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2001-09-18 11:46:08 AM  
Is this why we dont use any ananova articles anymore? You two need to quit your petty fighting and get alone for the betterment of Interweb news.
 
2001-09-18 11:49:18 AM  
Petty fighting? Ananova is stealing from Fark without credit. Atleast Fark links to the actual site where they got the news from, instead of taking credit for reporting it themselves.

fark Ananova and their unprofessionalism in the ear.
 
2001-09-18 11:52:23 AM  
that was MY post and i havent been credited with it!!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
 
2001-09-18 11:53:38 AM  
...reports The News Observer. (with a link)

They gave credit in the 7th paragraph of the story.
 
2001-09-18 11:54:08 AM  
There is a talk radio host here in Houston who gets stories from Fark all of the time. The only way you would notice is if you check Fark everyday. Once or twice a week, he'll pull something obscure that really gives him away.
 
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2001-09-18 11:54:42 AM  
I'm sure if they had a 'fark' tag they would use it. Boo hoo.
 
2001-09-18 11:54:44 AM  
Here's the deal: the link we listed was from January 2000 from the local Lexington newspaper. The reason we listed it is we asked folks to go through our archives and pull out old funny Fark stories.

I find it hard to believe that Ananova was just coincidentally reading the local Lexington newspaper's back issues and happened to post at the same time. This story was listed nowhere else but here, because it was 18 months old.

People get stuff from Fark all the time. It doesn't bother me in the least, even when we're not creditted with finding it. Bob and Tom do use Fark for material, I called and asked and got confirmation. However, we haven't exactly promoted the hell out of them, so I don't fret that they don't credit us. I asked them if they would once in awhile, but if they don't so it goes.

It's this particular situation with Ananova that I don't like. The difference is, we've supported them, they don't support us. In a nutshell that's the problem. It's just not cool. Especially considering all the traffic we've sent them over the past two years. Nearly 600k hits sent to them adds up to some decent ad revenue. Especially if some of the folks become regular readers.

What they did isn't illegal, it's unprofessional. I'm not even pissed off about this, just disappointed. So it goes, though.
 
2001-09-18 11:58:58 AM  
Ananova: Strip-mining your sources isn't cool.
 
2001-09-18 12:03:53 PM  
We need to come up with some red herrings for them to pick up and report on...
 
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2001-09-18 12:04:30 PM  
Fark needs porno banners and popups like stileproject.
 
2001-09-18 12:06:13 PM  
still FUMING

soiling self with anger...
 
2001-09-18 12:08:27 PM  
Ananova is now reporting on sGamers party.
 
2001-09-18 12:11:19 PM  
...and its not the first time i havent been credited either i might add!!!
 
2001-09-18 12:12:48 PM  
Fb-: Get a farking grip on yourself, you're the only one that's been whining in the last 20 threads I've seen.
 
2001-09-18 12:13:46 PM  
It's counting it Cormee. Top Submitters only updates once a day. Click on your own userinfo, you'll see it.

Btw for folks wondering how that works exactly, the number of articles submitted is the number of undeleted records in the actually database. It's calculated, not stored. When you click on an individual user it immediately runs a count. I can't affect it one way or the other.

I probably should get Top Submitters updating more often than it is...
 
2001-09-18 12:14:17 PM  
Too many people are worrying about Annanova mining news from Fark instead of concentrating on their relationship with Jesus
 
2001-09-18 12:25:26 PM  
I wonder if this would ever create a causality loop of news between fark and Ananova.


Anafarka.com
 
2001-09-18 12:25:50 PM  
Jesus doesn't data mine, he saves, I think.
 
2001-09-18 12:28:39 PM  
You know what to do: fake news story - just have it up for an hour or so. Believable, quotes, the whole 9. Only place on the web. Then, let 'em have it!
 
2001-09-18 12:30:29 PM  
Oh quit whining already. You do it to memepool and crackbaby.com and slashdot and a bunch of others and then people do it to you. Big deal. And then when you don't want to mention the source you just put 'some guy'. I figure you are just the same Drew and I'm amazed and disappointed that you are being such a hypocrite about all this. This is what passes for news on Fark???
 
2001-09-18 12:31:48 PM  
"Lies make baby Jesus cry"

Todd Flanders
 
2001-09-18 12:32:53 PM  
Admin trolling's not allowed, doo-dah, doo-dah...
 
2001-09-18 12:35:35 PM  
Firewall Ananova's IPs then.
 
2001-09-18 12:40:03 PM  
happier cormee. thankoo
 
2001-09-18 12:46:40 PM  
I think it's different, because Fark doesn't post the actual articles and claim them for themselves, we post the links to articles.
 
2001-09-18 12:56:17 PM  
Ya Foofoobar, the submitter puts in where they are sourcing it from, not Drew (So I think) whenever I post something (once or twice a year) I always select where it's coming from. So yell at everyone else, not Drew. Late.
 
2001-09-18 01:18:34 PM  
Lets make it self referential and create an infite loop of a story about a story being taken from a site...

Annanova will mine Fark.
Fark will post a story about Annanova's mining.
Annanova will post a story about Annanova's mining!
 
2001-09-18 01:57:10 PM  
Annanova needs to learn how to spell. Can't even spell SCHOOL right.


Rodney Nelson, principal of Jordan High Scholl...

 
2001-09-18 01:59:06 PM  
All I'm saying is this kind of whining would be like Slashdot complaining about everyone linking to articles that they linked to 5 months ago. Who cares!!
 
