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2009-08-11 7:31:06 PM  
I love the line:

"A gun is a defensive weapon"

If he sees President Obama as offensively oppressing him then he has every right to use his defensive weapon

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2009-08-11 7:35:15 PM  
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2009-08-11 7:41:10 PM  
I like how he had to be cajoled into saying the entire "Tree of Liberty" quote.

Dude, if you actually believe that quote fits this situation, have the balls to repeat the entire quote. Don't offer some lame "they should look it up" argument. Guess he didn't have his gun on him, so he had no "courage".

/guy was a dickweed and I hope he gets a visit from the Secret Service.
 
2009-08-11 7:42:40 PM  
Seriously, you have the right to bear arms, but don't bring them to a farking event where the President is going to be. That's just farking stupid.
 
2009-08-11 7:43:49 PM  
If the dude has the necessary permits then he can bring the gun wherever he so chooses. Second Amendment is a biatch.
 
2009-08-11 7:45:59 PM  

KaponoFor3: If the dude has the necessary permits then he can bring the gun wherever he so chooses. Second Amendment is a biatch.


Yeah, but common sense HAS to come into play at some point. He has the right to bring his gun places, but he has the responsibility to not be a dumbass about it.
 
2009-08-11 7:48:02 PM  

KaponoFor3: If the dude has the necessary permits then he can bring the gun wherever he so chooses. Second Amendment is a biatch.


Not necessarily, there are places you cannot carry a firearm, and for good reasons. I'm fairly left, but not about the 2nd Amendment, that being said, if I was packing anywhere near the CIC, I would be surprised if my weapon wasn't taken away by some big guys in black suits. Kinda common sense......
 
2009-08-11 7:50:08 PM  

KaponoFor3: If the dude has the necessary permits then he can bring the gun wherever he so chooses. Second Amendment is a biatch.


Yes, and if he chooses to be an Attention Whore of the first magnitude at a Presidential event, he also chooses to get his entire life looked at by the Secret Service.
 
2009-08-11 7:51:54 PM  

KaponoFor3: If the dude has the necessary permits then he can bring the gun wherever he so chooses. Second Amendment is a biatch.


That doesn't answer the question in the least.
 
2009-08-11 7:52:39 PM  
This whole ordeal is farking staged.
 
2009-08-11 7:54:38 PM  

TheGreatZarquon: Yeah, but common sense HAS to come into play at some point. He has the right to bring his gun places, but he has the responsibility to not be a dumbass about it.


Sure, without a doubt. Was it smart of him to bring a gun to a Presidential event? Probably not. Was it his right to do so? Of course.

It's not illegal to be a dick or an idiot -- but being so opens you up to (deserved) ridicule.

Yoeman: Not necessarily, there are places you cannot carry a firearm, and for good reasons.


Some private events, I would imagine. Do you know if this guy get his gun taken from him by the Secret Service?
 
2009-08-11 7:55:28 PM  
I wonder if these guys understand the snake from the Gadsen flag is a symbol representing the importance of national unity. I'm guessing not.
 
2009-08-11 7:56:25 PM  

kronicfeld: That doesn't answer the question in the least.


How about: "Because it's my right to do so under the US Constitution"?

That one seems good to me.

TheGrayCat: Yes, and if he chooses to be an Attention Whore of the first magnitude at a Presidential event, he also chooses to get his entire life looked at by the Secret Service.


I think you'd have to be stupid to imagine that's not the case, but this guy wouldn't have anyone but himself to blame for it.

Fat and Nasty 86: This whole ordeal is farking staged.


False flag operation?
 
2009-08-11 7:58:13 PM  

KaponoFor3: How about: "Because it's my right to do so under the US Constitution"?

That one seems good to me.


So you're just here to be your usual pedantic self, eh?

If I stood up in the middle of the room during a press conference and yelled "MARMALADE DEFENESTRATION," would you be content with my answer to why I did it being "because it's my right to do so"? Probably not.
 
2009-08-11 7:59:35 PM  

KaponoFor3: Sure, without a doubt. Was it smart of him to bring a gun to a Presidential event? Probably not. Was it his right to do so? Of course.


The Secret Service might have a problem with this.
 
2009-08-11 8:00:05 PM  

KaponoFor3: TheGreatZarquon: Yeah, but common sense HAS to come into play at some point. He has the right to bring his gun places, but he has the responsibility to not be a dumbass about it.

Sure, without a doubt. Was it smart of him to bring a gun to a Presidential event? Probably not. Was it his right to do so? Of course.


That's one of the reasons why I love the Second Amendment. It's a good way of telling the responsible gun owners from the idiot gun owners.

