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(Concord Monitor)   Girl raped by Baptist church member, forced to apologize to congregation, relocated out of state to avoid scandal. "He told me that I should be happy that I didn't live in Old Testament times because I would have been stoned."   (concordmonitor.com) divider line
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2010-05-31 9:51:00 AM  
That story is so farked up I don't even know how to begin....
 
2010-05-31 10:04:08 AM  
FTFA "Then Pastor Phelps would give a few closing remarks and then a vote would be taken to remove the guilty party from membership or to keep them in membership but under discipline, or something to that effect."

The lucky people in these instances are the ones voted out of the church.
 
2010-05-31 10:09:18 AM  
Anyone else notice how much law enforcement ignores/covers up crimes by the church?
 
2010-05-31 10:14:41 AM  
Pastor Phelps?
 
2010-05-31 10:27:41 AM  
If a homeless man talks to god he is clearly crazy, if a man in a suite talks to god then he is pious. The only real solution to this kind of behavior is to treat religion like the mental disease it is. When a child is brainwashed to the extent that the mind becomes closed to reason then all that is left is the unreasonable.
 
2010-05-31 10:29:43 AM  

Kyosuke: Pastor Phelps?


At least it was straight sex.
 
2010-05-31 10:33:09 AM  

swaniefrmreddeer: If a homeless man talks to god he is clearly crazy, if a man in a suite talks to god then he is pious. The only real solution to this kind of behavior is to treat religion like the mental disease it is. When a child is brainwashed to the extent that the mind becomes closed to reason then all that is left is the unreasonable.


A man who talks to god is not crazy. A man who expects an answer is crazy.

A man who claims to have been talked to by god is after your money.
 
2010-05-31 10:39:05 AM  
From one of the comments in the article. The Catholic Church structure has made traceability more possible with them. They track their own priests. In Fundamentalisms amorphous structure (which they say is Biblical, but a single reading of the book of Acts of the Apostleas in the New Testament shows their radical independence is NOT the Biblical model), child molesting preachers and members are not tracked. There is no way to count them. Men prey upon kids and then disappear and reappear at another church. Not a thing is done about them, and nobody is even warned.


If I'm reading this right, this woman is saying that the Catholics are better because they track their pedophile priests better then the Fundamentalists track their pedophile pastors.
 
2010-05-31 10:40:01 AM  

Kyosuke: A man who talks to god is not crazy. A man who expects an answer is crazy.

A man who claims to have been talked to by god is after your money.


Almost every religious person out there claims to have had prayers answered, which requires the rejection of rational answers and a jump in logic to the unreasonable supernatural, that is mental illness.
 
2010-05-31 10:43:36 AM  
Praise the lord.
 
2010-05-31 10:45:51 AM  
Praise the lard.
 
2010-05-31 10:47:09 AM  
Raise the Bard
 
2010-05-31 10:48:53 AM  
Haze the Tard
 
2010-05-31 10:51:11 AM  

swaniefrmreddeer: Kyosuke: A man who talks to god is not crazy. A man who expects an answer is crazy.

A man who claims to have been talked to by god is after your money.

Almost every religious person out there claims to have had prayers answered, which requires the rejection of rational answers and a jump in logic to the unreasonable supernatural, that is mental illness.


I don't think spiritual belief is a mental illness. That's different from organized religion, though.
 
2010-05-31 11:07:09 AM  
Taze the Hard
 
2010-05-31 11:08:47 AM  

coco ebert: I don't think spiritual belief is a mental illness. That's different from organized religion, though.


If some one has a conversation with a statue, people would think, rightly so, that he is crazy, but if some on has a conversation with a soap stain that vaguely resembles the virgin mary that is not crazy? I'm not to sure where the line is between the two. The brains of the religious have been rewired to reject the logical, simple answers, instead accepting the illogical, insanely complicated answers, how is that not mental illness?
 
2010-05-31 11:12:18 AM  

swaniefrmreddeer: Kyosuke: A man who talks to god is not crazy. A man who expects an answer is crazy.

A man who claims to have been talked to by god is after your money.

Almost every religious person out there claims to have had prayers answered, which requires the rejection of rational answers and a jump in logic to the unreasonable supernatural, that is mental illness.


being irrational = mental illness?
 
2010-05-31 11:14:27 AM  

Kyosuke: swaniefrmreddeer: If a homeless man talks to god he is clearly crazy, if a man in a suite talks to god then he is pious. The only real solution to this kind of behavior is to treat religion like the mental disease it is. When a child is brainwashed to the extent that the mind becomes closed to reason then all that is left is the unreasonable.

