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(Reason Magazine)   The Pentagon's brownie recipe is 26 pages long - but unlike Obamacare or Operation Iraqi Freedom, when the recipe is implemented you actually will have brownies   (reason.com) divider line
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2010-05-18 11:19:23 AM  
The object of Obamacare and Operation Iraqi Freedom is to get brownies? Who knew?
 
2010-05-18 11:29:06 AM  
Heckuva job, Brownie!
 
2010-05-18 11:29:09 AM  
Bravo, Subby. Trollerific or genius headline? Fark, you be the judge.

\I vote genius.
 
2010-05-18 11:29:41 AM  
Heckuva job, Brownie.
 
2010-05-18 11:30:33 AM  

Phil the SWO: Bravo, Subby. Trollerific or genius headline? Fark, you be the judge.

\I vote genius.


It got greenlit. I vote trollerific.
 
2010-05-18 11:31:19 AM  
That's because you have to explain things VERY CAREFULLY to the kind of military folks who end up in food service.
 
2010-05-18 11:34:27 AM  

Morchella: The object of Obamacare and Operation Iraqi Freedom is to get brownies? Who knew?


This just shows how poor the Obama administration is at pushing for and selling their own policies.

Imagine how much better the healthcare debate would have been had we known that brownies were on the table.
 
2010-05-18 11:35:59 AM  
Brown guy!
 
2010-05-18 11:36:38 AM  
Oh god, the PDF is fantastic.

Literally 26 pages long, detailing how to make brownies and oatmeal cookies. Twenty-six pages long. Got to love Army Efficiency.
 
2010-05-18 11:36:39 AM  
it's unfortunate that business is so concerned with bottom line profits instead of pride of work that they would fark up brownie making if it wasn't for a document that explained in 26 page detail how it must be done to conform to specification.

go ahead, remove any page and give a contract to any business for 1 million brownies -- see how it comes out.
 
2010-05-18 11:38:30 AM  

Rincewind53: Oh god, the PDF is fantastic.

Literally 26 pages long, detailing how to make brownies and oatmeal cookies. Twenty-six pages long. Got to love Army Efficiency.


MIL spec is not "army efficiency" -- it is a set of standards used to meter whether a project is complete.

Go ahead and spend 2 billion on an airplane with out it -- see what happens.
 
2010-05-18 11:41:15 AM  
The brownies are a lie.
 
2010-05-18 11:41:33 AM  
Jesus. These farking headlines...
 
2010-05-18 11:42:34 AM  
The Weeners immediately derails the discussion into an argument over whether progressives like the Pentagon or not.

It's like I'm really reading Fark!
 
2010-05-18 11:42:34 AM  
As mentioned in TFA's comments, the 26 page recipe is to make sure that the mega-brownie making company and all its subsidiaries make brownies that are consistantly similar to all the other brownies. Nestle's and any other food manufacturer probably have similarly large recipe descriptions for the foods they make, too.
 
2010-05-18 11:42:58 AM  

Abner Doon: Morchella:
Imagine how much better the healthcare debate would have been had we known that brownies were on the table.


You say that until the question of nuts or no nuts comes up. Then about what kind of nuts.
 
2010-05-18 11:43:16 AM  

Jackson Herring: Jesus. These farking headlines...


do you challenge the accuracy of the headline?
 
2010-05-18 11:44:12 AM  

Morchella: The object of Obamacare and Operation Iraqi Freedom is to get brownies? Who knew?


Maybe the hash kind?
 
2010-05-18 11:44:39 AM  
The Pentagon's brownie recipe is 26 pages long wastes 1 Trillion a year on protecting america from the boogeyman.


keep 'em scared of idiots running around with underwear bombs and that Trillion/year keeps coming in.

god they love freedom!
 
2010-05-18 11:45:31 AM  
Who cares...we can still put a JDAM through a window from 22,000ft
 
2010-05-18 11:45:33 AM  
I guess subby has never had to write specs for contractor bids before.

Hint: It isn't progressivism that causes contractors to look for loopholes, thus forcing spec writers to have to resort to exhaustive detail to protect the legitimacy of the bid--it's the profit motive.
 
2010-05-18 11:46:57 AM  
I oppose this brownie recipe. Section 3 paragraph 2 clearly describes an extra layer of government bureaucracy that sits between me and my empty calories. No brownie death panels N0bama!
 
2010-05-18 11:47:51 AM  
Is that what you call a no-bid recipe?
 
2010-05-18 11:49:05 AM  
Obfuscation is also a handy tool to keep americans confused so that Trillion dollars a year of free tax money continues to be poured into the Pentagon so they can continue to play their war games and continue to keep americans scared of the boogeyman.


telephone companies do the same thing with your phone bill. even those who work for telcos can't decipher the bills.


ain't freedom great!
 
