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(ABC News)   Ric Romero, consumer news reporter and part-time dictionary: "A growing number of savvy consumers are turning to bartering by trading skills, services or goods with one another, without exchanging any money"   (abclocal.go.com) divider line
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DAR [TotalFark]
2009-10-18 9:48:38 AM  
Too bad hookers wouldn't accept a truck load of firewood instead of cash. I'll even stack it up for them.
 
2009-10-18 10:24:14 AM  
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"Awwwww, 20 dollars... But I wanted a peanut!"
 
2009-10-18 10:30:27 AM  
I do this often. Last year an electrician set up my generator to run my house for in exchange for installing a bathroom vinyl. 1 1/2 hours of my day saved me at least $200.
 
2009-10-18 10:41:19 AM  
Since I've been coming here, I've seen many headlines using Ric Romero as the poster child for obviousness. This is the first time I've actually seen him "reporting", and all of the previous calls of obviousness just became more real.
 
2009-10-18 11:10:07 AM  
My God. How is it possible to "barter" without "exchanging any money?"

The mind reels at the concept
 
2009-10-18 11:11:57 AM  
does he know that he is a FARKism?
 
2009-10-18 11:12:17 AM  

Kredal: Since I've been coming here, I've seen many headlines using Ric Romero as the poster child for obviousness. This is the first time I've actually seen him "reporting", and all of the previous calls of obviousness just became more real.


Does he ever post on fark? I wonder if he knows about his fan club here.
 
2009-10-18 11:13:45 AM  

LaChanz: I do this often. Last year an electrician set up my generator to run my house for in exchange for installing a bathroom vinyl. 1 1/2 hours of my day saved me at least $200.


I'm telling you, barter rocks. I set up a small website, get my chimney swept, do some print adverts, get the roof repaired. Costs me nothing but a bit of time and no taxes out of my pocket.

I really dig it.
 
2009-10-18 11:14:20 AM  
I've been doing this for years as a knitter.

/people love fitted wool socks
 
2009-10-18 11:15:17 AM  
Musicians (well,bar bands) have been doing this for years. Not news.

/obvious tag rules
//Ric does not
/still drunk
 
2009-10-18 11:16:02 AM  
Good to see he is still rocking that nice steesh.
 
2009-10-18 11:18:08 AM  

Kredal: Since I've been coming here, I've seen many headlines using Ric Romero as the poster child for obviousness. This is the first time I've actually seen him "reporting", and all of the previous calls of obviousness just became more real.


I've seen a couple other times where he was super obvious as well. I wonder if he knows and he's making it his thing. If he isn't, he should.

As for this bartering thing, I've heard a few politicians getting pissy about it, calling it "the underground economy" and getting all harrumphy because no one is paying taxes on the transactions. My parents always swapped all kinds of stuff for veterinary services on the farm. Car parts and repairs, welding, masonry, chimney sweeping, lumber, etc. Offering money instead of a swap can be considering insulting in some cases. Trying to give $20 is rude but handing over a big pork roast is not.
 
2009-10-18 11:22:17 AM  

yice33: does he know that he is a FARKism?



he sure will if he ever looks himself up on wikipedia. i suppose that will come with his investigative reporting about online information sharing in a couple of years.

wiki link
Link (new window)
 
2009-10-18 11:23:59 AM  

badhatharry: Kredal: Since I've been coming here, I've seen many headlines using Ric Romero as the poster child for obviousness. This is the first time I've actually seen him "reporting", and all of the previous calls of obviousness just became more real.

Does he ever post on fark? I wonder if he knows about his fan club here.


Blv he and Pocket Ninja are one and the same. Or maybe Gorgor -- I forget.
 
2009-10-18 11:24:12 AM  
Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
 
2009-10-18 11:24:22 AM  
Hey hunny, how would you like to make $14 the hard way?


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2009-10-18 11:24:35 AM  
You guys have to know Ric Romero does this shiat on purpose now. I mean, come on... He's gotta be doing it for laughs at this point.
 
2009-10-18 11:25:04 AM  

DAR: Too bad hookers wouldn't accept a truck load of firewood instead of cash. I'll even stack it up for them.


In their line of business they work with wood more often than not.
 
2009-10-18 11:26:18 AM  

phenn: LaChanz: I do this often. Last year an electrician set up my generator to run my house for in exchange for installing a bathroom vinyl. 1 1/2 hours of my day saved me at least $200.

