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2010-05-26 8:02:56 PM  
I fully support this. Along with registering every firearm and documenting every bag of fertilizer.
 
2010-05-26 8:19:26 PM  
Maybe we should all just be kept chained to chairs, naked. With catheters.
 
2010-05-26 8:19:31 PM  
How about addressing the underlying causes of terrorism? What? We burned those bridges? Oh.

Carry on
 
2010-05-26 8:19:47 PM  

OregonVet: and


Then move to California.

All of those rules are already in place. It's your communist paradise!
 
2010-05-26 8:20:07 PM  
Mexico tried to make every register their phones, I believe a large number of people registered their phones in the name of the president.
 
2010-05-26 8:20:40 PM  

Oblio13: Maybe we should all just be kept chained to chairs, naked. With catheters.


Wow. Your sex life sure is messed up. Were you abused as a child?
 
2010-05-26 8:21:05 PM  
There is no way national security is more important than my right to anonymous communication. I can say that because I don't live in DC, NYC, or LA, but in South Dakota, which is so boring a terrorist attack here might actually save lives by lowering the suicide rate.
 
2010-05-26 8:21:12 PM  
So I have to present ID at Walmart when I buy one of these phones, even though Walmart has shiat to do with activation/use of the phone?

Sure, makes about as much sense as carding me for coffee, which they do already.
 
2010-05-26 8:22:55 PM  

Nem Wan: There is no way national security is more important than my right to anonymous communication. I can say that because I don't live in DC, NYC, or LA, but in South Dakota, which is so boring a terrorist attack here might actually save lives by lowering the suicide rate.


Now that's funny. :)
 
2010-05-26 8:24:58 PM  
Around here, the people buying these throw away phones are illegal aliens phoning home to Mexico. This should work great.
 
2010-05-26 8:25:38 PM  
I think it should be a law that all cell phone transmissions be quantum encrypted.
 
2010-05-26 8:27:15 PM  
you know, somehow i think people bent on wresting the world away from the wealthy 1% who own the cops and the army will manage to communicate with one another no matter how miserable you make the lives of everybody else in the country.

or at least i hope so.
 
2010-05-26 8:27:26 PM  
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2010-05-26 8:30:18 PM  

mrEdude: you know, somehow i think people bent on wresting the world away from the wealthy 1% who own the cops and the army will manage to communicate with one another no matter how miserable you make the lives of everybody else in the country.

or at least i hope so.


You sound fatwa
 
2010-05-26 8:31:04 PM  

bmihura: OregonVet: and

Then move to California.

All of those rules are already in place. It's your communist paradise!


I live in California, and regularly use a prepaid cell phone and cards to refill my minutes, all WITHOUT the benefit of providing any sort of ID. Unless cash is considered ID these days
 
BHK
2010-05-26 8:32:46 PM  
Your speech is free, comrade, so long as you register your means of communications with the appropriate authorities.
 
2010-05-26 8:36:06 PM  
Hassling law-abiding citizens while doing nothing to curtail actual terrorism? Who do they think they are, the TSA?

Clete Orris: Oblio13: Maybe we should all just be kept chained to chairs, naked. With catheters.

Wow. Your sex life sure is messed up. Were you abused as a child?


One man's trash is another man's "hot DAMN! that's good eatin!"
 
2010-05-26 8:37:10 PM  
Some popular aliases:

M'Balz Es-Hari
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2010-05-26 8:41:09 PM  
Rose of Sharon: Hassling law-abiding citizens while doing nothing to curtail actual terrorism? Who do they think they are, the TSA?

Clete Orris: Oblio13: Maybe we should all just be kept chained to chairs, naked. With catheters.

Wow. Your sex life sure is messed up. Were you abused as a child?

One man's trash is another man's "hot DAMN! that's good eatin!"


add a hot dominatrix with a riding crop and a crank telephone and it sounds like a good time.
 
