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2009-03-26 3:05:14 PM  
18 pages? Bush wouldn't even have bothered to read it.
 
2009-03-26 3:20:47 PM  
As yes, the GOP budget pamphlet. It's not even a summary of their proposed changes to the Democrats' budget. but it's a wishlist.
 
2009-03-26 3:21:11 PM  
Compared to Obama's budget it is.
 
2009-03-26 3:23:54 PM  
When Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) was asked what his goal for deficit reduction would be -- President Obama aims to halve the nation's spending imbalance within five years -- Boehner responded simply: "To do better [than Obama]."

it's amazing to see the shambles that the republican party has become.
 
2009-03-26 3:24:31 PM  
I don't trust white people or their budgets.
 
2009-03-26 3:25:15 PM  
"We got some ideas here. They're better than his. Proof? What the hell is that? I told you they were better, so just believe it and do what I want."
 
2009-03-26 3:25:26 PM  

Adjective Bird Whiskey: I don't trust white people or their budgets.


then you'll love the republican party. it's led by a black guy and an indian, and instead of a budget they have a crayon drawing of a bald eagle high-fiving jesus.
 
2009-03-26 3:27:32 PM  

Hang On Voltaire: Compared to Obama's budget it is.


So, is Boehner lying like he did with the GOP response to the stimulus package? I didn't see your response...
 
2009-03-26 3:29:10 PM  

thomps: Adjective Bird Whiskey: I don't trust white people or their budgets.

then you'll love the republican party. it's led by a black guy and an indian, and instead of a budget they have a crayon drawing of a bald eagle high-fiving jesus.


LOL.
 
2009-03-26 3:29:56 PM  

thomps: instead of a budget they have a crayon drawing of a bald eagle high-fiving jesus

...

doling out tax cuts to the needy, like middle class people who make over $5,000,000 a year.
 
2009-03-26 3:30:17 PM  

Adjective Bird Whiskey: I don't trust white people or their budgets.


Being part Native American, I've learned to distrust such blanket statements...
 
2009-03-26 3:32:01 PM  

IXI Jim IXI: Being part Native American, I've learned to distrust such blanket statements...


they do tend to bring a pox upon those who make such statements
 
2009-03-26 3:36:42 PM  

thomps: then you'll love the republican party. it's led by a black guy and an indian, and instead of a budget they have a crayon drawing of a bald eagle high-fiving jesus.


Awesome.
 
2009-03-26 3:37:23 PM  
Here's the kind of logic Boehner's using...

"Two nights ago the president said, 'We haven't seen a budget yet out of Republicans.' Well, it's just not true because -- Here it is, Mr. President,"
 
2009-03-26 3:38:50 PM  
This is a real chart from the budget:

washingtonindependent.comView Full Size


Link (new window)
 
2009-03-26 3:40:07 PM  
if by "budget" you mean " a series of poltical talking points about why we don't like Obama's budget" then yes, that 18 page pamphlet is a budget.

It's pathetic, but there it is, Boehner is reduced to "pulling a McCarthy": Wave a piece of paper in front of the cameras, make grandiose claims about what's on it ,and hope like hell no one actually reads it
 
2009-03-26 3:40:46 PM  
Republican Budget:

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2009-03-26 3:42:58 PM  
Why, just look at all the details they provide regarding the military budget!


"...rebuilding our military..."


Seriously. That's it. The word "military" is found once in the whole pamphlet.
 
2009-03-26 3:43:04 PM  
After Obama delivered a prime-time speech previewing his budget, Boehner said, "he didn't offer his details until days later."

There you go. One of the leaders of the GOP basically saying, with their plan to save the country from budgetary disaster,"But Obama..."
 
2009-03-26 3:43:28 PM  

DamnYankees: This is a real chart from the budget:


I could have sat down to think up some sort of fake graph, but that is so much more effective at making the Republicans look incompetent than anything I could have thought up.
 
2009-03-26 3:44:02 PM  

hillbillypharmacist: I could have sat down to think up some sort of fake graph, but that is so much more effective at making the Republicans look incompetent than anything I could have thought up.


It's ok. Some of the graphs have people.
 
2009-03-26 3:44:06 PM  

DamnYankees: This is a real chart from the budget:


dude, that can't be real. if all you have is political theater, at least splurge for some decent props.
 
2009-03-26 3:45:26 PM  

IXI Jim IXI: "Two nights ago the president said, 'We haven't seen a budget yet out of Republicans.' Well, it's just not true because -- Here it is, Mr. President,"


Damn Obama, using that uppity "linear" time. Real Americans know that time is a cube.
 
2009-03-26 3:45:41 PM  

thomps: DamnYankees: This is a real chart from the budget:

dude, that can't be real. if all you have is political theater, at least splurge for some decent props.


Unless their reporting is wrong, its real.
 
2009-03-26 3:46:22 PM  

what_now: IXI Jim IXI: "Two nights ago the president said, 'We haven't seen a budget yet out of Republicans.' Well, it's just not true because -- Here it is, Mr. President,"

Damn Obama, using that uppity "linear" time. Real Americans know that time is a cube.


And yet, it's still true. Obama--or anyone else, for that matter--hasn't seen a budget out of the Republicans.
 
2009-03-26 3:47:18 PM  

what_now: Damn Obama, using that uppity "linear" time. Real Americans know that time is a cube.


I guess we HAVE turned that many corners in Iraq.

Someone get Stephen Hawking.
 
2009-03-26 3:47:19 PM  

DamnYankees: This is a real chart from the budget:


How about this one instead?

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2009-03-26 3:47:32 PM  

DamnYankees: This is a real chart from the budget:

Link (new window)


WTF? Did somebody need to fill up blank space and only had five minutes and Visio. This is pitiful.
 
