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2009-12-08 6:13:10 PM  
yes, because a baby is a great excuse to spark violence.
 
2009-12-08 6:16:16 PM  

GLove88mph: yes, because a baby is a great excuse to spark violence.


Wars have started over less.
 
2009-12-08 6:28:29 PM  

The English Major: GLove88mph: yes, because a baby is a great excuse to spark violence.

Wars have started over less.


The War of Jenkin's Ear would have provided good Fark fodder.
 
2009-12-08 6:42:57 PM  

Cagey B: The War of Jenkin's Ear would have provided good Fark fodder.


This would actually make a pretty good TFD thread. What a fark thread would be like if Fark existed during some of the earth's greatests wars.
 
2009-12-08 6:46:25 PM  
The guy who hit the other guy is an asshole.
The guy whose kid was annoying everyone else is a selfish dick.
 
2009-12-08 6:52:15 PM  

bronyaur1: The guy whose kid was annoying everyone else is a selfish dick.


The kid wasn't even crying. The aggressor here is both an irrational asshole and a cowardly douchebag for running away when the rest of the customers turned on him.
 
2009-12-08 7:34:33 PM  

bronyaur1: The guy whose kid was annoying everyone else is a selfish dick.


RTFA. 99% of the people in there were on the slapped Dad's side.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2009-12-08 7:36:31 PM  
The child was "fussing" which could mean anything from nothing up to screaming just short of fed-into-a-wood-chipper volume.

Fortunately I don't have to judge the child's behavior because I think it's OK to slap people who go to Starbucks.
 
2009-12-08 7:40:48 PM  
The writer specifically said the kid wasn't crying or anything like that... just looked like he could be cranky. So I think the slapper is the douche in this case.
 
2009-12-08 7:58:31 PM  
*smack*

Quite right. I see your point. Very sorry about that.

*leaves store with child*
 
2009-12-08 8:10:21 PM  
When I lived in the Heights it was very family orientated, but the last time I visited it felt like parts of Manhattan. It was yuppie-ish in the 90s but it seemed totally different last time I was there. I was surprised to see nannies on the weekend when I took our son back to the park he went as a baby.

I used to go to Hansens down the block -- better and cheaper coffee (and they were there long before Starbucks). Some days I don't miss living there.
 
2009-12-08 8:11:46 PM  
slapped? I hope he didn't spill his saucer of milk!
 
2009-12-08 8:15:52 PM  
DeNinozzo!

sorry, Boss
 
2009-12-08 8:18:06 PM  
violence is being a hero? sick.

why did he slap a person who wouldn't stop his kid from crying? Shouldn't he do it himself?

poorly worded headline.
 
2009-12-08 8:18:12 PM  
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Not impressed.

/hot
 
2009-12-08 8:19:35 PM  
My money is on this thread going from 0 to Plaid within ten minutes.
 
2009-12-08 8:19:41 PM  

ClemsonChili: Not impressed.

/hot


That was the first thing I thought of.

/Get out of my head!
 
2009-12-08 8:19:46 PM  
Yee-HAW! Violence is Heroic!

*shoots guns into air while hopping from left foot to right foot, then back again*
 
2009-12-08 8:19:53 PM  
Though the slapper is the asshole in this particular case, I'd side with him most other times. Parents have forgotten what the hell to do with their children and it's making life miserable for the rest of us.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2009-12-08 8:21:07 PM  
Shouldn't he do it himself?

Slapping a kid can turn you into a sex offender. You're better off, criminal justice-wise, stabbing the parent.
 
2009-12-08 8:21:29 PM  
ZAZ: Fortunately I don't have to judge the child's behavior because I think it's OK to slap people who go to Starbucks.

HAHAHAHA, I snerted my beer :)
 
2009-12-08 8:21:47 PM  
When you have a crying child on your hands the last thing you really need is caffeine.
 
2009-12-08 8:22:15 PM  
The kid was pissed off because his Latte was late.
 
2009-12-08 8:22:31 PM  
It's not news, it's... uh, actually this is pretty pathetic even for Fark standards.
 
2009-12-08 8:22:32 PM  
Slapping the guy because the kid was whining was a dick move. Slapping the guy for going to Starbucks would have been acceptable though.
 
2009-12-08 8:23:24 PM  
You assholes that aren't man enough to have children sure do have big farking mouths.
 
2009-12-08 8:24:01 PM  
Maybe everyone took turns; you know, "Excuse me, Doctor, you're wanted on the phone."
 
2009-12-08 8:24:56 PM  

NeauxFear: bronyaur1: The guy whose kid was annoying everyone else is a selfish dick.

RTFA. 99% of the people in there were on the slapped Dad's side.


99% of the patrons may have believed the slapping was excessive, but if you asked how many were annoyed by the kid prior to that, dad may not have so many allies.

that said, TFA does say the kid was just being fussy, and not necessarily loud. so i dunno. personally, i prefer to slap kids whether they're being loud or not, but i'm kind of a dick that way.
 
2009-12-08 8:25:29 PM  
Wanted for questioning.

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2009-12-08 8:25:32 PM  

ZAZ: The child was "fussing" which could mean anything from nothing up to screaming just short of fed-into-a-wood-chipper volume.


The only times I've ever heard anyone use the phrase "fussing" to describe their pweshus snowflake, it inevitably describes something like, "WEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMM SHRIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!".

I do not think that word means what parents think it means.
 
2009-12-08 8:25:55 PM  
If the kid had been wailing bloody murder while the "Dad" was just ignoring him, I could understand why somebody would want to smack him. Doesn't seem to be the case here, so I'll just retreat into my imagination where screaming kids and their inattentive/uncaring parents are the root of all evil and violence....
 
2009-12-08 8:26:00 PM  

GLove88mph: yes, because a baby is a great excuse to spark violence.


Approves

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/baby = fetus
 
2009-12-08 8:26:47 PM  

Propain_az: You assholes that aren't man enough to have children sure do have big farking mouths.


Oh yeah. It takes a real man to not pull out.
 
2009-12-08 8:26:58 PM  
From TFA: "I have an elementary-school-aged child, and have been in situations like this..."

I knew this was coming. Everything in the article is now suspect, as parents of small children (see Propain above) are some of the most touchy, blinder-wearing jagoffs out there.

"Don't complain about my kid running around the restaurant! He's just a kid! If you don't want to hear them scream, stay home!"
 
2009-12-08 8:27:08 PM  
Because nothing comforts a child like seeing their parent slapped.

Also, how loud does this kid have to be to be heard over the standard Starbucks ruckus? Is the guy gonna slap the barista for steaming the milk too loudly?
 
2009-12-08 8:27:17 PM  
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/would be more impressed if he slapped the kid
 
2009-12-08 8:27:54 PM  

bronyaur1: The guy who hit the other guy is an asshole.
The guy whose kid was annoying everyone else is a selfish dick.


OR, the people being annoyed were all selfish dicks.

Seriously, lighten up. How many times have you been in a Starbucks next to a bunch of loud ass yuppies? Is it any different?
 
2009-12-08 8:28:15 PM  
If I had a penny for every time I wanted to smack some twatwaffle for doing nothing to deal with their screaming baby, i'd at least be on TotalFark right now.

+1 for the smack-er if the headline is accurate.
 
2009-12-08 8:28:17 PM  
Hero tag is for the baby who got that worthless, self-important, prick, dickweed, asshole to leave.
 
2009-12-08 8:28:26 PM  
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"I don't get mad. I get...slappy."
 
2009-12-08 8:28:46 PM  
Today at Starbucks, a man douchebag slaps another man because he did not do anything to comfort or quiet his crying child

FTFY
 
2009-12-08 8:29:11 PM  

LadyHawke: The writer specifically said the kid wasn't crying or anything like that... just looked like he could be cranky. So I think the slapper is the douche in this case.


Cagey B: bronyaur1: The guy whose kid was annoying everyone else is a selfish dick.

The kid wasn't even crying. The aggressor here is both an irrational asshole and a cowardly douchebag for running away when the rest of the customers turned on him.


tfa: "the baby kept crying"

i don't know what you guys are reading, but it certainly isn't the linked article.
 
2009-12-08 8:29:12 PM  
It's a shame things like this don't happen more often. Because then I could cut to the head of the line a lot more often.
 
2009-12-08 8:29:26 PM  

Cagey B: The kid wasn't even crying. The aggressor here is both an irrational asshole and a cowardly douchebag for running away when the rest of the customers turned on him.

FTFA: The police were called and the manager and an employee went out and spoke w/them and Dad. The Slapper was out of there by then...


Do you actually read the articles, or just come into threads to babble off at the mouth over things you have no idea about?

Also..

FTFA: "Full eyewitness account after the jump:" ... "Now, I did not see this,"

Wow! An eyewitness that didn't see anything! This is amazing!
 
2009-12-08 8:29:30 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: /baby = fetus


there was suppose to be an exclamation point before the equal sign
 
2009-12-08 8:30:59 PM  
Earlier this month I actually bought some of that Eastern European coffee substitute, made from beets and barley, just to see if it could possibly be any nastier than Starbucks.

I'd say they're about tied.
 
2009-12-08 8:31:14 PM  
Propain_az:You assholes that aren't man enough are too smart to have children sure do have big farking mouths.

FTFY
 
2009-12-08 8:31:14 PM  
What hero? He just slapped him.

He should have left him bleeding and immobile, unrecognizable aside from DNA samples and dental records.
 
2009-12-08 8:31:25 PM  

LadyHawke: The writer specifically said the kid wasn't crying or anything like that


TFA:"When the baby kept crying another man complained to Dad: when Dad did not leave and stayed to wait for his drink, the non-dad man slapped Dad on the back of the head."


The baby wasn't crying when the "eyewitness", who didn't see the incident, arrived.
 
2009-12-08 8:32:03 PM  

cksewell: When you have a crying child on your hands the last thing you really need is caffeine.


Clearly, the coffee was for the baby. Who isn't cranky before their first cup of joe?
 
2009-12-08 8:32:24 PM  

Propain_az: You assholes that aren't man enough to have children sure do have big farking mouths.


Who knew that the underside of bridges could get internet. Hail the information age, I guess.
 
2009-12-08 8:33:51 PM  
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Approves.
 
2009-12-08 8:34:27 PM  

Propain_az: You assholes that aren't man enough to have children sure do have big farking mouths.



Get the sand out of your vagina, Francis.
 
2009-12-08 8:36:01 PM  

NeauxFear: bronyaur1:

99% of the people in there were on the slapped Dad's side.


"Slapped dad"? What, are you Nancy Grace?
 
2009-12-08 8:36:32 PM  
Children who scream and fuss in public annoy me. Parents who allow it to happen and get angry when others express their annoyance piss me off.

Last month I was at the zoo (right before the weather got cold, last good weekend to visit the zoo). My wife and I were in line for lunch at the Burger King at the zoo. Behind us was a woman and her kid, who wasn't even four years old, was playing with her little brother near the counter right below the pick up section. One couple almost tripped over the kids, the mother lowered her cell phone and yelled at the couple, threatening to hang up on her friend and call the cops to report these two apparent child molesters.

A few more people picked up their food and then I saw it happen. The little girl, being chased by her brother, not watching where she was going, ran right into some dude. Not expecting this, he dropped his tray, spilling the food on this tray, the food for both he and his family. The girl was covered in soda and french fries, almost laughable. This man was not happy. The mother of the girl instantly got onto her high horse, proclaimed that HE was in the wrong because he wasn't watching out, knowing that HER children were playing and they had the right to play in that area and who was he to demand so much an apology, let alone the demands he made that she buy the lunch for he and his family that her little girl ruined.

The manager did what the woman refused to do, and gave the man replacement food. As for the woman and her children, security escorted them out. Something about her refusal to control her children being a potential risk to the animals. I didn't hear it too clearly. The cheers of her being escorted out were rather loud.
 
2009-12-08 8:36:51 PM  

LadyHawke: The writer specifically said the kid wasn't crying or anything like that... just looked like he could be cranky. So I think the slapper is the douche in this case.


Maybe the slap wasn't about the kid, and the slappee was making up excuses, like they do. "He slapped me in front of my child."
 
2009-12-08 8:38:16 PM  
Of course 99% of the patrons where on the slaped guys side when the cops showed up, 100% soon after, even if he was right to slap him, would anyone stand up for him to the cops? In todays age you run the risk of being sued or arrested for having a backbone. And why is this news? Christ, how about an article about Obama's plans for the surge.
 
2009-12-08 8:38:36 PM  
"Hi Honey. Yeah, it's me. Hey, you're gonna hafta come down here to the Montague St Starbucks to pick little sweetums...and while you're at it, you might want to ask one of the Baristas whether I'm in Jail or the Hospital. I'm gonna be in one or the other, because I'm about unloose some chingazos on a douchebag. Okay? Okay. Love you too, bye".
 
2009-12-08 8:39:16 PM  

bronyaur1: The guy who hit the other guy is an asshole.
The guy whose kid was annoying everyone else is a selfish dick.


Why? Because the kid was fidgety? Sheesh.
 
2009-12-08 8:39:29 PM  
So there is a kid in line who's whinging and it enrages some shmuck in line so much that he has to pop the kids dad in the back of the head, then runs off like a pussy?

Yea, sounds like a hero to me.
 
2009-12-08 8:40:11 PM  
"

cappucino for my butthole"
 
2009-12-08 8:40:24 PM  

Ignorant McNugget


Earlier this month I actually bought some of that Eastern European coffee substitute, made from beets and barley, just to see if it could possibly be any nastier than Starbucks.


I'm all for purely academic exercises conducted solely out of curiosity, but... dang.
 
2009-12-08 8:42:31 PM  
Did ANYONE read this?

"Now, I did not see this, but was there immediately afterward."

All the action, the crying and the slapping, occurred when the author wasn't even there. The only thing the author saw was what happened afterward. So who cares if the baby was fidgeting or screaming its head off? The author wasn't even there to see it. And kids can go from maxed out to zero in a matter of seconds once they get what they want.
 
2009-12-08 8:42:40 PM  

Propain_az: You assholes that aren't man enough to have children sure do have big farking mouths.


I agree. The a******s blow with the wind. Parents are either helicopter parents or the kids are snowflakes.

Farkers just like to whine.
 
2009-12-08 8:45:22 PM  
Jesus, these green threads read like a Ted Nugent for Governor forum...
 
2009-12-08 8:45:24 PM  
After a meticulous examination of the account provided in the article, the only things one can extrapolate are:

a) two assholes had an altercation at a Brooklyn Starbucks,

and

b) someone had both the time and sufficient interest to document this online.

Neither conclusion is particularly surprising. They are, however, equally idiotic.
 
2009-12-08 8:45:31 PM  

casinoqueen: Did ANYONE read this?

"Now, I did not see this, but was there immediately afterward."

All the action, the crying and the slapping, occurred when the author wasn't even there. The only thing the author saw was what happened afterward. So who cares if the baby was fidgeting or screaming its head off? The author wasn't even there to see it. And kids can go from maxed out to zero in a matter of seconds once they get what they want.


So what? Why are people discussing whether or not the kid was loud? That's no excuse for slapping a dude unless you feel threatened. If someone is bothering you that much, you talk to them or walk across the street to the other Starbucks and get your coffee there. The guy was a douchebag.
 
2009-12-08 8:47:46 PM  
I didn't know gay people had babies or were prone to violence.


/ducks
 
2009-12-08 8:47:51 PM  
Probability of a slap bet being dished out?
 
2009-12-08 8:48:27 PM  
Came for the "You people who don't have kids don't know what you're talking about and don't know how difficult even the tiniest bit of discipline is, darnit!" comments.

Ahh, thank you Propain_az, for filling the void.
 
2009-12-08 8:49:01 PM  
Coffee rage like this never happens at Tim's. We have punch-ups in line.
Starbuckians are fops. Not surprised they resort to biatch-slapping.
And what the fark is with this 'barista' title? Is there a University degree associated with doling out coffee for minimum wage?

/need a double-double
//and a cruller please
///make it 20 tim bits instead
 
2009-12-08 8:49:24 PM  
louiedog 2009-12-08 08:45:31 PM

So what? Why are people discussing whether or not the kid was loud? That's no excuse for slapping a dude unless you feel threatened. If someone is bothering you that much, you talk to them or walk across the street to the other Starbucks and get your coffee there. The guy was a douchebag.


