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2003-03-27 02:41:07 PM  
This just shows the governments inabilty to grasp what we're at war with. Were fighting a people that rejects reason and embraces faith. The two are incompatible. So what does are stupid government do embrace faith and religion. We are at war with Islamic fundamentalism not terrorism. Bush's failure to recongnize this is why we will not win against militant Islam. Bush himself is for faith based intiatives etc. In order to identify the enemy he would have to reject his own god and he won't do that. So instead will try to fight wars with out killing anyone and lose more American lives in the process. Imagine if in world war 2 when we were at war with Japan if we would have come out and said we are at war with Kamikazzism.
 
2003-03-27 02:41:23 PM  
Joey JoJo Junior Shabadoo
As for nations that have been better off for a belief in God, my historical knowledge isn't that great. I'm familiar with plenty of Biblical history that would attest to that, but that is garbage evidence if you don't believe the Bible.

Have you actually read the bible? "Better" is not a word I would use to describe a nation/tribe/whatever that comits genocide against people because they believe in a different deity. "Better" is not a word I would use to describe a nation that forces rape victims to marry their rapist, as is commanded in Deuteronomy 22:28, 29. If you don't have a bible at hand, I reccomend this site


And with thay, I'm out of here.
 
2003-03-27 02:41:51 PM  
Aunt of dogface - re: Jim Croce

Jim Croce died in a plane crash in Louisiana while touring, FYI. Absolute shame.
 
2003-03-27 02:44:15 PM  
"I always begin my prayer in silence, for it is in the silence of the heart that God speaks. God is the friend of silence - we need to listen to God because it's not what we say but what He says to us and through us that matters."

Mama Tess (Mother Theresa)

Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
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Therefore when thou doest [thine] alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites [are]: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

J.C. (Matthew 6:1-6:8)
 
2003-03-27 02:44:31 PM  
Memo to government: protect the freedom of those who want to pray, protect the freedom of those who do not, shut your pie holes.
 
2003-03-27 02:45:18 PM  
-jesus was not a conservative and he certainly would not support this war.

anyone who claims to the contrary is a tool of the devil.

this rogue administration that has taken over america will fail.
 
2003-03-27 02:46:15 PM  
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2003-03-27 02:47:07 PM  
I wish there were terrorists who would bomb The Vatican and Mecca and any other dopey religious structure. People need to wise up and realize that religion causes more problems than it solves. It's an excuse for people who can't take responsibility for their own lives.
Crap like this is what gives retards like Jack Chick a voice. Granted his stuff is super-funny to those of us who know better, but some people actually believe it.

Deep inside I wish it read "Now is a good time to play Dungeons and Dragons, read Darwin, and join the Masons". I love to see fundamentalists go nuts.
 
2003-03-27 02:48:22 PM  
jesus was not a conservative and he certainly would not support this war.

Why should we care what Jesus would do.
 
2003-03-27 02:48:54 PM  
(War Prayer - By Mark Twain)

"God's servant and yours has prayed his prayer. Has he paused and taken thought? Is it one prayer? No, it is two- one uttered, the other not. Both have reached the ear of His Who hearth all supplications, the spoken and the unspoken. Ponder this-keep it in mind. If you beseech a blessing upon yourself, beware! lest without intent you invoke a curse upon a neighbor at the same time. If you pray for the blessing of rain upon your crop which needs it, by that act you are possibly praying for a curse upon some neighbor's crop which may not need rain and can be injured by it.

"You have heard your servant's prayer-the uttered part of it. I am commissioned by God to put into words the other part of it-that part which the pastor, and also you in your hearts, fervently prayed silently. And ignorantly and unthinkingly? God grant that it was so! You heard these words: 'Grant us the victory, O Lord our God!' That is sufficient. The whole of the uttered prayer is compact into those pregnant words. Elaborations were not necessary. When you have prayed for victory you have prayed for many unmentioned results which follow victory-must follow it, cannot help but follow it. Upon the listening spirit of God the Father fell also the unspoken part of the prayer. He commandeth me to put it into words. Listen!

"O Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth to battle-be Thou near them! With them, in spirit, we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it-for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.

(After a pause)

"Ye have prayed it; if ye still desire it, speak! The messenger of the Most High waits."

It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was no sense in what he said.
 
2003-03-27 02:49:50 PM  
Mofo196, religion doesn't cause problems. People do. Religion is just used as an excuse. Get rid of religion and the problems won't subside. People will just come up with a new excuse to justify their actions.
 
2003-03-27 02:49:58 PM  
SmallTownGirl:

Using the capitalized version of god just means that you are referring to a single, almighty God. It doesn't have anything to do with religious affiliation.
 
2003-03-27 02:52:42 PM  
I think this resolution could be fixed with a few minor alterations...

Recognizing the public need for boobies and beer in order to secure the blessings and protection of Providence for the people of the United States and our Armed Forces during the conflict in Iraq and under the threat of terrorism at home.

