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(Chicago Breaking News)   Upon further review; Walgreens decides not to rip off stupid people for profit. Damn you, liberal media   (chicagotribune.com) divider line
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2010-05-13 12:05:43 AM  
They no longer sell lottery tickets?
 
2010-05-13 12:58:43 AM  
How does selling genetic tests rip off stupid people? I don't know about the efficacy of this test, but the fact is the day is coming when genetic testing for disease (and other factors) is going to be just as common as getting vaccines as a child. And that day is fast approaching. And we are better for it as a country and as a species.
 
2010-05-13 2:10:25 AM  

TheOnion: How does selling genetic tests rip off stupid people? I don't know about the efficacy of this test, but the fact is the day is coming when genetic testing for disease (and other factors) is going to be just as common as getting vaccines as a child. And that day is fast approaching. And we are better for it as a country and as a species.


I seriously doubt anyone buying a genetic test at a Walgreens is trying to test for Huntington's.

/You are NOT the father.
//Maybe.
///We didn't do actual testing, we kinda just flipped a coin.
 
2010-05-13 2:18:26 AM  
This could spell trouble for Obama's chuldrins.
 
2010-05-13 2:22:15 AM  
"If you do not believe that you are required to obtain FDA clearance or approval for the Genetic Health Report, please provide us the basis for the determination," Wood said in his letter to Pathway Genomics.

How about "it's not food" and "it's not a drug"?

Fortunately the federal government has nothing better to spend its money on.
 
2010-05-13 2:22:22 AM  
So they are not gonna carry anything Sarah Palin writes?
 
2010-05-13 2:23:14 AM  

sobernutz: So they are not gonna carry anything Sarah Palin writes?


DER HER!!! UZZ FUNNY!!!
 
2010-05-13 2:24:16 AM  

TheOnion: How does selling genetic tests rip off stupid people? I don't know about the efficacy of this test, but the fact is the day is coming when genetic testing for disease (and other factors) is going to be just as common as getting vaccines as a child. And that day is fast approaching. And we are better for it as a country and as a species.


But...autism. Nuclear! Big words!!1
 
2010-05-13 2:25:15 AM  
If taking money from stupid people is wrong, I don't want to be right.
 
2010-05-13 2:27:02 AM  

rbbass: sobernutz: So they are not gonna carry anything Sarah Palin writes?

DER HER!!! UZZ FUNNY!!!


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You're welcome.
 
2010-05-13 2:27:06 AM  
NERVE CONDITION - PROBABILITY 60%
MANIC DEPRESSION - 42%
OBESITY - 66%
ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDER - 89%
HEART DISORDER - 99%: EARLY FATAL POTENTIAL
LIFE EXPECTANCY - 33 YEARS

Careless parents, freebirthing an Invalid like you.
 
2010-05-13 2:30:09 AM  

TheOnion: How does selling genetic tests rip off stupid people? I don't know about the efficacy of this test, but the fact is the day is coming when genetic testing for disease (and other factors) is going to be just as common as getting vaccines as a child. And that day is fast approaching. And we are better for it as a country and as a species.


Reducing the genetic variability of a species through selective breeding while not completely understanding the role of the "negative" variability isn't a benefit to the species... at least not in the long run.
 
2010-05-13 2:31:27 AM  
Does Walgreen's take chickens?
 
2010-05-13 2:32:21 AM  
Great. How are we supposed be able to detect lizard people now?
 
2010-05-13 2:33:06 AM  
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2010-05-13 2:36:04 AM  

Hoopy Frood: "If you do not believe that you are required to obtain FDA clearance or approval for the Genetic Health Report, please provide us the basis for the determination," Wood said in his letter to Pathway Genomics.

How about "it's not food" and "it's not a drug"?


The FDA regulates lots of stuff that isn't food or drugs. Most in-vitro diagnostic tests are regulated and approved.
 
2010-05-13 2:38:49 AM  
Did Apple file an injunction?
 
2010-05-13 2:38:54 AM  

eraser8: Great. How are we supposed be able to detect lizard people now?


Uh-oh...
 
2010-05-13 2:40:36 AM  

eraser8: Great. How are we supposed be able to detect lizard people now?


Special sunglasses, of course.
 
2010-05-13 2:40:43 AM  

Abstruse: TheOnion: How does selling genetic tests rip off stupid people? I don't know about the efficacy of this test, but the fact is the day is coming when genetic testing for disease (and other factors) is going to be just as common as getting vaccines as a child. And that day is fast approaching. And we are better for it as a country and as a species.

I seriously doubt anyone buying a genetic test at a Walgreens is trying to test for Huntington's.

/You are NOT the father.
//Maybe.
///We didn't do actual testing, we kinda just flipped a coin.


Well there's no way they're mapping your entire genome for that price- the technology doesn't exist yet to do it cheaply. Could be any day, though.