Sure there is, some people lack discipline and just need to be slapped around. Some people, not saying this guy is one of them, dont understand sensibility or rationality, they just need to be put in their place.
 
2009-12-08 8:49:40 PM  
Well the old attitude adjustment doesn't always work every time.
 
2009-12-08 8:50:28 PM  
Real men drink lattes.
 
2009-12-08 8:50:43 PM  
I think the real crime here is the use of after the jump. Whoever is responsible for this recent trend in digital media needs to be executed. Every wanna-be trendy latte sipping blogger seems to have adopted it, which further criminalizes the use.

/internet angst
//i hope that latte burns the roof of your mouth
 
2009-12-08 8:51:17 PM  
FTFA:(Only one man seemed to disagree, but he quickly demurred when reminded that one adult should not hit another over this, no matter how aggravating it should be.)

Where did this fairytale happen again? Brooklyn? If somebody had slapped somebody else down in this neck of the woods, the result would have been very different, let me assure you. There's sort of an unwritten "no touching if you don't want to get your head split" rule in North Ga.
 
2009-12-08 8:51:44 PM  
This is ridiculous. Was the guy sitting down and sipping his coffee slowly and allowing the baby to cry? NO. He was getting his coffee to go. Let the man get his coffee and walk out. I hope the slapper gets caught and charged with assault.
 
2009-12-08 8:52:13 PM  
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/approves
//hotter than a large cup of coffee and a fresh piece of pound cake for $7
 
2009-12-08 8:53:22 PM  
[image from photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net too old to be available]

unimpressed
/why say it when you can sing it?
 
2009-12-08 8:54:52 PM  
This wouldn't have happened if the slapper thought the dad might be carrying concealed.
 
2009-12-08 8:56:00 PM  

Great Janitor: Children who scream and fuss in public annoy me. Parents who allow it to happen and get angry when others express their annoyance piss me off.

Last month I was at the zoo (right before the weather got cold, last good weekend to visit the zoo). My wife and I were in line for lunch at the Burger King at the zoo. Behind us was a woman and her kid, who wasn't even four years old, was playing with her little brother near the counter right below the pick up section. One couple almost tripped over the kids, the mother lowered her cell phone and yelled at the couple, threatening to hang up on her friend and call the cops to report these two apparent child molesters.

A few more people picked up their food and then I saw it happen. The little girl, being chased by her brother, not watching where she was going, ran right into some dude. Not expecting this, he dropped his tray, spilling the food on this tray, the food for both he and his family. The girl was covered in soda and french fries, almost laughable. This man was not happy. The mother of the girl instantly got onto her high horse, proclaimed that HE was in the wrong because he wasn't watching out, knowing that HER children were playing and they had the right to play in that area and who was he to demand so much an apology, let alone the demands he made that she buy the lunch for he and his family that her little girl ruined.

The manager did what the woman refused to do, and gave the man replacement food. As for the woman and her children, security escorted them out. Something about her refusal to control her children being a potential risk to the animals. I didn't hear it too clearly. The cheers of her being escorted out were rather loud.


There's a big difference between unruly kids underfoot and a crying baby. If your kids are running around and getting in the way of others, then it's time for some heavy disciplining, or just plain leaving. However, if the guy is just waiting for his damn coffee and the kid had just opened it's mouth, I can't fault the dad for sticking it out long enough to get his caffeine and leave.

Hell, the guy probably needed caffeine if the kid was in that kind of mood.
 
2009-12-08 8:57:14 PM  
see incidents like this are part of my ten reasons not to have kids of my own and be content with spoiling my nephews and nieces
 
2009-12-08 8:58:27 PM  
Slapping because you are annoyed is uncalled for and probably is assault.

If I slapped every one who annoyed me, my arm would fall off.

/Yes my kids scream as I haul them outside of the store under one arm, during their meltdown
//It would be a very, very bad idea to slap me while I it
///Slashies!
 
2009-12-08 9:00:57 PM  
//do it that is
 
2009-12-08 9:02:06 PM  

The Invisible Sky Wizard: My money is on this thread going from 0 to Plaid within ten minutes.


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2009-12-08 9:03:17 PM  

bukketmaster: /would be more impressed if he slapped the kid


Came for this pic. Leaving happy.
 
2009-12-08 9:04:54 PM  
What did the five figers say to the face? SLAP!
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2009-12-08 9:05:11 PM  
Everytime I go out to a non-kid friendly place with my toddler, I am ready to scoop her up and charge out of the building if she has a breakdown. But I REALLY don't want to. Whenever I see another parent with a kid having a meltdown, I think, "That poor guy," not "what a selfish dick assaulting my precious ears." Seriously, us parents, we're not trying to hurt you. We're as upset as you are. We don't always know how to make it stop, and running out of a building is difficult, and a last resort.

Garbage trucks, unmuffled motor cycles, crying little kids. Part of the beauty of life. Chin up! You can handle it, you sophisticated gentlemen. I know you can!
 
2009-12-08 9:07:38 PM  
I used to think I hated kids.

I recently discovered that it's actually their parents that I hate.
 
2009-12-08 9:07:39 PM  
free stroller BABY INCLUDED
 
2009-12-08 9:08:26 PM  

Fark No: Slapping because you are annoyed is uncalled for and probably is assault.


Assault is the threat.
Battery is the hitting.

Guy hit him from behind so he didn't see it coming.

Simple battery.
 
2009-12-08 9:10:12 PM  

Imez: Everytime I go out to a non-kid friendly place with my toddler, I am ready to scoop her up and charge out of the building if she has a breakdown. But I REALLY don't want to. Whenever I see another parent with a kid having a meltdown, I think, "That poor guy," not "what a selfish dick assaulting my precious ears." Seriously, us parents, we're not trying to hurt you. We're as upset as you are. We don't always know how to make it stop, and running out of a building is difficult, and a last resort.

Garbage trucks, unmuffled motor cycles, crying little kids. Part of the beauty of life. Chin up! You can handle it, you sophisticated gentlemen. I know you can!


You're comparing your kid to a garbage truck?
 
2009-12-08 9:10:27 PM  

John Dewey: This wouldn't have happened if the slapper thought the dad might be carrying concealed.


+1

Way to make the shot from the tight angle.
 
2009-12-08 9:11:08 PM  
I commend the slapper for this reason only (FTA):

"Waiting for a drink in a Starbucks? Do nothing. What's the absolute longest you've had to wait for a coffee? 5min. Crying children make my ears bleed but, good Zod I can put up with it until my drink's ready. - Julius Seizure"

I will from this day forth insert "Zod" whenever "god" would be the socially acceptable term.

as Zod is my witness...
 
2009-12-08 9:11:47 PM  
I couldn't read that dreck. "Passed?!" The man, the man, the woman, fark I hope this is not what the news is like when the papers/networks die.
 
2009-12-08 9:12:35 PM  
tbyte

You're comparing your kid to a garbage truck?

Oh lord yes. One of the big ones.
 
2009-12-08 9:13:40 PM  
Parents need to understand one thing.

EVERYBODY HATES YOUR KIDS.

The people who say they are cute? THEY HATE YOUR KIDS. The people who say they are smart? THEY HATE YOUR KIDS. The people who don't slap you when your kids are unruly? DON'T CARE, THEY STILL HATE YOUR KIDS.

Look at the person next to you. Did your kid come out of their penis or vagina? If not, THEY HATE YOUR KID.
 
2009-12-08 9:15:09 PM  

1lastcall: The Invisible Sky Wizard: My money is on this thread going from 0 to Plaid within ten minutes.


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2009-12-08 9:15:09 PM  

jgm1976: Parents need to understand one thing.

EVERYBODY HATES YOUR KIDS.

The people who say they are cute? THEY HATE YOUR KIDS. The people who say they are smart? THEY HATE YOUR KIDS. The people who don't slap you when your kids are unruly? DON'T CARE, THEY STILL HATE YOUR KIDS.

Look at the person next to you. Did your kid come out of their penis or vagina? If not, THEY HATE YOUR KID.


Project much?
 
2009-12-08 9:15:15 PM  

estevan6669: I commend the slapper for this reason only (FTA):

"Waiting for a drink in a Starbucks? Do nothing. What's the absolute longest you've had to wait for a coffee? 5min. Crying children make my ears bleed but, good Zod I can put up with it until my drink's ready. - Julius Seizure"

I will from this day forth insert "Zod" whenever "god" would be the socially acceptable term.

as Zod is my witness...


oops... that was from the "Related Posts/BHB's Starbucks Dad Slap Story Goes Viral" section. Still awesome in my book.
 
2009-12-08 9:15:18 PM  
Babies cry. It's a fact of life. You'd better get used to it, Subby.
 
2009-12-08 9:16:04 PM  

LadyHawke: The writer specifically said the kid wasn't crying or anything like that... just looked like he could be cranky. So I think the slapper is the douche in this case.



No, TFA said the child was crying when in the Starbucks, but not *afterwards*. I have seen frequent out-of-control behavior there, but this child was not crying, just looking cranky, when I saw him and he was in the stroller. (keep in mind he said in the beginning he didn't get there until after) TFA says that the child was indeed crying inside before the slap... and the fact that everyone inside agreed that it was appropriate says a lot.

You ever try to get a room full of New Yorkers to agree to ANYTHING? Yeah, that's a big clue right there. The guy probably did need a slap.

I'm not hypersensitive about physical contact. A light slap is not a big deal IMO, and probably a good thing for a lot of people. Hell, we all probably could use one once in a while when we're being jackasses and I've needed one myself here and there. It's not like he knocked him flat or anything, ya know?
 
2009-12-08 9:16:15 PM  
What kind of man gets slapped in the back of the head and doesn't start swinging?
/oh, line at Starbucks...never mind
 
2009-12-08 9:16:42 PM  

tbyte: Imez: Everytime I go out to a non-kid friendly place with my toddler, I am ready to scoop her up and charge out of the building if she has a breakdown. But I REALLY don't want to. Whenever I see another parent with a kid having a meltdown, I think, "That poor guy," not "what a selfish dick assaulting my precious ears." Seriously, us parents, we're not trying to hurt you. We're as upset as you are. We don't always know how to make it stop, and running out of a building is difficult, and a last resort.

Garbage trucks, unmuffled motor cycles, crying little kids. Part of the beauty of life. Chin up! You can handle it, you sophisticated gentlemen. I know you can!

You're comparing your kid to a garbage truck?


No comparison there. Garbage trucks are loud, filthy and expensive whereas children ...

Oh, wait ...
 
2009-12-08 9:17:05 PM  

Imez: Garbage trucks, unmuffled motor cycles, crying little kids. Part of the beauty of life. Chin up! You can handle it, you sophisticated gentlemen. I know you can!


I'm sorry, but you can take that reasonable attitude and leave the Fark, thankyouverymuch.

/we don't need your kind 'round here!
 
2009-12-08 9:17:15 PM  
I would have told the dad that I just called CPS and that he's got two minutes to get lost or he is going to have them up his ass and digging into his personal life with a fine tooth comb. Excessive fussiness or crying are indications of child abuse. Believe me you do not want CPS up your ass because they will call everyone you know and ask them questions about your parenting. Including questions about sexual abuse. Once these question are asked there will always be that thought in the back of the minds of everyone of your relative and friends. I have had to call CPS on people before and the results are not pretty. So you better handle your children in public because once it becomes my business you will not like the results.

*Cue angry parents threatening my life. That's OK. I already know if you are too much of a coward to take care of your child properly then you are too much of a coward to do anything.
 
2009-12-08 9:17:25 PM  

jgm1976: Parents need to understand one thing.

EVERYBODY HATES YOUR KIDS.

The people who say they are cute? THEY HATE YOUR KIDS. The people who say they are smart? THEY HATE YOUR KIDS. The people who don't slap you when your kids are unruly? DON'T CARE, THEY STILL HATE YOUR KIDS.

Look at the person next to you. Did your kid come out of their penis or vagina? If not, THEY HATE YOUR KID.


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2009-12-08 9:19:27 PM  

mongbiohazard: You ever try to get a room full of New Yorkers to agree to ANYTHING? Yeah, that's a big clue right there. The guy probably did need a slap.


I'm pretty sure TFA says the room of New Yorkers agree that the slap was uncalled for. That's why the pusillanimous douchenozzle slappy mcpantywaste split.
 
2009-12-08 9:21:02 PM  

mongbiohazard: I'm not hypersensitive about physical contact. A light slap is not a big deal IMO, and probably a good thing for a lot of people. Hell, we all probably could use one once in a while when we're being jackasses and I've needed one myself here and there.


People going around smacking anyone they think needs it. What could go wrong with that brilliant plan?
 
2009-12-08 9:23:08 PM  

Imez: Everytime I go out to a non-kid friendly place with my toddler, I am ready to scoop her up and charge out of the building if she has a breakdown. But I REALLY don't want to. Whenever I see another parent with a kid having a meltdown, I think, "That poor guy," not "what a selfish dick assaulting my precious ears." Seriously, us parents, we're not trying to hurt you. We're as upset as you are. We don't always know how to make it stop, and running out of a building is difficult, and a last resort.

Garbage trucks, unmuffled motor cycles, crying little kids. Part of the beauty of life. Chin up! You can handle it, you sophisticated gentlemen. I know you can!


Ooh, I like you.
 
2009-12-08 9:23:49 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: LadyHawke: The writer specifically said the kid wasn't crying or anything like that... just looked like he could be cranky. So I think the slapper is the douche in this case.

Cagey B: bronyaur1: The guy whose kid was annoying everyone else is a selfish dick.

The kid wasn't even crying. The aggressor here is both an irrational asshole and a cowardly douchebag for running away when the rest of the customers turned on him.

tfa: "the baby kept crying"

i don't know what you guys are reading, but it certainly isn't the linked article.


FTFA...The police were called and the manager and an employee went out and spoke w/them and Dad. The Slapper was out of there by then, but I hope the store
security camera was on. I have seen frequent out-of-control behavior there, but this child was not crying, just looking cranky, when I saw him and he was in the stroller. Actually, I think the baby /toddler was in the stroller the entire time.
 
2009-12-08 9:24:31 PM  

Merky: I would have told the dad that I just called CPS and that he's got two minutes to get lost or he is going to have them up his ass and digging into his personal life with a fine tooth comb. Excessive fussiness or crying are indications of child abuse. Believe me you do not want CPS up your ass because they will call everyone you know and ask them questions about your parenting. Including questions about sexual abuse. Once these question are asked there will always be that thought in the back of the minds of everyone of your relative and friends. I have had to call CPS on people before and the results are not pretty. So you better handle your children in public because once it becomes my business you will not like the results.

*Cue angry parents threatening my life. That's OK. I already know if you are too much of a coward to take care of your child properly then you are too much of a coward to do anything.


Very, very poor effort that.

I live with my mom.
 
2009-12-08 9:31:54 PM  

Great Janitor: Children who scream and fuss in public annoy me. Parents who allow it to happen and get angry when others express their annoyance piss me off.

Last month I was at the zoo (right before the weather got cold, last good weekend to visit the zoo). My wife and I were in line for lunch at the Burger King at the zoo. Behind us was a woman and her kid, who wasn't even four years old, was playing with her little brother near the counter right below the pick up section. One couple almost tripped over the kids, the mother lowered her cell phone and yelled at the couple, threatening to hang up on her friend and call the cops to report these two apparent child molesters.

A few more people picked up their food and then I saw it happen. The little girl, being chased by her brother, not watching where she was going, ran right into some dude. Not expecting this, he dropped his tray, spilling the food on this tray, the food for both he and his family. The girl was covered in soda and french fries, almost laughable. This man was not happy. The mother of the girl instantly got onto her high horse, proclaimed that HE was in the wrong because he wasn't watching out, knowing that HER children were playing and they had the right to play in that area and who was he to demand so much an apology, let alone the demands he made that she buy the lunch for he and his family that her little girl ruined.

The manager did what the woman refused to do, and gave the man replacement food. As for the woman and her children, security escorted them out. Something about her refusal to control her children being a potential risk to the animals. I didn't hear it too clearly. The cheers of her being escorted out were rather loud.


Security? At Burger King?

I'm calling bullshiat on this.
 
2009-12-08 9:33:02 PM  

LandOfChocolate: Security? At Burger King?