Whereas the United States is currently engaged in a war on terrorism in response to the attacks of September 11, 2001;

Whereas the Armed Forces of the United States are currently engaged in a campaign to disarm the regime of Saddam Hussein and liberate the people of Iraq;

Whereas, on June 1, 1774, the Virginia House of Burgesses called for a day of boobies and beer as an expression of solidarity with the people of Boston who were under siege by the enemy;

Whereas, on March 16, 1776, the Continental Congress, recognizing that the `Liberties of America are imminently endangered' and the need `to acknowledge the overruling Providence of boobies', called for a day of `Boobies and Beer';

Whereas, on June 28, 1787, during the debate of the Constitutional Convention, Benjamin Franklin, convinced of beer's intimate involvement in human affairs, implored the Congress to seek the assistance of beer in all its dealings;

Whereas, on March 30, 1863, in the midst of the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln, at the bequest of the Senate, and himself recognizing the need of the Nation to humble itself before boobies in repentance for its national sins, proclaimed a day of boobies and beer;

Whereas all of the various faiths of the people of the United States have recognized, in our drinking traditions, the need for boobies and beer;

Whereas boobies and beer in times of danger have long been rooted in our essential national convictions and have been a means of producing unity and solidarity among all the diverse people of this Nation;

Whereas, through boobies and beer, we may better recognize our own faults and shortcomings and submit to the wisdom and love of boobies in order that we may have guidance and strength in those daily actions and decisions we must take; and

Whereas dangers and threats to our Nation persist and, in this time of peril, it is appropriate that the people of the United States, leaders and citizens alike, seek guidance, strength, and resolve through beer and boobies: Now, therefore, be it


Resolved, That it is the sense of the House of Representatives that the President should issue a proclamation--

(1) designating a day for boobies and beer for all people of the United States; and

(2) calling on all people of the United States--

(A) to observe the day as a time of boobies and beer;

(B) to seek guidance from beer to achieve a greater understanding of our own failings and to learn how we can do better in our everyday activities; and

(C) to gain resolve in meeting the boobies that confront our Nation.
 
2003-03-27 02:53:24 PM  
What the fark do we need prayers for? Isn't that why we have weapons? And that's on both sides.

Further proof that holy wars are won by the side with the best guns, most cannon fodder, and more powerful imaginary guy in the sky.
 
2003-03-27 02:57:02 PM  
Vote Karlmer in 04
 
2003-03-27 02:57:03 PM  
03-27-03 02:39:49 PM KazamaSmokers: Thanks for showing the error of my ways!! I must have done one too many bong hits when watching Behind the Music on VH1. Harry Chapin/Jim Croce - both good musicians - too bad they are gone...
 
2003-03-27 02:57:07 PM  
If this works, thanks Toriko!

If not, bite my ass Toriko!
 
2003-03-27 02:59:40 PM  
I know this is WAY too late, but, having a life, I haven't been able to keep up with the flamewar. Here goes:
03-27-03 11:19:30 AM Kpar90
Dr Learned: So all that prayer in schools talk while Bush was in Texas wasn't an attempt to cram religion down our throats?

You must be a fundie too.


Ladies and gentlemen, I present Kpar90 with the gold medal in the conclusion jumping contest!!

Read my post, meatball. I'm not a christian, nor is this thread about prayer in schools. In Texas. Sheesh.

You are welcome to blast me if you want, but please do yourself the favor of doing it based on my posts, not your mistaken guess at what my opinions are. Otherwise, you look like an a-hole.

No one is forcing my kids to pray in school, not even Dubya. If this is happening to your kids, call the ACLU, I'm sure they can get you some money for the injustice.

/goes away due to responsibilities for another couple hours/
 
2003-03-27 03:00:18 PM  
A bunch of non-name, obscure, ain't got nut'n better to do, Reps sponsor a bill. In the British Parlimentary system these wannabees are refered to as "Back Benchers". Proving once again the folks of the U.S.A. are over represented and over governered. Tax cuts... shiat! Cut government spending and cut the house in half.
 
2003-03-27 03:00:49 PM  
For some reason, seperating church and idiots hasn't worked very well. I wonder why that is? Hmmm....
 
2003-03-27 03:02:12 PM  
Mofomisfit and Sherkahn-it just seems like the act of voting, arguably the most patriotic thing you cna do in the US, has been desecrated. this last presidential 'election' blew me away. there was obviously a miscarriage of justice, who knows who florida would have voted for if it had been done fairly. agh! i know i enjoy a very high standard of living and freedoms that most of the rest of the world doesn't even dream of... but what's been hapenning here since the last 'election' has been ludicrous.
 
2003-03-27 03:02:29 PM  
Vote Karlmer/Tsunami in 04
 
2003-03-27 03:03:44 PM  
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2003-03-27 03:05:45 PM  
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2003-03-27 03:08:01 PM  
All the more reason to stay and effect change Unterseeboot. Less than two years and we can start undoing some of the damage. I'll tell you, there's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again. And you can quote me on that.
 
2003-03-27 03:08:37 PM  
Something tells me that BlindHamster won't be happy until his country is safe. You know, not crawling with brown skinned people and them 'colored' folk. He's looking for an ethnically cleansed world, a place where he and his white brethren can hold hands in peace and solidarity, because we all know, its those brown folks that fark everything up.

