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(NY Daily News)   Only 40 percent of New Yorkers would eat Mayor Bloomberg's franks and beans   ( nydailynews.com) divider line
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2003-05-08 03:28:23 PM  
Sadly, a much smaller percentage of the people I meet will eat my beans and franks.
2003-05-08 04:18:53 PM  
Do I know You!?!?

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2003-05-08 09:28:34 PM  
Why do Asians always get ingnored in polls? I'm not Asian but if I were I think I would be offended.
2003-05-08 09:29:17 PM  
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He'd eat them.
2003-05-08 09:29:44 PM  
WWG [Guiliani] D ?
2003-05-08 09:32:43 PM  
I wouldn't eat any man's franks and beans
2003-05-08 09:32:47 PM  
Bah...why not?
2003-05-08 09:33:32 PM  
Most of them are probably just edgy because they can't smoke anywhere in the damn city anymore. I know how moody I was for the first few months after I quit smoking 3 months ago. Hell, i'm still pretty pissy, and it's nice to be able to blame it on that.

2003-05-08 09:34:24 PM  
Would you say that Mayor Bloomberg would be fun to have dinner?

Yes: 40%
No: 46%
Don't know: 13%

And they wonder where the 13% comes from.
2003-05-08 09:36:42 PM  
Did someone say beans?

2003-05-08 09:38:13 PM  
"I wouldn't eat any man's franks and beans"

Depends on where they'd been
2003-05-08 09:44:22 PM  

In any case, I don't like franks. Is there some fish instead?
2003-05-08 09:49:08 PM  
i live here - and he sucks. He whines, lays people off, tells all the depressed, out of work people they can't smoke and if they do they have to shell out eight bucks a pack and stand on a cold, rainy corner. I don't even smoke but I can tell you the bars are empty now - the sidewalks in front of the bars are where it's at.

He lays off the sanitation department - so now we get to pay two grand a month rent for our closet-sized apartments and trip over rodents on our way through the door.

There are no jobs in sight. Crime is up.

You know, I'd actually love to have dinner with Mike Bloomberg - so I can tape his mouth shut and force him to listen to my complaints.
2003-05-08 09:51:09 PM  
assume half of them are female.

what a lucky man!
2003-05-08 09:55:16 PM  
how did he get the beans above the frank?
2003-05-08 09:57:36 PM  
Actually I like Mike... he makes it a hell of a lot easier to dine and dash in the Big Apple these days, by giving the nasty ones among us a good excuse to step out.

Ah, just kidding. Bloomers blows goats.
2003-05-08 09:57:59 PM  
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2003-05-08 10:02:04 PM  
Well aside from the smoking thing, and cuts with the cops, I have no qualms with him. You can not blame the guy for having to cut all the services seeing how there is a 3 billion dollar shortfall. Its not his fault business sucks right now.

And if you cant deal with rats and 2 grand a month rent, your in the wrong city. Even under the great Guliani they were there. Hell, now my rent is cheaper, and my rats are not as well fed. Nothing new.

what do you suppose he should do aside from lay people off? Raise taxes even more and drive out even more companys?
2003-05-08 10:13:26 PM  
I've bean known to enjoy a good frank.
2003-05-08 10:17:27 PM  
i live here - and he sucks. He whines, lays people off, tells all the depressed, out of work people they can't smoke and if they do they have to shell out eight bucks a pack and stand on a cold, rainy corner.

You forgot: raises taxes. Lots. This guy is the anti-Giuliani. With a little more work he'll get his popularity down to the level of Governor Gray Davis of California, who has the worst popularity of a governor in the history of polling.
2003-05-08 10:19:51 PM  
He can raise taxes - particularly on the very wealthy. What about corporate sponsorship for all the programs he is cutting? He can reinstate the sales tax (I'm pretty sure Jersey doesn't have a Bergdorf's or Barney's - I could be wrong), he can propose a salary decrease so that some people can salvage their jobs - I've heard of specific unions willing to re-negotiate their contracts for a certain amount of time until the crisis is cleared up. I just don't see how laying off more people is doing anything to benefit the economy. When this many people are out of work, with no chance of getting another job, violent crime will increase with the desperation of the people. The quality of life here has already been negatively affected by many of his decisions - don't think it won't continue to disintegrate.

