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2003-04-03 02:59:10 PM  
If you needed a "tip off" to let you know the war was coming, I worry. Maybe the 72 hours advance notice from GWB wasn't clear enough?
2003-04-03 03:01:43 PM  
I'm just glad all those WMDs have been found.

2003-04-03 03:01:57 PM  
I was tipped off too. GWB appeared on my tv and my tv alone and told me when it would start.
2003-04-03 03:02:23 PM  
Yeah, really. From a month and a half out I missed by two days (I'd predicted the 17th). The administration was not real subtle.
2003-04-03 03:04:32 PM  

And wasn't the start date dictated by the presence of a target of opportunity anyway?
2003-04-03 03:04:39 PM  
OMG!!!! Does that mean we're all psychic????
2003-04-03 03:04:56 PM  
Oh come on. Even we knew it was going to be the 19th.
2003-04-03 03:05:11 PM  
Heheh, I put $20 on March 20th in that thread Nightsweat, and since it was the 20th on Iraqi time, payup! :P
2003-04-03 03:05:23 PM  

I must be feeding off your cable hookup...
2003-04-03 03:06:09 PM  
Actually, WarmBeer, you make a good point. Where are those WMD?

2003-04-03 03:07:09 PM  
Well, I'm sure the psyops soldiers stationed in the CNN building probably had something to do with it.
2003-04-03 03:07:51 PM  
You mean the media, government, and the corporations are in cahoots?! Say it ain't so!

2003-04-03 03:07:53 PM  
Ummm...Bullshiate. It actually wasn't supposed to start until the next night, but the intelligence re: Saddam and his whereabouts led to a last minute meeting with Bush's NSC and the decision to go after him was then made.

But nice story.
2003-04-03 03:09:38 PM  
Even the blind guy living under the 12th Street bridge saw this coming...
2003-04-03 03:09:53 PM  
Do you want to see WMD or see them used?
2003-04-03 03:09:57 PM  
uh oh...a war-related thread! you know what that means...

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2003-04-03 03:10:06 PM  
OK. Sweep weeks are over now. Time to level the ever loving fark out of Baghdad, pack up our well deserved oil, and go home.

I'm hoping France will be next years TV darling.
2003-04-03 03:10:37 PM  
Oh crap, there's a war on?
2003-04-03 03:11:38 PM  
This whole war is not about OIL.

It is about saving the AOL/TimeWarner merger from wreaking more havoc in the stock market.
2003-04-03 03:12:38 PM  
On a separate note, is anyone else disappointed that the media hasn't come up with any good names for this war? I mean Gulf War II? That's weak. I think FauxNews should have a poll and get all the hawks that watch the channel, choose something much catchier.
2003-04-03 03:12:44 PM  
They're going for the whole Kut and Karbala
2003-04-03 03:13:02 PM  
The source, who requested anonymity, told The Chronicle on March 4 that executives there said the war "had been scheduled" for March 19

Something about that leaves me cold. I guess if you can pick your dates and schedule with news services, the danger isn't *too* clear and present
2003-04-03 03:13:30 PM  
Warmbeer and CPu

If the actions of the Saddam regime haven't convinced people they needed to go, no amount of discovered WMD will convince anyone and the doubters will say they were planted anyway. It would be nice to find some! After all the gas masks, I'm sure they're around somewhere?
2003-04-03 03:13:31 PM  
"uh oh...a war-related thread! you know what that means..."

Yeah, it's time for all the chickenhawks to start pounding their chests. Booya.
2003-04-03 03:13:45 PM  
I was off by a day or two myself. Then again, Bush personally gave me 48 hours heads up.
2003-04-03 03:13:47 PM  
Who cares? I mean, what the hell does this matter?
2003-04-03 03:14:05 PM  
i think we were all tipped off.
2003-04-03 03:14:09 PM  

If thats the case i apologize for all the SpongeBob and Wiggles programs you have been forced to endure.
2003-04-03 03:14:13 PM  
Spiritauthor: Either or. First Saddam says he doesn't have them, Bush says he has them, then Saddam says he'll use them...Wish someone would make up their mind.

I'm all confused.
2003-04-03 03:15:06 PM  
Flame on. I'm gone. I'm so sweet like a nice bon bon.

