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(The Sun)   Despite diseases, highly venomous spiders and flooding, tunnel people are living in giant drains underneath Las Vegas   (thesun.co.uk) divider line
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2009-09-24 11:36:15 AM  
Because, along with hundreds of others, the couple are part of a secret community living in the dark and dirty underground flood tunnels below the famous strip.

Yeah...about that...
 
2009-09-24 11:39:04 AM  
Despite his established set-up, Steven claims he eventually wants to leave the tunnels but can't because of two outstanding arrest warrants from drug possession charges two years ago.

What a retard! He told the newspaper he has outstanding warrants and where the police can find him?
 
2009-09-24 11:43:42 AM  
And my final maddening... I look up "credit hustle" on Google and the only entries about it refer to this exact story.

What the hell is credit hustling? They make it sound like those people that check the coin return on vending machines to see if there's any change left behind.
 
2009-09-24 11:56:24 AM  

jaylectricity: They make it sound like those people that check the coin return on vending machines to see if there's any change left behind.


That's what I gathered. Makes no sense to me either.

Pretty fascinating all-in-all, though. But if they're this organized and motivated to carve out an existence, I don't understand why they can't find stable work and non-subterranean housing. I realize that people can fall through the cracks, but these people decided to stay in the crack and set up house.
 
2009-09-24 12:03:59 PM  
"We get the stuff late at night so people don't see us because it's kind of embarrassing" says the guy who gets this article published with pictures of him and his wife's "bedroom" and quotes of him explaining it to a global audience...
 
2009-09-24 12:40:05 PM  
sewer people...
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2009-09-24 12:40:52 PM  
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2009-09-24 12:58:12 PM  
Came for the CHUDs, leaving satisfied...
 
2009-09-24 1:11:41 PM  

jaylectricity: Despite his established set-up, Steven claims he eventually wants to leave the tunnels but can't because of two outstanding arrest warrants from drug possession charges two years ago.

What a retard! He told the newspaper he has outstanding warrants and where the police can find him?


I don't think the cops are gonna go down in those tunnels looking for him.
 
2009-09-24 1:17:21 PM  

jaylectricity: What the hell is credit hustling? They make it sound like those people that check the coin return on vending machines to see if there's any change left behind.


I think that's exactly what it is.

That whole story is...just....wow.
 
2009-09-24 1:18:29 PM  
Steven moved into the tunnels two years ago after he lost his hotel front-desk job due to a heroin problem he claims he kicked in January.

Yea, because if there's one thing that kicks a drug habit, it's homelessness.
 
2009-09-24 1:23:09 PM  
The Vegas Census workers are going to love this.
 
2009-09-24 1:25:39 PM  
Another couple, Amy and JR, have lived in the tunnels for two years, having moved to Las Vegas in search of work, wealth and a slice of the famous Sin City action.

Putting down the Twilight vampire book she is reading for the third time, Amy, 33, explains


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The main dangers are the floods and the Black Widow spiders. But it's not a terrible place to be if you're homeless.

Floods and killer spiders. Far better than a shelter and a job agency.

Their wedding had some similarities with the 110,000 other couples who get hitched in the city each year.

"We went to watch a show, then to McDonald's for dinner. We got a little bit drunk and did the other normal wedding day things - only we had to come back down here rather than go to a hotel room."


How....romantic.
 
2009-09-24 1:56:18 PM  

jaylectricity: What the hell is credit hustling?


Since this is in Vegas I'm going to guess that the credit hustle in question invlves the following...

The hustler sees some elderly rube having 'problems' with their comp card at a slot machine (generally because it isn't wholly clear how to operate one of the machine but as an alternative the hustler can pre-pooch the cardslot with a cocktail napkin, scotch tape, spent card, somesuch thing)

Kindly hustler offers to help, replacing their gambling card (with credits) with an empty card that anyone can find in the trash. Credits are then cashed in. It's RIPPLE TIME!
 
2009-09-24 2:02:09 PM  
Alternate version. Hustler wearing generic black vest and tie (to look Casino-y. Ask rube what they want to drink (complementary of course), ask them how their luck is going. Bad? Aww, your patronage is important to us here at XXXXXX, can I add some "comps" to your card. (swipe in bullshiate belt gizmo.)


