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2010-06-13 04:42:14 PM  
What? No Ayn Rand?
 
2010-06-13 04:45:54 PM  

shivashakti: What? No Ayn Rand?


And I think we're done.
 
2010-06-13 04:50:26 PM  
strangely absent: Bible, Koran, Talmud, Twilight.
 
2010-06-13 04:57:15 PM  

calbert: strangely absent: Bible, Koran, Talmud, Twilight.


Twilight is different - it inspires the desire to mass murder followers OF the book as opposed to those who DON'T.
 
2010-06-13 05:33:03 PM  

shivashakti: What? No Ayn Rand?


Any list like that without Atlas Shrugged on it is a list of pure FAIL.
 
2010-06-13 05:33:08 PM  

calbert: strangely absent: Bible, Koran, Talmud, Twilight.

THIS THIS THIS

what, no voting enabled in thread??
EPIC FAIL
 
2010-06-13 05:34:12 PM  

shivashakti: What? No Ayn Rand?


calbert: strangely absent: Bible, Koran, Talmud, Twilight.


You farkers stole my comments.
 
2010-06-13 05:36:27 PM  
Studies have shown that books that appeal to nut cases are among the most stolen from libraries.
 
2010-06-13 06:03:05 PM  
Does "whatever Oprah is peddling" count for these purposes?
 
2010-06-13 06:07:25 PM  

namatad: calbert: strangely absent: Bible, Koran, Talmud, Twilight.
THIS THIS THIS

what, no voting enabled in thread??
EPIC FAIL


It said "Greatest Books."
 
2010-06-13 06:15:57 PM  
I see what you did there, ?subby.
 
2010-06-13 06:16:51 PM  

HairBolus: Studies have shown that books that appeal to nut cases are among the most stolen from libraries.


When I go to a library I haven't been to before, I like to fan through the library's copies of Origin of Species and other evolution-related books. It's not uncommon to find nutty religious tracts tucked in between the pages. They're usually lulz-worthy.
 
2010-06-13 06:24:30 PM  

oldebayer: Any list like that without Atlas Shrugged on it is a list of pure FAIL.


Seriously.

Also I think they're reallllly stretching it to say that somehow Japanese "roricon" has anything at all to do with being fans of Nabokov's book. The word is from "Lolita complex," sure, but I think it was adopted at that stage directly from English, already "pre-digested" if you will.

I've seen modern websites touting the pro-life message of "Horton Hears A Who" though. There are t-shirts and everything.
 
2010-06-13 06:26:11 PM  

bluetrain343: shivashakti: What? No Ayn Rand?

And I think we're done.


Last one out - get the lights
 
2010-06-13 07:42:45 PM  
Sorry, Douglas Adams. Your books were great, and your fans are, indeed, psychotic. Just not psychotic enough.

/you might even say the fans are...
//"mostly harmless."
 
2010-06-13 10:54:44 PM  

oldebayer: shivashakti: What? No Ayn Rand?

Any list like that without Atlas Shrugged on it is a list of pure FAIL.


I don't think you're saying what you think you're saying. In the structure of TFA, that would imply that Atlas Shrugged was a misunderstood magnum opus, and the psychotic followers would not be those who agreed with her but rather social-con Republicans who cite her despite her having passionately hated social conservatism.

/Rand was a crazy biatch
//and she was wrong most of the time
///but she did get a few important things right
 
2010-06-13 11:03:47 PM  
RON PAUL!!!

RAND PAUL!!!!

AYN RAND!!!!
 
2010-06-13 11:17:15 PM  

Churchill2004: oldebayer: shivashakti: What? No Ayn Rand?

Any list like that without Atlas Shrugged on it is a list of pure FAIL.

I don't think you're saying what you think you're saying. In the structure of TFA, that would imply that Atlas Shrugged was a misunderstood magnum opus, and the psychotic followers would not be those who agreed with her but rather social-con Republicans who cite her despite her having passionately hated social conservatism.

/Rand was a crazy biatch
//and she was wrong most of the time
///but she did get a few important things right


And I think that TFA was about people misinterpreting books to justify their own lives/political positions, in ways the author of those books obviously did not intend. I mean, using LOTR as a pro-Nazi allegory is just insane.

Psychopathic business types who use Atlas Shrugged as their philosophical justification for raping the world and farking people over, however, are getting exactly what Rand meant. They're not misinterpreting that novel. They're taking it to the logical end that Rand created.
 
2010-06-13 11:17:42 PM  

shivashakti: What? No Ayn Rand?


And 500 Farkers, including myself, just said "awww crap what do I post now"
 
2010-06-13 11:18:48 PM  
Cracked links should get their own Seanbaby tag, because I don't care much to read it unless it's Seanbaby.
 
2010-06-13 11:21:54 PM  
most of you know that 'Bioshock' was fictional, right?
 