A responsible gun owner would have thought, "You know, the President will be there, the Secret Service will be there, so bringing my gun probably isn't a great idea." An idiot gun owner would have thought, "It's my right, goddammit, I'll bring it with me and to hell with things like security measures, the Secret Service and common sense!"


/a liberal who supports the 2nd amendment?
//the devil, you say!
 
2009-08-11 8:00:30 PM  

TheGreatZarquon: Seriously, you have the right to bear arms, but don't bring them to a farking event where the President is going to be. That's just farking stupid.

Where does the 2nd amendment textually prohibit the bearing of arms around the president?
 
2009-08-11 8:00:59 PM  
I have to believe this guy was deeply disappointed that they neither arrested him or took the gun. I'm sure he was ready to have a WARBAGASM over the oppression he expected to face from the evil feds.
 
2009-08-11 8:01:31 PM  

BritneysSpeculum: Where does the 2nd amendment textually prohibit the bearing of arms around the president?


Where does it textually prohibit pointing a loaded weapon at a judge in a courtroom?
 
2009-08-11 8:02:01 PM  

kronicfeld: If I stood up in the middle of the room during a press conference and yelled "MARMALADE DEFENESTRATION," would you be content with my answer to why I did it being "because it's my right to do so"? Probably not.


I would join you. I'm all about MARMALADE DEFENESTRATION.
 
2009-08-11 8:02:52 PM  

kronicfeld: Where does it textually prohibit pointing a loaded weapon at a judge in a courtroom?


Okay, I take that back. Where does it textually prohibit a criminal defendant from bearing arms in a courtroom when he's on trial?
 
2009-08-11 8:03:14 PM  

Yoeman: KaponoFor3: If the dude has the necessary permits then he can bring the gun wherever he so chooses. Second Amendment is a biatch.

Not necessarily, there are places you cannot carry a firearm, and for good reasons. I'm fairly left, but not about the 2nd Amendment, that being said, if I was packing anywhere near the CIC, I would be surprised if my weapon wasn't taken away by some big guys in black suits. Kinda common sense......


Funny I dont remember that being a "except in certain locations" clause to the 2nd amendment?? Do you have a different copy?
 
2009-08-11 8:03:24 PM  

KaponoFor3: If the dude has the necessary permits then he can bring the gun wherever he so chooses.


And those who wish to ridicule him as an inarticulate douchebag who wants to play tough guy/rebel/patriot, but would probably pee his pants if he heard a shot fired in anger, are free to do so.

Everybody wins!
 
2009-08-11 8:04:05 PM  

BritneysSpeculum: TheGreatZarquon: Seriously, you have the right to bear arms, but don't bring them to a farking event where the President is going to be. That's just farking stupid.

Where does the 2nd amendment textually prohibit the bearing of arms around the president?


It doesn't say that anywhere in the 2nd Amendment. What I was inferring is that it's just not a good idea. The Secret Service isn't very forgiving about one man's interpretation of the 2nd Amendment; if you've got a gun and you're at a function where the President is a guest, they'll probably remove your gun. It's a sticky point, but in the end I suppose it's up to the people who are there to enforce the rules.
 
2009-08-11 8:04:16 PM  

kronicfeld: If I stood up in the middle of the room during a press conference and yelled "MARMALADE DEFENESTRATION," would you be content with my answer to why I did it being "because it's my right to do so"? Probably not.


I'd say you were an idiot for doing it, but I would also defend your right to do so -- just like this moron.
 
2009-08-11 8:06:12 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: The Secret Service might have a problem with this.


Did they end up talking to the guy or taking his gun?

kronicfeld: Okay, I take that back. Where does it textually prohibit a criminal defendant from bearing arms in a courtroom when he's on trial?


At the metal detectors as you enter the courthouse, duh.
 
2009-08-11 8:06:19 PM  

KaponoFor3: I'd say you were an idiot for doing it, but I would also defend your right to do so -- just like this moron.


I don't see anyone challenging his "right." I see someone asking him "why" he elected to exercise his right in the way he did. I understand if that's an exceedingly subtle, hard-to-ascertain nuance.
 
2009-08-11 8:06:54 PM  
If someone mentioned the word gun at a Bush event they would have been tackled and dragged into a waiting limo.

This guy is not exercising his 2nd Amendment Rights. He is exercising his rights to be an attention whoring asshat.
He has the right to walk down the streets of Harlem dressed in the sandwich board John McClane wore in Die Hard With a Vengeance as well.

Some things you just don't freaking do.

The Secret Service should have exercised their rights to thoroughly interrogate, strip and cavity search this cocksucker, all the while making sure he had his gun returned to him. Their job is to investigate all threats and secure the president. They would have been fully within their rights to do all of that.
 
2009-08-11 8:06:55 PM  

KaponoFor3: At the metal detectors as you enter the courthouse, duh.