/sarcasm

Open your eyes, asshole, racial profiling is farked up.
 
2003-03-27 03:08:48 PM  
Woohoo! I love to see the anti-religious zealots get their panties all in a wad!

/pulls up armchair
 
2003-03-27 03:08:49 PM  
How about we all send flowers and oranges to Iraq. Anyone in their right mind will like flowers. And oranges. Oranges are great. So they will be enjoying their flowers and oranges and not fighting. Then the US guys will come and enjoy the flowers and oranges with them. Who needs human meat grinders - they got oranges and flowers!
 
2003-03-27 03:09:30 PM  
Is the word whereas really used anymore except in government resolutions?
 
2003-03-27 03:09:57 PM  
there is like 500 something posts on this page...AND NO SIGN OF BEVETS. he would get an erection over a bill like this...but no where to be seen!
 
2003-03-27 03:14:28 PM  
Joey JoJo Junior Shabadoo: My beliefs- and my obedience to principles my religion teaches, have made me happy. Therefore I want others to feel that same happiness.

"I want others to feel that same happiness" is also popular with pedophiles and drug pushers.
 
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2003-03-27 03:15:07 PM  
Any farker tries to make me pray and not eat (you just try it, go on) and i'll start my own jihad agianst the church/government that has the balls to take away my freedom.

There only doing cause the hate my freedom.
 
2003-03-27 03:15:41 PM  
Let's worship the sun, but pray to Joe Pesci.
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He looks like a guy who can get things done.

/Carlin
 
Zed
2003-03-27 03:15:42 PM  
to farkers:

Over react much?
 
2003-03-27 03:16:22 PM  
03-27-03 02:45:18 PM Bauer
-jesus was not a conservative and he certainly would not support this war.

anyone who claims to the contrary is a tool of the devil.

this rogue administration that has taken over america will fail.


w00t!
It's the new and improved Bevets, folks.
Now with 50% more psychosis.
 
2003-03-27 03:17:37 PM  
Jesus, save me from your followers.
 
2003-03-27 03:17:41 PM  
"Over react much?" WTF!!!!! NO! STFU!!!!!!

;)

/really gotta go....
 
2003-03-27 03:17:55 PM  
-when bush is impeached...do 'we the people' get a bakers' dozen?

-cheney
-rumsfeld
-powell
-rice
-wolfowitz
-poindexter
-kissinger
-ashcroft
-saxby chambliss
-trent lott
-rupert murdoch
-ariel sharron

extra points would include:

-other neo-con zionists...well...you know who you are.

-i am watching you.
 
2003-03-27 03:19:22 PM  
under god shouldn't be in the pledge...and wasn't until we were afraid of the communists and their great ideas of everyone being equal...

nor should in god we trust be on our coins...nor was it till we were afraid of the communists...

I may just have to overeat and sacrifice something to a peace demon...
 
2003-03-27 03:21:00 PM  
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2003-03-27 03:21:18 PM  
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This is Joe Pitts, one of the authors and representing Lancaster County (home of the Amish)
@$$h@t
 
2003-03-27 03:21:18 PM  
DangerMouse:

Woohoo! I love to see the anti-religious zealots get their panties all in a wad!

Yeah, those Muslim-hating idiots get all uptight about nothing.
 
2003-03-27 03:24:02 PM  
TenDeuChen

Peace demon. What a great name.
 
2003-03-27 03:25:48 PM  
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"Whoever decides that all the peaceful means made available under international law are exhausted assumes a grave responsibility before God, his conscience and history."
 
2003-03-27 03:28:51 PM  
Whoah kids, my previous post was sarcasm.

As far as George Bush being impeached...
Hah aha hhahhahahahaaaha ha aha

Oooooh watch out fellas, Bauer is watching you... ahaha
 
2003-03-27 03:33:22 PM  
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2003-03-27 03:33:56 PM  
-i doubt that any democrats will have the backbone to impeach this 'man'(i and i use the term lightly), however...

only 1 1/2 years and we can vote that criminal out of office so he can face a war crimes tribunal.

-hooray !!

if we are still breathing...that is.
 
2003-03-27 03:34:29 PM  
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2003-03-27 03:35:09 PM  
This War is very confusing:

US media - Yay, the Iraqi people will be tasting the sweet smell of freedom soon. Rejoice ye all especially children of Iraq.

Brit media - Man, we and our US allies are getting our asses kicked sooo bad.

Arab media - The Iraqi people are getting slaughtered and everyone is REALLY pissed at the Americans.

French media - Don't know, I don't speak french. I surrender.
 
2003-03-27 03:47:42 PM  
Make up your mind Bauer, is he going to be impeached or not?

Didn't I hear today that both Clinton and Daschle made some sort of pro Bush, pro war comments very recently?

If this war is a success, Bush and Blair will be considered heroes. Worldwide opinion will change and as far as public opinion, 70%+ support this war.

CNN: Sir, are you aware that Bauer is "watching" you?
President George W. Bush: who?
 
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