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2009-03-26 6:13:59 PM  
Why are all the Fark Independents hiding in other threads?
 
2009-03-26 6:15:38 PM  

krelborne: Seriously, ignoring context is one of the oldest tricks in the book.


I'll outline the context for you since you seem to have a blind spot.

Context:

"Two nights ago, the president said we haven't seen a budget yet of the Republicans," said House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio)."

Somebody is ignoring context here. But it's not who you think it is.
 
2009-03-26 6:15:43 PM  

Lord_Baull: The lack of FARK IndependentsTM here rivals that of thread about the republican state senator that mocked the retarded kid's email. Well, discounting the "teleprompter" and "you took Boerner's 'here's my budget' statement out of context" idiots, of course.

Raise your hand if you're surprised by this.


If I would've seen this I wouldn't have posted my little question.
 
2009-03-26 6:15:55 PM  

Corvus: Also when people say it is "18 pages" that is VERY generous. It has a cover sheet and many pages are just a title and a short paragraph and all the rest of the pages are half graphics. Then out of that most of it is just complain about Democrats and Obama.


I have a word doc open where I pasted the text and have been cutting out anything that is directly negative toward the Democrats.

It's leaving a lot of very short phrases about what the Republicans actually want to do. And those phrases repeat a lot.

If I hadn't lost interest and quit already, I'd say it's probably more like three 12-point text pages of real content once you nix the biatching and repetition.
 
2009-03-26 6:16:08 PM  

PascalsGhost: krelborne: Obdicut: krelborne: So not only are you ignoring what Boehner said

Speaking of ignoring what Boehner said:

"Two nights ago, the president said we haven't seen a budget yet of the Republicans," said House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio). "Well, it's not true, because here it is Mr. President."

I already addressed this. You might as well call "no backsies" it's so childish. "Oops, Boenher once referred to the blueprint without saying that it was only the blueprint".

Seriously, ignoring context is one of the oldest tricks in the book.

LOL, again, I feel bad you are this much of a sheep. Its honestly all the right has left. I mean, if you can't man up and laugh at this one and say "Man, this was politically a disaster", you are one lost dude.


MUST...DEFEND...JOHN...BOENHER..AGAINST...LIBRUL...REALITY!!!

Kill yourself.


If the voice of reason sounds like a partisan sheep to you, perhaps you need to take a break from politics for a while. Jackass.
 
2009-03-26 6:16:42 PM  

h8_u_2: Why are all the Fark Independents hiding in other threads?


Some things are just too damn hard to troll.
 
2009-03-26 6:17:15 PM  

h8_u_2: Why are all the Fark Independents hiding in other threads?


Because they aren't the Republican shills you make them out to be and this really is a stupid move by the Republicans to act like they have their shiat together when they are really just stalling?
 
2009-03-26 6:17:26 PM  

h8_u_2: Why are all the Fark Independents hiding in other threads?


H8_u_2 claims he hasn't seen any of the Fark Independents.

John Boehner holds up a can of Beef-a-Roni and says "here they are!"

I guess we'll have to wait until next week.
 
2009-03-26 6:17:35 PM  
Blueprint?!?!?!!? bwhahahahha. Wow. That is pathetic.

A bucket of Reagan's entrails would be more of a blue print than that fluff.


/and this thread is hilarious
 
2009-03-26 6:17:35 PM  
The table of contents for the President's budget:

* President's Message (4 pages, 73 KB)

* Inheriting a Legacy of Misplaced Priorities (12 pages, 163 KB)
* Jumpstarting the Economy and Investing for the Future (26 pages, 239 KB)
* Conclusion (2 pages, 45 KB)

* Department of Agriculture (6 pages, 174 KB)
* Department of Commerce (2 pages, 99 KB)
* Department of Defense (4 pages, 86 KB)
* National Intelligence Program (2 pages, 75 KB)
* Department of Education (4 pages, 109 KB)
* Department of Energy (4 pages, 80 KB)
* Department of Health and Human Services (4 pages, 108 KB)
* Department of Homeland Security (2 pages, 78 KB)
* Department of Housing and Urban Development (4 pages, 89 KB)
* Department of the Interior (4 pages, 96 KB)
* Department of Justice (2 pages, 210 KB)
* Department of Labor (4 pages, 98 KB)
* Department of State and Other International Programs (4 pages, 134 KB)
* Department of Transportation (2 pages, 87 KB)
* Department of the Treasury (2 pages, 72 KB)
* Department of Veterans Affairs (2 pages, 111 KB)
* Corps of Engineers - Civil Works (2 pages, 98 KB)
* Environmental Protection Agency (4 pages, 91 KB)
* National Aeronautics and Space Administration (2 pages, 88 KB)
* National Science Foundation (2 pages, 80 KB)
* Small Business Administration (2 pages, 92 KB)
* Social Security Administration (2 pages, 72 KB)
* Corporation for National Community Service (2 pages, 78 KB)