I'm not specifically affected by his lay-offs because I don't work for the city; however corporations are making cuts as well. Many have simply opted to move into Jersey, Westchester, some have even gone to Philadelphia. Manhattan - by the way - houses the minority of New York City residents. Most people live in Brooklyn, Staten Island, Queens and the Bronx - and most of them are probably not paying $2,000.00 a month for a closet - yet, they are afflicted by his poor decisions as well. But I suppose the city isn't for them either?
2003-05-08 10:20:39 PM  
Is anyone actually surprised that a guy who blatantly bought his way into City Hall would turn out to be such a miserable failure at running the place?

Besides, his whiny voice is grating to the ear. He blabbers on about how the city is out of money, then bans smoking in all bars and restaurants -- does he think this law will enforce itself? Farking ex-smokers...
2003-05-08 10:24:46 PM  
His comment about the ban on smoking was (and I quote), "If people are concerned about money - their priorities are a little screwed up."

I'm not sure I know of one person in this city who isn't concerned about money and job security right now - oh, except maybe him - and the Hilton Sisters.
2003-05-08 10:27:48 PM  
Aliquis -- you could tax the "very wealthy" on 100% of their assets and that probably would only cover the deficit for one year. Then you'd be about $5B in the hole for the next year... reinstate the sales tax? I wasn't aware that it ever went away. NJ is the place where you don't pay taxes on clothes, not NY.

Guess I made the right decision when I decided to stay in Jersey. Besides the Nets (and Devils) own the Knicks (and Rangers) anyday.

And that $2000 estimate for rent is definitely a low figure, unless you wish to live in a really seedy neighborhood. Oddly enough I wrote an article about this recently... it just mentions a few things people ought to know before moving to the area...
2003-05-08 10:27:52 PM  
He's a jerkoff
2003-05-08 10:29:06 PM  
It's pretty easy not to be concerned about money when you're not only a billionaire, but a billionaire who's made his fortune in the financial services market.

What's that smell... oh, must be a one-termer.
2003-05-08 10:30:49 PM  

He can raise taxes
I read very recently that if you eliminated the very rich (people worth more than a million) the average manhattanites income would be something around 40k. Do you really want to drive those people across the river? He did raise taxes too, on property. Now everyone is crying their rent will go up and their company is moving upstate.

What about corporate sponsorship for all the programs he is cutting?
so this trash pickup will be brought to me by pepsi?

He can reinstate the sales tax (I'm pretty sure Jersey doesn't have a Bergdorf's or Barney's - I could be wrong) Jersey does, and what about the places were the other 99.9% of other clothes are bought? Getting rid of the sales tax on clothing was great for retailers. O yea, and a lot of stuff in bergdorfs and barneys is over 200 bucks, so not exempt already.

he can propose a salary decrease so that some people can salvage their jobs - I've heard of specific unions willing to re-negotiate their contracts for a certain amount of time until the crisis is cleared up
Listening to union commercials huh? Yea they were willing to take wage freezes or even reductions, but wanted to rape the city once the current crisis cleared. Sure, you dont have to raise us 4% now, but next year we want 15.

Listen, I agree with you what is going on sucks, but I have not heard one reasonable and FAIR alternative solution. Everyone says well lets tax the rich more. Regardless of if your a republican or a democrat and agree or disagree, that will only help drive businesses out. Why do you think companys move to jersey? lower taxes.

And its sad to say it, but the few thousand city workers who are getting let go are a drop in the bucket. Lower manhattan has lost upwards of 75,000 jobs since 9/11 alone.
2003-05-08 10:34:19 PM  
Getting the beans above the frank isn't that hard. Just remember, when you think you can't pull any harder...... you're probably gonna' need surgery.
2003-05-08 10:35:55 PM  
We have had the whole Hoboken is not NY discussion before. I see your points, and simply put the place is not for you. I have been to montreal before, and its certainly not the place for me, although it was kinda cool.

