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(BBC)   Was Stalin poisoned to avoid World War III?   ( news.bbc.co.uk) divider line
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2003-02-24 02:11:52 PM  
if he was poisoned, I think the chances are good that the reason was not to prevent war, but because Stalin was a bat shiat crazy murderer.
2003-02-24 02:24:39 PM  
"Answer hazy, try again."
2003-02-24 02:31:03 PM  
Wow, that was surprisingly uninteresting.
2003-02-24 02:38:38 PM  
And I have 100%, absolute, definite and conclusive evidence that God may not exist. Lets all waste our time, shall we?
2003-02-24 03:28:23 PM  
"Joel, when I die, can I be mummified and placed next to Stalin?"
2003-02-24 03:42:42 PM  
It would have been more like World War 2 1/2.
2003-02-24 04:23:16 PM  
Beria wanted him dead
2003-02-24 04:23:44 PM  
Who's buried in Stalin's tomb?
2003-02-24 04:25:28 PM  
2003-02-24 04:25:29 PM  
they were just stalin for time.
2003-02-24 04:26:56 PM  
2003-02-24 04:27:09 PM  
Red Alert Anyone?
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2003-02-24 04:27:41 PM  
That's great... I'm gonna go eat mayonaise.
2003-02-24 04:28:10 PM  
Oddly Enough - UK Reuters

What do you call a Frenchman advancing on Baghdad?
Sun Feb 23,11:23 PM ET

LONDON (Reuters) - What do you call a Frenchman advancing on Baghdad? Listeners to a BBC Radio show were denied that knowledge after politically-correct producers edited out the entire joke, The Times reports.

But they did leave in an anti-British joke, spurring the red-faced presenter to pen a letter to listeners apologising for the unpatriotic slant of his show.

"I am sorry for the unmeant, unpatriotic insult to so many lovely, young British women," Ned Sherrin, presenter of Radio Four's Loose Ends wrote in a letter published in The Times.

The apology followed the following gag: "What do you call a pretty girl in London? A tourist."

Sherrin, 72, said the joke had Gallic origins. "They left in the French joke about British women and left out the attempt at Frog-bashing," he explained.

The French have become the butt of numerous jokes in recent days by U.S. media and British tabloids angered at President Jacques Chirac's insistence that further diplomacy precede any war against Iraq.

In Britain, the attack has been spearheaded by the right-leaning Sun, which has dubbed Chirac "Le Worm" and accused him of cowardice.

"I was amazed, annoyed and piqued," said Sherrin. "I'm sure they felt we'd upset the sensitivities of our gallant allies, the French, but why should we be sensitive about this in this day and age?"

And he circumvented his producers by cracking his gags to The Times.

Question: What do you call a Frenchman advancing on Baghdad? Answer: A salesman.

Question: What do you call 20 French politicians face down in the Channel? Answer: A start.

Question: What is the difference between a road accident involving a hedgehog and a Frenchman? Answer: There are skidmarks before the hedgehog.

i just thought i'd share, i know, so what if it has nothign to do with the article....or maybe it does?
2003-02-24 04:28:18 PM  
"Who's buried in Stalin's tomb?"

The unknown soldier ? No, wait ...

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2003-02-24 04:29:09 PM  
"His pocketwatch and copy of Pravda were lying on the floor. The watch showed 6.30. That's when it must have happened to him." - In Russia you don't wind your watch, it runs off enery produced by your heartbeat. Your watch automatically stops at the time or your death.
2003-02-24 04:29:39 PM  
That Stalin was a real Stiffy Stifferson. I would have pranked him to death all day in my basement.

/new fark cliche
2003-02-24 04:30:57 PM  
I thought that in So\/i3t Russia, Stalin killed you.
2003-02-24 04:31:27 PM  
Nonsense. The Terror had him eliminated for obstructing his plans for total world domination. The poor guy didn't see it coming from one of his allies.
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2003-02-24 04:35:45 PM  
A pat on the back to Beria if he did do this. Not like the rest of the guys in the inner circle were saints or anything, but Just_Another_Arsehole is right, Stalin was definitely a bat-shiat crazy nogoodnik and who knows what nutso thing he would've done next.
2003-02-24 04:39:57 PM  
Stalin was really misunderstood. He built the highways and communications systems that Russia needed, and without him Russia would have remained a backward country forever.

/mixture of Hitler apologist and ironic humor
2003-02-24 04:41:01 PM  
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"It's not a TUMA!!!"
2003-02-24 04:42:05 PM  
Yeah, Beria wacked Stalin, so good for him. Of course Beria made Stalin look like Mother Theresa.

