "merely" vandalism and theft) grow increasingly tired of humoring those who do. If you can't control your own, society needs to do it for you.
 
Benevolent Misanthrope [TotalFark]
2010-06-19 1:09:17 PM  
...and yet people refuse to correlate believing in the magical powers of a rock with believing in the magical powers of an imaginary friend.
 
whammer
2010-06-19 1:11:49 PM  
Next up in the quarter finals:

1) Kyrgyz v. Uzbeks
2) Aborigines v. Celts
3) Zoroastrians v. Amish
4) Aleut v. Ainu
5) Apache v. Cossack
 
dervish16108
2010-06-19 1:20:13 PM  

Bondith: dervish16108
The worshippers in question are Shaivites. They believe Shiva is God in a very similar sense that the Abrahamic religions believe in Jesus, Allah, Yahweh, etc. They wont worship any of the millions of demigods instead of Shiva, but they might offer worship to some demigods when appropriate once proper worship is given to Shiva.

This is Fark. Your facts, tolerance and understanding are not welcome here.

Seriously, though, is Hinduism polytheistic or is it actually pantheistic, where all the various gods and things are all aspects of The One or something?


Hinduism is vast. So you'd have to examine all four major sects (Vaishnavism, Shaivism, Shaktiism, and Smartaism) to have a better understanding. Vaishnavism and Shaivism are certainly monotheistic. In Vaishnavism, Krishna, or Vishnu (depending on which sampradaya of Vaishnavism) is "The One". In Shaivism, Shiva is "The One". The other "gods", I would rather use the term "demigods", they are organs of "The One". They are all fulfilling tasks to maintain the universe.

Shaktiism believes in the Divine Mother, and Smartaism believes that God is ultimately impersonal. Versus, say, Vaishnavism for instance which believes God's impersonal form is ultimately subservient to His personal form.
 
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2010-06-19 1:31:42 PM  
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dervish16108
2010-06-19 1:38:45 PM  
In addendum, this isn't the first time that the stone relic of another religion was perceived to be a Shiva Lingam. There are more than a few Shaivites who believe that the Black Stone within the Kaaba of Mecca (The Muslim Holy Site) is a Shiva Lingam. Of course, I've never heard of any Shaivites attempting to go to Saudi Arabia to worship it!
 
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