* Summary Tables (22 pages, 138 KB)

* Presentation and Technical Changes (7 pages, 44 KB)


64 pages of actual budget, 42 pages of "I didn't do it," 24 pages of summaries and conclusions, 7 pages of nothing.

That's about $62,500,000,000 per page. Statistically indistinguishable from the Republicans'.
 
2009-03-26 6:18:07 PM  
h8_u_2 2009-03-26 06:15:43 PM
If I would've seen this I wouldn't have posted my little question.

Your question remains valid. Perhaps Krelborne can explain it to you.

/context
 
2009-03-26 6:18:15 PM  
People:

This is what you get when you convince yourself that PR is equivalent (or superior) to policy.

GOP: The all-PR party. It's PR all the way down!
 
2009-03-26 6:19:16 PM  

satanorsanta: In case you didn't read the original pdf here are some real gems


As brilliant as you Farkers are, nothing is as funny as the original.
 
2009-03-26 6:19:29 PM  
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2009-03-26 6:19:30 PM  

gallo caldo: Statistically indistinguishable from the Republicans


Keep the faith!
 
2009-03-26 6:19:43 PM  
This turned out to be an exceptionally bad move for the GOP, because it called attention to how unrealistic their call for "fiscal responsibility" really is in this economic climate.

Nice one, GOP. Thanks.
 
2009-03-26 6:19:59 PM  
krelborne 2009-03-26 06:16:08 PM
If the voice of reason sounds like a partisan sheep to you, perhaps you need to take a break from politics for a while. Jackass.

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2009-03-26 6:20:00 PM  

h8_u_2: Why are all the Fark Independents hiding in other threads?


There really isn't any way to defend this thing.

There really, really isn't.
 
2009-03-26 6:20:25 PM  

gallo caldo: That's about $62,500,000,000 per page. Statistically indistinguishable from the Republicans'.


The Republicans haven't submitted a budget yet, so what do you mean by "indistinguishable from the Republicans'? The Republican's what?
 
2009-03-26 6:20:29 PM  
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2009-03-26 6:20:29 PM  

Mosey: h8_u_2: Why are all the Fark Independents hiding in other threads?

Because they aren't the Republican shills you make them out to be


I'm not so sure.

I'm going with the comment above yours, some things are too hard to troll.
 
2009-03-26 6:20:32 PM  
Time to go...UBER MEME!

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2009-03-26 6:20:33 PM  

Obdicut: krelborne: I already addressed this. You might as well call "no backsies" it's so childish. "Oops, Boenher once referred to the blueprint without saying that it was only the blueprint".

Did Obama say, "We haven't seen a budget blueprint yet of the Republicans?"

No. He said that he hadn't seen a budget.

So Boehner is lying when he says "Here it is, Mr. President". Or he's really, really, really stupid.

Is there anything about that you find untrue or illogical?


More than who said what, is the content of this 18 page spin... There is not one new idea in this booklet of fail. The Repugnant-cons are not just the party of no, but truly the party of no ideas... Morons!
 
2009-03-26 6:21:18 PM  

gallo caldo: 64 pages of actual budget, 42 pages of "I didn't do it," 24 pages of summaries and conclusions, 7 pages of nothing.

That's about $62,500,000,000 per page. Statistically indistinguishable from the Republicans'.


And yes his has numbers and proposals, unlike the Republicans'!
 
2009-03-26 6:21:28 PM  

krelborne:

If the voice of reason sounds like a partisan sheep to you, perhaps you need to take a break from politics for a while. Jackass.


LOL, dude, your reasoning is hampered by Boenher's dick.
 
2009-03-26 6:22:38 PM  

Lord_Baull: The lack of FARK IndependentsTM here rivals that of thread about the republican state senator that mocked the retarded kid's email. Well, discounting the "teleprompter" and "you took Boerner's 'here's my budget' statement out of context" idiots, of course.

