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2009-03-26 6:33:49 PM  
Pork? (new window)
 
2009-03-26 6:34:20 PM  

krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.


Yes, when Boehner called it a budget he was indeed way off base, as made clear by his immediate backpedaling.

His statement is so chock full of retard it's amazing you have wasted whatever credibility you might have once had on attempting to defend it. He clearly implied it was a budget and that somehow presenting it now made Obama wrong two days ago when he said they had not presented anything yet. His instant hypocritical backpedaling saying "blueprint" after his "In your face Obama! Here's our budget" start is just pure comedy.

But please, continue to defend the indefensible with your utter misunderstanding of simple concepts like context.
 
2009-03-26 6:34:28 PM  
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2009-03-26 6:34:39 PM  

Obdicut: krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.

So he lied when he said "here it is, Mr. President".


Sure, fine, he's a liar and a doodyhead. One might claim that he misspoke, but we'll go with "liar" if that makes you happy. That doesn't change what the facts are surrounding this document and the future document.
 
2009-03-26 6:34:57 PM  

SeismicJizzer: See you just don't get it, when he said "here it is Mr. President" he meant "here it is Mr. President, but only read it next week."

Context shouldn't be ignored


Maybe it's supposed to go:

Obama: Where's your budget?
Boehner: Here it is!
Obama: Where?
Boehner: Next week!

Get it? It's camp! The republicans have embraced their ridiculousness, and are camping it up. I think it's adorable.
 
2009-03-26 6:35:06 PM  

Hender: RevMercutio: Not only are you the first, but I don't anticipate seeing a better one.

Well, like my quick and dirty blank, it matches the tone of the "blueprint."


unlike the "blueprint", your blank is actually useful.
 
2009-03-26 6:35:21 PM  

IXI Jim IXI: Adjective Bird Whiskey: I don't trust white people or their budgets.

Being part Native American, I've learned to distrust such blanket statements...


Small pox?
 
2009-03-26 6:35:33 PM  

krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.


Thanks man. This thread wouldn't be complete without someone like you. Well done, and as full of fail as Boehner himself.
 
2009-03-26 6:35:44 PM  

krelborne:
Man, I'm facepalming hard.

"Two nights ago the president said, 'We haven't seen a budget yet out of Republicans.' Well, it's just not true because -- Here it is, Mr. President," said House Minority leader Rep. John Boehner, as he held up a booklet that he said was a "blueprint for where we're going."

[...]


Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.


Boehner is the one who called it a budget, effectively. Yes, he admitted it was only a blueprint, because he had to (and it's really not even that). But Boehner said "here it is, Mr. President." He equated his "blueprint" with a budget. It went like this:
Prez: The GOP doesn't have a budget.
GOP: That's a lie! We have this! *waves blueprint*

How do you not get that?
 
2009-03-26 6:35:55 PM  

Hender:
Have a fast and dirty blank, then.


Thanks!

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Go with the flow
It is said
That if you can't groove to this
Then you probably are dead
 
2009-03-26 6:36:51 PM  

krelborne: Obdicut: krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.

So he lied when he said "here it is, Mr. President".

Sure, fine, he's a liar and a doodyhead. One might claim that he misspoke, but we'll go with "liar" if that makes you happy.


How is it not a lie? Why must we still excuse a lack of honesty? Is it because he's a Republican?
 
2009-03-26 6:37:56 PM  

Corvus: Also when people say it is "18 pages" that is VERY generous. It has a cover sheet and many pages are just a title and a short paragraph and all the rest of the pages are half graphics. Then out of that most of it is just complain about Democrats and Obama.


And tomorrow they will still have no clue they are the laughing stock of the country.
 
2009-03-26 6:38:05 PM  

krelborne: Sure, fine, he's a liar and a doodyhead. One might claim that he misspoke, but we'll go with "liar" if that makes you happy. That doesn't change what the facts are surrounding this document and the future document.


The facts are that Obama asked the republicans to produce a budget, or rather, criticized them for not having done so.

Boehner then announced that it wasn't true they didn't have a budget-- because here one was!

Then it turned out it wasn't a budget.

Then he said there would be a budget next week.

When you say "Well, it's just not true because -- Here it is, Mr. President," you should probably not be lying yourself. It kind of looks weird.
 
2009-03-26 6:38:21 PM  
Thank god the Republicans aren't in the White House. Thank god McCain didn't win. Holy lord. What an embarrassment this "budget" is. What a joke.

/awesome thread, I love you Fark
 
2009-03-26 6:38:54 PM  

krelborne: That doesn't change what the facts are surrounding this document and the future document.