2010-05-18 11:49:28 AM  

thomps: Jackson Herring: Jesus. These farking headlines...

do you challenge the accuracy of the headline?


You mean Obama isn't your primary care physician now? This is what happens when you don't read the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy Metting minutes.
 
2010-05-18 11:50:11 AM  

Jackson Herring: thomps: Jackson Herring: Jesus. These farking headlines...

do you challenge the accuracy of the headline?

You mean Obama isn't your primary care physician now? This is what happens when you don't read the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy Metting minutes.


i'm just saying that there is no way that obamacare or operation iraqi freedom is going to end with me getting brownies.
 
2010-05-18 11:52:34 AM  
Whenever you see an analogy that panders to generic idiots, expect it to be disingenuous.
 
2010-05-18 11:54:26 AM  

cram_hole: The brownies are a lie.


I think you're refering to the CIA's yellowcake recipie.
 
2010-05-18 11:56:38 AM  
Bush would have withheld the brownies indefinitely.
 
2010-05-18 11:56:55 AM  

thomps: i'm just saying that there is no way that obamacare or operation iraqi freedom is going to end with me getting brownies.


I groaned with dismay audibly.
 
hej
2010-05-18 11:57:34 AM  
A+ subline, heady.
 
2010-05-18 11:57:37 AM  
I haven't seen a headline so poorly constructed since Caught Sayof School.
 
2010-05-18 12:00:00 PM  

Bendal: As mentioned in TFA's comments, the 26 page recipe is to make sure that the mega-brownie making company and all its subsidiaries make brownies that are consistantly similar to all the other brownies. Nestle's and any other food manufacturer probably have similarly large recipe descriptions for the foods they make, too.


Hell, Hostess modifies the recipe for twinkies 5 or 6 times a year to make sure that they maintain consistency despite seasonal changes in climate.
 
2010-05-18 12:03:30 PM  

Rincewind53: Oh god, the PDF is fantastic.

Literally 26 pages long, detailing how to make brownies and oatmeal cookies. Twenty-six pages long. Got to love Army Efficiency.


Welcome to milspec hell

It'd be easy to blame the military-bureaucracy complex for it, but the truth is it really lie in the underhanded business ethics of war-profiteers excuse me, defense contractors going back to at least the civil war. Because fo them, you can't simply let out a contract for "blankets" or some scummy merchant will underbid the contract, deliver a bunch of blankets thinner than cotton sheets and say well it's what I call a blanket so pay me"

Thus before you can ask a contractor for Blankets you have to define minimum standards: So many inches long, so many wide, so many thick, made out of these kinds of material only, in these colors, to meet this elvel of flame retardency, durability, etc etc

ergo Milspec
 
2010-05-18 12:04:04 PM  
sounds like a crack dealer trying to hook a client.
 
2010-05-18 12:05:54 PM  

IrateShadow: Hell, Hostess modifies the recipe for twinkies


I didn't know Hell was involved in making Twinkies. Explains a few things.

/now I want a twinkie and a brownie
 
2010-05-18 12:06:06 PM  

keithgabryelski: it's unfortunate that business is so concerned with bottom line profits instead of pride of work that they would fark up brownie making if it wasn't for a document that explained in 26 page detail how it must be done to conform to specification.

go ahead, remove any page and give a contract to any business for 1 million brownies -- see how it comes out.


Exactly you really don't want a platoon of grunts with M-4 carbines, an M249 LSW, M67 fragmentation grenades, M224 mortars, and AT4s storming the mess barracks upon returning from a field operation the first chance they get because their brownies were sub-standard.
 
2010-05-18 12:06:37 PM  
Why is the pouch unclean, and why does it have a foreign odor? Anyone else seeing that?

All I know is I don't want any funny-smelling unclean military pouches anywhere near my brownies.
 
2010-05-18 12:06:50 PM  
Ignore that post, it was supposed to be in the monsanto thread.. durrrr
 
2010-05-18 12:07:35 PM  
Jackson Herring: This is what happens when you don't read the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy Metting minutes.

Go Mets!
 
2010-05-18 12:08:49 PM  

Phil Moskowitz: sounds like a crack dealer trying to hook a client.


I knew they hooked new recruits on cigarettes, but I think brownies is one accusation too far.
 
2010-05-18 12:10:28 PM  

Magorn: Welcome to milspec hell

It'd be easy to blame the military-bureaucracy complex for it, but the truth is it really lie in the underhanded business ethics of war-profiteers excuse me, defense contractors going back to at least the civil war. Because fo them, you can't simply let out a contract for "blankets" or some scummy merchant will underbid the contract, deliver a bunch of blankets thinner than cotton sheets and say well it's what I call a blanket so pay me"

Thus before you can ask a contractor for Blankets you have to define minimum standards: So many inches long, so many wide, so many thick, made out of these kinds of material only, in these colors, to meet this elvel of flame retardency, durability, etc etc

ergo Milspec


This.