2001-09-18 02:05:24 PM  
Ok, I've got the solution... anytime anyone on the planet ever links to any other story after Drew puts it up here, they all have to bow down and pay homage to Drew for 5 minutes, provide a link back to Fark and a disclaimer stating that this was first seen on Fark and that this disclaimer is provided to support Drew's overblown ego and self-importance. Does your penis feel bigger yet? Here, let me stroke it more for you. Geezo, get over it already.
 
2001-09-18 02:22:45 PM  
Foofoobar- you're an idiot.
 
2001-09-18 02:52:05 PM  
Watcher - Couldn't agree more.
 
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2001-09-18 02:59:37 PM  
I submitted it, but I'm certain Drew won't post it. I wanted people to see anyway.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Ananova+sucks+ass

Fark is #1 and #2 in Google search for "Ananova sucks ass"
 
2001-09-18 03:22:01 PM  
Ok, I've got the solution... anytime anyone on the planet ever links to any other story after Drew puts it up here, they all have to bow down and pay homage to Drew for 5 minutes, provide a link back to Fark and a disclaimer stating that this was first seen on Fark and that this disclaimer is provided to support Drew's overblown ego and self-importance. Does your penis feel bigger yet? Here, let me stroke it more for you. Geezo, get over it already.

-MoonUnit

Oh wait, did you think those were my original thoughts? Welcome to the difference between linking to a story and retyping it as if it were their own, Foofoobar. Learn it, live it, embrace it.

Don't listen to such goofballs, Drew, you rock.
 
2001-09-18 03:27:24 PM  
I sent this email to the suggestion department at Ananova yesterday:


Sent: 17 September 2001 09:00
To: suggestions­[nospam-﹫-backwards]av­on­an­a*com
Subject: I have a suggestion for you...

I have a suggestion for you. Regarding this story:

"Incompetents don't know they are incompetent"
Story filed: 15:53 Monday 17th September 2001

Stop stealing stories from www.fark.com without giving them credit. Fark sends you tons of hits almost every day- and you slap them in the face. Check this link for the proof: http://www.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=47314

Have a nice day,
--- Kenney McCulloch


And they sent this reply today:

Hi Kenney

Thanks for your message. I have looked into your complaint and found that this story is actually 18 months old so we have removed it from our site.

The story was attributed to the original source of The Journal of Personality and Social Psychology. I would like to thank you for bringing this to our attention.

Best wishes

Simon Glover

Head of News

Which I guess just basically means: why do your own story hunting when youve got fark to do it for you. Or something like that.
 
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2001-09-18 03:31:42 PM  
Fark.com declared a Jihad on Ananova. Holy war will be bloodiest ever unless Ananova infadels admit to being wrong. Film at 11.
 
2001-09-18 03:32:37 PM  
From the page in the link:

BREAKING NEWS: Osama bin Laden has fled on horseback after taking an oath of allegiance from a 500-strong suicide squad, it has been reported. Full story
 
2001-09-18 03:41:49 PM  
Here is a link to the original story from DAWN in Pakistan
 
2001-09-18 04:21:37 PM  
{paying homage to Drew for 5 minutes and providing a link back to Fark and a disclaimer stating that this was first seen on Fark and that this disclaimer is provided to support Drew's overblown ego and self-importance.}

As far as I'm concerned, Drew has, along with a few friends, set up a blog that is internationally recognized for being relevant, interesting, and timely.


{/paying homage to Drew for 5 minutes and providing a link back to Fark and a disclaimer stating that this was first seen on Fark and that this disclaimer is provided to support Drew's overblown ego and self-importance.}

PS: Foofoobar has little-man syndrome.
 
2001-09-18 04:22:52 PM  
What kind of farking name is Charity?
 
2001-09-18 04:26:05 PM  
Oops, sorry...
 
2001-09-18 05:31:21 PM  
I just think it's funny that FOT called Ananova on spelling "school" wrong, but spelled it "Annanova" in his post. tee hee
 
2001-09-18 06:00:53 PM  
Petty fighting? Ananova is stealing from Fark without credit.

Are you insane? Fark does not create content, there's nothing to steal. Just about everything here is off AP or Reuters be it in yahoo or cnn form. Ananova has been ripping off AP and other news CONTENT providers and rewriting articles since its inception.

Fark is not the center of the internet. Its not even close.
 
2001-09-18 06:12:19 PM  
Skallas: It's the center of MY Internet. (Bats eyes coyly, steals glance at Drew. Bats eyes again. Sighs.)
 
2001-09-18 06:22:25 PM  
(/latency)
 
2001-09-18 07:21:51 PM  
Drew:I use fark articles for my current events for school. Ive given credit to ya to the teacher when she asked how I got all these obscure articles :)
 
2001-09-18 07:22:34 PM  
Couldn't agree more Skallas. Drew just needs his ego stroked because apparently he thinks links can be owned.
 
2001-09-18 07:37:24 PM  
all your stories are belong to me
 
2001-09-18 08:30:27 PM  
I believe that Fark allowed this to happen. God has lifted the curtain of protection from Fark and allowed the attack of Ananova on its news items. Fark needs to repent.
 
2001-09-18 08:50:42 PM  
Goblinking>> It's lucky for you that you gave credit or Farks lawyers would have come down on you. I think they own everything that Fark links to by default, right? At least that's the way this thread is going.
 
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