In a zoo.
 
2009-12-08 9:33:39 PM  

LandOfChocolate: Great Janitor: Children who scream and fuss in public annoy me. Parents who allow it to happen and get angry when others express their annoyance piss me off.

Last month I was at the zoo (right before the weather got cold, last good weekend to visit the zoo). My wife and I were in line for lunch at the Burger King at the zoo. Behind us was a woman and her kid, who wasn't even four years old, was playing with her little brother near the counter right below the pick up section. One couple almost tripped over the kids, the mother lowered her cell phone and yelled at the couple, threatening to hang up on her friend and call the cops to report these two apparent child molesters.

A few more people picked up their food and then I saw it happen. The little girl, being chased by her brother, not watching where she was going, ran right into some dude. Not expecting this, he dropped his tray, spilling the food on this tray, the food for both he and his family. The girl was covered in soda and french fries, almost laughable. This man was not happy. The mother of the girl instantly got onto her high horse, proclaimed that HE was in the wrong because he wasn't watching out, knowing that HER children were playing and they had the right to play in that area and who was he to demand so much an apology, let alone the demands he made that she buy the lunch for he and his family that her little girl ruined.

The manager did what the woman refused to do, and gave the man replacement food. As for the woman and her children, security escorted them out. Something about her refusal to control her children being a potential risk to the animals. I didn't hear it too clearly. The cheers of her being escorted out were rather loud.

Security? At Burger King?

I'm calling bullshiat on this.


Actually, it's normal for zoos to have security.
 
2009-12-08 9:34:23 PM  

LandOfChocolate: Great Janitor: Children who scream and fuss in public annoy me. Parents who allow it to happen and get angry when others express their annoyance piss me off.

Last month I was at the zoo (right before the weather got cold, last good weekend to visit the zoo). My wife and I were in line for lunch at the Burger King at the zoo. Behind us was a woman and her kid, who wasn't even four years old, was playing with her little brother near the counter right below the pick up section. One couple almost tripped over the kids, the mother lowered her cell phone and yelled at the couple, threatening to hang up on her friend and call the cops to report these two apparent child molesters.

A few more people picked up their food and then I saw it happen. The little girl, being chased by her brother, not watching where she was going, ran right into some dude. Not expecting this, he dropped his tray, spilling the food on this tray, the food for both he and his family. The girl was covered in soda and french fries, almost laughable. This man was not happy. The mother of the girl instantly got onto her high horse, proclaimed that HE was in the wrong because he wasn't watching out, knowing that HER children were playing and they had the right to play in that area and who was he to demand so much an apology, let alone the demands he made that she buy the lunch for he and his family that her little girl ruined.

The manager did what the woman refused to do, and gave the man replacement food. As for the woman and her children, security escorted them out. Something about her refusal to control her children being a potential risk to the animals. I didn't hear it too clearly. The cheers of her being escorted out were rather loud.

Security? At Burger King?

I'm calling bullshiat on this.


Quite common in my area, esp nights and weekends.
 
2009-12-08 9:37:09 PM  
Whether the guy was right to hit the Dad or not, Dad should never have called the police. Man up, dude. It's just a tap on the head. Benny Hill did worse for comedy.
 
2009-12-08 9:38:36 PM  

ZAZ: Fortunately I don't have to judge the child's behavior because I think it's OK to slap people who go to Starbucks.


Well said.
 
2009-12-08 9:38:48 PM  
This article is pathetic. It's a blog that quotes an email from a person that didn't even see the incident happen. It's like, third-hand information.

And since when was a minor scuffle in a Starbucks fark-worthy?

I guess if it starts a flamewar, and gets clicks, that's all that matters eh?
 
2009-12-08 9:39:05 PM  
If you bring a baby to movie and don't walk out when it starts crying. You deserve more than a slap.
 
2009-12-08 9:39:08 PM  
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IT WAS A BABY!!
 
2009-12-08 9:40:37 PM  

CynicalLA: If you bring a baby to movie and don't walk out when it starts crying. You deserve more than a slap.


FTFY.

/parent
 
2009-12-08 9:40:57 PM  

CynicalLA: If you bring a baby to movie and don't walk out when it starts crying. Yyou deserve more than a slap.


FTFY
 
2009-12-08 9:41:33 PM  

toejam: IT WAS A BABY!!


I thought it was a chicken ;-)
 
2009-12-08 9:41:33 PM  

NeauxFear: CynicalLA: If you bring a baby to movie and don't walk out when it starts crying. You deserve more than a slap.

FTFY.

/parent


20 seconds. Shouldn't have previewed...
 
2009-12-08 9:41:39 PM  
THIS
(from Wiki)

Tim Hortons franchises spread rapidly and eventually overtook McDonald's as Canada's largest food service operator. The company opened twice as many Canadian outlets as McDonald's[5] and system-wide sales also surpassed those of McDonald's Canadian operations as of 2002.[6] The chain accounted for 22.6% of all fast food industry revenues in Canada in 2005.[5] Tim Hortons commands 76% of the Canadian market for baked goods (based on the number of customers served) and holds 62% of the Canadian coffee market (compared to Starbucks, in the number two position, at 7%).[7]
As of September 27, 2009, Tim Hortons has 3,527 systemwide restaurants, including 2,971 in Canada and 556 in the United States.[8]

/No frappa-latte-cappa whatevers, either.
//Just sayin'
///tired of all the hatin'
 
2009-12-08 9:41:51 PM  
Don't care about the kid, don't have any.

Don't care about starbucks, never been.

That is all.
 
2009-12-08 9:41:53 PM  

NeauxFear: CynicalLA: If you bring a baby to movie and don't walk out when it starts crying. You deserve more than a slap.

FTFY.

/parent


I wish there were more parents like you.
 
2009-12-08 9:42:26 PM  

CynicalLA: If you bring a baby to a movie...


FTFAOY

(Fixed that for all of you)
 
2009-12-08 9:42:34 PM  
Probably wasn't the kids real dad anyway. Mom was the community pin cushion.
 
2009-12-08 9:43:26 PM  

Aeonite: CynicalLA: If you bring a baby to a movie...

FTFAOY

(Fixed that for all of you)


Thanks.
 
2009-12-08 9:43:35 PM  

cancerous86: NeauxFear: CynicalLA: If you bring a baby to movie and don't walk out when it starts crying. You deserve more than a slap.

FTFY.

/parent

20 seconds. Shouldn't have previewed...


and yet neither of you fixed the damn sentence.
 
2009-12-08 9:43:44 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: The_Original_Roxtar: LadyHawke: The writer specifically said the kid wasn't crying or anything like that... just looked like he could be cranky. So I think the slapper is the douche in this case.

Cagey B: bronyaur1: The guy whose kid was annoying everyone else is a selfish dick.

The kid wasn't even crying. The aggressor here is both an irrational asshole and a cowardly douchebag for running away when the rest of the customers turned on him.

tfa: "the baby kept crying"

i don't know what you guys are reading, but it certainly isn't the linked article.

FTFA...The police were called and the manager and an employee went out and spoke w/them and Dad. The Slapper was out of there by then, but I hope the store
security camera was on. I have seen frequent out-of-control behavior there, but this child was not crying, just looking cranky, when I saw him and he was in the stroller. Actually, I think the baby /toddler was in the stroller the entire time.


i'll quote it again:

tfa: "the baby kept crying"

the "eye witness" who wasn't there at the time can't keep his story straight for a 2 paragraph span. i also don't buy his "99%" estimate, as it's unlikely that 100 people can fit in a starbucks.

so what it comes down to is that we don't have any statements from people who were actually involved, just the ramblings of some nutter who wanted to talk to the papers.
 
2009-12-08 9:44:12 PM  

Aeonite: CynicalLA: If you bring a baby to a movie...

FTFAOY

(Fixed that for all of you)


lol, good.
 
2009-12-08 9:44:13 PM  

Aeonite: CynicalLA: If you bring a baby fish head to a movie...


... you won't have to pay to get it in.

/FTFY
 
2009-12-08 9:45:06 PM  

CynicalLA: I wish there were more parents like you.


Hell, I'm nervous taking my toddler to McDonald's. It'll be different when he can respond to discipline a little better, but until then, stay away from quiet zones and walk out if a full-blown tantrum breaks out in public. Whiny kid in Starbucks? Taking my coffee to go is as big a concession as I'll give (generally speaking).

/lol
 
2009-12-08 9:46:17 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: so what it comes down to is that we don't have any statements from people who were actually involved, just the ramblings of some nutter who wanted to talk to the papers.


Meh, if the slapper was in the right, why did he flee the scene?
 
2009-12-08 9:46:26 PM  
Really?

He "slapped" some guy?

Did he put his purse down first?
 
2009-12-08 9:46:56 PM  
I have managed a toy store for the last 2 years and have come to the conclusion that about 80-85% of parents are unfit to have children. Most people just let their kids run wild, tearing open packages, throwing juice boxes on the floor, screaming as if they are passing a sideways gallstone. All the while mom is sitting on her cell phone not paying attention.

This is my favorite

"Hunter, you have to the count of 3. 1..2..3..3..3..3..3..3. Ok Hillary Im gonna have to call you back. 3..3..3..3"

Of course I work in a area of microsoft and boeing exec trophy wifes so Im sure my findings are a bit skewed. I actually get a warm fuzzy feeling inside when someone actually does something to rectify their kids behavuor.

I expect some crying and whining out of young kids, but christ, I just want to put most parents in thumbscrews.

All that being said, the "slapper" in this article is indeed a douche.
 
2009-12-08 9:47:21 PM  

CynicalLA: NeauxFear: CynicalLA: If you bring a baby to movie and don't walk out when it starts crying. You deserve more than a slap.

FTFY.

/parent

I wish there were more parents like you.



Seconded.

Too bad that can't happen on commercial flights.

/Maybe they can be sent down to the luggage compartment.
 
2009-12-08 9:47:32 PM  

tbyte: Hero tag appropriate. If your kid even so much as looks like he's going to cry, you should be beat to death with a crowbar. I know the "Dad"'s type, taking kids out in public when they know other people are just trying to go about their lives without having to look at them. As for the commenter on the blog comparing kids to dog owners: maybe you'd have a point if the kid was tied up on the sidewalk alongside the dog. Take care of your kids, keep them quiet, and do it far away from the rest of us.


For all you saying to take care of the kid and keep them away and whatever, you need to learn that kids do stuff that adults don't. It's that simple. Kids do what they feel like, and sometimes it's just not worth trying to stop them because they don't listen anyway. So don't complain about it, they will tire out when they're done. When you take kids places, sometimes they cry, play, climb on stuff, etc. and if you get annoyed, or your stuff gets broken, or whatever you're whining about, maybe you should have just stayed home, because you have no right to tell me what my kids can and can't do. If I want to take them somewhere and don't feel like disciplining them, then tough luck make your own coffee at home.

/Feel like I've been in these threads enough times to have the arguments memorized
 
2009-12-08 9:47:44 PM  

LandOfChocolate: Great Janitor: Children who scream and fuss in public annoy me. Parents who allow it to happen and get angry when others express their annoyance piss me off.

Last month I was at the zoo (right before the weather got cold, last good weekend to visit the zoo). My wife and I were in line for lunch at the Burger King at the zoo. Behind us was a woman and her kid, who wasn't even four years old, was playing with her little brother near the counter right below the pick up section. One couple almost tripped over the kids, the mother lowered her cell phone and yelled at the couple, threatening to hang up on her friend and call the cops to report these two apparent child molesters.

A few more people picked up their food and then I saw it happen. The little girl, being chased by her brother, not watching where she was going, ran right into some dude. Not expecting this, he dropped his tray, spilling the food on this tray, the food for both he and his family. The girl was covered in soda and french fries, almost laughable. This man was not happy. The mother of the girl instantly got onto her high horse, proclaimed that HE was in the wrong because he wasn't watching out, knowing that HER children were playing and they had the right to play in that area and who was he to demand so much an apology, let alone the demands he made that she buy the lunch for he and his family that her little girl ruined.

The manager did what the woman refused to do, and gave the man replacement food. As for the woman and her children, security escorted them out. Something about her refusal to control her children being a potential risk to the animals. I didn't hear it too clearly. The cheers of her being escorted out were rather loud.

Security? At Burger King?

I'm calling bullshiat on this.


Since the BK was at the zoo, I'm assuming it was the zoo's security people that escorted the woman & her kids out.
 
2009-12-08 9:48:05 PM  

heinekev: I think the real crime here is the use of after the jump.


You're goddamn right it is. I develop a mini-aneurysm every time I see that stupid farking phrase.
 
2009-12-08 9:49:39 PM  

The_Sponge: Too bad that can't happen on commercial flights.


There's a fix for that: give them Benadryl and only fly between the hours of 9pm and 5am. If your flight takes longer than that, you should have left him/her with a sitter anyway. :)
 
2009-12-08 9:51:40 PM  

tbyte: For all you saying to take care of the kid and keep them away and whatever, you need to learn that kids do stuff that adults don't. It's that simple. Kids do what they feel like, and sometimes it's just not worth trying to stop them because they don't listen anyway. So don't complain about it, they will tire out when they're done. When you take kids places, sometimes they cry, play, climb on stuff, etc. and if you get annoyed, or your stuff gets broken, or whatever you're whining about, maybe you should have just stayed home, because you have no right to tell me what my kids can and can't do. If I want to take them somewhere and don't feel like disciplining them, then tough luck make your own coffee at home.


THIS is why I hate parents.

Keeping your kids in check is YOUR JOB. If you're too farking lazy to do so, stay at home so that YOU are the only person who has to suffer.

Jesus Christ, you are a piece of shiat.
 
2009-12-08 9:51:59 PM  

nmathew01: You're goddamn right it is. I develop a mini-aneurysm every time I see that stupid farking phrase.


It makes sense...when there's a link to a full story elsewhere. Problem is, you never see it used properly. As a former copy editor, though, it irks me to no end when they say "below the fold" on a blog, too.
 
2009-12-08 9:52:01 PM  
I don't go to Starbucks... but some weekends, it is really hard to concentrate in church because some idiot parent is letting their kid run wild without ANY reaction or remonstrance or corrective action. I can't keep my mind on God except to wish he'd hurl some lighting up that parent's ass and make them do their duty. I'm not asking for much: when it's a baby, you bring along a bottle to shut it up when it's hungry, or you pick it up and hold it if it needs comforting, or you leave it alone if it is sleeping, and you time feedings so it is less likely to fill the diaper during the service. These things are not hard to do.

When they are older, you start teaching them that it is God's House and we don't run around and climb on the furniture, we don't yell to test the acoustics in the middle of the sermon, we don't chew gum or wear hats or bother the people behind us trying to pray. We go potty beforehand and we are quiet unless we are praying or singing together. If we're bored, we have cloth books or a soft, SILENT squeeze toy to keep us busy. The older you are, the more you are expected to follow along with your family and participate in the service.

When you are a teen, you turn off the phones and ipods, you don't chew gum, you dress a notch above normal out of respect, and you don't show up late.

I was raised to worship this way, and I hold my kids to at LEAST this standard, makes me pissed when parents of other kids seem to pretend they are not there, don't hush them when they shout or make tantrums, or take them out and change them when they fill their diaper and cry because the poo burns. They let kids old enough to participate get away with playing games or coloring or doing anything but pay attention. And best of all these bad parents always choose to sit up front like attention whores, so their whole congregation has to be distracted by their shiat. When my kids were little, we sat in the back so I could take them out to the vestibule if I had to. As they got older and learned better behavior, we picked a row further and further forward. Why is stuff like this so hard for some parents to grok???
 
2009-12-08 9:52:03 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: tfa: "the baby kept crying"

i don't know what you guys are reading, but it certainly isn't the linked article.


Later on, the article says "the baby wasn't even crying", so this 'eyewitness' contradicts himself. I think that's really all we need to know. It's a biased, inaccurate account of someone who wasn't even there. It shouldn't be trusted.

Nevertheless, violence isn't appropriate in any situation, and this cannot be justified. Still, screaming children are f*cking irritating, especially when parents seem completely oblivious and I imagine the assaulter lost his temper. I'm not sure when it became acceptable for people to do whatever the hell they wanted just because they've procreated, but I'm noticing more and more that people with babies somehow need to make a mess, make whatever noise they like and take up tons of room, all without considering anyone around them. Your baby is not a sign of superiority that entitles you to do whatever you want and have everyone else move out of your way, clean up after you and put up with whatever mischief your kids decide to get into.