2010-06-13 11:22:34 PM  
I was expecting to see Fight Club on that list, fanned by "Elitist college students and some faculty"
 
2010-06-13 11:23:09 PM  
*uh, spoiler, but seriously you haven't already read Lolita? Go read it, man*

Everyone dies in Lolita? I believe Lolita is still alive, as well as Humbert Humbert at the end. The only ones I can remember dying were Lolita's mother and Quilty.
 
2010-06-13 11:25:34 PM  
What, no Audacity of Hope?
 
2010-06-13 11:25:42 PM  
If we want to get serious, how about Das Kapital and the megalomaniacs who used the economic theory into a means to step into dictatorial positions? Stalin, Kim Il Sung, Pol Pot, Mao.
 
2010-06-13 11:26:19 PM  
farking cracked. Get off my lawn.
 
2010-06-13 11:26:30 PM  

dj_spanmaster: I was expecting to see Fight Club on that list, fanned by "Elitist college students and some faculty"


It is, it's just called "Catcher in the Rye."
 
2010-06-13 11:26:32 PM  

Lanctwa: What, no Audacity of Hope?


That doesn't have psychotic fans. Just pstupid fans.
 
2010-06-13 11:26:56 PM  
I would agree that Rand has not been misinterpreted. I thought LOTR would be among the list and was not disappointed to see it as the first item.
 
2010-06-13 11:28:33 PM  
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2010-06-13 11:29:34 PM  
Read the first entry, on LOTR and the Nazis, containing "The only hidden meaning to Lord of the Rings as confirmed by the author is the horror of rapid industrial expansion at the expense of nature. Which pretty much opposes the policies of the Nazi party completely. Whatever else they were, they were not "green."


See, already wrong. They were so damn big on green that when the first green parties emerged after WW2, they were suspected of being Neo-Nazis.
 
2010-06-13 11:30:53 PM  

BadAnalogyGuy: *uh, spoiler, but seriously you haven't already read Lolita? Go read it, man*

Everyone dies in Lolita? I believe Lolita is still alive, as well as Humbert Humbert at the end. The only ones I can remember dying were Lolita's mother and Quilty.


Lolita dies in childbirth.
 
2010-06-13 11:31:43 PM  

BadAnalogyGuy: *uh, spoiler, but seriously you haven't already read Lolita? Go read it, man*

Everyone dies in Lolita? I believe Lolita is still alive, as well as Humbert Humbert at the end. The only ones I can remember dying were Lolita's mother and Quilty.


You might want to reread it. Humbert dies of Coronary thrombosis and Lolita dies during childbirth. I believe that was mentioned in the forward though so technically they die in the beginning? Maybe i need to reread it too.
 
2010-06-13 11:32:00 PM  

jake_lex: Churchill2004: oldebayer: shivashakti: What? No Ayn Rand?

Any list like that without Atlas Shrugged on it is a list of pure FAIL.

I don't think you're saying what you think you're saying. In the structure of TFA, that would imply that Atlas Shrugged was a misunderstood magnum opus, and the psychotic followers would not be those who agreed with her but rather social-con Republicans who cite her despite her having passionately hated social conservatism.

/Rand was a crazy biatch
//and she was wrong most of the time
///but she did get a few important things right

And I think that TFA was about people misinterpreting books to justify their own lives/political positions, in ways the author of those books obviously did not intend. I mean, using LOTR as a pro-Nazi allegory is just insane.

Psychopathic business types who use Atlas Shrugged as their philosophical justification for raping the world and farking people over, however, are getting exactly what Rand meant. They're not misinterpreting that novel. They're taking it to the logical end that Rand created.


Actually, she condemned those types as they don't actually produce anything. Not saying she's a genius, but most of those we associate with her work would not have been people she approved of.
 
2010-06-13 11:32:54 PM  

SharkTrager: BadAnalogyGuy: *uh, spoiler, but seriously you haven't already read Lolita? Go read it, man*

Everyone dies in Lolita? I believe Lolita is still alive, as well as Humbert Humbert at the end. The only ones I can remember dying were Lolita's mother and Quilty.

Lolita dies in childbirth.


:-O

I guess I stopped reading after Lolita talks about "beastly boys" and I rubbed one out.

Maybe it's time to revisit it again.
 
2010-06-13 11:33:04 PM  

funk_soul_bubby: Cracked links should get their own Seanbaby tag, because I don't care much to read it unless it's Seanbaby.


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2010-06-13 11:33:12 PM  

shivashakti: What? No Ayn Rand?


Ayn Rand would have been obvious, maybe too obvious. I kinda like cracked for going with the not so obvious sometimes.
 
2010-06-13 11:34:08 PM  

jake_lex: Psychopathic business types who use Atlas Shrugged as their philosophical justification for raping the world and farking people over, however, are getting exactly what Rand meant. They're not misinterpreting that novel. They're taking it to the logical end that Rand created


You've got it exactly backwards. The bad guys in Atlas Shrugged are not the poor- they're the rich plutocrats who get their wealth through destructive political means as opposed to productive economic means. I think Rand took the elevation of self-interest way too far, but her point was most certainly not to justify theft and plunder because the criminals are being admirably non-altruistic. If anything, she somewhat idolized manual labor and simple blue-collar competence, and the super-rich Galt-types in her books often took such jobs to show that it was productivity vs. "mooching" that was her beef, not elevating the rich over the poor. Galt's Gulch was not the hide-away of the fantastically wealthy fleeing from the plundered masses, and construing it as such is a gross misunderstanding of what she was trying to say.