2009-03-26 3:48:08 PM  

thomps: DamnYankees: This is a real chart from the budget:

dude, that can't be real. if all you have is political theater, at least splurge for some decent props.


It's on page 17 of the PDF. (new window, very short PDF)
 
2009-03-26 3:49:06 PM  

Code_Archeologist: WTF? Did somebody need to fill up blank space and only had five minutes and Visio. This is pitiful.


Come on, give them a break. They were two days late on their homework.
 
2009-03-26 3:50:51 PM  
Well, you can't have rainbows without trickling down...
 
2009-03-26 3:51:33 PM  
OUR PROPOSAL:
curbs spending
• Limits the Federal Budget from Growing Faster
than Family Budgets
Instead of spending money on wasteful
programs under the guise of "stimulus" and
"investments," Republicans seek to ensure that
the federal budget cannot grow faster than
families' ability to pay the bill.


How is this a proposal?
 
2009-03-26 3:53:08 PM  

Hender: It's on page 17 of the PDF. (new window, very short PDF)


i dunno, that family does look pretty happy. i'm almost completely convinced.
 
2009-03-26 3:54:21 PM  

Rev.K: How about this one instead?

HAHAHAHA


[image from i291.photobucket.com too old to be available]
 
2009-03-26 3:56:43 PM  
A good blog post on it from Ezra Klein - a little long:

If you're having a bad day, I highly encourage you to spend some quality time with the Republican budget proposal. It's reads like what would happen if The Onion put together a budget. "Area Man Releases Proposal for 2010 Federal Spending Priorities." One of my favorite lines comes on the first page. "Instead of spending money on wasteful programs under the guise of 'stimulus' and 'investments,' Republicans seek to ensure that the federal budget cannot grow faster than families' ability to pay the bill."

Forget the scare quotes are the word "investments," which is reminiscent of nothing so much as a good Paul Rudd line in Role Models ("Why did you put air quotes around the word 'present?' Are you implying we're not really here?"). The two clauses don't connect. The ability of families to pay the bill will depend on total spending levels, economic growth, and long-term spending trends. If there's no stimulus and four million Americans who would otherwise be employed don't have jobs, then then the federal budget would have to rapidly shrink.

But this sort of epic disengagement with policy is laced through the whole of the proposal. The health care section, for instance, is just a stack of lies. They say that Democrats propose "nearly $1 trillion" in health care spending as a downpayment" on reform. The actual number is $634 billion, which someone who's more familiar with, you know, numbers, might have characterized as "more than $600 billion," or, alternately, "$634 billion." The Republicans say that "the prime focus of [the Democrats] agenda is the establishment of a government-run health insurance plan," a policy idea that doesn't appear in the President's budget. They say that the Lewin Group has analyzed this policy that doesn't exist and found that it will force three out of four Americans onto government-run health care (the Lewin Group analyzed the Economic Policy Institute's proposal, which is not the President's budget). And so on, and so forth.

The Republican proposal, as you might expect, doesn't actually have a health care plan. But it does have this: "Republicans will be on the side of quality versus mediocrity, affordability versus unsustainable debt, and freedom of care versus bureaucrats in control. And we will be on the side of patients, doctors, and the American people." They are also in favor of good things rather than bad things, moving forward rather than going backwards, and the hobbits rather than the orcs. That said, the GOP does understand that some voters might be looking for specificity on their health plan. So they included this graphic:
repubchart.jpg

It's like someone showed them a flowchart. Once. And only for a few seconds. (My editor Ann Friedman just walked into the room. "It looks like they're building a budget molecule.")

But that flowchart is about the most detail their budget contains. The Republicans hammer Obama and quote British patients who sued the NHS, but they don't actually offer any, you know, numbers. They talk about balancing the budget but don't balance it. They don't offer estimates for their tax cuts or specifics on the programs they'll eliminate or projections on economic growth under their proposal. The threat going around the Capitol is that some impish Democratic chairman will ask the CBO to try and score the Republican proposal.
 
2009-03-26 3:59:07 PM  

thomps: Hender: It's on page 17 of the PDF. (new window, very short PDF)

i dunno, that family does look pretty happy. i'm almost completely convinced.


Holy shiat, I thought it was satire from the first link, but this is real. This is something the GOP actually put out. And the great thing is you can replace "Republican Road to Recover" with "Magic" and it actually makes more sense.

1: Reform Fannie and Freddie
2: End Bailouts
3: MAGIC!
4: Keep the Cost of Living Low
5: Happy Family Picture.

1: Lowers Taxes for Working Families
2: Tax Reform
3: MAGIC!
4: Increases Energy Exploration

1: Reforms Medicare & Medicaid
2: Universal Access to Affordable Coverage
3: MAGIC!
4: Limits Federal Spending
 
2009-03-26 4:00:03 PM  
hehe, I love the chart the ends with "EXPLORE ECONOMIC AND CHEAP FUEL" and then has a picture of an oil derrick.
 
2009-03-26 4:00:36 PM  

DamnYankees: This is a real chart from the budget:

Link (new window)


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2009-03-26 4:01:01 PM  
"Cantor and Ryan were reportedly "embarrassed" by the document -- believing it was better to absorb a week of hits from Democrats than to be slammed for failing to produce a thoughtful and detailed alternative. The goal, aides say, was to make Obama's team eat their words by producing a "killer" alternative with far less spending and greater tax cuts."

Source. (new window)

At least there are a few brains in the party leadership. Just not the ones calling the shots.
 