Yes, and those facts are that the document is not a budget. Boehner was making a really weak lie when he did his "here it is" line. The GOP still has not presented a budget. The "future document" by nature of its non-existence is not a budget (maybe it will be one day, but here in present reality, it is not). The GOP despite it's clear lying that it now has presented a budget, has not actually presented a budget or anything even close to resembling one. Glad we can agree to recognize these basic facts.

Heck, that document isn't even the blueprint he claims it to be. It's at best a talking point memo with circles.
 
2009-03-26 6:39:25 PM  

Obdicut: Get it? It's camp! The republicans have embraced their ridiculousness, and are camping it up. I think it's adorable.


heh well we got a great thread out of it so all wasn't lost.
 
2009-03-26 6:41:45 PM  
Republicans are very good at complaining they are just not good at governing.
 
2009-03-26 6:42:32 PM  

krelborne: Obdicut: krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.

So he lied when he said "here it is, Mr. President".

Sure, fine, he's a liar and a doodyhead. One might claim that he misspoke, but we'll go with "liar" if that makes you happy. That doesn't change what the facts are surrounding this document and the future document.


The reason people are mocking him, this document, and the Republicans in general is that they were slated as the party of no ideas, to which they responded with a document that contains exactly no ideas. They staged a media event to present their 'plan' as a rebuttal. Their plan is a perfect example of why they're called the party of no ideas. That's the context, and that's why we're having fun mocking it.

If/when they actually present a budget plan that we can review that contains numbers and projections we'll analyze that for it's objective worth. Until then, they are performing theater just like the caricatures they've been described as.
 
2009-03-26 6:42:32 PM  
This thread is everything that is great about fark all at once.

Some of you farkers are really funny.
 
2009-03-26 6:43:20 PM  

RevMercutio: krelborne: Obdicut: krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.

So he lied when he said "here it is, Mr. President".

Sure, fine, he's a liar and a doodyhead. One might claim that he misspoke, but we'll go with "liar" if that makes you happy.

How is it not a lie? Why must we still excuse a lack of honesty? Is it because he's a Republican?


Yes, that's it. It's because he's a Republican. It's because I suck Boehner's cock. Mmmmmm, delicious. I must have voted for Bush twice and wrote him in a third time, I'm soooooo very right wing.

Or it could be that it's because it's one statement out of many, and any reasonable person could determine from his statements that it was really not the full budget and he knew that the budget details would be out next week. Key word being "reasonable".
 
2009-03-26 6:45:25 PM  
This thread is pure win. I love how even the Republicans are so ashamed of this that only a couple of them came in, and none of the big Repub defenders dared say anything.
 
2009-03-26 6:45:49 PM  
If you're going to put forward a budget proposal then maybe you should, y'know, put forward a budget proposal.
 
2009-03-26 6:47:11 PM  

RevMercutio:
Not unlike John McCain's secret plan to capture bin Laden, eh?


That's exactly what it is.

Once they reveal their budget plan, they are screwed. It's gonna be more of the same.

Tax cuts for the wealthy, drilling in ANWR, spending cuts for everything except the military, more restrictions on medical malpractice lawsuits, continued bank bailouts under the guise of homebuyer/homeowner incentives. (In short, they will subsidize refis and new home purchases in order to get money to the banks - that way they don't have to call them bailouts.)

And that's it.
 
2009-03-26 6:47:11 PM  

GAT_00: This thread is pure win. I love how even the Republicans are so ashamed of this that only a couple of them came in, and none of the big Repub defenders dared say anything.


there's nothing to defend. The Republicans themselves didn't put forward anything at all. just a slick advertising package with little detail and a lot of flashy ads.
 
2009-03-26 6:47:14 PM  
We are here in Washington, D.C. to address problems. So I've set this goal for the country. We want 5.5 million more homeowners by 2010 -- million more minority homeowners by 2010. (Applause.) Five-and-a-half million families by 2010 will own a home. That is our goal. It is a realistic goal.

Bush 2002 - http://www.hud.gov/news/speeches/presremarks.cfm

If Republicans think CRA was so bad how come they don't remember this goal from the "ownership society".
 
2009-03-26 6:47:19 PM  
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2009-03-26 6:48:25 PM  
"There's one more picture of a windmill than there are charts of numbers. And there's exactly one picture of a windmill." - Robert Gibbs
 
2009-03-26 6:48:46 PM  

krelborne: Or it could be that it's because it's one statement out of many, and any reasonable person could determine from his statements that it was really not the full budget and he knew that the budget details would be out next week. Key word being "reasonable".