I'm telling you, barter rocks. I set up a small website, get my chimney swept, do some print adverts, get the roof repaired. Costs me nothing but a bit of time and no taxes out of my pocket.

I really dig it.


Not to burst your bubble, but you should be paying taxes on fair value of the services you received. Bartering is a taxable transaction.

Going online posting how you violate tax law isn't the best thing considering the IRS does look for tax evaders online.
 
2009-10-18 11:31:13 AM  

silduk: Not to burst your bubble, but you should be paying taxes on fair value of the services you received. Bartering is a taxable transaction.

Going online posting how you violate tax law isn't the best thing considering the IRS does look for tax evaders online.


Can you pay them in goods? If I give my neighbor a cord of wood for driving my kids to school, can I pay the IRS 3 jars of maple syrup?
 
2009-10-18 11:31:24 AM  

silduk: Not to burst your bubble, but you should be paying taxes on fair value of the services you received. Bartering is a taxable transaction.

Going online posting how you violate tax law isn't the best thing considering the IRS does look for tax evaders online.


As long as they pay taxes on the materials used, I don't see how it should be any different than self-installation. The IRS can suck it.
 
2009-10-18 11:32:03 AM  

clipperbox: yice33: does he know that he is a FARKism?


he sure will if he ever looks himself up on wikipedia. i suppose that will come with his investigative reporting about online information sharing in a couple of years.

wiki link
Link (new window)


I could swear that I read awhile back that he did find out that he was a FARKism and kind of embraced it.
 
2009-10-18 11:34:09 AM  
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A total of 15 fans? The guy's a legend!
 
2009-10-18 11:34:49 AM  
This isn't news. Just last week, I traded two hens and a rock tumbler for my neighbor's 11 year old daughter.
 
2009-10-18 11:37:25 AM  

silduk: phenn: LaChanz: I do this often. Last year an electrician set up my generator to run my house for in exchange for installing a bathroom vinyl. 1 1/2 hours of my day saved me at least $200.

I'm telling you, barter rocks. I set up a small website, get my chimney swept, do some print adverts, get the roof repaired. Costs me nothing but a bit of time and no taxes out of my pocket.

I really dig it.

Not to burst your bubble, but you should be paying taxes on fair value of the services you received. Bartering is a taxable transaction.

Going online posting how you violate tax law isn't the best thing considering the IRS does look for tax evaders online.


And don't forget to collect sales tax and pay income tax for that garage sale. Only half kidding. The government takes collecting taxes very seriously.
 
2009-10-18 11:39:02 AM  
I run a blog that details my life experiences and opinions on various matters. What's someone willing to trade me for that?
 
2009-10-18 11:39:42 AM  
It's not worth bartering services worth $100 for something worth, say, ten bucks.
 
2009-10-18 11:39:43 AM  
Pheph! Apparently Ric forgets that most of mankind started with Trading. Money became part of that trading since it's easier to carry than a goat, chicken or a pig in your pocket.
 
2009-10-18 11:40:02 AM  

DAR: Too bad hookers wouldn't accept a truck load of firewood instead of cash. I'll even stack it up for them.


You'll stack it, you say?

/BRB, gotta talk to the wife.
 
2009-10-18 11:43:58 AM  
I bartered my wife last weekend, I got the better deal.
 
2009-10-18 11:50:27 AM  
It's good to know that Dave is licensed. We have to crack down on the number of unauthorized musicians out there.
 
2009-10-18 11:52:21 AM  
I am a sign maker and I have bartered with others for services. I post on CL and get a few hits per month. It's not great work but it is something to build the portfolio. Usually I require someone to pay for the materials in cash and then the barter is for my time.
 
2009-10-18 11:52:52 AM  

ilikeracecars: silduk: Not to burst your bubble, but you should be paying taxes on fair value of the services you received. Bartering is a taxable transaction.

Going online posting how you violate tax law isn't the best thing considering the IRS does look for tax evaders online.

Can you pay them in goods? If I give my neighbor a cord of wood for driving my kids to school, can I pay the IRS 3 jars of maple syrup?


Yeah, in the olde days, the lord in the castle used to take chickens and sacks of grain as tax payments. Since everyone is turning into peasants again these days, they should bring it back.
 
2009-10-18 11:55:46 AM  

Kyoowashugi: silduk: Not to burst your bubble, but you should be paying taxes on fair value of the services you received. Bartering is a taxable transaction.

Going online posting how you violate tax law isn't the best thing considering the IRS does look for tax evaders online.