It'll never occur to the free-market cheerleaders at Reason as to why details specifications like this are so necessary.
 
2010-05-18 12:15:13 PM  
It's interesting that a conservative/self proclaimed libertarian blog would look at a milspec document and conclude the process to be broken because the definition of the project is 26 pages.

You'd think their solution (from the tone) was to remove specifacations altogether and let market forces work out the solution.

It used to be I respected, although I didn't encourage, libertarian ideology because it seemed pure.

I can now see it is pure bullshiat.

Oh, wait: that is exactly the libertarian solution to everything.
 
2010-05-18 12:17:53 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: keithgabryelski: it's unfortunate that business is so concerned with bottom line profits instead of pride of work that they would fark up brownie making if it wasn't for a document that explained in 26 page detail how it must be done to conform to specification.

go ahead, remove any page and give a contract to any business for 1 million brownies -- see how it comes out.

Exactly you really don't want a platoon of grunts with M-4 carbines, an M249 LSW, M67 fragmentation grenades, M224 mortars, and AT4s storming the mess barracks upon returning from a field operation the first chance they get because their brownies were sub-standard.


Or poisoned because the maker used tainted water in the recipe.

/we agree
 
2010-05-18 12:21:45 PM  
Ever read the military's cake recipie?

"1 18.25 ounce package chocolate cake mix.
1 can prepared coconut pecan frosting.
3/4 cup vegetable oil.
4 large eggs.
1 cup semi-sweet chocolate chips.
3/4 cups butter or margarine.
1&2/3 cups granulated sugar.
2 cups all purpose flour.

Don't forget garnishes such as:
Fish shaped crackers.
Fish shaped candies.
Fish shaped solid waste,
Fish shaped dirt.
Fish shaped ethyl benzene.
Pull and peel licorice..
Fish shaped volatile organic compounds and sediment shaped sediment.
Candy coated peanut butter pieces, Shaped like fish.
1 cup lemon juice.

Alpha resins.
Unsaturated polyester resin.
Fiberglass surface resins.
And volatile malted milk impoundments.
9 large egg yolks.
12 medium geosynthetic membranes.
1 cup granulated sugar.

An entry called 'how to kill someone with your bare hands'.

2 cups rhubarb, sliced.
2/3 cups granulated rhubarb.
1 tablespoon all-purpose rhubarb.
1 teaspoon grated orange rhubarb.
3 tablespoons rhubarb, on fire.
1 large rhubarb.
1 cross borehole electro-magnetic imaging rhubarb.
2 tablespoons rhubarb juice.

Adjustable aluminum head positioner.
Slaughter electric needle injector.
Cordless electric needle injector.
Injector needle driver.
Injector needle gun.
Cranial caps.

And it contains proven preservatives, deep penetration agents, and gas and odor control chemicals. That will deodorize and preserve putrid tissue."

I've had it before. The cake is delicious and moist.
 
2010-05-18 12:23:36 PM  
See! The Military is perfectly equipped to throw a bake sale!
 
2010-05-18 12:25:13 PM  
If the best critique you can come up with is how many pages it's been formatted into when reviewing brownies or health-care, it's time to shut your hole.
 
2010-05-18 12:26:07 PM  

Linux_Yes: Obfuscation is also a handy tool to keep americans confused so that Trillion dollars a year of free tax money continues to be poured into the Pentagon so they can continue to play their war games and continue to keep americans scared of the boogeyman.


The Pentagon doesn't even want it all.^

=Smidge=
 
2010-05-18 12:29:39 PM  
To be completely honest I'm amazed at how thorough they are.
If the politicians who send them to do stuff were half as thorough with their plans as the actual military, We'd have been out of Afghanistan in 6 months (and never in Iraq to begin with).
 
2010-05-18 12:31:01 PM  
DONNA
$500 screwdrivers is why you didn't vote for the President?

JACK
I work for the President. That's a lot.

DONNA
It's wasteful spending.

JACK
No, it's not.

DONNA
A $400 ashtray?

(Jack picks up a wrench and smashes an ashtray that's on his desk. It breaks into three large chunks.)

DONNA
What was that?

JACK
A $400 ashtray. It's off the U.S.S. Greenville, a nuclear attack submarine and a likely target for a torpedo. When you get hit with one, you've got enough problems without glass flying into the eyes of the navigator and the Officer of the Deck. This one's built to break into three dull pieces. We lead a slightly different life out there and it costs a little more money.

DONNA
I can't believe you broke a $400 ashtray.

JACK
Yeah, I wish I hadn't done that. It's... 'cause you're blonde.
 
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