And dont knock bloomberg for being rich. He is a self made man.
2003-05-08 10:37:43 PM  
I think it's time to detach NYC from its moorings, float it out to sea, and sink it. It's a moldering corpse that should have been dealt with years ago.
2003-05-08 10:38:22 PM  
He's a fvcking asswipe. Tax raising smoke NAZI.
2003-05-08 10:41:40 PM  
LineNoise -- he's perfectly right to make money... only his posturing along the lines of "you shouldn't be concerned foremost about money" sounds like so much demagogical claptrap when you consider that he owes his former livelihood entirely to people who can't go 2 minutes without an update about money matters (that's what Bloomberg delivers, and delivers well).
2003-05-08 10:57:38 PM  
Well then I have a bargain apartment! I pay $2k a month for my studio apartment on the Upper East Side. I think your figure is off though - sure you pay a broker's fee - as well as a security deposit - but most people I know pay less rent for bigger apartments. This place is ridiculously costly but it will have to do until my lease runs out next month.

The sales tax on clothing under $110 in Manhattan was abolished on March 1, 2000. To be honest with you I'm really not positive if it was ever reinstated. I don't think it was. I don't shop too often and when I do, it's usually when I find myself outside Manhattan.

Overall though, Bloomberg is just not someone worth arguing about - we're stuck with him.
2003-05-08 11:00:04 PM  
But 41% would pay good money to see his frank and beans.
2003-05-08 11:02:01 PM  
whoa... $2k/month for a studio... eek!

In the article I am estimating based on size, neighborhood, lack of pests (and I mean, I haven't seen a single critter in the two years I've been here). And it really is a big place, but to step down to something half the size, on the day I went to look for a place, would only have saved me about $300 tops. Hoboken ain't the low-rent neighborhood it once was.
2003-05-08 11:02:52 PM  
Oh - and I wouldn't really include "Public Sanitation" as a program.
2003-05-08 11:07:20 PM  
I have to say, I have never had a bug, mouse, rat - not even a spider - in this apartment. I live in a really nice neighborhood. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Hoboken. I'm just really lazy and I have trouble getting out of bed in the morning. If I had to commute to work on a path train or bus - I would DIE. No - first I would get fired for being late every day - then I would die from starvation after my unemployment ran out.
2003-05-08 11:36:57 PM  
Hoboken ain't the low-rent neighborhood it once was.

Parts of JC are still pretty good.
2003-05-08 11:56:16 PM  
More power to ya, I say... I've only had jobs on this side of the river so far, probably stay here for the same reason :-)
2003-05-09 12:13:18 AM  
Clever, where abouts in boken do you live?
2003-05-09 12:28:03 AM  
The north end (insofar as a town 1 mile square can have a "north end") -- 12th & Park.

Most places in the neighborhood are converted brownstones where you get the entire floor. It's a fairly old place -- my landlord's been living here all his live, and he's over 75 -- but it's been really well kept up.
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2003-05-09 12:58:33 AM  
What percentage of New Yorkers would toss his salad?
2003-05-09 01:37:29 AM  
In other news...Finalhit is cute.
2003-05-09 08:04:37 AM  
And 32% of those people live in the Village...
2003-05-09 09:06:39 AM  
Why am I not surprised?
2003-05-09 01:07:33 PM  
Bloomberg gets a bad rap...he's got a truly shiatty economy to deal with, and relief aid from the Bush Administration has been anemic at best (Congress basically went around Bush to make sure NYC got SOMETHING to reconstruct after 9/11). Add to that the fact that Pataki's underrepresenting the city in the state budget, and you have a city which has to cut services to stay afloat.

I'm not thrilling to Bloomberg, either, but he's better than Rudy was any farking day of the week.
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