The problem is that you don't have a doctor explaining the results. Personally, I wouldn't miss it- you can literally Google this stuff and find more far more detailed and accurate info than what a typical doc will say. After all, even an expert only has like 10 min to discuss this, which limits the amount of true understanding even if the doctor's a genetic expert.

But, for many people, they could be misled that they were at-risk or in-the-clear. Some genes are only LOOSELY associated with certain disorders, or the best info may have changed even in the last few months.
 
2010-05-13 2:48:19 AM  
Can I still get 20 glossy prints of my DNA done in an hour?
 
2010-05-13 2:48:53 AM  

TheOnion: How does selling genetic tests rip off stupid people? I don't know about the efficacy of this test


Ya answered your own question there, chief. It has no efficacy. The headline is specific to the product they were actually planning to sell.

More generally, it may be the future, but it still IS the future- there are effective genetic tests, and genetic tests affordable on individual (as opposed to research institution) budgets, but the sets don't intersect.
 
2010-05-13 2:49:40 AM  

AbsolutTBomb's alt: Can I still get 20 glossy prints of my DNA done in an hour?


Wow, I can only get a couple out in an hour, and it's typically more of a matte finish.
 
2010-05-13 2:54:29 AM  

wildsnowllama: eraser8: Great. How are we supposed be able to detect lizard people now?

Uh-oh...


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got what she wanted
/we are at peace, always at peace
 
2010-05-13 2:54:50 AM  

jingks: AbsolutTBomb's alt: Can I still get 20 glossy prints of my DNA done in an hour?

Wow, I can only get a couple out in an hour, and it's typically more of a matte finish.


Oh! Tsk! This chromosome came out blurry.
 
2010-05-13 2:56:55 AM  
bummer.
i was looking forward to sending in one each for my dogs.
 
2010-05-13 2:59:06 AM  
HUH?

What is the Chicago Tribune trying to do??
(screen-shot of the article)
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And this when they later tooted their own horn with:"The kit was the subject of an article in Wednesday's Tribune". Is the Tribune getting a kickback for home delivery of the tests?
 
2010-05-13 3:00:16 AM  
"If you do not believe that you are required to obtain FDA clearance or approval for the Genetic Health Report, please provide us the basis for the determination," Wood said in his letter to Pathway Genomics.

Uh... the use of a medical device is neither a food nor a drug? Do digital cameras require FDA clearance for detecting light that's bounced off a body? Because that's the equivalent of what the agency seems to be claiming by initiating this investigation.
 
2010-05-13 3:07:37 AM  
The good news (although unrelated) is that Walgreens in my area (Las Vegas) is finally considering selling booze, so they're applying for a liquor license.

I guess they realized they're losing money since every other drug store, convenience store, supermarket, Walmart, Costco, etc., etc., sells booze at high profits.

I'm happy because there is a Walgreens about 4 blocks away from me. That will save me some driving time.
 
2010-05-13 3:41:58 AM  
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doesnt approve
 
2010-05-13 3:48:34 AM  
Walgreens decides not to rip off stupid people for profit.

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2010-05-13 3:50:01 AM  

lord-humungus: Walgreens decides not to rip off stupid people for profit.


The earache one actually worked for me. Sure, it was most like a combination of the placebo effect and the pain being caused by ear wax buildup that the drops took care of, but the pain went away after I used that crap.
 
2010-05-13 3:54:29 AM  

Jim_Callahan: "If you do not believe that you are required to obtain FDA clearance or approval for the Genetic Health Report, please provide us the basis for the determination," Wood said in his letter to Pathway Genomics.

Uh... the use of a medical device is neither a food nor a drug? Do digital cameras require FDA clearance for detecting light that's bounced off a body? Because that's the equivalent of what the agency seems to be claiming by initiating this investigation.


It's not even a "medical device" like a pregnancy test or anything like that. It's a vial you pretty much spit into and ship off to be tested.
 
2010-05-13 4:06:06 AM  

LrdPhoenix: It's a vial you pretty much spit into and ship off to be tested.


Tested how exactly? I mean the home HIV tests are tests you pretty much prick your finger and bleed onto a card then mail off. Nothing medical about that until it gets to the lab.
 
2010-05-13 4:12:59 AM  
FTFA:
"The [home test] kit, sold under the brand name Insight, comes with a vial and a shipping envelope. Buyers send a sample of saliva to a Pathway Genomics laboratory and receive a genetic health report online."

I don't think they know what home test kit means.
 
2010-05-13 4:20:16 AM  
I've done one of these, it of course doesn't map your whole genome and there is a lot of disclaimers beforehand explaining the process and what to expect and what not to expect. i.e.

"While we may be able to tell you that researchers have found your particular genotype to be associated with an increased chance of developing a particular condition, we cannot tell you whether you actually have a specific disease, or whether you will develop a specific disease in the future.

There are several reasons why we cannot provide diagnoses or otherwise assess your health. First, because we don't sequence your entire genome, we may miss variation that has an impact on your health. Genetic testing services, which restrict themselves to a relatively small set of diseases, provide more exhaustive analysis of the relevant genes.