A man who talks to god is not crazy. A man who expects an answer is crazy.

A man who claims to have been talked to by god is after your money.


You know that if Jesus really did come back today he'd be treated as mentally ill and thrown in an asylum. The only difference between the mentally ill and a prophet is a prophet gets listened to.
 
2010-05-31 11:30:57 AM  
After being raped and impregnated by a fellow churchgoer more than twice her age, a 15-year-old Concord girl was forced by Trinity Baptist Church leaders to stand before the congregation to apologize before they helped whisk her out of state, according to the police.

we do this in regular court as well. this was just a bit more private and bible oriented.
 
2010-05-31 11:31:05 AM  

cmunic8r99:
being irrational = mental illness?


Mental illness definition: Any of various conditions characterized by impairment of an individual's normal cognitive, emotional, or behavioral functioning, and caused by social, psychological, biochemical, genetic, or other factors, such as infection or head trauma. Also called emotional illness, mental disease, Also called mental disorder.

Irrational definition: Irrationality is cognition, thinking, talking or acting without inclusion of rationality. The term is used, usually pejoratively, to describe thinking and actions that are, or appear to be, less useful or illogical than other more rational alternatives.

So yes being irrational is mental illness.
 
2010-05-31 11:47:37 AM  
I hope those who helped sweep this under the rug are charged too.

But, why would they? Why charge adults for the crimes they commit so long as there is a church to help protect them.

Hell, if they won't do anything about bishops who protect child diddlers and then become pope, what can we possible hope to achieve in protecting children?
 
2010-05-31 11:49:45 AM  
"He asked me if I wanted him to take me to a neighboring state where underage abortions were legal . . . and he would pay for an abortion," she told the police. "He then asked me if I wanted him to punch me in the stomach as hard as he could because that might cause a miscarriage."

She declined both.


And this has been another Great Moments in Newspaper Reporting.
 
2010-05-31 11:53:24 AM  

zekebullseye: That story is so farked up I don't even know how to begin....


kill everyone in the congregation and give all their belongings to her as reparations?

that pretty much solves that
 
2010-05-31 11:55:04 AM  
Taze the Tard.
 
2010-05-31 12:03:09 PM  

swaniefrmreddeer: coco ebert: I don't think spiritual belief is a mental illness. That's different from organized religion, though.

If some one has a conversation with a statue, people would think, rightly so, that he is crazy, but if some on has a conversation with a soap stain that vaguely resembles the virgin mary that is not crazy? I'm not to sure where the line is between the two. The brains of the religious have been rewired to reject the logical, simple answers, instead accepting the illogical, insanely complicated answers, how is that not mental illness?


I can't address your example because I don't think that way. I also don't view rational/irrational as a strict binary and I think our ideas of what constitutes mental illness is already bound up in certain cultural assumptions.

I just think there is most likely a biological basis to spirituality seeing as humans for millennia have felt connections to beings that are not visible and are omniscient in ways we are not. Scientists are also studying the causes of spiritual belief. Anyone who claims to be interested in science should be intrigued by spiritual belief.
 
2010-05-31 12:03:28 PM  
At least they aren't Catholic.
What's wrong with being stoned anyway?
Yeah, this shiat goes on waaaay more in the protestant denominations than ever gets reported, or at least as often.
What' wrong with being stoned?
Dude wait, what?

\\Pass The Loot
 
2010-05-31 12:06:37 PM  
What is it with kids these days? Get a little rape and they fall to pieces. Why, I was raped going to school. Uphill. Both ways. While it was snowing. Barefoot. And when I got home, my dad would rape me until he was tired and went to bed and he made me stay up raping myself.
 
2010-05-31 12:19:12 PM  

coco ebert: swaniefrmreddeer: coco ebert: I don't think spiritual belief is a mental illness. That's different from organized religion, though.

If some one has a conversation with a statue, people would think, rightly so, that he is crazy, but if some on has a conversation with a soap stain that vaguely resembles the virgin mary that is not crazy? I'm not to sure where the line is between the two. The brains of the religious have been rewired to reject the logical, simple answers, instead accepting the illogical, insanely complicated answers, how is that not mental illness?

I can't address your example because I don't think that way. I also don't view rational/irrational as a strict binary and I think our ideas of what constitutes mental illness is already bound up in certain cultural assumptions.

I just think there is most likely a biological basis to spirituality seeing as humans for millennia have felt connections to beings that are not visible and are omniscient in ways we are not. Scientists are also studying the causes of spiritual belief. Anyone who claims to be interested in science should be intrigued by spiritual belief.