Not every parent is like that; I've seen lots of very well behaved kids and parents who have a tight rein on them (2 today in Starbucks, in fact), but ffs, make an effort. If you only care about your kids and not about anyone else, consider that you're not doing your precious darling any favours in life. Teach the damn kids some manners or their lives will be unpleasant.

Imez: Seriously, us parents, we're not trying to hurt you. We're as upset as you are. We don't always know how to make it stop, and running out of a building is difficult, and a last resort.


And that's fine, but if your child is screaming and you ignore it as if the child is cooing delightfully that can be cause for frustration for everyone else.

If I see you're making an effort or are concerned, I'm sympathetic; I know you can't necessarily stop the screaming immediately or leave immediately (although sometimes you have to inconvenience yourself so you don't inconvenience everyone around you. It's not their kid), but as long as you're doing something to try and soothe it, then I'm happy.

If you look like you don't care and just ignore the kid, as I've seen a lot of parents do (and I wouldn't be surprised happened here, but there isn't enough info and the article is unreliable), I'm pissed. It's more about the parent, because the kid doesn't know any better. We don't all think kids are delightful miracles and not everyone wants your kids shoved in their face and to see kids everywhere they go. You love kids and that's great, but I don't enjoy them that much. There have to be some refuges for adults away from children.
 
2009-12-08 9:53:04 PM  

tbyte: Kids do what they feel like, and sometimes it's just not worth trying to stop them because they don't listen anyway. So don't complain about it, they will tire out when they're done.


That's a terrible approach and completely wrongheaded. Of course kids listen and it is your job as a parent to discipline them even when you don't feel like it.
 
2009-12-08 9:53:20 PM  
My one year old was attacked by an insane woman on a plane last week.

When we boarded she immediately started in with loud verbal insults and claiming how only an "asshole would bring their little shiat on a plane". (for the record my little shiat was silent the entire trip)

After less than a hour of continued harassment the woman snapped and attacked my baby with a bag of potato chips while I was in the John. (the kis was with my wife)

The led her off in cuffs. If I had seen the attack it it would have been a body bag. Every passenger and crew member wanted a piece of that biatch.

No one cares if you are frustrated by children.

/Cool story ITG
 
2009-12-08 9:53:54 PM  

Swede: Really?

He "slapped" some guy?

Did he put his purse down first?



"You don't slap a man. Ok. I mean, even when slapping was fashionable, ya know, they did it in Paris, some guy would come up: WHAP PAP, 'I challenge you to a duel.' They would have a gunfight after that -- somebody had to go!" - Charlie Murphy
 
2009-12-08 9:55:08 PM  

tbyte: For all you saying to take care of the kid and keep them away and whatever, you need to learn that kids do stuff that adults don't. It's that simple. Kids do what they feel like, and sometimes it's just not worth trying to stop them because they don't listen anyway. So don't complain about it, they will tire out when they're done. When you take kids places, sometimes they cry, play,


OK, with you so far...

tbyte: climb on stuff, etc. and if you get annoyed,


warning flags going up...

tbyte: or your stuff gets broken, or whatever you're whining about, maybe you should have just stayed home, because you have no right to tell me what my kids can and can't do. If I want to take them somewhere and don't feel like disciplining them, then tough luck make your own coffee at home.


Nope, sorry. Kids will be aggravating, sure, and they have to learn acceptable public behavior, sure, but there is a limit. You apparently like to dance all over it.
 
2009-12-08 9:56:00 PM  
I don't care what my kid is doing, if some guy slaps me, I'm going beat his ass to a bloody pulp in self defense of his assault. Yea, that's the ticket.
 
2009-12-08 9:58:30 PM  
Troll headline is obvious
 
2009-12-08 9:58:37 PM  

NeauxFear: The_Sponge: Too bad that can't happen on commercial flights.

There's a fix for that: give them Benadryl and only fly between the hours of 9pm and 5am. If your flight takes longer than that, you should have left him/her with a sitter anyway. :)



Good call. An additional fix:

Hand out ear plugs to everyone in the area. A friend of mine did that on a flight to Australia. (He was bringing his baby son to visit the in-laws, so he bought a large bag of ear plugs.)
 
2009-12-08 10:00:03 PM  

GaryPDX: I don't care what my kid is doing, if some guy slaps me, I'm going beat his ass to a bloody pulp in self defense of his assault. Yea, that's the ticket.


You should kick him in the statisticals.
 
2009-12-08 10:01:39 PM  
A man SLAPPING another man?

First thing I thought of?

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If anybody has seen the movie where Vida Boheme helps out a battered wife, her idea of foreplay to get the ball rolling is backhanding the offending husband, and then proceeds to beat the everloving shiat out of him out the door.

/Probably the best part of the movie.
 
2009-12-08 10:02:28 PM  
When I was a kid, my Dad was more than willing to spank me in public if I got out of line.

IIRC, the humiliation of people looking at me hurt worse than the physical pain.
 
2009-12-08 10:02:54 PM  
While I wholeheartedly approve of the community getting involved when lazy-ass parents willfully fail on the job, getting physical about it isn't a great idea.
 
2009-12-08 10:04:00 PM  

toejam: GaryPDX: I don't care what my kid is doing, if some guy slaps me, I'm going beat his ass to a bloody pulp in self defense of his assault. Yea, that's the ticket.

You should kick him in the statisticals.


That would be the first shot..lol.
 
2009-12-08 10:05:58 PM  

The_Sponge: When I was a kid, my Dad was more than willing to spank me in public if I got out of line.

IIRC, the humiliation of people looking at me hurt worse than the physical pain.


I hear ya. Me too. Only problem is that too many people are willing to call CPS. When my kid is old enough to understand it, he'll get the look. Second offense, he'll get the threat/promise. For now, though, he's two and much more than a swat on the hand (if he's grabbing something he shouldn't) or diapered butt just doesn't work.
 
2009-12-08 10:06:53 PM  

toejam


GaryPDX: I don't care what my kid is doing, if some guy slaps me, I'm going beat his ass to a bloody pulp in self defense of his assault. Yea, that's the ticket.

You should kick him in the statisticals.


Wouldn't that be mean? o_O
 
2009-12-08 10:08:05 PM  

CynicalLA: If you bring a baby to movie and don't walk out when it starts crying. You deserve more than a slap.


All right WTF are you doing bringing a BABY to a MOVIE? Your baby doesn't understand farking movies. I can understand you needing to bring your baby on a plane, to a store, whatever, but a farking movie? You're just being retarded. The kid is going to start screaming and your movie is going to suck. Go home. They have DVDs. With Pause buttons for when little Harrison or Jayden or Gladen starts screaming. AND SOMETHING FOR THE KID TO DO
 
2009-12-08 10:08:41 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Wouldn't that be mean? o_O


Only where the margin of error is high.
 
2009-12-08 10:09:45 PM  

NeauxFear: Only problem is that too many people are willing to call CPS.



Another shiatty trend in society.
 
2009-12-08 10:10:25 PM  

T.M.S.: My one year old was attacked by an insane woman on a plane last week.

When we boarded she immediately started in with loud verbal insults and claiming how only an "asshole would bring their little shiat on a plane". (for the record my little shiat was silent the entire trip)

After less than a hour of continued harassment the woman snapped and attacked my baby with a bag of potato chips while I was in the John. (the kis was with my wife)

The led her off in cuffs. If I had seen the attack it it would have been a body bag. Every passenger and crew member wanted a piece of that biatch.

No one cares if you are frustrated by children.

/Cool story ITG


I've seen your pic so I have to call BS on this story. You're way too big to fit in the john on a plane.
 
2009-12-08 10:11:00 PM  

Juniper Jupiter: A man SLAPPING another man?

First thing I thought of?

If anybody has seen the movie where Vida Boheme helps out a battered wife, her idea of foreplay to get the ball rolling is backhanding the offending husband, and then proceeds to beat the everloving shiat out of him out the door.

/Probably the best part of the movie.


it makes me sad i saw that movie
 
2009-12-08 10:11:17 PM  

NeauxFear


Englebert Slaptyback: Wouldn't that be mean? o_O

Only where the margin of error is high.


That was an above-average response.
 
2009-12-08 10:12:00 PM  
I don't give a frak if you hate my kid. I hate you. Why should I give a crap if you are annoyed? Go bite a rope.
 
2009-12-08 10:12:03 PM  

NeauxFear: The_Sponge: When I was a kid, my Dad was more than willing to spank me in public if I got out of line.

IIRC, the humiliation of people looking at me hurt worse than the physical pain.

I hear ya. Me too. Only problem is that too many people are willing to call CPS. When my kid is old enough to understand it, he'll get the look. Second offense, he'll get the threat/promise. For now, though, he's two and much more than a swat on the hand (if he's grabbing something he shouldn't) or diapered butt just doesn't work.


My mother just wordlessly took us out to the car. If we didn't calm down, she drove home, and we didn't get to go with her next time. If it meant leaving a cart of groceries in the aisle or a meal uneaten on the table at McDonald's, that was OK. She simply did NOT put up with being made a fool of in public. And she only had to do it two or three times.
 
2009-12-08 10:14:01 PM  

Flarn: I don't give a frak if you hate my kid. I hate you. Why should I give a crap if you are annoyed? Go bite a rope.



Troll Dad is trolling.
 
2009-12-08 10:15:08 PM  

Any Pie Left: I don't go to Starbucks... but some weekends, it is really hard to concentrate in church because some idiot parent is letting their kid run wild without ANY reaction or remonstrance or corrective action. I can't keep my mind on God except to wish he'd hurl some lighting up that parent's ass and make them do their duty. I'm not asking for much: when it's a baby, you bring along a bottle to shut it up when it's hungry, or you pick it up and hold it if it needs comforting, or you leave it alone if it is sleeping, and you time feedings so it is less likely to fill the diaper during the service. These things are not hard to do.

When they are older, you start teaching them that it is God's House and we don't run around and climb on the furniture, we don't yell to test the acoustics in the middle of the sermon, we don't chew gum or wear hats or bother the people behind us trying to pray. We go potty beforehand and we are quiet unless we are praying or singing together. If we're bored, we have cloth books or a soft, SILENT squeeze toy to keep us busy. The older you are, the more you are expected to follow along with your family and participate in the service.

When you are a teen, you turn off the phones and ipods, you don't chew gum, you dress a notch above normal out of respect, and you don't show up late.

I was raised to worship this way, and I hold my kids to at LEAST this standard, makes me pissed when parents of other kids seem to pretend they are not there, don't hush them when they shout or make tantrums, or take them out and change them when they fill their diaper and cry because the poo burns. They let kids old enough to participate get away with playing games or coloring or doing anything but pay attention. And best of all these bad parents always choose to sit up front like attention whores, so their whole congregation has to be distracted by their shiat. When my kids were little, we sat in the back so I could take them out to the vestibule if I had to. As they got older and learned better behavior, we picked a row further and further forward. Why is stuff like this so hard for some parents to grok???


Strangely enough, back when I was a kid, the minister's children were always the worst behaved.
 
2009-12-08 10:15:26 PM  
Having just been on a plane with at least four distinct screaming children within a 3-seat radius, I certainly have entertained the notion of doing far worse, so I cannot cast the first stone.
 
2009-12-08 10:18:01 PM  

kellynoel: THIS is why I hate parents.

Keeping your kids in check is YOUR JOB. If you're too farking lazy to do so, stay at home so that YOU are the only person who has to suffer.

Jesus Christ, you are a piece of shiat.


He was arguing with himself, and said that he had seen both sides of the argument enough time.

/Thought I should point that out.
 
2009-12-08 10:29:47 PM  

The English Major: GLove88mph: yes, because a baby is a great excuse to spark violence.

Wars have started over less.


Yes they have, but that's not to say the reasons were just.
 
2009-12-08 10:30:32 PM  

T.M.S.: My one year old was attacked by an insane woman on a plane last week.

When we boarded she immediately started in with loud verbal insults and claiming how only an "asshole would bring their little shiat on a plane". (for the record my little shiat was silent the entire trip)

After less than a hour of continued harassment the woman snapped and attacked my baby with a bag of potato chips while I was in the John. (the kis was with my wife)

The led her off in cuffs. If I had seen the attack it it would have been a body bag. Every passenger and crew member wanted a piece of that biatch.

No one cares if you are frustrated by children.

/Cool story ITG



So what's the woman's Fark handle?
 
2009-12-08 10:33:24 PM  
Wow. tbyte wasn't even TRYING to troll and he got tons of bites. High five.
 
2009-12-08 10:35:53 PM  
FTFA - I have seen frequent out-of-control behavior there, but this child was not crying, just looking cranky, when I saw him and he was in the stroller.

Sounds like the slapper/"non-Dad" went a bit overboard.

I have seen loud/unruly children in the local Starbucks and elsewhere and all I can think is how my parents would've carried me outside and had a "talk" with me privately before returning. Is it really THAT hard to leave your latte unattended for a few minutes?
 
2009-12-08 10:36:45 PM  

moothemagiccow: CynicalLA: If you bring a baby to movie and don't walk out when it starts crying. You deserve more than a slap.

All right WTF are you doing bringing a BABY to a MOVIE? Your baby doesn't understand farking movies. I can understand you needing to bring your baby on a plane, to a store, whatever, but a farking movie? You're just being retarded. The kid is going to start screaming and your movie is going to suck. Go home. They have DVDs. With Pause buttons for when little Harrison or Jayden or Gladen starts screaming. AND SOMETHING FOR THE KID TO DO


This is a slight diversion: OK so I went with my cousin and his wife to this movie one night. I feel like it was "master and commander" or something- not a kid movie at all. It started at 10pm. So I was looking around and I muttered something to them like " I can't believe how many of these people actually brought their children here!" And the wife was like "Why? when we have kids I am going to let them stay out late- especially if its something I want to do".

Now my cousin and his wife are "trying". What do they want to name the little snowflake when they have it? Taylin.

W.T.F.

/I know cool story etc.
 
2009-12-08 10:39:53 PM  

Rubberband Girl: FTFA - I have seen frequent out-of-control behavior there, but this child was not crying, just looking cranky, when I saw him and he was in the stroller.

Sounds like the slapper/"non-Dad" went a bit overboard.

I have seen loud/unruly children in the local Starbucks and elsewhere and all I can think is how my parents would've carried me outside and had a "talk" with me privately before returning. Is it really THAT hard to leave your latte unattended for a few minutes?


Sometimes, like naptime, a talk won't do shiat. Especially if the child is under 2 years old. The guy needed to either buy the kid something to keep it occupied while he was waiting or get his coffee and leave and be done with it.
 
2009-12-08 10:40:05 PM  

maxximillian: The English Major: GLove88mph: yes, because a baby is a great excuse to spark violence.

Wars have started over less.

Yes they have, but that's not to say the reasons were just.


I know. I figured the "Hero" tag would result in thoughtful, productive discussion.
 
2009-12-08 10:42:35 PM  

ace in your face: Now my cousin and his wife are "trying". What do they want to name the little snowflake when they have it? Taylin.

W.T.F.


Kill them now. It's the only way.

/i keed, i keed...
 
2009-12-08 10:43:37 PM  

ace in your face: moothemagiccow: CynicalLA: If you bring a baby to movie and don't walk out when it starts crying. You deserve more than a slap.

All right WTF are you doing bringing a BABY to a MOVIE? Your baby doesn't understand farking movies. I can understand you needing to bring your baby on a plane, to a store, whatever, but a farking movie? You're just being retarded. The kid is going to start screaming and your movie is going to suck. Go home. They have DVDs. With Pause buttons for when little Harrison or Jayden or Gladen starts screaming. AND SOMETHING FOR THE KID TO DO

This is a slight diversion: OK so I went with my cousin and his wife to this movie one night. I feel like it was "master and commander" or something- not a kid movie at all. It started at 10pm. So I was looking around and I muttered something to them like " I can't believe how many of these people actually brought their children here!" And the wife was like "Why? when we have kids I am going to let them stay out late- especially if its something I want to do".

Now my cousin and his wife are "trying". What do they want to name the little snowflake when they have it? Taylin.