2010-05-26 8:41:24 PM  
Soooo.... they go back to using payphones and beepers? Granted they are fewer now then they used to be, but what the hell.
 
Biv
2010-05-26 8:41:50 PM  

Stanfan114: How about addressing the underlying causes of terrorism?


Islam?

Yup, your right. Too many of them.
 
2010-05-26 8:42:21 PM  
Most of the people who buy prepaid phones at our store are either: methheads, old folks who refuse to learn how to use them, or 16 year olds.
 
2010-05-26 8:46:33 PM  

Archfeld: bmihura: OregonVet: and

Then move to California.

All of those rules are already in place. It's your communist paradise!

I live in California, and regularly use a prepaid cell phone and cards to refill my minutes, all WITHOUT the benefit of providing any sort of ID. Unless cash is considered ID these days


yes, but they do make us show ID for buying compressed air at Office Max. So, there is that.

I love California and would still rather live here than most places (and I've lived in quite a few places!), but it is indeed wacky here, no denying.
 
2010-05-26 8:46:57 PM  
I think all the Libruls need to get on the bandwagon and start protesting this obviously racist bill. As mentioned already, many illegals from Mexico use them and we wouldn't want to pick and choose what bills or laws that negatively impact them to protest lest the Republitards start screaming hypocrite.
 
2010-05-26 8:49:38 PM  

Archfeld: bmihura: OregonVet: and

Then move to California.

All of those rules are already in place. It's your communist paradise!

I live in California, and regularly use a prepaid cell phone and cards to refill my minutes, all WITHOUT the benefit of providing any sort of ID. Unless cash is considered ID these days


You're right about cell phones, that's now law yet in Cali.

But you do have to register a gun in Cali; very few states have that requirement.
 
2010-05-26 8:49:53 PM  

Biv: Stanfan114: How about addressing the underlying causes of terrorism?

Islam?

Yup, your right. Too many of them.


Flavor of the month my friend. I would say, "religious and nationalist fanaticism" but currently radical Islam is a handy if incomplete description of the issue.
 
2010-05-26 8:51:55 PM  
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Does not approve.
 
2010-05-26 8:56:21 PM  
Hey, kid, I'll trade you some liquor for a cell phone.
 
2010-05-26 8:57:15 PM  

strathmeyer: Hey, kid, I'll trade you some liquor for a cell phone.


The Free Market at work!
 
2010-05-26 9:01:32 PM  
This is why I use smoke signals.
 
2010-05-26 9:02:56 PM  
as someone who uses trap phones, i am not amused.
 
2010-05-26 9:08:09 PM  
India did something similar.
 
2010-05-26 9:08:16 PM  
Oblio13
Maybe we should all just be kept chained to chairs, naked. With catheters


That's in my job description.

Yeah. Yeah. Lucky to be working.
 
2010-05-26 9:13:33 PM  
Next step will be registering e-mail accounts. Didn't the terrists have an e-mail account where the biggest baddest terrist would write a message, save it in the Draft folder and share the account password with all the little terrists? All the li'l terrist would log in, read the Draft message and act evilly. Virtually untraceable since the message was never sent.
 
2010-05-26 9:14:11 PM  
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2010-05-26 9:15:54 PM  
When my credit card was stolen, I checked to see what they had purchased: prepaid cell phones and calling cards to India.
 
2010-05-26 9:26:14 PM  
Why do then need this law?

they caught the guy who recently used a prepaid phone to buy a car within like 24 hours or some shiat right?
 
2010-05-26 9:30:30 PM  

frizzantik: Why do then need this law?

they caught the guy who recently used a prepaid phone to buy a car within like 24 hours or some shiat right?



The key point is after the attack. This law will do nothing to prevent an attack. As a lot of terrorist these days are willing to die in the attempt, this law is utterly useless.
 
2010-05-26 9:31:35 PM  
Because there's no way this can be circumvented. Kinda like how no one who makes meth is able to obtain enough sudafed anymore and no kid under 21 is able to get alcohol.
 