You're completely missing the point of our humor. The fact that you're so adamantly defending him is only mildly amusing, but it's this fictionalized exchange we find so deliciously humorous:

Boehner: "The President said two days ago that he hadn't seen our budget, well, here it is!"

*pulls thin sheet of paper from behind his back, holds it up proudly*

*crickets*

Press Corps: "Where is it? Behind that pamphlet?"

Boehner: "No no, the budget's still coming. This is the outline of the budget!"

Press Corps: "So what's in it?"

Boehner: "Not much, you'll just have to wait until next week. It's going to be SO MUCH BETTER than Obama's budget!"
 
2009-03-26 6:49:09 PM  

Weaver95: there's nothing to defend. The Republicans themselves didn't put forward anything at all. just a slick advertising package with little detail and a lot of flashy ads.


When does having nothing to defend ever stop them?
 
2009-03-26 6:49:51 PM  
 
2009-03-26 6:50:28 PM  
I've never done a national budget, however, a lot of Republicans have been there a long time and they have.

How hard would it have been to take the Obama budget, cross this out, add this in, go back to some old ones and add some of your own pork etc... throw it in excel and call it a real blueprint with numbers and some semblance of a plan.

Line 3302: $14 million for green housing improvement
GOP: cut that to 4

Line 3303: $24 million for budget for Head Start
GOP: make that $26 million.

"our budget saved 8 million..."

/wipe hands on pants, repeat for every line in the budget.
 
2009-03-26 6:50:44 PM  
Weaver95: there's nothing to defend. The Republicans themselves didn't put forward anything at all. just a slick advertising package with little detail and a lot of flashy ads.

The Repub defenders on here will defend anything a Repub does. That leads me to believe that even they are embarrassed by this abortion of a plan.
 
2009-03-26 6:50:46 PM  
maybe they should ask that 13 year old what a conservative would do.
 
2009-03-26 6:51:37 PM  

toonz: maybe they should ask that 13 year old what a conservative would do.


that kid was freaky.
 
2009-03-26 6:51:50 PM  
Obama is crazy. Sinking three trillion dollars into the economy is just going to cause inflation. We should cut three trillion dollars in taxes.

Because if rich people have an extra three trillion, they will totally pay for food and health care for poor people.

Why don't these socialists realize that?
 
2009-03-26 6:51:58 PM  

krelborne: RevMercutio: krelborne: Obdicut: krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.

So he lied when he said "here it is, Mr. President".

Sure, fine, he's a liar and a doodyhead. One might claim that he misspoke, but we'll go with "liar" if that makes you happy.

How is it not a lie? Why must we still excuse a lack of honesty? Is it because he's a Republican?

Yes, that's it. It's because he's a Republican. It's because I suck Boehner's cock. Mmmmmm, delicious. I must have voted for Bush twice and wrote him in a third time, I'm soooooo very right wing.

Or it could be that it's because it's one statement out of many, and any reasonable person could determine from his statements that it was really not the full budget and he knew that the budget details would be out next week. Key word being "reasonable".


The reason we shouldn't give Boehner a break is because he actually accused Obama of saying something untrue, which something was manifestly true. Had Boehner not said "that's not true," regarding Obama's statement that the Republicans had failed to produce their own budget, then maybe we could give him a break. But since he decided to be a dick about it, why should we give him the benefit of the doubt?

The "that's not true" carries with it the necessary implication that what he was producing was a budget. That's the essential contradiction in your argument. You'd see that if you weren't a partisan hack.
 
2009-03-26 6:52:31 PM  

IXI Jim IXI: Here's the kind of logic Boehner's using...

"Two nights ago the president said, 'We haven't seen a budget yet out of Republicans.' Well, it's just not true because -- Here it is, Mr. President,"


Exactly. What they should have been then, they'll pretend to be now.
 
2009-03-26 6:52:57 PM  
I lost it when I got to the page with the picture of money on it.

I have no idea why. Something about that in the context of their rah-rah "plan" is just hilarious to me.
 
2009-03-26 6:55:19 PM  
I don't think the Republicans want to have a real conversation about the budget. What they should do is have a closed door sit down meeting with EVERY Republican member of congress and they all agree to completely drop all pork barrel spending. Then dare the Democrats to do the same.

*sigh*

But they won't do it. They'll keep spending money and running their protection rackets.
 
2009-03-26 6:55:53 PM  
I just wanted to post something so I can say was a part of this thread.

Im laughing so hard snot came out my nose.
 