And HolyMackeral...albeit very funny, calling Stalin a nogoodnik is the understatement of the day.
2003-02-24 04:42:18 PM  
I seriously don't understand why this type of (alleged) thing doesn't happen MORE.

Why shouldn't we have covert groups from the CIA who assasinate global assholes? Why not nip world wars in the bud? Why not just plug a hole in some little napolianistic meglomaniac - why wait till years, dollars and American lives have been spent?

Quick, proactive diagnosis and aggressive treatment. The only way to combat a disease.
2003-02-24 04:42:22 PM  
If this involved anyone in the inner circle I think the projectionist did it. Right after his wife hangs herself in the closet.
2003-02-24 04:42:24 PM  

If it was a Soviet-made watch it very likely stopped working when it hit the ground.

But it is more likely swiss, so you got a point.
2003-02-24 04:43:43 PM  
"Without him Russia would have remained a backward country forever."

And the problem with that would have been?....
2003-02-24 04:44:58 PM  
Camarugala: Actually, it still is a backward country. Therein lies the irony.
2003-02-24 04:48:02 PM  
Note: Beria was soon executed by Khrushchev
2003-02-24 04:51:17 PM  
No, it was Col. Mustard in the kitchen with the pipe!
2003-02-24 04:51:27 PM  
Kpar90...I'm hip to your irony...that country can barely grow a flippin' potato for chrissakes.
2003-02-24 04:51:42 PM  
I'm sure it was all GWB's fault.
2003-02-24 04:52:33 PM  
Silly historian, it wasn't the guard, it was the butler!
2003-02-24 04:55:39 PM  
I'm glad that the Soviet Regime continued after Stalin's death. Otherwise, Rocky IV never would have been made.

2003-02-24 04:55:50 PM  
Where are the French and Germans demanding that Stalin be given more time to work out a peaceful solution avoiding a war? Opps, wrong dictator. They missed out on the chance to appease this one.

I am sure they will make up for it by defending and supporting another crazed dictator.
2003-02-24 04:56:21 PM  
If it was a Soviet-made watch it very likely stopped working when it hit the ground.

Which represents the surprising dichotomy of Russion hardware. We were getting the pants beat off us in the space race by a country that couldn't build a single decent clock radio.
2003-02-24 04:56:24 PM  
"the babysitter's here!"
"it better not be Joseph Stalin!"
2003-02-24 04:56:28 PM  
The problem with the article is that in order to buy this theory, you have to believe that Stalin is actually dead.
2003-02-24 04:57:53 PM  
Take that, Commie!

If Stalin was murdered by his closest confidants, it was because they feared for their own lives. Stalin had his entire command staff shot before, and with the prospect of war they probably feared he'd do the same thing, purge the officer corps and politburo of political rivals or potential threats.
2003-02-24 04:58:31 PM  
02-24-03 04:42:22 PM Camarugala
"If this involved anyone in the inner circle I think the projectionist did it. Right after his wife hangs herself in the closet."

Yeah, great film.
However, Beria was more likely to hit little children than he would be to get that sexy wife (Lolita Davidovich) drunk and hit her.
2003-02-24 05:03:43 PM  
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Lolita Davidovich.
The sexy wife in THE INNER CIRCLE.
2003-02-24 05:07:32 PM  
Why are there trees lining the streets of Paris?

So the German soldiers can march in the shade.
2003-02-24 05:07:45 PM  
You hit it on the head. Stalin believed that the best way to make your enemies nervous was to kill your friends. You can bet cash money that someone from the inner cicle was in on the plot (if there was one).
2003-02-24 05:08:48 PM  
But he's ok, right? RIGHT?!?!?!
2003-02-24 05:10:40 PM  
I liked this article the first time I read it...

...when it was called Triumph
2003-02-24 05:10:47 PM  
the usa assassinated him
2003-02-24 05:14:37 PM  
02-24-03 04:27:09 PM

Red Alert Anyone?

Speaking of which, is CnC: Generals any good? I need to know if I should keep looking for a hax0red copy.
2003-02-24 05:15:50 PM  
I desire such a watch...
2003-02-24 05:17:33 PM  
The Jews did it.

(just kidding, they didn't)

but, it should be noted that in the weeks before his death, Stalin did snap on Israel, which could be buildup to expelling Jews from Moscow.

2003-02-24 05:20:51 PM  
Quick1 -- Judging from posts on comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic, not really -- it's a non-innovative, cheating, resource-intensive RTS with lousy unit AI and no speed controls. Given Westwood's history of not innovating, this is not terribly surprising.
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