2009-03-26 4:01:04 PM  

IXI Jim IXI: hillbillypharmacist: I could have sat down to think up some sort of fake graph, but that is so much more effective at making the Republicans look incompetent than anything I could have thought up.

It's ok. Some of the graphs have people.


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2009-03-26 4:02:25 PM  

what_now: images.icanhascheezburger.com


LOL! That's great
 
2009-03-26 4:03:07 PM  
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2009-03-26 4:04:27 PM  
what_now: images.icanhascheezburger.com

*steals*
 
2009-03-26 4:05:45 PM  
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2009-03-26 4:06:20 PM  
I hope to god this becomes a new meme. I love it so much already.
 
2009-03-26 4:07:03 PM  
That's seriously it? They don't have a real one hiding somewhere?
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2009-03-26 4:08:04 PM  
We should thank the GOP for their "We Have A Real Republican Grasp At Responsible Budget Layouts" pamphlet.

It's comedy gold.
 
2009-03-26 4:10:05 PM  
That's not a farking budget. Does the GOP have anyone intelligent still working for them? There's no excuse for a national party to put out that laughable pile pamphlet of shiat as their alternative to Obama's budget proposal. It's embarrassing.
 
2009-03-26 4:10:14 PM  

Obdicut: That's seriously it? They don't have a real one hiding somewhere?


They're keeping it in an offshore account.
 
2009-03-26 4:10:39 PM  

thomps: instead of a budget they have a crayon drawing of a bald eagle high-fiving jesus.


[image from i89.photobucket.com too old to be available]
 
2009-03-26 4:11:54 PM  
Bloody William
Holy shiat, I thought it was satire from the first link, but this is real. This is something the GOP actually put out. And the great thing is you can replace "Republican Road to Recover" with "Magic" and it actually makes more sense.


Heh... nice. I can't look at their charts now without substituting the word "Magic". It does make sense.
 
2009-03-26 4:11:58 PM  

timmy_the_tooth: doling out tax cuts to the needy, like middle class people who make over $5,000,000 a year.


[image from i89.photobucket.com too old to be available]

i could change "stimulus plan" to "budget proposal", but i'm too lazy.
 
2009-03-26 4:13:45 PM  
I like how even the usual Republican Defense Squad isn't touching this thread with a ten foot pole.
 
2009-03-26 4:14:28 PM  
This is like Christmas! Only, a Christmas where the GOP is the Yule Log.

And it's ever so toasty :)
 
2009-03-26 4:14:32 PM  

Wintermute6: I like how even the usual Republican Defense Squad isn't touching this thread with a ten foot pole.


Give it another ten minutes or so...
 
2009-03-26 4:15:09 PM  
Maybe someone can get Michael Steele to rap this to us.
 
2009-03-26 4:15:40 PM  
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2009-03-26 4:16:59 PM  
When did the wingnuts start using "neodems"? Is it a term that actually has a definition yet, or is there still some time to sneak a little bit of the funny in?
 
2009-03-26 4:18:27 PM  

Obdicut: That's seriously it? They don't have a real one hiding somewhere?


Have a fast and dirty blank, then.

i246.photobucket.comView Full Size
 
2009-03-26 4:19:07 PM  

IrateShadow: When did the wingnuts start using "neodems"? Is it a term that actually has a definition yet, or is there still some time to sneak a little bit of the funny in?


Sneak in the funny. Plenty of time.
 
2009-03-26 4:19:41 PM  

Hender: Have a fast and dirty blank, then.


That's not a blank. It's the actual plan.
 
2009-03-26 4:19:56 PM  
Lets get a little production value.

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2009-03-26 4:19:57 PM  
I like how on page 9 the "& lowers taxes" is in a pretty font - and LOWER than the rest of the copy! That must make it true!
 
2009-03-26 4:20:41 PM  

IrateShadow: Hender: Have a fast and dirty blank, then.

That's not a blank. It's the actual plan.


ROFL.
 
2009-03-26 4:21:05 PM  
Someone needs to make a "I am serious graph. This are serious budget" image.
 
2009-03-26 4:21:52 PM  

DamnYankees: I hope to god this becomes a new meme. I love it so much already.


I made an unfunny one.

g.imagehost.orgView Full Size
 
2009-03-26 4:22:05 PM  

IrateShadow: When did the wingnuts start using "neodems"? Is it a term that actually has a definition yet, or is there still some time to sneak a little bit of the funny in?


Shouldn't it be "neolibs"? Or are they as bad at parody as they are at a counter-budget?
 
2009-03-26 4:22:45 PM  

Obdicut: I made an unfunny unlikely one.


FTFY.
 
2009-03-26 4:24:27 PM  
The plot of Scarface, GOP Edition.

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2009-03-26 4:24:57 PM  

Wintermute6: Or are they as bad at parody as they are at a counter-budget?


They're a caricature of a caricature of themselves.
 
2009-03-26 4:25:07 PM  

Wintermute6: Shouldn't it be "neolibs"? Or are they as bad at parody as they are at a counter-budget?


I'm not sure. They either are that bad, or someone is trolling them. See The link in Hender's earlier post about Cantor being embarassed.
 
2009-03-26 4:25:13 PM  

DamnYankees: It's like someone showed them a flowchart. Once. And only for a few seconds. (My editor Ann Friedman just walked into the room. "It looks like they're building a budget molecule.")


I just peed myself.
 
2009-03-26 4:26:20 PM  
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2009-03-26 4:28:25 PM  
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this was in their rough draft
 
2009-03-26 4:28:59 PM  
[image from home.comcast.net too old to be available]
 
2009-03-26 4:29:19 PM  

Bloody William:

Holy shiat, I thought it was satire from the first link, but this is real. This is something the GOP actually put out. And the great thing is you can replace "Republican Road to Recover" with "Magic" and it actually makes more sense.