There are a lot of very valid criticisms of Rand, but that the current status quo is what she wanted is not among them.
 
2010-06-13 11:34:51 PM  

Carth: BadAnalogyGuy: *uh, spoiler, but seriously you haven't already read Lolita? Go read it, man*

Everyone dies in Lolita? I believe Lolita is still alive, as well as Humbert Humbert at the end. The only ones I can remember dying were Lolita's mother and Quilty.

You might want to reread it. Humbert dies of Coronary thrombosis and Lolita dies during childbirth. I believe that was mentioned in the forward though so technically they die in the beginning? Maybe i need to reread it too.


BTW, apropos of nothing, I think this is one of the best written English language novels ever written. It feels like there isn't a single word or sentence wasted or out of place. Each word works to advance the plot and there is not a single word wasted.

My opinion, of course.
 
2010-06-13 11:35:17 PM  
Just wait till all the Harry Potter fans start littering the streets with hooker parts.
 
2010-06-13 11:35:43 PM  
I am assuming that The Bell Jar was left out because it is not a great book, but if measuring the psychoticness of it's fan base it should be number one.
 
2010-06-13 11:36:30 PM  
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2010-06-13 11:36:45 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: shivashakti: What? No Ayn Rand?

And 500 Farkers, including myself, just said "awww crap what do I post now"


Um you can post "THIS"

Or expand on the idea of how bad the book is. Not just because it's conservitive porn it's just a bad book.
 
2010-06-13 11:41:07 PM  
Weaver95: "most of you know that 'Bioshock' was fictional, right?"

Yeah but the fallout from the past decade of deregulation sure isn't.
 
2010-06-13 11:42:23 PM  

shivashakti: What? No Ayn Rand?


To be fair, it's "Greatest books". I don't think even Ms. Rand herself would put her work up against "Catcher in the Rye" or "Lolita" or "Lord of the Rings".

Nice threadjack, though, I guess.

SharkTrager:
Actually, she condemned those types as they don't actually produce anything. Not saying she's a genius, but most of those we associate with her work would not have been people she approved of.


The best description of the protagonist of "Atlas Shrugged" that I've heard is "a man with the amazing talent to pay other people to invent new metals".

Similarly, in "The Fountainhead", the hero was an architect. He didn't even engineer his own designs (i.e. the difficult part of designing a building, or anything else) and he certainly didn't actually produce anything.

The whole "man is entitled to the sweat of his won brow" thing would have rung a bit truer if there were any sweat involved whatsoever. Her heroes are invariably people who don't actually contribute anything themselves, but make money off the work of others. So, basically, reading the books will lead to more "hey, maybe Marx had a point" thoughts than actual agreement with her non-fiction essays.
 
2010-06-13 11:43:07 PM  

therecksays: Um you can post "THIS"

Or expand on the idea of how bad the book is. Not just because it's conservitive porn it's just a bad book.


What really irked me was how Rand tried to set herself up as the only philosopher to ever use the novel format to explain her theories. However even her contemporary Sartre had already published his philosophical novel Nausea a good 5 years before The Fountainhead, but even in her later writings she would insist that she was the first and only philosopher to have done so. Whether it was due to hubris or insecurity or worse simple ignorance, her claim is preposterous and she comes off as a liar.
 
2010-06-13 11:43:52 PM  
Whoa, crazy. Christopher Walker killed himself about 10 miles away from where I grew up, in the middle of nowhere northern New Hampshire. Although it was about a year before we actually moved there. Didn't know about the book thing.

/cool story bro
 
2010-06-13 11:44:30 PM  

Zamboro: Weaver95: "most of you know that 'Bioshock' was fictional, right?"

Yeah but the fallout from the past decade of deregulation sure isn't.


deregulation wasn't the problem - letting corporations bribe members of congress is what got us into trouble.
 
2010-06-13 11:44:57 PM  

therecksays: Not just because it's conservitive porn


This is where Atlas Shrugged actually would have worked in the context of TFA. Rand would have angrily corrected anyone who called her a "conservative" (or a "libertarian" for that matter, though that's a much closer summation of her politics). To see a conservative message in Atlas Shrugged almost misses the mark as much as seeing pro-Nazi allegory in Lord of the Rings.

therecksays: it's just a bad book.


It's a compelling story poorly written. People like that kind of anti-authoritarian story of rebellion, which is why you see it used so often and so successfully.
 
2010-06-13 11:45:30 PM  

shivashakti: What? No Ayn Rand?


Why is posting in this thread still enabled?
 
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