I am intrigued by spiritual belief, just like I am intrigued by cancer or any other disease that has plagued human kind through out the ages. Spirituality just happens to be an easier fix than other diseases, stop brainwashing children! I don't get this whole "We have believed in a magic sky man for eons so there must be something to it" argument, in society we have abandoned so many of our evolutionary traits in a effort to function as a cohesive group and religion/spirituality is one of the last obstacles in bringing man together.
 
2010-05-31 12:19:46 PM  

stonner: Taze the Hard


Too late. He already raped her.
 
2010-05-31 12:40:00 PM  
They reformed the Catholic Church's process, I see.
 
2010-05-31 12:40:05 PM  
The Baptist church is the rape church of rape.
 
2010-05-31 12:44:09 PM  
Well, everyone knows that getting raped leads to dancing. We can't have that.
 
2010-05-31 12:47:01 PM  

I_C_Weener: Well, everyone knows that getting raped leads to dancing. We can't have that.


Trying to shake out the pastor batter is NOT dancing.
 
2010-05-31 12:48:20 PM  
See what happens when you vilify sex.
 
2010-05-31 12:53:24 PM  
Maybe it's not church church.

Rufus_T_Firefly: See what happens when you vilify sex.


It turns you into dogshiat on the shoe of humanity?
 
2010-05-31 1:04:21 PM  
These people can call themselves whatever they want, but they're not Christians.
 
2010-05-31 1:04:26 PM  
Matthew 12:33 "Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit."

So, according to the standard given in the Bible, this shows that the tree of Christianity is bad.

swaniefrmreddeer: If some one has a conversation with a statue, people would think, rightly so, that he is crazy, but if some on has a conversation with a soap stain that vaguely resembles the virgin mary that is not crazy? I'm not to sure where the line is between the two.


In one, it's the individual that's insane; in the other, it's the society.
 
2010-05-31 1:06:02 PM  
I don't think there's a facepalm big enough to convey my reaction to this.
 
2010-05-31 1:07:49 PM  
I hate this shiat so much. Why do evil horrible people hide behind the church to cover up their crimes? It makes them look like crazies, and then it makes the rest of the church look like crazies too, especially when we cover up for them.

I hate it. Its a crappy time to claim "I'm a Christian!" I understand why you all hate us so much, when it seems everywhere you look people say "I'm a Christian, so I can do what I want!"

Fuuuuuu
 
2010-05-31 1:08:08 PM  
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2010-05-31 1:09:22 PM  
Religion once again.

/We are soooo-o small in this wonderful Universe
 
2010-05-31 1:10:48 PM  

Adman12: These people can call themselves whatever they want, but they're not Christians.


This.
 
2010-05-31 1:10:52 PM  
I grew up attending a small southern baptist church. For the first part I remember, it was a great church with an older man has pastor who preached love thy brother in all his forms. It was mostly older folks attending the church with very few members under 40.

Then a group of family's joined us after leaving another church because of disagreements. At first it was great, 8 or 9 younger families with some more kids my age!

They started taking over the church and before long they had kicked out the old pastor and one of them took over. From that day on it was all hellfire preaching. Boiled down to was everyone not of this church is going to hell.

I stopped going at age 16 and haven't looked at religion as an answer since.


/Nothing to do with article, I'm just at work, very bored and in a story telling mode.
 
2010-05-31 1:10:57 PM  
Religion of Piece.
 
2010-05-31 1:11:33 PM  
funny the same parts of the bible that say raped women should be stoned to death are the same as those that current conservatives use to say the bible says homosexuality is evil.

Why is it they get to pick and choose based on politics?
 
2010-05-31 1:11:40 PM  
This thread is useless without pics.
 
2010-05-31 1:11:47 PM  
If she apologized for being raped in front of every church member, and none of them reported it (she was underage, after all), doesn't that make them all accomplices or whatnot (knowing about a crime and not reporting it)?

I left my GED of law at home.
 
2010-05-31 1:12:11 PM  

abb3w: Matthew 12:33 "Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit."

So, according to the standard given in the Bible, this shows that the tree of Christianity is bad.

swaniefrmreddeer: If some one has a conversation with a statue, people would think, rightly so, that he is crazy, but if some on has a conversation with a soap stain that vaguely resembles the virgin mary that is not crazy? I'm not to sure where the line is between the two.

In one, it's the individual that's insane; in the other, it's the society.


We'd refer to these people as 'bad apples' but to claim these instances reflect upon a religion that comprises 1/3 of the population is delusional.
 
2010-05-31 1:12:14 PM  
Religion of peace, indeed
 
2010-05-31 1:12:15 PM  

snake_beater: I don't think there's a facepalm big enough to convey my reaction to this.


How about...
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