More importantly, in order to make a diagnosis, your doctor considers not only your genetic information, but also your particular personal and family history and your physical condition, as well as any symptoms you are experiencing. Other confirmatory tests are usually required, since your genotype is only part of the equation. If you learn that your personal genetic information suggests that you have a higher than average chance of developing a particular disease, you may wish to discuss your genetic information with your physician or another medical expert."
 
2010-05-13 4:20:36 AM  
sobernutz 2010-05-13 02:22:22 AM
So they are not gonna carry anything Sarah Palin writes?


That's right.
 
2010-05-13 4:43:49 AM  
The FDA regulates anything clearly used to detect, diagnose, treat, or cure any disease. Which is why all those (mostly useless, occasionally outright harmful) "dietary supplements" Walgreens also sells all say on the label that "This product is not intended to detect, treat, diagnose, or cure any disease." That way, the FDA doesn't regulate them, just the Dept. of Agriculture (which only cares that the stuff likely won't poison you, not whether or not it helps in any meaningful way).

This genetic test is very likely being marketed as a "diagnostic test" for a variety of conditions and ailments, so yes, it gets regulated the same way blood-sugar testers and medical thermometers do, to make sure it gives reasonably accurate results when used to diagnose illness. The FDA isn't claiming that this test is useless, just that they didn't get the FDA to sign off on whether or not it is useless, and they need to do that before figuring out if they can sell this as an honest-to-goodness home DNA test kit for purposes of testing your susceptibility to disease...or as a novelty item used "for entertainment purposes only" like horoscopes, psychic readings, Ouija boards, and communion wafers.

/just kidding on that last one
//sadly
 
2010-05-13 4:58:11 AM  

steelpeg: Is the Tribune getting a kickback for home delivery of the tests?


You're kidding, right?
 
2010-05-13 5:02:44 AM  

LrdPhoenix:
It's not even a "medical device" like a pregnancy test or anything like that. It's a vial you pretty much spit into and ship off to be tested.


The thing in the box is, but the company being investigated by the FDA isn't the Walgreen's end of it, it's the company itself, which assumably does some sort of chemical testing, phosphorescent binders or something. So there's a medical device in there somewhere. It's a remote device, though (i.e. not stuck into your body) so I'm confused as to the FDA's jurisdiction. Or I was, Martin cleared it up for me fairly well, there.
 
2010-05-13 5:12:24 AM  

FlyingPenguini:
Uh-oh...

[Morena Baccarin pic]

got what she wanted
/we are at peace, always at peace


I'd give her a sample of my DNA

/she was hotter in Firefly
//Still smokin' now
 
2010-05-13 5:14:46 AM  
@lord-humungus

So are you saying since Walgreens has the same packaging for 2 different medications that I'd really be purchasing nothing? On that package in the picture you posted it says Compared to the active ingredients in *insert product here* by Similasan. Now go to Similasan's website and you will see that all of the Similasan products look pretty much the same packaging wise. Why pay for a separate design to be made up when you have a template already set that works for all of the product line?
 
2010-05-13 5:32:58 AM  
M'kay, but I can still get my homeopathic medicine there, right?

Oh, and try not to overdose on the homeopathic sleeping remedy. Perhaps you could explain -- does the Child version of a homeopathic remedy have MORE or LESS of the original tincture? I'm confused....

Not to mention flower essences, and Bach remedies.

/Actually tried homeopathic stuff
//Made things worse, so it DOES work...
 
2010-05-13 5:33:37 AM  
Not one picture of Ethan Hawke yet? Disappointing.
 
2010-05-13 6:23:45 AM  
lord-humungus: www.walgreens.comwww.walgreens.com

Came here to post stuff like that... you beat me to it.

So let me just add this.. (^).

And here (^) is the whole search result page for homeopathic
 
2010-05-13 6:40:45 AM  
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"Whew!"
 
2010-05-13 6:53:48 AM  
Upon further review; subby needs to learn how to use semicolons properly.
 
2010-05-13 7:16:02 AM  

HumbertoEcho: M'kay, but I can still get my homeopathic medicine there, right?

Oh, and try not to overdose on the homeopathic sleeping remedy. Perhaps you could explain -- does the Child version of a homeopathic remedy have MORE or LESS of the original tincture? I'm confused....

Not to mention flower essences, and Bach remedies.

/Actually tried homeopathic stuff
//Made things worse, so it DOES work...


What ever you do, don't forget to take it once you start, you will overdose.

/Sorry had to.
 
2010-05-13 7:20:38 AM  

Tenatra: So are you saying since Walgreens has the same packaging for 2 different medications that I'd really be purchasing nothing?


"Homeopathic" is shorthand for "contains no medication; product does nothing other than lighten your wallet".
 
2010-05-13 7:31:58 AM  

gopher321: They no longer sell lottery tickets?


Nonono... the lottery is just a tax on people that are bad at math.
 
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