W.T.F.

/I know cool story etc.


when i went to see ninja assassin there must have been thirty kids in the theater the oldest where probably 10 or 12
 
2009-12-08 10:48:45 PM  
Are ya ready, Ike?
 
2009-12-08 10:51:01 PM  

NeauxFear: ace in your face: Now my cousin and his wife are "trying". What do they want to name the little snowflake when they have it? Taylin.

W.T.F.

Kill them now. It's the only way.

/i keed, i keed...


IN all seriousness though, how do you tell someone "that is probably the dumbest baby name I have heard out of anyone I know"?

/I know that there are people out there with worse ones - I just don't know them.
 
2009-12-08 10:51:16 PM  
Eh, a smack to the back of the head? Non-event for life long New Yorkers.

Just last night I saw a man get stabbed for no good reason on the uptown #5 train in front of a two dozen people during the rush hour commute by a nut-bag. What happened to you yesterday while going home?

Yeah, that's what I thought.
 
2009-12-08 10:55:08 PM  

Persnickety:


So what's the woman's Fark handle?


Dunno but she was in pretty bad shape. Except for the part about her attacking a one year old I felt pretty bad for her. She was obviously distressed and a little bit insane.

She wrote us a long and rambling note blaming the crew, the passengers, us, her husband and pretty much everyone but herself.
 
2009-12-08 10:55:22 PM  

Merky: I would have told the dad that I just called CPS and that he's got two minutes to get lost or he is going to have them up his ass and digging into his personal life with a fine tooth comb. Excessive fussiness or crying are indications of child abuse. Believe me you do not want CPS up your ass because they will call everyone you know and ask them questions about your parenting. Including questions about sexual abuse. Once these question are asked there will always be that thought in the back of the minds of everyone of your relative and friends. I have had to call CPS on people before and the results are not pretty. So you better handle your children in public because once it becomes my business you will not like the results.

*Cue angry parents threatening my life. That's OK. I already know if you are too much of a coward to take care of your child properly then you are too much of a coward to do anything.


Haha, you're dumb.
/or really funny...not sure which. Was that sarcasm?
 
2009-12-08 10:56:27 PM  
FTFA: When the baby kept crying another man complained to Dad...

So, saying the baby wasn't cry means you DNTFA.

Waiting for the first ticket for Disturbing The Peace to be given to some idiot for letting their crotch-fruit scream in a public place.
 
2009-12-08 10:56:36 PM  
Newsflash: Sometimes kids cry and/or scream in public, yes even for those of you who think you have your children under perfect control 100% of the time. Guess what - If my kid's having a bad day, I'm still gettin' my coffee before I leave.
 
2009-12-08 10:58:10 PM  
Children should be seen and not heard.

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2009-12-08 11:01:37 PM  

Merky: I would have told the dad that I just called CPS and that he's got two minutes to get lost or he is going to have them up his ass and digging into his personal life with a fine tooth comb. Excessive fussiness or crying are indications of child abuse. Believe me you do not want CPS up your ass because they will call everyone you know and ask them questions about your parenting. Including questions about sexual abuse. Once these question are asked there will always be that thought in the back of the minds of everyone of your relative and friends. I have had to call CPS on people before and the results are not pretty. So you better handle your children in public because once it becomes my business you will not like the results.

*Cue angry parents threatening my life. That's OK. I already know if you are too much of a coward to take care of your child properly then you are too much of a coward to do anything.


May Karma find it's way to your life after you have children.
 
2009-12-08 11:02:57 PM  

ace in your face: IN all seriousness though, how do you tell someone "that is probably the dumbest baby name I have heard out of anyone I know"?

/I know that there are people out there with worse ones - I just don't know them.


Don't be direct, but every time you see a stupid "cutesy" name with them around, use it as an opening. Read the newspaper's birth announcements, and only make fun of "Kaylen" and "Braden." Of course, I named my kid Jackson, but we call him Jack.
 
2009-12-08 11:04:29 PM  

neomatt: Merky: I would have told the dad that I just called CPS and that he's got two minutes to get lost or he is going to have them up his ass and digging into his personal life with a fine tooth comb. Excessive fussiness or crying are indications of child abuse. Believe me you do not want CPS up your ass because they will call everyone you know and ask them questions about your parenting. Including questions about sexual abuse. Once these question are asked there will always be that thought in the back of the minds of everyone of your relative and friends. I have had to call CPS on people before and the results are not pretty. So you better handle your children in public because once it becomes my business you will not like the results.

*Cue angry parents threatening my life. That's OK. I already know if you are too much of a coward to take care of your child properly then you are too much of a coward to do anything.

Haha, you're dumb.
/or really funny...not sure which. Was that sarcasm?


I'm going with coward. I highly doubt it has called anyone because it lacks the testicular fortitude to leave its mothers basement.
 
2009-12-08 11:08:34 PM  

Limeade: Newsflash: Sometimes kids cry and/or scream in public, yes even for those of you who think you have your children under perfect control 100% of the time. Guess what - If my kid's having a bad day, I'm still gettin' my coffee before I leave.


Guess what - If im behind the counter.. I'll do my best to include a 'surprise' in your latte if I see you letting you kid be 'precious' to the annoyance of everyone else.
 
2009-12-08 11:11:12 PM  
People who go out *in public* and get pissed off when they encounter things like a crying baby are farking idiots. It's the real world out there, people. Annoying shiat happens all the time.
 
2009-12-08 11:13:29 PM  

Decados: Limeade: Newsflash: Sometimes kids cry and/or scream in public, yes even for those of you who think you have your children under perfect control 100% of the time. Guess what - If my kid's having a bad day, I'm still gettin' my coffee before I leave.

Guess what - If im behind the counter.. I'll do my best to include a 'surprise' in your latte if I see you letting you kid be 'precious' to the annoyance of everyone else.


Sure you would. Uh-huh.
 
2009-12-08 11:15:52 PM  

jekxrb: If you look like you don't care and just ignore the kid, as I've seen a lot of parents do (and I wouldn't be surprised happened here, but there isn't enough info and the article is unreliable), I'm pissed. It's more about the parent, because the kid doesn't know any better. We don't all think kids are delightful miracles and not everyone wants your kids shoved in their face and to see kids everywhere they go. You love kids and that's great, but I don't enjoy them that much. There have to be some refuges for adults away from children.


Newsletter, please!!!
 
2009-12-08 11:16:38 PM  

Fark No: If I slapped every one who annoyed me, my arm would fall off.


That says more about you than it does about the people around you.
 
2009-12-08 11:20:15 PM  

moothemagiccow: CynicalLA: If you bring a baby to movie and don't walk out when it starts crying. You deserve more than a slap.

All right WTF are you doing bringing a BABY to a MOVIE? Your baby doesn't understand farking movies. I can understand you needing to bring your baby on a plane, to a store, whatever, but a farking movie? You're just being retarded. The kid is going to start screaming and your movie is going to suck. Go home. They have DVDs. With Pause buttons for when little Harrison or Jayden or Gladen starts screaming. AND SOMETHING FOR THE KID TO DO


Well, you'd be surprised how many people bring babies to the movies. At most movies I see there's at least one. Doesn't even matter what kind of movie it is. Luckily they're quiet most of the time. During the day, I can kind of let you go. But I wonder at parents who take their babies with them to see movies at like 10 PM at night. It's called, hire a babysitter. If you don't have one, don't go to the movies.

/they bought their ticket, they knew what they were getting into, etc.
 
2009-12-08 11:24:30 PM  
ok this is fun...I proceed understanding fully its just more noise..

Its comforting to know that every single person slamming noisy kids has never swore, laughed too loudly, or been slightly drunk in public.

You should know my precious crotchflake and I find that offensive. You're gonna need to police yourself better to make me happy, ok? Or..just you wait... I'm gonna write SUCH a petulant little post about you in an internet forum. Oh, and the dirty looks I'll give you. It will be scathing. I might even throw in some pop culture internet memes to drive the point home. Then you'll want to change!

btw...nebbish people THAT sensetive to their environments...WHO is the precious snowflake again?
 
2009-12-08 11:26:45 PM  
Full eyewitness account...:
Now, I did not see this, but was there immediately afterward. ...


My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris smack a guy on the head at 31 Flavors last night.
 
2009-12-08 11:27:38 PM  

Rubberband Girl: FTFA - I have seen frequent out-of-control behavior there, but this child was not crying, just looking cranky, when I saw him and he was in the stroller.

Sounds like the slapper/"non-Dad" went a bit overboard.

I have seen loud/unruly children in the local Starbucks and elsewhere and all I can think is how my parents would've carried me outside and had a "talk" with me privately before returning. Is it really THAT hard to leave your latte unattended for a few minutes?


Having a "talk" with older children who are misbehaving is a good idea, but the concept doesn't work very well with babies.
 
2009-12-08 11:31:36 PM  

ace in your face: This is a slight diversion: OK so I went with my cousin and his wife to this movie one night. I feel like it was "master and commander" or something- not a kid movie at all. It started at 10pm. So I was looking around and I muttered something to them like " I can't believe how many of these people actually brought their children here!" And the wife was like "Why? when we have kids I am going to let them stay out late- especially if its something I want to do".


One of the movie theaters in my area has a policy that forbids children 6 and under from attending any R-rated movie scheduled for 6 p.m. or later. Children that young have no business at an R-rated movie in the first place and the theater is reinforcing that idea, which I think is awesome.
 
2009-12-08 11:32:05 PM  
The headline made me think a man with an upset child became violent because no one would comfort his kid. This, on the other hand, is full of meh.
 
2009-12-08 11:37:16 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: it's unlikely that 100 people can fit in a starbucks.


Obviously you've never been to one on a Friday morning.

Any Pie Left: ... but some weekends, it is really hard to concentrate in church because some idiot parent is letting their kid run wild without ANY reaction or remonstrance or corrective action. (snip all sorts of awesome observations)???


I love you.
 
2009-12-08 11:41:04 PM  
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2009-12-08 11:43:27 PM  
Yeah, because assaulting another human being makes you a hero.
 
2009-12-08 11:43:28 PM  
And one more thing...while I'm rolling.

If your friend asked you, "Do I need to start being more concerned with stranger's comfort and opinions, even if it stresses me out? Do I need to be more aware of what strangers are thinking of me?"

You, Farker, would put your arm around your friend and say, "No. Do what you have to do. Fark all haters. Fark 'em all, right in their ears."

Go on. Pretend that frazzled mother with the screaming 1 year old is your friend.
 
2009-12-08 11:43:38 PM  

BuckTurgidson: Full eyewitness account...:
Now, I did not see this, but was there immediately afterward. ...

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris smack a guy on the head at 31 Flavors last night.


Thank you, Simone.
 
2009-12-08 11:44:20 PM  
MutedDNA

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2009-12-08 11:49:31 PM  

Imez: And one more thing...while I'm rolling.

If your friend asked you, "Do I need to start being more concerned with stranger's comfort and opinions, even if it stresses me out? Do I need to be more aware of what strangers are thinking of me?"

You, Farker, would put your arm around your friend and say, "No. Do what you have to do. Fark all haters. Fark 'em all, right in their ears."

Go on. Pretend that frazzled mother with the screaming 1 year old is your friend.


i100.photobucket.com

You Rock!
 
2009-12-08 11:50:52 PM  

Heroic Poser: DiNozzo!

sorry, Boss


ftfy

/points to EIP
//slaps you
 
2009-12-08 11:57:56 PM  

ace in your face: The guy needed to... buy the kid something to keep it occupied while he was waiting


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2009-12-08 11:58:26 PM  

The Southern Dandy: mongbiohazard: You ever try to get a room full of New Yorkers to agree to ANYTHING? Yeah, that's a big clue right there. The guy probably did need a slap.

I'm pretty sure TFA says the room of New Yorkers agree that the slap was uncalled for. That's why the pusillanimous douchenozzle slappy mcpantywaste split.



Oooooh, don't know how I read that well enough to get that the dude showed up after the incident and the kid was supposedly crying - and then totally get the called/uncalled for backwards. I'll blame it on this cold I'm coming down with at the moment!

So, according to my own logic - he didn't deserve it! It changes it a little being that people are so quick to freak out about such small contacts these days... But if 99% of the people there really were against it, and it's in NYC - yeah, maybe it was uncalled for after all. Pretty much any room full of New Yorkers love to argue.


NightOwl2255: mongbiohazard: I'm not hypersensitive about physical contact. A light slap is not a big deal IMO, and probably a good thing for a lot of people. Hell, we all probably could use one once in a while when we're being jackasses and I've needed one myself here and there.

People going around smacking anyone they think needs it. What could go wrong with that brilliant plan?



Ooohhh, it'd be glorious! Especially at the DMV.
 
2009-12-09 12:01:11 AM  

grimnir: Fark No: If I slapped every one who annoyed me, my arm would fall off.

That says more about you than it does about the people around you.


that they need to work out more?
 
2009-12-09 12:09:43 AM  
There are too many children. Parents should be slapped just for having one.
 
2009-12-09 12:14:38 AM  
Semi-related to this is my Cool Story, Bro moment.

The other day, m'lady and I were at the local Wendy's buying some lunch. An older chap in his late 60s or early 70s comes in with two young hellions probably 7 or 8 each. They look to be half-brothers, and the old fella looks to be the grandfather of the two. The kids are going absolutely apeshait- punching each other, running around, screaming, and throwing everything that's not bolted down at each other. The maybe-grandpa doesn't do a thing about it until he's in the middle of ordering his food when he breaks rank in the middle of ordering a combo, grabs one of the boys by the arm and smacks the crap out of the kid's arse and tells the boys to go sit down. The loud smack made everyone in the store jump - except the two kids. They walked over to a booth and continued right on with their shenanigans as though that situation has played out a thousand times. After another patron got hit with something, she told the kids to behave and they responded by telling her to shut up. The grandpa didn't do anything else about his infuriating companions the entire time we were there.

As an aside, the woman who got told to shut up kept sternly telling my fiancee and I that we needed to control our kids. She didn't seem to buy that they weren't ours until the old man sat down in the booth with them and gave them their lunches.

/wasn't sure what to do about the whole situation.
//food is less tasty when your ears are bleeding from screeching children
///little shiats
 
2009-12-09 12:17:30 AM  
Manhattan parents are pretty much the most self-absorbed parents and Brooklyn Heights is just Manhattan Wannabe.
 
2009-12-09 12:21:04 AM  

ElCommunisto: //food is less tasty when your ears are bleeding from screeching children
///little shiats



Seconded.

/Once had a birthday dinner ruined because some MOTHERfarkING COCK SUCKING PIECE OF SHIAT PARENTS refused to take their loud brat outside.
//And no, I wasn't at a kid-friendly restaurant like Chuck-E-Cheese, McDonald's, or Red Robin.
 
2009-12-09 12:30:59 AM  
What did I tell you about stories like this. The dad, the slapper and the kid, all assholes.

Assholes every one.

\say it like Tiny Tim "God bless us every one" in the spirit of the holidays
 
2009-12-09 12:53:54 AM  

Imez: Its comforting to know that every single person slamming noisy kids has never swore, laughed too loudly, or been slightly drunk in public.


No on 1 and 3. Laughing lasts for 10 seconds, tops. A screaming brat lasts a long f*cking time.. in actuality as long as you let it last.

But, then again, you knew that, and are just trying to be cute.
 
2009-12-09 1:03:53 AM  
I've seen more slapworthy offenses than "fussing." One fat-assed, red-faced shopper refused to pick up his screaming/crying/collapsing in sadness toddler (I swear that kid hadn't seen his second birthday) because "he needs to learn how to walk."

THAT guy deserved a smack. This guy? Meh.
 
2009-12-09 1:09:46 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: ace in your face: This is a slight diversion: OK so I went with my cousin and his wife to this movie one night. I feel like it was "master and commander" or something- not a kid movie at all. It started at 10pm. So I was looking around and I muttered something to them like " I can't believe how many of these people actually brought their children here!" And the wife was like "Why? when we have kids I am going to let them stay out late- especially if its something I want to do".

One of the movie theaters in my area has a policy that forbids children 6 and under from attending any R-rated movie scheduled for 6 p.m. or later. Children that young have no business at an R-rated movie in the first place and the theater is reinforcing that idea, which I think is awesome.