Switch card. Baby needs a new pair of huff rags - JACKPOT!
 
2009-09-24 2:22:53 PM  
What could possibly go wrong?

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^flooding of the Las Vegas tunnels
 
2009-09-24 2:25:16 PM  

brap: Alternate version. Hustler wearing generic black vest and tie (to look Casino-y. Ask rube what they want to drink (complementary of course), ask them how their luck is going. Bad? Aww, your patronage is important to us here at XXXXXX, can I add some "comps" to your card. (swipe in bullshiate belt gizmo.)


That sounds like a good way to find yourself in a back room with your head in a vice.
 
2009-09-24 2:37:14 PM  
ne2d:

A back room and head vice of my own?

After a couple of years of living in the sewer, I'd thank them for the upgrade.
 
2009-09-24 2:57:08 PM  

jaylectricity: What the hell is credit hustling? They make it sound like those people that check the coin return on vending machines to see if there's any change left behind.


It's sort of like that. Basically they just stroll through the rows of slots and video poker machines looking at the screens to see if any credits are left on a vacant machine. It's not unusual for drunk gamblers to walk away from a machine without realizing they still have credits left on it. The hustler can either play the credits or cash them out. It's not really theft, but (not surprisingly) the casinos frown on it if they catch you.
 
2009-09-24 3:34:26 PM  
Hard times have fallen on Lex Luthor and Eve Teschmacher.
 
2009-09-24 3:36:01 PM  
Morlocks?
 
2009-09-24 3:37:35 PM  
Wait, the new Fallout game is out already?!
 
2009-09-24 3:37:52 PM  
There was a tunnel and I saw a goat.
 
2009-09-24 3:38:14 PM  
Not impressed
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2009-09-24 3:38:22 PM  

jaylectricity: Despite his established set-up, Steven claims he eventually wants to leave the tunnels but can't because of two outstanding arrest warrants from drug possession charges two years ago.

What a retard! He told the newspaper he has outstanding warrants and where the police can find him?


And his warrants aren't just pretty good, they are outstanding!
 
2009-09-24 3:38:49 PM  
So if it rains, all the homeless trash gets washed into the desert? Seems like a win - win for Vegas
 
2009-09-24 3:39:58 PM  

Epsilon: jaylectricity: What the hell is credit hustling? They make it sound like those people that check the coin return on vending machines to see if there's any change left behind.

It's sort of like that. Basically they just stroll through the rows of slots and video poker machines looking at the screens to see if any credits are left on a vacant machine. It's not unusual for drunk gamblers to walk away from a machine without realizing they still have credits left on it. The hustler can either play the credits or cash them out. It's not really theft, but (not surprisingly) the casinos frown on it if they catch you.


This.

And the players don't have to be drunk. A lot of them are just old and confused.
 
2009-09-24 3:41:16 PM  

brap: Alternate version. Hustler wearing generic black vest and tie (to look Casino-y. Ask rube what they want to drink (complementary of course), ask them how their luck is going. Bad? Aww, your patronage is important to us here at XXXXXX, can I add some "comps" to your card. (swipe in bullshiate belt gizmo.)


Switch card. Baby needs a new pair of huff rags - JACKPOT!


I'd think either of those card switching scams would be noticed in pretty short order by the casino security. They don't want anybody hustling their customers but THEM, dammit. They hate competition from folks not licensed by the state.

Epsilon: The hustler can either play the credits or cash them out. It's not really theft, but (not surprisingly) the casinos frown on it if they catch you.


Well, yeah. I imagine after a certain amount of time the machines "time out" and the credits are defaulted to the casino. Somebody else coming along and taking them will be seen as taking money that rightfully belongs to the casino.
 
2009-09-24 3:42:17 PM  
In a related story, drain people are living in giant tunnels underneath Las Vegas.
 
2009-09-24 3:42:18 PM  
WTF? An interesting article from The Sun???