1: Reform Fannie and Freddie
2: End Bailouts
3: MAGIC!
4: Keep the Cost of Living Low
5: Happy Family Picture.

1: Lowers Taxes for Working Families
2: Tax Reform
3: MAGIC!
4: Increases Energy Exploration

1: Reforms Medicare & Medicaid
2: Universal Access to Affordable Coverage
3: MAGIC!
4: Limits Federal Spending


PROFIT!!

/You forgot "Profit!"
//And Poland
 
2009-03-26 4:30:22 PM  

Hender: Obdicut: That's seriously it? They don't have a real one hiding somewhere?

Have a fast and dirty blank, then.


Dirtier than you think, man!

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2009-03-26 4:30:31 PM  
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props to Hender for the blank
 
2009-03-26 4:31:36 PM  
What was that? Republican obstructionists produce a pamphlet. Hey, that's great. Nice costly pamphlet you printed up. You going to work with us and try to fix things now? No... of course you're not. You're obstructionists and don't give a shiat about the betterment of the country. You're doing this for political reasons yet again...

Mark my words... here's how this will play out:

They give Obama a copy of their plan. Obama considers it and offers to incorporate the better ideas into the plan while rejecting the ones that don't fit. When 100% of the Republican ideas aren't accepted, Republicans will throw their hands in the air and scream bloody murder that they've been shut out of the process. Then they'll claim Obama isn't willing to work with them. Then they'll vote no on anything related to this, yet again putting party politics before the betterment of the country, and claim that Obama's plan will cause our country to collapse. They may even go so far as to complain about any provisions that he may have added by their suggestion.
---
Later on:
If the plan works and it does help to stimulate the economy and get us on the right track, Republicans will claim credit because of the provisions that were adopted by Obama that came from them.

If the plan doesn't work, they'll claim they were against it from the start and everything is Obama's fault.

Either way they're going to try and make Obama look bad, because that is the most important thing to them. Not making our country a better place to live, not improving our economy, not improving our standing on the world stage, and certainly not working together to get things done.

I'm pretty sure it will go down pretty much exactly as I described above... Sure, there could be some variance, but I think I've pretty much summed up the obvious plan they've put together.
 
2009-03-26 4:32:27 PM  
oh man, someone make one that includes one of those homosexual re-education camps.
 
2009-03-26 4:32:48 PM  
budget details? We don't need no stinking budget details. Now excuse me while I condemn the other side of the aisle.
 
2009-03-26 4:33:19 PM  
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2009-03-26 4:33:38 PM  
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2009-03-26 4:33:44 PM  

kasmel: props to Hender for the blank


all their base are belong to jesus?
 
2009-03-26 4:33:46 PM  

JohnnyC: They give Obama a copy of their plan. Obama considers it and offers to incorporate the better ideas into the plan while rejecting the ones that don't fit.


So...Obama will use some of the graphics?
 
2009-03-26 4:34:55 PM  
The Republicans appear to be playing a version of chess where the goal is to get all your pieces taken as quickly as possible to win.

Meanwhile the real world is playing regular old chess where the goal is to strategically position your pieces to control the field of play and dominate your opponent... And the Republicans think they are winning.
 
2009-03-26 4:35:18 PM  
Hender,

There isn't a circle of hell hot enough to make up for getting that stuck in my head.
 
2009-03-26 4:35:23 PM  
This thread really should have had voting enabled for the new graphs. Hender's Ice Ice Baby just made me choke on my water.
 
2009-03-26 4:36:21 PM  

thomps: kasmel: props to Hender for the blank

all their base are belong to jesus?


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I like my memes shaken, not stirred
 
2009-03-26 4:36:36 PM  
Oh man this thread is going to be awesome.

/grabs popcorn
 
2009-03-26 4:36:48 PM  
"market-driven rainbows"

Those gay people sure like to shop.
 
2009-03-26 4:36:49 PM  
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/cheap shot, and I really don't believe this of all patriots, Christians or Republicans.
//but the ones in Congress? Yeah, a lot of 'em are of this stripe
 
2009-03-26 4:36:57 PM  

Philip J. Fry: The Republicans appear to be playing a version of chess where the goal is to get all your pieces taken as quickly as possible to win.


They're actually playing checkers, and haven't figured out yet that the different pieces actually mean something.
 
2009-03-26 4:37:02 PM  
Hey guys, what software are you using to create those images?
 
2009-03-26 4:37:11 PM  

thomps: it's amazing to see the shambles that the republican party has become.


Uh... uh... MegaPrompTer! Suck it libs!
 
2009-03-26 4:38:06 PM  
I would love to see these numbers.

OH! It doesn't have any actual numbers!!!!!!
 
2009-03-26 4:38:11 PM  
Just waiting for someone to defend this...
 
2009-03-26 4:38:54 PM  

Philip J. Fry: Hey guys, what software are you using to create those images?


I'm being lazy today, but if you need something quick and dirty for at work, there's Sumo Paint (new window).
 
2009-03-26 4:39:13 PM  

IrateShadow: Philip J. Fry: The Republicans appear to be playing a version of chess where the goal is to get all your pieces taken as quickly as possible to win.

They're actually playing checkers, and haven't figured out yet that the different pieces actually mean something.


Someone just needs to tell them life isn't scored the same way as golf.
 
2009-03-26 4:39:16 PM  
I'm just gonna leave this here:

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2009-03-26 4:39:32 PM  
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2009-03-26 4:39:47 PM  

burndtdan: timmy_the_tooth: doling out tax cuts to the needy, like middle class people who make over $5,000,000 a year.

i could change "stimulus plan" to "budget proposal", but i'm too lazy.