As long as they pay taxes on the materials used, I don't see how it should be any different than self-installation. The IRS can suck it.


You installed (x) for your neighbour. He gave you (y) for installing it. The IRS wants their (40%-90%) of the value of (y) in $$ or they will come bust a cap or your a$$.

FairTax
 
2009-10-18 11:57:06 AM  

ChicagoFarker: Money became part of that trading since it's easier to carry than a goat, chicken or a pig in your pocket.


The guys printing the money really like it when you use it instead of bartering, too. Makes it much easier to tax that way.

/Guy just earned himself an audit
//From both the feds and California
 
2009-10-18 11:57:12 AM  
Rick rocks.
 
2009-10-18 11:58:40 AM  

DAR: Too bad hookers wouldn't accept a truck load of firewood instead of cash. I'll even stack it up for them.


dad?
 
2009-10-18 12:00:24 PM  
Can't he simply say he did it himself and that it wasn't bartered at all?
 
2009-10-18 12:02:22 PM  
Nothing new. Women have been exchanging sex for working on their stuff for just about forever. That way its legal, unlike asking for money in most the state.

Alas when I offer sex, if she will cook me dinner, I get slapped. I don't see how it all goes wrong.
 
2009-10-18 12:05:30 PM  
FWIW, some time ago I read that Mr. Romero will not respond to emailers who mention Fark and his notoriety here. He certainly must be aware of it, and that he's been held up here as a clownish cliche for several years now.

Since he's a reporter in a major-network affiliate in a mega-major market, I think his approach to dealing with our peanut gallery makes a lot of sense.

I think it's likely he went to his management years ago and said "all these people from this Fark.com thing are writing me telling me to report on the color of the sky and the wetness of the water. Should I respond?" Management: "Uh, no."

The fact is that as generally highly educated and clued-in as most Farkers are, there are likely many viewers/readers in LA for whom Mr. Romero's musings are real revelations, glimpses of the blindingly obvious though they may be.
 
2009-10-18 12:09:44 PM  

limeyfellow: Nothing new. Women have been exchanging sex for working on their stuff for just about forever. That way its legal, unlike asking for money in most the state.

Alas when I offer sex, if she will cook me dinner, I get slapped. I don't see how it all goes wrong.


You gotta get skilled and talented with it. Then when she's floating around in a happy daze, you make your requests.
 
2009-10-18 12:10:37 PM  

Pardon Me Sultan: A total of 15 fans? The guy's a legend!


I just became a fan, making me #18.

We seriously need to bump this number up big time!
 
2009-10-18 12:12:13 PM  

johnsoninca: "Awwwww, 20 dollars... But I wanted a peanut!"


$20 can buy many peanuts!

/I came in here to post the exact same picture
 
2009-10-18 12:13:31 PM  

portscanner: Kyoowashugi: silduk: Not to burst your bubble, but you should be paying taxes on fair value of the services you received. Bartering is a taxable transaction.

Going online posting how you violate tax law isn't the best thing considering the IRS does look for tax evaders online.

As long as they pay taxes on the materials used, I don't see how it should be any different than self-installation. The IRS can suck it.

You installed (x) for your neighbour. He gave you (y) for installing it. The IRS wants their (40%-90%) of the value of (y) in $$ or they will come bust a cap or your a$$.

FairTax


If it was something the guy owned can't he set the value? If I go out and buy a hammer, when I get home I can say, oh this thing is used and really only worth 5 cents. here's my 2 copper Mr. IRS man.

/loves the fairtax
//Wishes boortz would be less of an ass.
 
2009-10-18 12:18:13 PM  

Grey Street: $20 can buy many peanuts!


Explain how.
 
2009-10-18 12:19:47 PM  

KellyLockhart: Pardon Me Sultan: A total of 15 fans? The guy's a legend!

I just became a fan, making me #18.

We seriously need to bump this number up big time!


#19
 
2009-10-18 12:24:47 PM  

dead_dangler: Explain how.


Money can be exchanged for goods and services.
 
2009-10-18 12:32:48 PM  
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2009-10-18 12:34:29 PM  
There was an extensive network of business in the 80's that subscribed to a barter network in the Bay Area. Guys with restaurants would trade meals (lots of them) for their kids braces, doctors were doing operations for a new roof on their house, etc.

The government shut it down. Aggressively.
 
2009-10-18 12:36:10 PM  
There's a guy in NH that has created an alternative currency backed by his labor.

link (new window)
 
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