/the apocalypse is coming
 
2009-09-24 3:43:01 PM  

Weaver95: jaylectricity: Despite his established set-up, Steven claims he eventually wants to leave the tunnels but can't because of two outstanding arrest warrants from drug possession charges two years ago.

What a retard! He told the newspaper he has outstanding warrants and where the police can find him?

I don't think the cops are gonna go down in those tunnels looking for him.

I'd go, but I'm too...important.
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2009-09-24 3:43:22 PM  
Some day a real rain will come and wash all the scum off the streets.

/low hanger
 
2009-09-24 3:43:29 PM  
/would like to have a word with you
 
2009-09-24 3:44:53 PM  
Bright lights ... Las Vegas' famous strip

Err, that's downtown. Home of the high rollers broke retirees!
 
2009-09-24 3:44:55 PM  
How often does it rain in Vegas to the point where all their crap is washed away, and are they too deep in the tunnel system to know when it is raining? Seems...well thought out.
 
2009-09-24 3:45:23 PM  
Rodents of unusual size? I don't think they exist.
 
2009-09-24 3:45:25 PM  

1. Put snakes on plane: Wait, the new Fallout game is out already?!


I'm so glad I wasn't the only one. I was reading this thinking about shooting ghouls in these tunnels. I hope they're in the game....I can't wait!
 
2009-09-24 3:46:11 PM  
Next on CSI.
 
2009-09-24 3:48:07 PM  

ne2d: brap: Alternate version. Hustler wearing generic black vest and tie (to look Casino-y. Ask rube what they want to drink (complementary of course), ask them how their luck is going. Bad? Aww, your patronage is important to us here at XXXXXX, can I add some "comps" to your card. (swipe in bullshiate belt gizmo.)

That sounds like a good way to find yourself in a back room with your head in a vice.



Nicky Santoro: Listen to me Anthony. I got your head in a farkin' vise. I'll squash your head like a farkin' grapefruit if you don't give me a name. Don't make me have to do this, please. Don't make me be a bad guy, come on.
Tony Dogs: fark you.
Nicky Santoro: This motherfarker, you believe this? Two farking days and nights! fark me? *fark me?* You motherfarker!
[turning the crank]
Nicky Santoro: fark my mother? That's what you farking tell me? You motherfarker you!

/At least Tony Dogs will go down as the toughest Irishman of all time.
 
2009-09-24 3:48:10 PM  
I saw this on Nightline last night. Other than being impressed that these people are living in tunnels designed to handle flood water (almost certain death), I was impressed that one couple admitted getting their income from stealing cards from casinos. Way to tell the police you are criminals squatting in a tunnel... I think the couple I am talking about has a picture in this story.

Also, way to ripoff a Nightline story, Sun.
 
2009-09-24 3:48:22 PM  
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Approves of living in tunnels under the city.
 
2009-09-24 3:49:29 PM  
The sports books should offer over/under wagers on the number of tunnel drownings.
 
2009-09-24 3:50:58 PM  

dennysgod: Approves of living in tunnels under the city.


+1

/ I almost forgot about that TV show..
 
2009-09-24 3:51:17 PM  
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2009-09-24 3:51:46 PM  
The credit hustle they are talking about is very common, working at a casino here in the Midwest we call those people Seagulls, and they are quite prosperous. we don't has nearly as many as Vegas and Atlantic City, but we got them.
 
2009-09-24 3:51:46 PM  
Screw Florida. When my luck finally runs out, I'm hopping a bus for Vegas
 
2009-09-24 3:51:50 PM  
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Approves



Give it a generation or two and we'll have our very own race of mutant sewer people. Hooray!
 
2009-09-24 3:52:00 PM  
"I have my books, my CD player, crossword puzzles, some clothes and my picture of our son Brady, who was killed 11 years ago at four months old."

Much more to this story.
 
2009-09-24 3:52:26 PM  
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First thing that came to mind.
 
2009-09-24 3:52:40 PM  

I am Ahab: Give it a generation or two and we'll have our very own race of mutant sewer people. Hooray!


We can have T-shirts made up! and F-shirts for our friends with both their arms on the same side!
 
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