The GOP: You're gonna love our TruckNutz!
 
2009-03-26 4:40:05 PM  
18 pages of:


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2009-03-26 4:40:11 PM  

Philip J. Fry: Hey guys, what software are you using to create those images?


OpenOffice Draw and Paint.Net. As I said, quick and dirty.
 
2009-03-26 4:40:56 PM  

Hender: As I said, quick and dirty.


doing it any other way wouldn't be fair to the original.
 
2009-03-26 4:41:03 PM  
... the Democrat budget ...
... the Democrat budget ...
... the Democrat budget ...
... wasteful Democrat spending ...
... the Democrat plan ...
... the Democrat budget ...
... the Democrat budget ...
... the Democrat budget ...
... the Democrat solution is to tax ...
... Democrats' energy policy ...
... the Democrats' plan ...
... other Democrat spending ...


Oops, missed a couple.

Remember: petty, needling word games are CENTRAL to the GOP victory strategy.
 
2009-03-26 4:41:23 PM  

DamnYankees: This is a real chart from the budget:

Link (new window)


I believe this could easily incorporate the "Oh Snap" flow chart.
 
2009-03-26 4:41:33 PM  
Where's the GOP defense squad on this one?

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/can't play with MS Paint circles at work
 
2009-03-26 4:41:42 PM  
[image from i89.photobucket.com too old to be available]

it was only a matter of time
 
2009-03-26 4:41:52 PM  
I'll stop being snarky can some one show me where their plan is for healthcare?

Please I would like to see it. I want to see these plans they say they have.
 
2009-03-26 4:42:33 PM  

thomps: Hender: As I said, quick and dirty.

doing it any other way wouldn't be fair to the original.


I'm all about PSCS2...but more cause I have it open anyway, I'm working...really...
 
2009-03-26 4:42:41 PM  

thomps: Hender: As I said, quick and dirty.

doing it any other way wouldn't be fair to the original.


I didn't smooth my fonts. Then again, I put in about half the time they did.
 
2009-03-26 4:43:05 PM  
market-driven rainbows

I thought the GOP was against gay marriage.
 
2009-03-26 4:43:12 PM  
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2009-03-26 4:43:29 PM  

Corvus: I'll stop being snarky can some one show me where their plan is for healthcare?

Please I would like to see it. I want to see these plans they say they have.


No, no, no, you've got it all wrong. It's patriotic to question the Neolibs but treasonous to question the Republicans. Got it now?
 
2009-03-26 4:43:50 PM  

BuckTurgidson: Oops, missed a couple.

Remember: petty, needling word games are CENTRAL to the GOP victory strategy.


That is completely unfair. They did a find and replace. How were they supposed to know that Word had a known liberal bias?
 
2009-03-26 4:44:08 PM  
You know, I'm gonna give'em a break.

-No one but a few morons believe they have any good ideas.
-No one wants to hear their same lame ideas.
-They have zero political capital to get anything passed. Why actually work up a real budget?
-Their constant supporters don't read anyway.
-Rush'll tell them it's an excellent plan, and the other morons will applaud and proclaim a win.
 
2009-03-26 4:45:11 PM  
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2009-03-26 4:45:34 PM  
Needs more TIME CUBE!
 
2009-03-26 4:46:43 PM  

burndtdan: it was only a matter of time


You bastard.
 
2009-03-26 4:46:46 PM  

BuckTurgidson: Remember: petty, needling word games are CENTRAL to the GOP victory strategy.


They know that in these troubled times, what the average American REALLY cares about isn't keeping his job, life savings or home, but about the president's birth certificate and his use of a teleprompter.
 
2009-03-26 4:46:56 PM  
The cover has a promising title.

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2009-03-26 4:47:05 PM  

kasmel: I'm all about PSCS2...but more cause I have it open anyway, I'm working...really...


Here's a better and smaller one.

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2009-03-26 4:48:00 PM  

Kanaloa: Needs more TIME CUBE!


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please god no
 
2009-03-26 4:48:48 PM  

Obdicut: I made an unfunny one.


Actually, that one is hilarious.

/God I love this thread. Thanks Republicans, you truly are the best unintentional comedy troupe ever.
 
2009-03-26 4:48:57 PM  
BloodyWilliam

Farking full of win.
 
2009-03-26 4:49:04 PM  

thomps: Adjective Bird Whiskey: I don't trust white people or their budgets.

then you'll love the republican party. it's led by a black guy and an indian, and instead of a budget they have a crayon drawing of a bald eagle high-fiving jesus.


Where can I buy my bald eagle high-fiving Jesus t-shirt?
 
2009-03-26 4:49:09 PM  

NewportBarGuy: I'm just gonna leave this here:


That map doesn't make sense. All the interventionists should be clustered together around Bush/Reagan/Nixon. It's also missing the non-libertarian paleoconservatives - the Pat Buchanans who want to both GTFO of foreign policy and want invasive, Christianist-based controls on other people's behaviour and free expression.
 
2009-03-26 4:49:30 PM  

BuckTurgidson: ... the Democrat budget ...
... the Democrat budget ...
... the Democrat budget ...
... wasteful Democrat spending ...
... the Democrat plan ...
... the Democrat budget ...
... the Democrat budget ...
... the Democrat budget ...
... the Democrat solution is to tax ...
... Democrats' energy policy ...
... the Democrats' plan ...
... other Democrat spending ...

Oops, missed a couple.

Remember: petty, needling word games are CENTRAL to the GOP victory strategy.


OOOHHHH!!!!

As an English Major, their petty use of "Democrat" really offends me on several levels.