/paul's boutique

2003-04-03 03:15:09 PM  
Does that mean that the guy who wins the office pool has connections with Roy Williams when Kansas wins the Final Four? d'oh. Bag open...cat out.
2003-04-03 03:15:40 PM  
NICU8697 - how about "Operation Sand Monkey Liberation"
or "Iraqie A-Go-Go"
2003-04-03 03:15:43 PM  
There sure are a lot of words in that article. They should have a summary at the beginning.
2003-04-03 03:15:50 PM  
"And in the sand right here, I'll draw you a map of how the flamewar in this thread will start, where it will go, and where your comment will be attacked."

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2003-04-03 03:16:19 PM  
do i care?

2003-04-03 03:16:34 PM  
No blood for oil!

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Oh, you don't mean that kind of oil? Never mind, then. Sorry.
2003-04-03 03:16:40 PM  
Of course they knew when the start of the war was going to be. They had to have ample time to print up the T-Shirts.
2003-04-03 03:16:59 PM  

But the issue is really quite simple. At this point, Saddam Hussein has nothing to lose. If he waits, he's going to lose his country, and almost certainly his life.

So why, if he does have WMD hanging around, isn't he using them? It seems like the most reasonable thing for him to do, to make the casualties on the American side so high that the American public would go ballistic and demand we pull them out.

Honestly, before the war started, I thought he probably did have some WMD, though I also thought we should have waited for inspectors to find them instead of charging full speed ahead. Now...now I'm considerably less certain.
2003-04-03 03:17:12 PM  
2003-04-03 03:17:36 PM  
If memory serves, the "Washington Week in Review" pundits pegged the week of Mar. 15 (not too far off) 'bout a month and a half or so before everything began, under fairly reliable assumptions such as Saddam remaining stubborn.
2003-04-03 03:18:37 PM  
I am not saying thier are WMD, but don't people realize that there is a war being fought that is rather occupying the time in order to massively search for them at this moment?
2003-04-03 03:18:37 PM  
"After all the gas masks, I'm sure they're around somewhere?"

News flash: It's more uncommon for ANY military to NOT have gas masks. It's part of the uniform for almost every army on the planet. Flame on.
2003-04-03 03:18:59 PM  
Anybody read the NYT this morning? There is an article on the Front page titled, "A bridgehead and a Thirsty Welcome". The Jim Dwyer article quotes an Iraqi civilian after being asked "what do you think America will bring to Iraq?", "Democracy....Whiskey. And sexy!!" Classic.

So that's what this war is all about folks, Democracy, Whiskey and sexy.
2003-04-03 03:19:19 PM  
If there are WMD, now is the time when we might see them used (by the Iraqis). Pay no attention to the depleted uranium munitions used by the U.S. - they are not WMD. Right?

Yeah right.
2003-04-03 03:19:28 PM  
That's it, yer outta the country.
2003-04-03 03:19:39 PM  
JAdamS: I wasn't implying that Saddam was any kind of saint (or anywhere near respectful of human life for that matter) but for 7 solid months it was "Rockets full of VX, mobile trucks making anthrax, factories pumping out tons of poison." You'd think they would have found something by now rather than a few empty missle shells.
2003-04-03 03:20:44 PM  
If they use them innocent people will die. Only the soldiers will live.
If we find them with artillery - same result.
I hope we were wrong. I hope they don't have them. I believe the war is justified anyway.
2003-04-03 03:21:20 PM  
Pay no attention to the depleted uranium munitions used by the U.S. - they are not WMD

No they aren't. At all.

Just because it says uranium in it doesn't make it a nuclear weapon.
2003-04-03 03:22:32 PM  
The whole genre of self-focused media-masturbation articles written by ethinc-studies-flunkout journalism majors about ethnic-studies-flunkout journalism majors for ethnic-studies-flunkout journalism majors enthralls me. Can't get enuf a-dat behind the news-desk scuttlebutt; uh-huh.
2003-04-03 03:22:32 PM  

Technically, they aren't. At the worst, they increase the cancer risk of people around the warzone a bit, which is a far cry from 'Mass Destruction.'

Just trying to be even-handed here. ;)
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