Raise your hand if you're surprised by this.


No, they skipped the "innocent people in Gitmo" thread as well. Cowards.
 
2009-03-26 6:23:28 PM  

gallo caldo: 64 pages of actual budget, 42 pages of "I didn't do it," 24 pages of summaries and conclusions, 7 pages of nothing.


This may be true, but it doesn't mean the GOP "blueprint" isn't laughable. I am not really sure what they thought they were gaining. Nearly every story in the press is about how part's Obama's own party is changing, re-writing, disagreeing with and screaming about the budget. The rest of the stories are about how friggen huge it is and the Democrats did actually control Congress the last to years so they can't say "this isn't our fault."

In other words, the Obama budget was getting enough negative press and push back based on it's own weight. This "blueprint" takes all the focus off that and on to how bad it is.

It is like the guy you hate at school is drunk and throwing up in the corner and to try and make him look worse you pee your pants in the other corner.
 
2009-03-26 6:24:29 PM  
B..b..but, teleprompter!!
 
2009-03-26 6:24:43 PM  

krelborne: If the voice of reason sounds like a partisan sheep to you, perhaps you need to take a break from politics for a while. Jackass.


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2009-03-26 6:24:55 PM  
Epic thread.

I should not be able to read a 'budget' during a smoke break.

/Not that I smoke.
//Anymore.
///OK, slashies done.
 
2009-03-26 6:25:17 PM  
Hender

Ce n'est un pas modele.

clapclapclapclapclap

awesome job from all you guise.
 
2009-03-26 6:25:40 PM  

WaltzingMathilda: krelborne: What is it about the words "blueprint" and "wait until next week" that you find so hard to understand?

I'll tell you this much ... he said "wait until next week" because he doesn't have a farking clue what the answer to the question is.


Remember when, with MUCHO bravado, Kevin Federline put out a rap album? Remember how it was universally mocked? And remember how - in response - he claimed it was meant as a joke and his **REAL** album was gonna 'blow everyone away'...?

....But then there was no REAL album...?

It's like that.
 
2009-03-26 6:26:18 PM  
Ok, that pdf someone linked above is tragic.

There just can be no way a nationally recognized party with the resources they have thought this was a good layout and idea.

I hope they are ready for a week of independents, Democrats, and even some Republicans lambasting them for such a transparent attempt at "see, we aren't the party of no, so there!"
 
2009-03-26 6:26:36 PM  

God's Hubris: B..b..but, teleprompter!!



I don't think you're allowed under copyright laws to copy and paste the whole platform like that without attribution.
 
2009-03-26 6:27:15 PM  

krelborne: If the voice of reason sounds like a partisan sheep to you, perhaps you need to take a break from politics for a while. Jackass.


You aren't a voice of reason. You are repeatedly bleating about "context" when all the context is right there. The Republicans attempted to hold this up as equal to the President's budget in moral force and intellectual crunch. They failed. And now you're butthurt about it because your team is lacking in intellectual heft and anything remotely resembling reasonable policy prescriptions for the next decade. Get the fark over it.
 
2009-03-26 6:27:41 PM  

RainDawg: krelborne: Seriously, ignoring context is one of the oldest tricks in the book.

I'll outline the context for you since you seem to have a blind spot.

Context:

"Two nights ago, the president said we haven't seen a budget yet of the Republicans," said House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio)."

Somebody is ignoring context here. But it's not who you think it is.


Man, I'm facepalming hard.

"Two nights ago the president said, 'We haven't seen a budget yet out of Republicans.' Well, it's just not true because -- Here it is, Mr. President," said House Minority leader Rep. John Boehner, as he held up a booklet that he said was a "blueprint for where we're going."

[...]

Asked where the cuts would be coming from, Boehner said, "We'll wait and see next week."


House GOP offers budget blueprint but scant detail
Republicans said more details will be out next week as the party offers an alternative promising spending amounts, revenue levels and the size of the budget deficit in a more traditional format.

House Republicans today outlined how they would write the federal budget if they controlled Congress

Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.
 
2009-03-26 6:27:48 PM  

DeadZone: Time to go...UBER MEME!


Hyper-meme!

I'm reaching, though.