/including the one where I got a fluffy LIBERAL Arts degree
//can't help but hear Michele Bachmann's voice saying that word
///she auto-called my parents' house when I was there the other day and I tried pushing buttons hoping that I could leave HER a message telling her.. well, very rude things!
 
2009-03-26 4:49:35 PM  

Corvus: where their plan is for healthcare?


I'm pretty sure it's something like this:

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2009-03-26 4:50:34 PM  

bobbette: That map doesn't make sense.


That was kind of the point.
 
2009-03-26 4:50:42 PM  

bobbette: That map doesn't make sense.


Then, oddly enough, it fits the GOP perfectly.
 
2009-03-26 4:51:13 PM  

DamnYankees: Someone needs to make a "I am serious graph. This are serious budget" image.



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2009-03-26 4:51:37 PM  
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2009-03-26 4:51:54 PM  
This thread is potentially legendary.
 
2009-03-26 4:51:55 PM  
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2009-03-26 4:52:09 PM  
Bloody William

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2009-03-26 4:52:19 PM  
And I thought they couldn't make a PDF file worse than that "100 Things Bush Admin accomplished" or whatever the hell that was they actually dared put up at White House homepage before the end of their team.
 
2009-03-26 4:52:28 PM  
FTFpdf: ...But a closer look at the Democrat budget reveals...

REALLY? Still on this juvenile nonsense?
 
2009-03-26 4:52:29 PM  
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"It is all part of their plan. You are playing right into their hands. More at 11."
 
2009-03-26 4:52:41 PM  
You're not big and you're not funny. None of you
 
2009-03-26 4:52:44 PM  
If only they could get elected to control all the branches of government for, say, 6 years. Then we could see all of this really put into action.
 
2009-03-26 4:53:17 PM  

Corvus: I'll stop being snarky can some one show me where their plan is for healthcare?


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2009-03-26 4:54:14 PM  

bikerific: If only they could get elected to control all the branches of government for, say, 6 years. Then we could see all of this really put into action.


I'd be shocked if they then immediately abandoned their political philosophy of fiscal conservatism. I just can't see that happening.
 
2009-03-26 4:54:28 PM  
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2009-03-26 4:54:39 PM  

NewportBarGuy: bobbette: That map doesn't make sense.

That was kind of the point.


Oh, was it deliberate? OK.

I got all busy judging it on its lack of merit as an infographic. It doesn't visually represent the Republican party at all.
 
2009-03-26 4:54:53 PM  

IXI Jim IXI: Republican Budget:



Unfortunately the Dem budget replaces the "miracle occuring" quote with a "Who cares if it works or not? We all gettin' paid".
 
2009-03-26 4:55:13 PM  

Corvus: I'll stop being snarky can some one show me where their plan is for healthcare?

Please I would like to see it. I want to see these plans they say they have.


While all of these graphs are good for the lulz, the truth is that this is just some "blueprint" thing that doesn't really explain anything, from what I can tell. When asked for examples of what would be cut, Boehner said "wait until next week". It's like trying to figure out the plot of a movie from a mysterious trailer.
 
2009-03-26 4:55:17 PM  

Sarah Palin: You're not big and you're not funny. None of you


Looks aren't everything...
 
2009-03-26 4:55:31 PM  
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2009-03-26 4:55:34 PM  
Bloody William

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2009-03-26 4:55:34 PM  

thomps: ... a crayon drawing of a bald eagle high-fiving jesus.


I'd buy that on a t-shirt. Hell, I use a shrinky dink of that as a keychain or pendant.
 
2009-03-26 4:55:52 PM  

Phil Herup: IXI Jim IXI: Republican Budget:


Unfortunately the Dem budget replaces the "miracle occuring" quote with a "Who cares if it works or not? We all gettin' paid".


We're here to criticize the Republican "budget," not talk serious stuff.
 
2009-03-26 4:56:09 PM  
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2009-03-26 4:56:09 PM  

Phil Herup: Unfortunately the Dem budget replaces the "miracle occuring" quote with a "Who cares if it works or not? We all gettin' paid".


Hi kitten!

We were all hoping someone would come and defend this. Tell me, when you make your budget at home, does it have numbers in it? Because it seems like this one is missing something...
 
2009-03-26 4:56:47 PM  

Phil Herup: IXI Jim IXI: Republican Budget:


Unfortunately the Dem budget replaces the "miracle occuring" quote with a "Who cares if it works or not? We all gettin' paid".


If you can't see the Republican "plan" is a joke it's time to put on another shade of rose colored glasses.
 
2009-03-26 4:57:06 PM  
It looks like they're trying to repeat the "Contract With America" which helped drive the Republican electoral gains during the 90's. However, it seems to have been turned over to a B-unit and what we got was Contract 2: Election' Booggaloo.
 
2009-03-26 4:57:07 PM  

IXI Jim IXI: So...Obama will use some of the graphics?


Could be... I'm sure he'll give it the consideration it deserves.
 
2009-03-26 4:57:24 PM  

Phil Herup: Unfortunately the Dem budget replaces the "miracle occuring" quote with a "Who cares if it works or not? We all gettin' paid".


No, it has figures and projections. This one does not.
 
2009-03-26 4:57:27 PM  

Phil Herup: IXI Jim IXI: Republican Budget:


Unfortunately the Dem budget replaces the "miracle occuring" quote with a "Who cares if it works or not? We all gettin' paid".


You're out of your element.

/Leo Carillo
 
2009-03-26 4:57:52 PM  

what_now: We were all hoping someone would come and defend this. Tell me, when you make your budget at home, does it have numbers in it? Because it seems like this one is missing something...


Webdings are basically the same thing as numbers.
 