You now what is worse then kids at a movie? Old farts that will not stop talking during the movie. Had one threesome of geezers sit down and yammer on and on. After 5 mins into the file I told them to STFU or I was getting the manager. They managed to stay quiet for most of the movie.
 
2009-12-09 1:12:09 AM  

badLogic: Bathia_Mapes: ace in your face: This is a slight diversion: OK so I went with my cousin and his wife to this movie one night. I feel like it was "master and commander" or something- not a kid movie at all. It started at 10pm. So I was looking around and I muttered something to them like " I can't believe how many of these people actually brought their children here!" And the wife was like "Why? when we have kids I am going to let them stay out late- especially if its something I want to do".

One of the movie theaters in my area has a policy that forbids children 6 and under from attending any R-rated movie scheduled for 6 p.m. or later. Children that young have no business at an R-rated movie in the first place and the theater is reinforcing that idea, which I think is awesome.

You now what is worse then kids at a movie? Old farts that will not stop talking during the movie. Had one threesome of geezers sit down and yammer on and on. After 5 mins into the file I told them to STFU or I was getting the manager. They managed to stay quiet for most of the movie.


Yeah but that still isn't worse than kids who scream in those shrill voices. ANd you can't yell at kids without looking like a total asshole.
 
2009-12-09 1:13:09 AM  
The whole entire bunch of pretentious shiatwads, blogger and submitter included, should be biatch-slapped for this pretentious twaddle. This is the kind of pretentrious nauseauting drivel that reminds me why the world is going to shiat.
 
2009-12-09 1:17:42 AM  
badLogic
I was at a movie once where they wheeled a couple old ladies down in front, but had to wheel them out because one was apparently suffering dementia and didn't know where the hell she was. She was making scared old lady noises and not even really articulating words.

What with retarded people, demented old people, kids, seat-kicking, overly loud volume, 30 minute previews, and a Michael Bay film making me literally ill, I pretty much stopped going to see movies. I used to really enjoy going to the movies but fark it, I can watch uploaded movies on YouTube for free in the comfort of my own home where I'm the only demented retard around.
 
2009-12-09 1:22:01 AM  
Mmmmm nothing quite gets you going in the morning like a Venti Slappuccino.
 
2009-12-09 1:28:48 AM  
jekxrb

You, sir, are my hero.

Listen folks, just because you've procreated does not endow you with the right to annoy the rest of us. At best, you have accomplished what dogs do in alleyways everyday.

The look of smugness I see on the faces of most (but not all) parents infuriates me to no end.

Oh, and another thing- there are certainn places that are ADULT ONLY. I wouldn't go to an Applebees or any fast food joint and expect there to be no children because I have COMMON SENSE. So why oh why do I constantly have to put up with parents bringing their pwecious wittle snowflakes to cozy, romantic, expensive restaurants that are so obviously meant for ADULTS? Seriously, is it THAT hard to get a sitter ffs?

YOU have chosen to have a child, not me or my wife. YOU are the ones who have to deal with/discipline them.
 
2009-12-09 1:34:10 AM  

Egalitarian: badLogic
I was at a movie once where they wheeled a couple old ladies down in front, but had to wheel them out because one was apparently suffering dementia and didn't know where the hell she was. She was making scared old lady noises and not even really articulating words.

What with retarded people, demented old people, kids, seat-kicking, overly loud volume, 30 minute previews, and a Michael Bay film making me literally ill, I pretty much stopped going to see movies. I used to really enjoy going to the movies but fark it, I can watch uploaded movies on YouTube for free in the comfort of my own home where I'm the only demented retard around.


Agreed, I can either pay $10 to drive some place to watch a movie with overpriced sugar/salt snacks and a bunch of chatting and texting and other bullshiat, or I can watch a movie free with my roommates drinking a beer and occasionally rambling on Fark. Easy decision.
 
2009-12-09 1:35:11 AM  
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2009-12-09 1:51:05 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Rubberband Girl: FTFA - I have seen frequent out-of-control behavior there, but this child was not crying, just looking cranky, when I saw him and he was in the stroller.

Sounds like the slapper/"non-Dad" went a bit overboard.

I have seen loud/unruly children in the local Starbucks and elsewhere and all I can think is how my parents would've carried me outside and had a "talk" with me privately before returning. Is it really THAT hard to leave your latte unattended for a few minutes?

Having a "talk" with older children who are misbehaving is a good idea, but the concept doesn't work very well with babies.


Vigorous shaking works pretty well.
 
2009-12-09 2:03:12 AM  

ZAZ: The child was "fussing" which could mean anything from nothing up to screaming just short of fed-into-a-wood-chipper volume.

Fortunately I don't have to judge the child's behavior because I think it's OK to slap people who go to Starbucks.


i concur. douchebags all.
 
2009-12-09 2:25:43 AM  

darch: Oh, and another thing- there are certainn places that are ADULT ONLY. I wouldn't go to an Applebees or any fast food joint and expect there to be no children because I have COMMON SENSE. So why oh why do I constantly have to put up with parents bringing their pwecious wittle snowflakes to cozy, romantic, expensive restaurants that are so obviously meant for ADULTS? Seriously, is it THAT hard to get a sitter ffs?



I've said it before:

My state (WA) has some shiatty laws, but I'm VERY grateful that you have to be 21+ to step foot in a bar...and that includes the bar section of restaurants. For example:

Right next to my local movie theater, there's a Claim Jumper. If my g/f and I want to have dinner before a movie, we can eat/drink in the bar area, and make it to our show on time. Meanwhile, the families with kids are still waiting for their tables in the main dining area.

Seriously....I feel sorry for you guys who live in states where kids are allowed in bars.

/Now if only my state would repeal that retarded smoking ban.
 
2009-12-09 2:30:48 AM  
The only time it should be acceptable for a man to slap another man is with a glove - challenging him to a duel.
 
2009-12-09 2:33:41 AM  

badLogic: You now what is worse then kids at a movie? Old farts that will not stop talking during the movie. Had one threesome of geezers sit down and yammer on and on. After 5 mins into the file I told them to STFU or I was getting the manager. They managed to stay quiet for most of the movie.


I went to see A Day without a Mexican at a cheap theater (sue me, I had time to kill) and the entire loudmouth Mexican family behind us talked for most of the movie. I turned around and asked them to be quiet, please and they were incredulous.

At that point I was thinking, "Is a Good Day" would have made a great subtitle for that movie.
 
2009-12-09 2:34:56 AM  

darch: jekxrb

You, sir, are my hero.

Listen folks, just because you've procreated does not endow you with the right to annoy the rest of us. At best, you have accomplished what dogs do in alleyways everyday.

The look of smugness I see on the faces of most (but not all) parents infuriates me to no end.

Oh, and another thing- there are certainn places that are ADULT ONLY. I wouldn't go to an Applebees or any fast food joint and expect there to be no children because I have COMMON SENSE. So why oh why do I constantly have to put up with parents bringing their pwecious wittle snowflakes to cozy, romantic, expensive restaurants that are so obviously meant for ADULTS? Seriously, is it THAT hard to get a sitter ffs?

YOU have chosen to have a child, not me or my wife. YOU are the ones who have to deal with/discipline them.


Yeah but EVERYTHING after 10pm should be childfree.
 
2009-12-09 2:43:22 AM  
hey subby thanks for the fail. the kid was fussy, not crying.

also, this exactly how "classy" new yorkers are.
 
2009-12-09 2:51:37 AM  
Speaking of movie-and-children horror stories, here's mine:

It's a late night date. Dawn of the Dead, for fark's sake. I just HAVE to go pee and I skip off to do so -- narrowly avoiding the four or five year old girl this couple has planted in the farking AISLE of the theater to play with her toys while mommy and daddy watch the movie.

(Yes, at 10 at night.)

I come back. It's the scene, you know -- where they first realize that the bit rise from the dead because that guy comes back? They'd never seen it get transmitted before. So all hell breaks loose on screen as I'm coming up the stairs, and Toddler Girl reacts by LEAPING toward the nearest adult passing her by trying to get to mommy and daddy in the aisle, and grabs my legs, sending me to the stairs.

Startled, I nearly kicked the kid in the face. They pry her off and were SMART ENOUGH not to start anything as I picked my ass up and limped to my boyfriend, and little girl is soon comforted and playing in the aisle a few minutes later.

In retrospect, I should have made a scene and had them ejected and scored recompense tickets or something. I'm meaner now.
 
2009-12-09 3:03:56 AM  
The father in question should have grabbed that mouthbreather by his short hairs and tossed his ass into traffic.

Or stomped on his throat. You know, whichever.
 
2009-12-09 3:31:31 AM  
Came for the 'Cool Story bro'.

Offer my own.

Airplane ride time. My four year old son is curled up and stretches out. He accidently kick the seat in front of him. This fierce, old looking guy, anywhere between a premature 45 to 400 years old, spins around and opens his mouth to snarl but I cut him off with a polite 'Sorry. I'll keep a closer eye on him.' With eyes bulging the fellow turns back to his magazine with, at a guess, a title like 'How to Over React and Be Morally Superior for Five Dollars a Day'.

Fast forward seven hours. (It was a trans-atlantic flight). My son is sleeping in his seat and during his dream his foot lashed out and tapped, TAPPED I tell you, the seat in front of him. Next thing I know I overhear the grumpy immortal talking to the steward asking him to talk to me about my son.

I reach between the seats, tap him on the shoulder and state, 'If you have issues with me you deal with me. Not run to the authorities like some Depends wearing, weat-germ sucking, baby.'

The exchange continued for a bit, the steward vanished and the only fallout was grumbling from the old fart for the rest of the flight. The boy slept the sleep of the just.

/Watch my kids like a hawk.
//strict, expect sterling behavior from them.
///Kill you if you look at them funny.
////Damn foriegn Windows auto-correction.
//Slashes!
 
2009-12-09 3:50:10 AM  

Mad-Hamlet: /Watch my kids like a hawk.
//strict, expect sterling behavior from them.
///Kill you if you look at them funny.


Seconded.

/I would have spent the rest of the flight clicking my nails on the tray or singing "It's A Small World."
 
2009-12-09 3:53:44 AM  
I just want to say that this thread inspired me to get up and complain to the management when some biatch was letting her age 3ish kids run up and down the aisles screaming during a movie I went to see tonight.

/Didn't miss too much, it was just Ninja Assassin
//Nothing like the feeling of helping assholes get what's coming to them

beowulf980: when i went to see ninja assassin there must have been thirty kids in the theater the oldest where probably 10 or 12


Damn. Something about that movie must attract people with more kids than brains or manners.
 
2009-12-09 4:40:53 AM  

Cagey B: The English Major: GLove88mph: yes, because a baby is a great excuse to spark violence.

Wars have started over less.

The War of Jenkin's Ear would have provided good Fark fodder.



Dont forget about the bloody but glorious Pig War between the US and England.
 
2009-12-09 4:54:45 AM  

AMurderOfCrows: Speaking of movie-and-children horror stories, here's mine:

It's a late night date. Dawn of the Dead, for fark's sake. I just HAVE to go pee and I skip off to do so -- narrowly avoiding the four or five year old girl this couple has planted in the farking AISLE of the theater to play with her toys while mommy and daddy watch the movie.

(Yes, at 10 at night.)

I come back. It's the scene, you know -- where they first realize that the bit rise from the dead because that guy comes back? They'd never seen it get transmitted before. So all hell breaks loose on screen as I'm coming up the stairs, and Toddler Girl reacts by LEAPING toward the nearest adult passing her by trying to get to mommy and daddy in the aisle, and grabs my legs, sending me to the stairs.

Startled, I nearly kicked the kid in the face. They pry her off and were SMART ENOUGH not to start anything as I picked my ass up and limped to my boyfriend, and little girl is soon comforted and playing in the aisle a few minutes later.

In retrospect, I should have made a scene and had them ejected and scored recompense tickets or something. I'm meaner now.


Oh, I hear you. Years ago, when "Alien" was first released theatrically, this biatch brings her daughter, who can't be more than 4-5 years old to see the movie. The little girl was getting more and more frightened, crying, begging mommy to take her home, etc. Then the face hugger scene happened and the shiat hit the fan. The little girl started screaming hysterically and her biatch of a "mother" responded by slapping the child repeatedly in the face and telling her that she had better STFU or she'd get a whipping with a belt when she got home. Of course that made the little girl scream even louder. At this point I'm on my way out of the theater to contact the manager. Mommy Dearest and the manager got into a shouting match which progressed into her shoving the manager hard enough to make him fall. She ended up in jail and the little girl was picked up by child protective services.
 
2009-12-09 4:58:30 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Oh, I hear you. Years ago, when "Alien" was first released theatrically, this biatch brings her daughter, who can't be more than 4-5 years old to see the movie. The little girl was getting more and more frightened, crying, begging mommy to take her home, etc. Then the face hugger scene happened and the shiat hit the fan. The little girl started screaming hysterically and her biatch of a "mother" responded by slapping the child repeatedly in the face and telling her that she had better STFU or she'd get a whipping with a belt when she got home. Of course that made the little girl scream even louder. At this point I'm on my way out of the theater to contact the manager. Mommy Dearest and the manager got into a shouting match which progressed into her shoving the manager hard enough to make him fall. She ended up in jail and the little girl was picked up by child protective services.


Holy crap. I've never seen Alien but it sounds like you got a way better show.

/poor kid. :(
 
2009-12-09 5:12:21 AM  

tbyte: tbyte: Hero tag appropriate. If your kid even so much as looks like he's going to cry, you should be beat to death with a crowbar. I know the "Dad"'s type, taking kids out in public when they know other people are just trying to go about their lives without having to look at them. As for the commenter on the blog comparing kids to dog owners: maybe you'd have a point if the kid was tied up on the sidewalk alongside the dog. Take care of your kids, keep them quiet, and do it far away from the rest of us.

For all you saying to take care of the kid and keep them away and whatever, you need to learn that kids do stuff that adults don't. It's that simple. Kids do what they feel like, and sometimes it's just not worth trying to stop them because they don't listen anyway. So don't complain about it, they will tire out when they're done. When you take kids places, sometimes they cry, play, climb on stuff, etc. and if you get annoyed, or your stuff gets broken, or whatever you're whining about, maybe you should have just stayed home, because you have no right to tell me what my kids can and can't do. If I want to take them somewhere and don't feel like disciplining them, then tough luck make your own coffee at home.

/Feel like I've been in these threads enough times to have the arguments memorized


You are a royal douchebag. Try parenting your damn snowflake.
 
2009-12-09 6:03:40 AM  
Gotta give these shiatty parents a break.

Smug denial is their coping mechanism for realizing they've surrendered at least 18 years and hundreds of thousands of dollars to feed, clothe, nurture, and educate someone who most likely won't live up to their expectations anyway.

/Or in my cousin's case, comes home from college gay
 
2009-12-09 7:36:39 AM  

Any Pie Left: I don't go to Starbucks... but some weekends, it is really hard to concentrate in church because some idiot parent is letting their kid run wild without ANY reaction or remonstrance or corrective action. I can't keep my mind on God except to wish he'd hurl some lighting up that parent's ass and make them do their duty. I'm not asking for much: when it's a baby, you bring along a bottle to shut it up when it's hungry, or you pick it up and hold it if it needs comforting, or you leave it alone if it is sleeping, and you time feedings so it is less likely to fill the diaper during the service. These things are not hard to do.

When they are older, you start teaching them that it is God's House and we don't run around and climb on the furniture, we don't yell to test the acoustics in the middle of the sermon, we don't chew gum or wear hats or bother the people behind us trying to pray. We go potty beforehand and we are quiet unless we are praying or singing together. If we're bored, we have cloth books or a soft, SILENT squeeze toy to keep us busy. The older you are, the more you are expected to follow along with your family and participate in the service.

When you are a teen, you turn off the phones and ipods, you don't chew gum, you dress a notch above normal out of respect, and you don't show up late.

I was raised to worship this way, and I hold my kids to at LEAST this standard, makes me pissed when parents of other kids seem to pretend they are not there, don't hush them when they shout or make tantrums, or take them out and change them when they fill their diaper and cry because the poo burns. They let kids old enough to participate get away with playing games or coloring or doing anything but pay attention. And best of all these bad parents always choose to sit up front like attention whores, so their whole congregation has to be distracted by their shiat. When my kids were little, we sat in the back so I could take them out to the vestibule if I had to. As they got older and learned better behavior, we picked a row further and further forward. Why is stuff like this so hard for some parents to grok???


christianityfail...Big J didn't pipe up on that many topics during his short tenure but he did specifically lay the metaphysical smack down on people who were complaining about kids in church. go bible that shiat.