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2009-03-26 6:28:01 PM  
Antonio_Talibanderas 2009-03-26 06:25:40 PM
Remember when, with MUCHO bravado, Kevin Federline put out a rap album? Remember how it was universally mocked? And remember how - in response - he claimed it was meant as a joke and his **REAL** album was gonna 'blow everyone away'....But then there was no REAL album...?

It's like that.



GOP: The Kevin Federline of Politics



Now that's a tshirt I would pay for.
 
2009-03-26 6:29:08 PM  

krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.


So he lied when he said "here it is, Mr. President".
 
2009-03-26 6:29:49 PM  
Karma Curmudgeon 2009-03-26 06:26:36 PM
God's Hubris: B..b..but, teleprompter!!

I don't think you're allowed under copyright laws to copy and paste the whole platform like that without attribution.


My mistake.
B..b..but, teleprompter!!®
 
2009-03-26 6:30:32 PM  
Three puny circles is a budget? I think we should have something like this:
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2009-03-26 6:31:22 PM  

Snarfangel: Three puny circles is a budget? I think we should have something like this:


Dude, that's against the teachings in the Bible!
 
2009-03-26 6:31:25 PM  
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2009-03-26 6:31:48 PM  

krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.


We're not--it's just the way Boehner delivered his speech that it made it sound like he did.
 
2009-03-26 6:31:49 PM  

krelborne: ...Man, I'm facepalming hard...


Good, saves the rest of us the trouble of slapping you ourselves
 
2009-03-26 6:32:29 PM  
Also, if that is a Blueprint, then my scribblings on the back of a Denny's placemat are The Mona Lisa
 
2009-03-26 6:32:30 PM  

gallo caldo: The table of contents for the President's budget:

* President's Message (4 pages, 73 KB)

* Inheriting a Legacy of Misplaced Priorities (12 pages, 163 KB)
* Jumpstarting the Economy and Investing for the Future (26 pages, 239 KB)
* Conclusion (2 pages, 45 KB)

* Department of Agriculture (6 pages, 174 KB)
* Department of Commerce (2 pages, 99 KB)
* Department of Defense (4 pages, 86 KB)
* National Intelligence Program (2 pages, 75 KB)
* Department of Education (4 pages, 109 KB)
* Department of Energy (4 pages, 80 KB)
* Department of Health and Human Services (4 pages, 108 KB)
* Department of Homeland Security (2 pages, 78 KB)
* Department of Housing and Urban Development (4 pages, 89 KB)
* Department of the Interior (4 pages, 96 KB)
* Department of Justice (2 pages, 210 KB)
* Department of Labor (4 pages, 98 KB)
* Department of State and Other International Programs (4 pages, 134 KB)
* Department of Transportation (2 pages, 87 KB)
* Department of the Treasury (2 pages, 72 KB)
* Department of Veterans Affairs (2 pages, 111 KB)
* Corps of Engineers - Civil Works (2 pages, 98 KB)
* Environmental Protection Agency (4 pages, 91 KB)
* National Aeronautics and Space Administration (2 pages, 88 KB)
* National Science Foundation (2 pages, 80 KB)
* Small Business Administration (2 pages, 92 KB)
* Social Security Administration (2 pages, 72 KB)
* Corporation for National Community Service (2 pages, 78 KB)

* Summary Tables (22 pages, 138 KB)

* Presentation and Technical Changes (7 pages, 44 KB)

64 pages of actual budget, 42 pages of "I didn't do it," 24 pages of summaries and conclusions, 7 pages of nothing.

That's about $62,500,000,000 per page. Statistically indistinguishable from the Republicans'.


Y'mean the one that doesn't even have numbers in it? Just vague promises they have no plans of fulfilling?

Not unlike John McCain's secret plan to capture bin Laden, eh?
 
2009-03-26 6:32:48 PM  

Obdicut: krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.

So he lied when he said "here it is, Mr. President".


See you just don't get it, when he said "here it is Mr. President" he meant "here it is Mr. President, but only read it next week."

Context shouldn't be ignored
 
2009-03-26 6:32:49 PM  

krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.


So you're getting closer to acceptance. Why did Boehner stand up and wave his thing in the air in response to Obama's comments (hint: context) if he didn't actually have a budget?
 
2009-03-26 6:33:47 PM  

God's Hubris: B..b..but, teleprompter!!


"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning"
George W Bush, January 11, 2000
 
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