2009-03-26 4:57:52 PM  
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2009-03-26 4:58:31 PM  
hahaha what kind of plan is this when it doesn't contain any numbers?

Seriously I would have been fired from my job if I came up with something like this.

Republicans should be ashamed of themselves for wasting my five minutes.
 
2009-03-26 4:58:36 PM  

Phil Herup: Unfortunately the Dem budget replaces the "miracle occuring" quote with a "Who cares if it works or not? We all gettin' paid".


At least it's an ethos.
 
2009-03-26 4:58:36 PM  

Sarah Palin: You're not big and you're not funny.


Lily Allen?
 
2009-03-26 4:58:40 PM  

JohnnyC: IXI Jim IXI: So...Obama will use some of the graphics?

Could be... I'm sure he'll give it the consideration it deserves.


Isn't that what we're doing?
 
2009-03-26 4:58:45 PM  
God that's awful. The answer to the question "well then what's your plan?" isn't "uh whut."
 
2009-03-26 4:58:46 PM  

what_now: We were all hoping someone would come and defend this. Tell me, when you make your budget at home, does it have numbers in it? Because it seems like this one is missing something...


How can you take my quote as a defense of the Republican budget?

[waits]
 
2009-03-26 4:58:53 PM  

DamnYankees: The threat going around the Capitol is that some impish Democratic chairman will ask the CBO to try and score the Republican proposal.


Oh please, oh please....
 
2009-03-26 4:59:09 PM  
Just tax abortions and gay sex.
 
2009-03-26 4:59:53 PM  
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2009-03-26 4:59:58 PM  

Phil Herup: How can you take my quote as a defense of the Republican budget?

[waits]


you're defending it with the favorite defense "no u"
 
2009-03-26 4:59:59 PM  

SeismicJizzer: hahaha what kind of plan is this when it doesn't contain any numbers?


Maybe they're using roman numerals, and just hid them in the text.
 
2009-03-26 5:00:21 PM  
How about some of this

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2009-03-26 5:00:43 PM  

Phil Herup: How can you take my quote as a defense of the Republican budget?


Technically, I don't think he did.
 
2009-03-26 5:00:46 PM  

vernonFL: Just tax abortions and gay sex.


I don't think the Republicans really want to put in THAT much of their own money.
 
2009-03-26 5:01:01 PM  

vernonFL: Just tax abortions and gay sex.


And gay abortion sex.
 
2009-03-26 5:01:16 PM  
I really like this line:

By any reasonable definition, the Democrat budget
spends too much. In the current Fiscal Year, the federal
government would spend over $4 trillion or 28.5 percent
of the economy-the highest level since World War II.
The new budget is fresh off an eight percent increase in
nondefense spending from the omnibus-the highest
increase since the Carter administration, except
immediately following the September 11th attacks


This is the biggest increase in spending since that EVIL LIBTARD DEMONRAT Carter except when we did it more recently, but 9/11!.
 
2009-03-26 5:01:22 PM  

Phil Herup: [waits]


[waits]

Crap...did I miss a step?
 
2009-03-26 5:01:31 PM  
I humbly ask to give them the same amount of time, that we gave Geitner to dust off the Paulson plan, to compile the numbers and hash it out some more.
 
2009-03-26 5:01:41 PM  

IXI Jim IXI: Phil Herup: [waits]

[waits]

Crap...did I miss a step?


we need to draw you a chart
 
2009-03-26 5:01:43 PM  

IXI Jim IXI: SeismicJizzer: hahaha what kind of plan is this when it doesn't contain any numbers?

Maybe they're using roman numerals, and just hid them in the text.


It's a code that, when unraveled, spells out "Drink...More...Ovaltine".
 
2009-03-26 5:01:57 PM  

Wight Power: And gay abortion sex.


Necropediphilia?
 
2009-03-26 5:02:07 PM  
I for one would like to thank the GOP party for a new meme.
 
2009-03-26 5:02:27 PM  

IXI Jim IXI: Wight Power: And gay abortion sex.

Necropediphilia?


homonecropedophilia.
 
2009-03-26 5:03:02 PM  

Phil Herup: How can you take my quote as a defense of the Republican budget?


You are attempting to deflect attention from the delightfully farcical mess that the GOP came up with by using the "both sides are bad!!1" argument.

Seriously: Let it go. Sit this one out. George W. Bush could have come up with a better budget.
 
2009-03-26 5:03:16 PM  

Saiga410: I humbly ask to give them the same amount of time, that we gave Geitner to dust off the Paulson plan, to compile the numbers and hash it out some more.


After they come out with "The President said two days ago that we didn't have a plan. Well, here's our plan now! So he was wrong! pppppttthhhppp!"?

Fark em.
 
2009-03-26 5:03:45 PM  
Comic nerd chart!

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2009-03-26 5:03:57 PM  

burndtdan: homonecropedophilia.


Homonecropedobeastiality?
 
2009-03-26 5:04:10 PM  
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2009-03-26 5:04:23 PM  

what_now: Phil Herup: How can you take my quote as a defense of the Republican budget?

You are attempting to deflect attention from the delightfully farcical mess that the GOP came up with by using the "both sides are bad!!1" argument.

Seriously: Let it go. Sit this one out. George W. Bush could have come up with a better budget.


it is a shocking to find out that W was the brains of the republican party after all!
 
2009-03-26 5:04:54 PM  

IXI Jim IXI: burndtdan: homonecropedophilia.

Homonecropedobeastiality?


would that be a gay dog farking an aborted fetus?
 
2009-03-26 5:05:00 PM  
priestrape

Beat you to it sort of.
 