I don't see a courthouse exception in the 2nd Amendment.
 
2009-08-11 8:09:26 PM  

kronicfeld: I don't see anyone challenging his "right."


Then why are you making a big deal out of this? Yes, this guy is an idiot, but he's within his rights to be an idiot.

kronicfeld: I see someone asking him "why" he elected to exercise his right in the way he did. I understand if that's an exceedingly subtle, hard-to-ascertain nuance.


If you could read, you'd see I addressed it above. He doesn't need a reason beyond its his right to do so -- also doesn't mean he's not stupid and shouldn't have instead exercised common sense.

Perhaps he was bringing it in hopes that it would get confiscated so he could become a victim and file a lawsuit challenging it? Who the hell knows, but in the end it doesn't really matter.
 
2009-08-11 8:10:01 PM  
Ewww...I watched the video. That guy has Bud Dwyer eyes.
 
2009-08-11 8:11:01 PM  
If this was a Muslim man at a Bush town hall protesting Iraq while holding a gun and a sign with a quote supporting violence against tyranny...how do you think that would have gone down?
 
2009-08-11 8:11:51 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: The Secret Service should have exercised their rights to thoroughly interrogate, strip and cavity search this cocksucker, all the while making sure he had his gun returned to him. Their job is to investigate all threats and secure the president. They would have been fully within their rights to do all of that.


This is true as well, they probably did I'd bet.

kronicfeld: I don't see a courthouse exception in the 2nd Amendment.


Well then you should either:

(a) review the laws in your state that allow for the courts to prevent weapons to enter the Courthouse or
(B) file suit.
 
2009-08-11 8:12:12 PM  
MARMALADE DEFENESTRATION
 
2009-08-11 8:12:55 PM  
Chris Matthews comes off as a lost member from the Seinfeld cast to me.
 
2009-08-11 8:13:06 PM  

KaponoFor3: Then why are you making a big deal out of this? Yes, this guy is an idiot, but he's within his rights to be an idiot.


We are well within our rights to call him on it, too.
 
2009-08-11 8:13:13 PM  

KaponoFor3: He doesn't need a reason beyond its his right to do so -- also doesn't mean he's not stupid and shouldn't have instead exercised common sense.


Are you done contradicting yourself for the night? Jesus tapdancing Christ.
 
2009-08-11 8:13:16 PM  
I really dont know why everyone is concerned, hell we should be able to do away with the Secret Service, After he is the Messiah, he can walk on water, jump tall buildings in a single bound and stop bullets with the power of his mind
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2009-08-11 8:14:57 PM  
This isn't a second amendment issue. It's all about a moron attention whore with zero common sense. Rights and privileges and common sense should all go hand in hand. If you're an asshole who can't tell what is and isn't appropriate then you're going to get what you deserve.
 
2009-08-11 8:17:17 PM  

chemical_angel: This isn't a second amendment issue. It's all about a moron attention whore with zero common sense. Rights and privileges and common sense should all go hand in hand. If you're an asshole who can't tell what is and isn't appropriate then you're going to get what you deserve.


Maybe he is just setting up his insanity defense.
 
2009-08-11 8:17:24 PM  
How stupid do you have to be to bring a gun to a Presidential event?
 
2009-08-11 8:17:29 PM  
Okay, I've thrown all my fruit preserves out the window, now what?
 
2009-08-11 8:17:46 PM  

kronicfeld: If I stood up in the middle of the room during a press conference and yelled "MARMALADE DEFENESTRATION," would you be content with my answer to why I did it being "because it's my right to do so"? Probably not.


I would proudly and loudly shout down your MARMALADE DEFENESTRATION with my rallying cry of MILK FORCE NINE!
 
2009-08-11 8:18:31 PM  
KaponoFor3

Are you stupid or what? Just because you have the right to carry a concealed weapon does NOT mean you have the right to carry it everywhere.

Wanna try? Pull that stunt on board an airplane...see if your "Second Amendment right" works there.

Don't be an ass.
 
2009-08-11 8:19:26 PM  
Ain't dis AMERICA?
 
2009-08-11 8:19:50 PM  
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2009-08-11 8:19:50 PM  
If you vote Republican, it means you agree with this bozo.
 
2009-08-11 8:20:12 PM  
The guy should have thrown a shoe at Obama.

It was cool to throw a shoe at a POTUS not too long ago.
 
2009-08-11 8:20:45 PM  
God damn, I never watch Matthews but he chewed that guy and spit him out.

C: "Well, why did you bring a gun to a Presidential event today?"

P: "That's not even a relevant question..."
 
2009-08-11 8:21:46 PM  
Just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean it's a good idea. And saying your reason for doing it is that "it's your Constitutional right" is not an answer. The right to do something is not a motivation for action.
 
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