2009-03-26 6:56:36 PM  

Antonio_Talibanderas: Tax cuts for the wealthy, drilling in ANWR, spending cuts for everything except the military, more restrictions on medical malpractice lawsuits, continued bank bailouts under the guise of homebuyer/homeowner incentives. (In short, they will subsidize refis and new home purchases in order to get money to the banks - that way they don't have to call them bailouts.)

And that's it.


I hate to tell you, but the Democrats aren't much except "the opposite of that." Nothing in Obama's budget is a "new idea" it is the same ideas they haven't had a turn to try and pass (and for that matter the stimulus bill). They won, they get to boost their pet projects. That is how it works.

It isn't like there is anything revolutionary going on here. Just the other guys are saying "no, do the opposite" than we had the last few years.

Seriously, what was the last really original idea in American politics? Possibly "Contract with America" but that was still more marketing and packaging. Social Security? Louisiana Purchase? Emancipation Proclamation? (that last one wasn't really an original idea either, it had been around for decades).

Nothing goes from "oh damn do I have a great idea" to law in anything less than a decade or two in the US. It is just a matter of who gets first dibs on making those laws, funding those projects and saying "all the other guys do is biatch and trot out the same shiat."

/PATRIOT ACT?
 
2009-03-26 6:56:40 PM  

GAT_00: That leads me to believe that even they are embarrassed by this abortion of a plan.


They're probably waiting to get their opinion from Fox News or Limbaugh or whoever programs them.
 
2009-03-26 6:57:42 PM  

Weaver95: If you're going to put forward a budget proposal then maybe you should, y'know, put forward a budget proposal.


A bunch of posts ago the Weaver95 said, 'If you're going to put forward a budget proposal then maybe you should, y'know, put forward a budget proposal.' Well, it's just not true because -- Here it is, Mr. Weaver95:

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It's a blueprint for where we're going.
 
2009-03-26 6:58:20 PM  
from Politico: (new window)

"In his egocentric rush to get on camera, Mike Pence threw the rest of the Conference under the bus, specifically Paul Ryan, whose staff has been working night and day for weeks to develop a substantive budget plan," said a GOP aide heavily involved in budget strategy.

"I hope his camera time was gratifying enough to justify erasing the weeks of hard work by dozens of Republicans to put forth serious ideas," the person added.


and

Cantor and Ryan were reportedly "embarrassed" by the document -- believing it was better to absorb a week of hits from Democrats than to be slammed for failing to produce a thoughtful and detailed alternative.

The goal, aides say, was to make Obama's team eat their words by producing a "killer" alternative with far less spending and greater tax cuts.


Good luck with that boys
 
2009-03-26 6:59:00 PM  

Corvus: Stupid Democrats coming up with all these health care plans that cost money. They should just say it already exists instead and then it's all free!


Sad thing is, they already do. "We already have universal health care: Emergency rooms cannot turn anyone away!" is their mantra.
 
2009-03-26 6:59:14 PM  
I'm an MPA student and if I turned this in as my work I would expect to fail.
 
2009-03-26 6:59:40 PM  

Weaver95: GAT_00: This thread is pure win. I love how even the Republicans are so ashamed of this that only a couple of them came in, and none of the big Repub defenders dared say anything.

there's nothing to defend. The Republicans themselves didn't put forward anything at all. just a slick advertising package with little detail and a lot of flashy ads.


If it were slick marketing, we'd have

REPUBLIBUDGETTM, now with miracle tax cut XK9*!

*Some studies suggest that a budget rich in tax cuts may reduce the risk of some kinds of recession.
For external use only. Void where prohibited. If recession asks more than 24 months, consult an economist.
 
2009-03-26 7:00:18 PM  
Has anyone pointed out that everyone pictured in the PDF is a white person with the possible exception of the homeless bum sleeping in the street?
 
2009-03-26 7:01:01 PM  

Mosey: I hate to tell you, but the Democrats aren't much except "the opposite of that." Nothing in Obama's budget is a "new idea" it is the same ideas they haven't had a turn to try and pass (and for that matter the stimulus bill). They won, they get to boost their pet projects. That is how it works.


Democrats have had full control of government for 2 years since 1980. They haven't really had a chance to implement their ideas. So the complaint that these aren't new is rather silly.
 
2009-03-26 7:01:36 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Has anyone pointed out that everyone pictured in the PDF is a white person with the possible exception of the homeless bum sleeping in the street?


You're a racist, and your comment is yet another pristine example of the systematic oppression of the white male, America's number one minority.
 
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