I do my best to keep my kid in line, to the point of leaving when she gets disrupted, but I couldn't care less if my crotchfruit is just going about her normal crotchfruit business and it annoys you. Then again, I'm not the kind of guy that people go around slapping either, most people seem to take my particular blend of intensity and politeness as a warning flag, which is as it should be.
 
2009-12-09 7:39:20 AM  
disrupted should equal disruptive.
 
2009-12-09 8:07:44 AM  
chairborne has a wrong idea of what "suffer the children to come to me" means.

Children are not born knowing how to act. Our job as parents is to teach and guide them until they can function independently. Not doing that job is parental fail.
 
2009-12-09 8:13:54 AM  
HectorSchwartz

Seriously, lighten up. How many times have you been in a Starbucks next to a bunch of loud ass yuppies? Is it any different?


Loud ass yuppies suck, but not as much as screeching spawn.

Yes, I know the spawn in question was not screeching. But there needs to be something done. If you just sit around while your kid wails like a fire alarm, then you should be banned from the business.

goletaal
People who go out *in public* and get pissed off when they encounter things like a crying baby are farking idiots.


It's the 'not even trying to quiet the kid even by a bit' situations I encounter that piss me off.
 
2009-12-09 8:15:44 AM  
Fark, making the word "hero" more worthless with every use!
 
2009-12-09 8:17:58 AM  

h2oincfs: NeauxFear: bronyaur1:

99% of the people in there were on the slapped Dad's side.

"Slapped dad"? What, are you Nancy Grace?


TOT MOM TOT MOM TOT MOM TOT MOM TOT MOM

/sorry had to
//slashie for you slashie for me
 
2009-12-09 8:27:34 AM  

Any Pie Left: chairborne has a wrong idea of what "suffer the children to come to me" means.

Children are not born knowing how to act. Our job as parents is to teach and guide them until they can function independently. Not doing that job is parental fail.


I was objecting to the sanctimonious nature of the original post. Your idea of proper comportment in church has a lot more to do with the society you grew up in than with anything in christianity's instruction manual. When I take my kid to church she's free to wander, she crawls under the pews, random people pick her up and play with her, she's not seen as a disruption, she's seen as a child being a child. I wouldn't go to a church that reacted otherwise. If she starts heading for the candles, the holy water, has a tantrum anything else *truly* inappropriate I take her out of the room, but our priest/preacher/pastor, whatever this particular denomination calls him has been known to just calmly pick her up when she heads towards the front and continue with the service without missing a beat. She's loved there, and I trust the people who attend, and that's what the whole christianity thing is supposed to be about as far as I'm concerned, love your neighbor, suffer the little children to come to me, do unto others and all that jazz. I attended a church *once* (and by that I mean one time) where they only allowed kids in a soundproof room off the back, it seemed a bit anal retentive to me. If the sound of a child laughing prevents you from worshipping your god you might be doing it wrong.

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
Mahatma Gandhi
 
2009-12-09 8:45:21 AM  

tbyte: tbyte: Hero tag appropriate. If your kid even so much as looks like he's going to cry, you should be beat to death with a crowbar. I know the "Dad"'s type, taking kids out in public when they know other people are just trying to go about their lives without having to look at them. As for the commenter on the blog comparing kids to dog owners: maybe you'd have a point if the kid was tied up on the sidewalk alongside the dog. Take care of your kids, keep them quiet, and do it far away from the rest of us.

For all you saying to take care of the kid and keep them away and whatever, you need to learn that kids do stuff that adults don't. It's that simple. Kids do what they feel like, and sometimes it's just not worth trying to stop them because they don't listen anyway. So don't complain about it, they will tire out when they're done. When you take kids places, sometimes they cry, play, climb on stuff, etc. and if you get annoyed, or your stuff gets broken, or whatever you're whining about, maybe you should have just stayed home, because you have no right to tell me what my kids can and can't do. If I want to take them somewhere and don't feel like disciplining them, then tough luck make your own coffee at home.

/Feel like I've been in these threads enough times to have the arguments memorized


Alt fail?
 
2009-12-09 8:46:18 AM  
I was in a store the other night, and this girl about 6 or 7 comes flying around the corner like Carl Lewis and I had to jump backwards to keep from hitting her with my cart. No adults anywhere in sight. She gets this panicked look. So, I smile and say gently, "That's why it's not a good idea to run in the store."

The mother or grandmother (couldn't tell which) appears just as I'm finishing and shrieks, "She's MY daughter and I'LL discipline her, thank you very much!!!" Then she grabbed the kid and flew away.

Sorry, when you abdicate your responsibility and ignore your child while she wanders off by herself to potentially cause harm to herself and others, you also abdicate the right to be the only one to speak to her about it. If you don't want your kid exposed to the outside world, you keep her at home. If I have to put up with other people's unsupervised kids, then I get to say something about it. It's the farking social contract.
 
2009-12-09 8:49:36 AM  
I don't have any yet (that I know of) but I do think that society has to make some accomidations for children. That said, parents have to be aware of the disturbance their children are causing.

For babies and early toddlers, we all have to cut them some slack. If someone is in the coffee shop grabbing a coffee and their baby is squeeling bloody murder, I don't slap them in the back of the head, honestly I feel a little sorry for them, they were no doubt up every 2 or 3 hours with that kid, and probably need their coffee worse than anyone else in there.

That said, if your baby is squeeling, don't sit down in the shop and annoy the rest of the patrons, take it out or come by another time when you don't have the baby.

If your baby is being quiet and behaving, by all means stay and enjoy.

As for kids 4+, it's about time they are taught how to behave. It's a rough road, they're not always going to be angels, but if I see a parent dealing well with a troublesome kid I'd admire them. Set boundries and stick to them.

If your little Billy and Tommy won't stop horsing around in a resturaunt, let them know calmly and firmly if they don't stop, that they'll have to leave. If your kids keep it up, do just that, leave. It won't take long before your kids understand that you follow through with your threats. It's not cruel, it's teaching them cause and effect and how to be mature.
 
2009-12-09 8:55:28 AM  
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2009-12-09 8:55:32 AM  

Shut Up and Compute: tbyte: tbyte: Hero tag appropriate. If your kid even so much as looks like he's going to cry, you should be beat to death with a crowbar. I know the "Dad"'s type, taking kids out in public when they know other people are just trying to go about their lives without having to look at them. As for the commenter on the blog comparing kids to dog owners: maybe you'd have a point if the kid was tied up on the sidewalk alongside the dog. Take care of your kids, keep them quiet, and do it far away from the rest of us.

For all you saying to take care of the kid and keep them away and whatever, you need to learn that kids do stuff that adults don't. It's that simple. Kids do what they feel like, and sometimes it's just not worth trying to stop them because they don't listen anyway. So don't complain about it, they will tire out when they're done. When you take kids places, sometimes they cry, play, climb on stuff, etc. and if you get annoyed, or your stuff gets broken, or whatever you're whining about, maybe you should have just stayed home, because you have no right to tell me what my kids can and can't do. If I want to take them somewhere and don't feel like disciplining them, then tough luck make your own coffee at home.

/Feel like I've been in these threads enough times to have the arguments memorized

Alt fail?


Oops. Sarcasm fail for me.
 
2009-12-09 9:02:33 AM  
Yee-HAW! Violence is Heroic!

*shoots guns into air while hopping from left foot to right foot, then back again*


what couldn't find a good picture of Rich Texan?

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2009-12-09 9:27:40 AM  
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2009-12-09 9:33:53 AM  
I freakin HATE parents who are so used to their brats wailing that they make NO attempt to calm them in public settings. HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE

I totally get that some kids can not be placated, but at least make the farkin effort or go home.
 
2009-12-09 10:11:24 AM  

toejam: IT WAS A BABY!!


I almost fell out of my chair TJ!
 
2009-12-09 10:23:39 AM  
Wonderful use of the HERO tag on a crappy day. And to the fabulously gay reporter who wrote about this, men do not "slap", they "backhand" or "smack" em upside the head.
 
2009-12-09 10:23:48 AM  

ttintagel: I was in a store the other night, and this girl about 6 or 7 comes flying around the corner like Carl Lewis and I had to jump backwards to keep from hitting her with my cart. No adults anywhere in sight. She gets this panicked look. So, I smile and say gently, "That's why it's not a good idea to run in the store."

The mother or grandmother (couldn't tell which) appears just as I'm finishing and shrieks, "She's MY daughter and I'LL discipline her, thank you very much!!!" Then she grabbed the kid and flew away.

Sorry, when you abdicate your responsibility and ignore your child while she wanders off by herself to potentially cause harm to herself and others, you also abdicate the right to be the only one to speak to her about it. If you don't want your kid exposed to the outside world, you keep her at home. If I have to put up with other people's unsupervised kids, then I get to say something about it. It's the farking social contract.


You should have slapped the mom behind the head.
 
2009-12-09 10:26:01 AM  

HectorSchwartz: bronyaur1: The guy who hit the other guy is an asshole.
The guy whose kid was annoying everyone else is a selfish dick.

OR, the people being annoyed were all selfish dicks.

Seriously, lighten up. How many times have you been in a Starbucks next to a bunch of loud ass yuppies? Is it any different?


THIS.

Loud adults that speak so loud that everyone in the place can hear them, or those that have their conversations and blocking the path (corridor or sidewalk) are a lot worse than a baby crying.
 
2009-12-09 10:45:36 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: ace in your face: This is a slight diversion: OK so I went with my cousin and his wife to this movie one night. I feel like it was "master and commander" or something- not a kid movie at all. It started at 10pm. So I was looking around and I muttered something to them like " I can't believe how many of these people actually brought their children here!" And the wife was like "Why? when we have kids I am going to let them stay out late- especially if its something I want to do".

One of the movie theaters in my area has a policy that forbids children 6 and under from attending any R-rated movie scheduled for 6 p.m. or later. Children that young have no business at an R-rated movie in the first place and the theater is reinforcing that idea, which I think is awesome.


If they had a no under 25 policy that'd be even better. Maybe I'm just incredibly lucky but I've never been to an R rated movie where there are noisy 6 year olds but damned if I can't find a movie without loud teenagers/college students/woohoo-I'm-finally-21-so-I'm-gonna-be-drunk-and-loud young adults. Most parents have the sense to remove kids that get too loud. No such luck with the teenager+ category.

Since I'm dreaming, why not make it a no under 30 policy - I'm feeling particularily old and cranky today.

/my lawn, let me show you how to get off it.
 
2009-12-09 10:46:06 AM  

Needlessly Complicated: moothemagiccow: CynicalLA: If you bring a baby to movie and don't walk out when it starts crying. You deserve more than a slap.

All right WTF are you doing bringing a BABY to a MOVIE? Your baby doesn't understand farking movies. I can understand you needing to bring your baby on a plane, to a store, whatever, but a farking movie? You're just being retarded. The kid is going to start screaming and your movie is going to suck. Go home. They have DVDs. With Pause buttons for when little Harrison or Jayden or Gladen starts screaming. AND SOMETHING FOR THE KID TO DO

Well, you'd be surprised how many people bring babies to the movies. At most movies I see there's at least one. Doesn't even matter what kind of movie it is. Luckily they're quiet most of the time. During the day, I can kind of let you go. But I wonder at parents who take their babies with them to see movies at like 10 PM at night. It's called, hire a babysitter. If you don't have one, don't go to the movies.

/they bought their ticket, they knew what they were getting into, etc.


We took our first kid to movies when she was a bitty. The dark would put her to sleep. Then, once, she started crying so I took her out to the lobby while my wife finished the movie. The theater manager, unasked, gave me 2 free passes.
 
2009-12-09 10:53:34 AM  

kellynoel: /poor kid. :(


Indeed. It was all I could do to keep myself from slapping the biatch mom myself, but she wasn't worth going to jail for.
 
2009-12-09 10:59:17 AM  
Wow, we're giving out HERO tags for damn near anything these days.
 
2009-12-09 11:12:38 AM  

Propain_az: You assholes that aren't man enough to have children sure do have big farking mouths.


Why should we have to pay when you weren't smart enough to turn her over and shoot your load on her tits.

Any "parent" that takes a whiny child to restaurants and stores should be slapped continually until they learn that other people don't want to hear their shiatstains cry for an hour or two.

Nothing on this planet is as annoying as an inconsiderate parent that feels it is their right to ruin your dinner with their unruly, crotchfruit.

I truly wish that people would have to get tested and licensed before having kids.
 
2009-12-09 11:18:57 AM  

yakmans_dad: Needlessly Complicated: moothemagiccow: CynicalLA: If you bring a baby to movie and don't walk out when it starts crying. You deserve more than a slap.

All right WTF are you doing bringing a BABY to a MOVIE? Your baby doesn't understand farking movies. I can understand you needing to bring your baby on a plane, to a store, whatever, but a farking movie? You're just being retarded. The kid is going to start screaming and your movie is going to suck. Go home. They have DVDs. With Pause buttons for when little Harrison or Jayden or Gladen starts screaming. AND SOMETHING FOR THE KID TO DO

Well, you'd be surprised how many people bring babies to the movies. At most movies I see there's at least one. Doesn't even matter what kind of movie it is. Luckily they're quiet most of the time. During the day, I can kind of let you go. But I wonder at parents who take their babies with them to see movies at like 10 PM at night. It's called, hire a babysitter. If you don't have one, don't go to the movies.

/they bought their ticket, they knew what they were getting into, etc.

We took our first kid to movies when she was a bitty. The dark would put her to sleep. Then, once, she started crying so I took her out to the lobby while my wife finished the movie. The theater manager, unasked, gave me 2 free passes.


You just have to feel sorry for kids today, their parents don't even have the sense not to take a baby to a theater. How can we expect children to be considerate and respectful to others when their parents don't even understand those concepts?
 
2009-12-09 11:25:46 AM  
Oh please, next time I have a fussing kid with me at starbucks, come up and slap me, because I don't have enough problems and throatpunching you will really brighten my day. Bet watching your choke on pink foam makes the kid giggle.
 
2009-12-09 11:53:46 AM  
At the doctor's office, the examination rooms have a sign on each wall: "PLEASE DO NOT LET YOUR CHILDREN OPEN DRAWERS, CLIMB ON FURNITURE, OR PLAY WITH EQUIPMENT". Wifey asked, really, are there that many parents who let their kids fiddle with the speculums and ear-light-thingys that they need to warn you no matter which direction you are facing? The nurse replied that parents who let their kids run wild are the majority. Kids don't suck so much; parents do. That said: crying babies are not as annoying as you think; the righteous who think they deserve not to be annoyed in any form are the assholes. So:

Good Parents > Kids > Bratty Kids > Bad Parents > Self-Righteous Assholes
 
2009-12-09 11:55:44 AM  

soupgoblin: yakmans_dad: Needlessly Complicated: moothemagiccow: CynicalLA: If you bring a baby to movie and don't walk out when it starts crying. You deserve more than a slap.

[snip]

You just have to feel sorry for kids today, their parents don't even have the sense not to take a baby to a theater. How can we expect children to be considerate and respectful to others when their parents don't even understand those concepts?


Oh, brother. A couple of friends and I felt like catching a scary movie so we went to one of the Exorcist-like ones. Can't remember the name, the remake of the one with the evil/son-of-satan/indigo-baby/whatever boy trying to kill his mum by tricylcing her over the stairs.

Anyways, we have had idiot parents ruin a movie before (bringing your 6 month old to LOTR: TTT, really? WTF?) so we make sure to get tickets for the 10pm show. I mean, that should do it, right? WRONG.

These two exemplars of parenting ineptitude brought their three kids along, ages 1, 3 and 5. WTF? The kids got restless, of course, started crying, talking loudly, shouting at the screen, etc. People were shhing them but to no avail.

After 20 or so minutes of this I went out and talked to the manager about it. She said they couldn't keep them from going in to begin with because movie classification was informative only and not grounds to bar entry to the theater. I told her that these people were preventing the rest of us from enjoying the movie and could she please do something about it?