2010-05-26 9:37:35 PM  
They can still listen in on pre-paid cell phones just like the terrorists and drug dealers know they can still get pre-paid phones without i.d. in places like California. Just go to your local Cantina. You get a woman with the purchase of an $8 dollar beer, I hear. That's what MSNBC told me. They also told me where and how to get asians to blow me at the massage parlors.

/Gotta watch the news.
 
2010-05-26 9:40:13 PM  
I'm pissed that I can't turn off the E911 on my BB.
I'm off to WlMrt to pick up a box of throw aways now.
 
2010-05-26 9:41:00 PM  
When somebody stole my credit card, something weird happened....

The person ordered lots of nickel and dime stuff, mostly cosmetics, vitamins, and anti-aging things for a 40 year old female, and she SENT IT ALL SENT TO MY HOUSE.

Wtf?

I have no use for any of that crap, as I'm a 44 year old male who lives alone, and I don't appear to be aging more than normal, so I donated it all to a charity place nearby.

The total fraud was about $500 or so for 20 or 30 products.

I wound up with a bunch of
 
2010-05-26 9:44:44 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: Next step will be registering e-mail accounts. Didn't the terrists have an e-mail account where the biggest baddest terrist would write a message, save it in the Draft folder and share the account password with all the little terrists? All the li'l terrist would log in, read the Draft message and act evilly. Virtually untraceable since the message was never sent.


Not that great. The information is still passed over the pipes when the message is written and read. It's just as vunerable as standard email.
 
2010-05-26 9:55:56 PM  

mrEdude: you know, somehow i think people bent on wresting the world away from the wealthy 1% who own the cops and the army will manage to communicate with one another no matter how miserable you make the lives of everybody else in the country.

or at least i hope so.


Beige Box or die in a fire.

All this bill will do is make a black market for pre-registration phones and make straw purchases commonplace, just like with alcohol and tobacco for minors. It's utterly useless at stopping crime.
 
Ral
2010-05-26 10:29:02 PM  

bmihura: But you do have to register a gun in Cali; very few states have that requirement.


Um. I've bought 3 guns in California and didn't have to register any of them. Yes, I bought them legally.
 
2010-05-26 10:32:41 PM  

mrEdude: you know, somehow i think people bent on wresting the world away from the wealthy 1% who own the cops and the army will manage to communicate with one another no matter how miserable you make the lives of everybody else in the country.

or at least i hope so.


The people trying to wrest the world away from the 1% of wealthy who own the cops and the army are the spoiled trust fund kids who will inherent the wealth when their rich parents die anyways.

The rest of us are too busy working for a living to fly first class to the next G20 meeting to protest, and if we tried to vandalize a McDonalds in order to protest fast food joints lowering property values "globalization", we would go to jail.

Stop trying to pretend to be one of us, rich boy!
 
2010-05-26 10:36:54 PM  
This will be bad news for pimps, prostitutes and drug dealers.

Used to do support for a pre-paid company. The database had thousands of entries for "Man, Bat" and "Jenkins, Leroy".
 
2010-05-26 10:55:11 PM  
Now how the fark am I supposed to call my supplier for my re-up?
 
2010-05-26 11:13:49 PM  
Along the lines of useless BS being asked when buying crap, I was purchasing some 22 LR at Wal*Mart, no ID needed as I looked over 18, but they did ask if I used it with a rifle or pistol.

Told them it was for tossing in a campfire and waiting for hilarity to ensue
 
2010-05-26 11:33:12 PM  

acchief: So I have to present ID at Walmart when I buy one of these phones, even though Walmart has shiat to do with activation/use of the phone?

Sure, makes about as much sense as carding me for coffee, which they do already.


??? Gotta hear the story behind that.

I got carded at target for canned air, after the transaction was completed i said to the cashier, "I'm gonna go out to the parking lot right now and huff the hell outa this, whatcha gonna do about it?". She gave me a rather disturbed but dumbstruck look before i walked off.
 
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