The manager agreed and told me she would come in with me and if the parents were still not doing anything about their kids then she would take action.

The kids kept going at it and the parents kept ignoring people's complaints so the lady stepped in and asked them to go. I was too far from them to hear how it went but they didn't seem to fuss too much about being kicked out.

Man, how the crowd cheered when they got their asses kicked out.

/feels bad for the kids
//hates parents like these
///so much work for a so-so movie, damnit
 
2009-12-09 12:10:00 PM  

soupgoblin: Any "parent" that takes a whiny child to restaurants and stores should be slapped continually until they learn that other people don't want to hear their shiatstains cry for an hour or two.


Here's the thing. That crotchfruit? It's a little, tiny person. Sometimes, they're in a bad mood. Now, when you get in a bad mood, you probably sulk, or post stuff on the internet, or similar. The kid doesn't have a laptop, so they express themselves in a different manner. Now, I'm not excusing parents who don't try and fix it, don't get me wrong. But 99% of the time, my kids are great in public. The other 1% of the time, they get to wait in the car with me while the wife eats or shops or whatever. If the sound of a preschooler crying while I carry him from the table to the door bothers you that much, you probably need to man up a bit.

This is not a difficult concept- you buy the kid a DS and a set of headphones, the kid will be quiet in public. Bored children are cranky children.

Also, if at all possible, have one parent go to the grocery while the other stays with the kids. Movies are one thing (get a damn babysitter!), but it's a whole other level of cruel to take a young child to the supermarket. A bunch of bright, colorful packaging and crap food that they have seen commercials for? Here's how it's going to go down: the child will ask for/try to grab a ton of stuff that's exceptionally unhealthy, the parent will say "no" a lot, the kid will get more and more frustrated, and eventually will cry. Short-circuit the process, and leave the kids at home whenever possible.
 
2009-12-09 12:12:08 PM  
273 posts and no love yet for the Elvis Costello quote in the article?

Guess I'll have to do it myself....

You think you're alone until you realize you're in it
Now fear is here to stay, love is here for a visit
They call it instant justice when it's past the legal limit
Someone's scratching at the window, I wonder who is it?
The detectives come to check if you belong to the parents
Who are ready to hear the worst about their daughter's disappearance
Though it nearly took a miracle to get you to stay
It only took my little fingers to blow you away
-- Watching the Detectives

I've got plenty of stories of unruly kids, but the one that sticks with me is when we went to dinner with a couple my then-gf knew from work. We liked them and their company, and could have ended up good friends, but they brought their 2 kids (5 and 7, if I remember right) with them.

The kids were wandering all over the restaurant, bothering other patrons, even asking other people about what they had to eat, and could they have a taste? My gf and I were mortified, and our table was getting very angry looks from the rest of the place. I suggested that maybe the girls should come sit back at the table with us, and they were horrified at the suggestion that we should stifle the girls in any way.

We ever did anything socially with that couple again.
 
2009-12-09 12:13:19 PM  

imfallen_angel: ttintagel: I was in a store the other night, and this girl about 6 or 7 comes flying around the corner like Carl Lewis and I had to jump backwards to keep from hitting her with my cart. No adults anywhere in sight. She gets this panicked look. So, I smile and say gently, "That's why it's not a good idea to run in the store."

The mother or grandmother (couldn't tell which) appears just as I'm finishing and shrieks, "She's MY daughter and I'LL discipline her, thank you very much!!!" Then she grabbed the kid and flew away.

Sorry, when you abdicate your responsibility and ignore your child while she wanders off by herself to potentially cause harm to herself and others, you also abdicate the right to be the only one to speak to her about it. If you don't want your kid exposed to the outside world, you keep her at home. If I have to put up with other people's unsupervised kids, then I get to say something about it. It's the farking social contract.
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You should have slapped the mom behind the head.

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I wish I'd at least SAID something to her, but she huffed off while I was still standing there being surprised. I guess I really shouldn't have been, but it never fails to amaze me.

I kindly looked out for her untrained child while she couldn't be bothered, and I'M the bad guy? Isn't it good for kids to know that their actions have effects in the world around them? Isn't it good for them to understand that the rules of public behavior aren't just arbitrary things their parents made up out of nowhere just to be mean?

Many parents want a bank-bailout deal. They want everyone else to absorb all the negative effects (including taxes), while having no say and getting no benefit. We're a farking community, for fark's sake. They're my kids, too, and I care about them. More than that woman does, apparently. Having a kid seemed like it was more about her own vanity and ego than about what's good for the child.
 
2009-12-09 12:21:30 PM  

Gonz: soupgoblin: Any "parent" that takes a whiny child to restaurants and stores should be slapped continually until they learn that other people don't want to hear their shiatstains cry for an hour or two.

Here's the thing. That crotchfruit? It's a little, tiny person. Sometimes, they're in a bad mood. Now, when you get in a bad mood, you probably sulk, or post stuff on the internet, or similar. The kid doesn't have a laptop, so they express themselves in a different manner. Now, I'm not excusing parents who don't try and fix it, don't get me wrong. But 99% of the time, my kids are great in public. The other 1% of the time, they get to wait in the car with me while the wife eats or shops or whatever. If the sound of a preschooler crying while I carry him from the table to the door bothers you that much, you probably need to man up a bit.

This is not a difficult concept- you buy the kid a DS and a set of headphones, the kid will be quiet in public. Bored children are cranky children.

Also, if at all possible, have one parent go to the grocery while the other stays with the kids. Movies are one thing (get a damn babysitter!), but it's a whole other level of cruel to take a young child to the supermarket. A bunch of bright, colorful packaging and crap food that they have seen commercials for? Here's how it's going to go down: the child will ask for/try to grab a ton of stuff that's exceptionally unhealthy, the parent will say "no" a lot, the kid will get more and more frustrated, and eventually will cry. Short-circuit the process, and leave the kids at home whenever possible.


THIS.

A lot of people can't get it through their thick skulls that some excursion just aren't appropriate for kids. Heck, a day at the mall annoys ME; I can't imagine putting a preschooler through it. Five times out of ten when a kid is screaming bloody murder in a store, he's screaming to leave.
 
2009-12-09 12:22:06 PM  

ttintagel: I kindly looked out for her untrained child while she couldn't be bothered, and I'M the bad guy? Isn't it good for kids to know that their actions have effects in the world around them? Isn't it good for them to understand that the rules of public behavior aren't just arbitrary things their parents made up out of nowhere just to be mean?


Well, you did what you could... this parent is probably someone that's similar to the farkers with no kids that whine about how "their" rights to a kid free environment should be law.

I've seen it many times. And as I already stated, the problem is more the adults than the kids.... bad parents or self-absorbed childless pricks.
 
2009-12-09 12:22:26 PM  

A-Rth-Urp-Hil-Ipdenu: soupgoblin: yakmans_dad: Needlessly Complicated: moothemagiccow: CynicalLA: If you bring a baby to movie and don't walk out when it starts crying. You deserve more than a slap.

[snip]

You just have to feel sorry for kids today, their parents don't even have the sense not to take a baby to a theater. How can we expect children to be considerate and respectful to others when their parents don't even understand those concepts?

Oh, brother. A couple of friends and I felt like catching a scary movie so we went to one of the Exorcist-like ones. Can't remember the name, the remake of the one with the evil/son-of-satan/indigo-baby/whatever boy trying to kill his mum by tricylcing her over the stairs.

Anyways, we have had idiot parents ruin a movie before (bringing your 6 month old to LOTR: TTT, really? WTF?) so we make sure to get tickets for the 10pm show. I mean, that should do it, right? WRONG.

These two exemplars of parenting ineptitude brought their three kids along, ages 1, 3 and 5. WTF? The kids got restless, of course, started crying, talking loudly, shouting at the screen, etc. People were shhing them but to no avail.

After 20 or so minutes of this I went out and talked to the manager about it. She said they couldn't keep them from going in to begin with because movie classification was informative only and not grounds to bar entry to the theater. I told her that these people were preventing the rest of us from enjoying the movie and could she please do something about it?

The manager agreed and told me she would come in with me and if the parents were still not doing anything about their kids then she would take action.

The kids kept going at it and the parents kept ignoring people's complaints so the lady stepped in and asked them to go. I was too far from them to hear how it went but they didn't seem to fuss too much about being kicked out.

Man, how the crowd cheered when they got their asses kicked out.

/feels bad for the kids
//hates parents like these
///so much work for a so-so movie, damnit


I'm calling bullshiat on the fact you would have had no idea how old the kids are.
 
2009-12-09 12:24:49 PM  

Gonz: Short-circuit the process, and leave the kids at home whenever possible.


Or take the children and promise to buy them a drink or some candy for after dinner if they behave. Children need to learn how to behave in public. They also need to learn how to accept "no" for an answer. The more you expose them to situations where they learn how to behave, the more they learn which actions are appropriate in public and which actions are unacceptable and could earn them punishment.
 
2009-12-09 1:00:55 PM  

Gonz:
Also, if at all possible, have one parent go to the grocery while the other stays with the kids. Movies are one thing (get a damn babysitter!), but it's a whole other level of cruel to take a young child to the supermarket. A bunch of bright, colorful packaging and crap food that they have seen commercials for? Here's how it's going to go down: the child will ask for/try to grab a ton of stuff that's exceptionally unhealthy, the parent will say "no" a lot, the kid will get more and more frustrated, and eventually will cry. Short-circuit the process, and leave the kids at home whenever possible.



Taking a kid to the supermarket = cruelty?!? What color is the sky in your world? I guess you've never heard of single parents, either. Supermarkets are big open places with high ceilings and piped in Muzak. I can barely hear a person ten feet from me, let alone a crying baby in the next aisle. Any kid old enough to identify junk food at the supermarket from a TV commercial is old enough to handle a "no" without crying. Do kids throw tantrums in the store anyway? Sure, but walk 15 feet away and it shouldn't bother you much. And food shopping is not the mall or a movie house. When you need food, you need it. Besides there's a lot for kids to learn about in a grocery store. It's not like you can schedule around a kid's bad mood.
 
2009-12-09 2:12:56 PM  
Why slap the adult?? Why not slap the lil noisemaker!
 
2009-12-09 2:43:33 PM  

Duyogurt: Eh, a smack to the back of the head? Non-event for life long New Yorkers.

Just last night I saw a man get stabbed for no good reason on the uptown #5 train in front of a two dozen people during the rush hour commute by a nut-bag. What happened to you yesterday while going home?

Yeah, that's what I thought.


So, you're expressing pride at living in a fetid armpit of America?

Mmkay.
 
2009-12-09 3:11:49 PM  
And here I thought nothing good ever came out of a Starbucks.
 
2009-12-09 4:11:41 PM  
While I often find myself annoyed with other peopels kids, you've got to respect their right to be annoyign in public. Hell, if I don't like it I can leave.

On that note, if people with kids don't want their kids exposed to curse words and such, they can keep their kids at home. If they don't like it they can leave.

It's America, we both have th eright to annoy the hell out of eachother!
 
2009-12-09 4:35:34 PM  

evilbred: A-Rth-Urp-Hil-Ipdenu: soupgoblin: yakmans_dad: Needlessly Complicated: moothemagiccow: CynicalLA: If you bring a baby to movie and don't walk out when it starts crying. You deserve more than a slap.

[snip]


I'm calling bullshiat on the fact you would have had no idea how old the kids are.


I guess I should've said 1-ish, 3-ish and 5-ish. Is that better? Not that I care when may or may not call bullshiat in Fark, of all places.
 
2009-12-09 5:24:31 PM  

1lastcall: Mad-Hamlet: /Watch my kids like a hawk.
//strict, expect sterling behavior from them.
///Kill you if you look at them funny.

Seconded."


Thirded. Also, cool story bro.
 
2009-12-09 5:48:19 PM  
Teaching a child how to act in a grocery story is the keystone to behaving in public. All it takes is a few "practice" trips. Set the rules before entering the store, ie no begging, no pleading, no whining, etc. If broken, you get one warning, if broken again, we will walk out of the store without any groceries. Be prepared, you will be tested. Start out in the dry foods area (because you will probably have to leave the cart when you walk out). Kid whines a few times, just escort them out. (this should be done when they are little enough to carry out, in case of full tantrum mode, but will still work on older kids). The shock and awe from leaving a cart full of food and going home is priceless. (it is also a nice touch to slip one of the employees a few bucks to unload your cart). To add to that effect, you can make a really kid-unfriendly meal that night and whine about how much you could have had a really awesome dinner, if only kid hadn't fussed so much at the store you had to leave. The kid will start whining again on the next trip, again to test you. Gently remind him/her what happened last time. If done properly you will soon have the best behaved kid in the store, without ever having to raise your voice. Praise them greatly when you get home, and maybe reinforce it with a special treat or bonus play time every now and then.

//my 2 cents
 
2009-12-09 6:21:17 PM  
I can control my dog enough to stop him from barking in any situation. I decided to get a dog. I can control him. If you decide to have a kid, control it. You don't want to hear my dog bark, I don't want to hear your brat cry. If you can't control the sound/ volume of your little shiat, have the decency to get the little hellian the hell out hearing distance from the rest of us.

Dogs > Kids
 
2009-12-09 6:23:53 PM  
Well, this is a monumental day. I had to sign up for an account because for the first time in over 5 years nobody has already said what I would. The posting delay has made me late to the party, but what I post here today needs to be said by somebody.

This whole "Who slapped the dad?" thing could have easily been avoided if he had merely "accidentally" spilled his Venti upon the guy. The parent would have excused themselves (for the wrong reasons, obviously.) and the problem would be solved. This tactic has proven to work with that yuppie barking on his cel phone as well as with the people who just wont shut up in theaters. I have even gotten up to GET a drink and if you haven't shut up by the time I am back, I trip while passing you to my seat. OOPS! (I even feign 1000 grovelling apologies.) Airplanes are a different matter, and for that reason I have headphones.

I know kids can be unruly, and I DO cut some slack, especially if the parent is struggling. But if the parent does nothing AT ALL, well, then you're just asking for trouble. Actually, any time that you draw attention to yourself in public you can have a whole batch of "Do not want" dropped in your lap. If you're acting irresponsibly or antisocially, people such as myself will LINE UP to correct your behavior. I have accidentally spilled drinks on a lot of social rejects, and after they have left, I have been applauded, AND had my drink refilled FOR FREE.

Sure, out of the 20 or so times in my life where that line has been crossed, there have been about 2 confrontations but those were quickly dealt with as well. Most people rally to the side of the klutz rather than the person rolling up their sleeve. I've never had to get my hands dirty defending myself, though I have been prepared to do so on every encounter.

People like tbyte make my blood boil. If your kids don't listen to you, that means they have no respect for you either. So why should anyone else? You obviously don't have any self-respect to begin with. I was corrected for my behavior as a child, taken home before getting my happy meal, etc, and you know what? I stopped acting up in public because I knew nothing good would come of it. "Kids will be kids" is merely saying, "I don't know WTF I am doing, please call child services before my snowflake becomes the next Manson." Your kids behave within guidelines that YOU as parents set as acceptable behavior. (At least while in your presence.)

Now people like LadyDblade (For thinking outside the box and having a very caring approach.) & Mad-Hamlet (For sticking up for his children when someone who'd sooner dump a drink in everyone's lap pipes up.) on the other hand are fine examples of parents, and if more were like them I'd be dumping far less coffee/soda/w.h.y.

Now I just wish everyone had the stones to "accidentally" dump their drink (So long as it isn't BEER.) on that asshat who thought that society "owed" them the right to be an idiot. Going out would be a LOT more pleasant.
 
2009-12-09 11:33:56 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: Why slap the adult?? Why not slap the lil noisemaker!


I know you're trolling but if the slapper had struck the baby then daddy & the rest of the people in Starbucks would have probably torn him limb from limb and he would have probably been arrested too. That is, if he lived.
 
2009-12-10 12:27:11 AM  

Quaranj:

[snip]



You dear sir/madam, have been read. And applauded.

/never thought of the spilled drink defense
 
2009-12-10 3:09:21 PM  

Quaranj: Well, [voluminous attempt to justify passive aggressive idiocy].


Can't tell you the number of "accidental" elbows I have thrown at "accidental" klutzes. Passive aggressive pussies like you should be set on fire and thrown out a high window.
 
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