2009-03-26 5:05:11 PM  

what_now: We were all hoping someone would come and defend this. Tell me, when you make your budget at home, does it have numbers in it? Because it seems like this one is missing something...


The "defense" of this is just explaining what it is: a blueprint. It's stupid, but it's not the budget. The "multi-hundred-page" budget's due to be released next week, according to House Repubs.
 
2009-03-26 5:05:14 PM  

IXI Jim IXI:
Necropediphilia?


Wouldn't it be Necrohomopediphilia?

Or does the gay thing not matter after so many prefixes? Either way, it's delicious.
 
2009-03-26 5:05:41 PM  
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude

freaky
 
2009-03-26 5:05:51 PM  

burndtdan: would that be a gay dog farking an aborted fetus?


Nah. It'd be farking a dead Labrador puppy outside of a daycare.
 
2009-03-26 5:06:04 PM  

SeismicJizzer: hahaha what kind of plan is this when it doesn't contain any numbers?

Seriously I would have been fired from my job if I came up with something like this.

Republicans should be ashamed of themselves for wasting my five minutes.


I just got off the phone with Karl and Dick. They just asked me to apologize to you, Jizzer. So, we are sorry. All better now? I'd hate to think you waster any more of your precious time.
 
2009-03-26 5:06:39 PM  

priestrape: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude

freaky


Seriously though. Get out of my head.
 
2009-03-26 5:06:49 PM  

Wight Power: Or does the gay thing not matter after so many prefixes? Either way, it's delicious.


I think once you get to the point where you're banging the dead, whether it's a male or female pretty much becomes a minor point.
 
2009-03-26 5:07:15 PM  

haplo53: Phil Herup: How can you take my quote as a defense of the Republican budget?

Technically, I don't think he did.


He didn't defend it. He repeated it. Almost verbatim.
 
2009-03-26 5:07:25 PM  
the late update is pretty good to as they begin pointing fingers and being outraged at each other:

Late Update: As Democrats (along with Contessa Brewer) have a ball playing up the GOP plan's lack of detail, Politico reports that House Republican aides are already squabbling over whose boss thought it was a good idea to unveil a budget that lacked nearly all the essential qualities of budget-ness.

The whole post is worth reading, but this quote from "a GOP aide heavily involved in budget strategy" stands well on its own:

"In his egocentric rush to get on camera, Mike Pence threw the rest of the Conference under the bus, specifically Paul Ryan, whose staff has been working night and day for weeks to develop a substantive budget plan ... I hope his camera time was gratifying enough to justify erasing the weeks of hard work by dozens of Republicans to put forth serious ideas."

If only the House Republican Conference were a reality show. Pence and Ryan's aides would have to hash all this out on camera while wielding Nerf bats on a giant log suspended over the ocean, and then sing with Dionne Warwick.
 
2009-03-26 5:07:52 PM  
Fear the BUDGETCUBE!

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2009-03-26 5:08:18 PM  
UPDATE:

Page 19 detailing the GOP solution to health care has just been released.

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2009-03-26 5:08:23 PM  

IXI Jim IXI: Nah. It'd be farking your girlfriend's a dead Labrador puppy outside of a daycare.


FIFY
 
2009-03-26 5:08:39 PM  

krelborne: The "defense" of this is just explaining what it is: a blueprint. It's stupid, but it's not the budget. The "multi-hundred-page" budget's due to be released next week, according to House Repubs.


Then why did John Boehner say "Obama said we didn't have a budget, here it is" and hold this up?
 
2009-03-26 5:08:40 PM  
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2009-03-26 5:08:59 PM  

IXI Jim IXI: burndtdan: would that be a gay dog farking an aborted fetus?

Nah. It'd be farking a dead Labrador puppy outside of a daycare.


or as i call it, tuesday.
 
2009-03-26 5:09:45 PM  

what_now: Seriously: Let it go. Sit this one out. George W. Bush could have come up with a better budget.


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2009-03-26 5:10:01 PM  
 
2009-03-26 5:10:57 PM  
Hang on, if Republicans think gays are wrong and abortions are wrong, where do they come down on aborting gay babies, if this were possible?
 
2009-03-26 5:11:06 PM  

NewportBarGuy: UPDATE:

Page 19 detailing the GOP solution to health care has just been released.


Don't do that! I have a cold. Laughing that hard makes it hurt.
 
2009-03-26 5:11:07 PM  

h8_u_2: "In his egocentric rush to get on camera, Mike Pence threw the rest of the Conference under the bus, specifically Paul Ryan, whose staff has been working night and day for weeks to develop a substantive budget plan ... I hope his camera time was gratifying enough to justify erasing the weeks of hard work by dozens of Republicans to put forth serious ideas."


Awww, what a shame. Nice to see Boehner was there to cover his ass:

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2009-03-26 5:12:31 PM  
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2009-03-26 5:12:50 PM  

Hender: Isn't that what we're doing?


No... it's what you're doing. Or some other folks (didn't actually check if you made one of those silly chart mods). :)
 
2009-03-26 5:13:27 PM  
I'm really gonna be interested in what the GOP's numbers will look like when they release the more detailed version of their budget (with actual numbers this time!). I'm wondering how many jobs are going to be created by cutting taxes for the rich. I want to see if they are going to base it off how many jobs were created with Bush's $1.4 trillion tax cuts.
 
2009-03-26 5:14:54 PM  
Hang On Voltaire 2009-03-26 03:21:11 PM
Compared to Obama's budget it is.

And you've determined that using what numbers? Oh, this is HOV. Nevermind. Reality has no bearing on his posts.
 
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2009-03-26 5:15:36 PM  

pixistick: krelborne: The "defense" of this is just explaining what it is: a blueprint. It's stupid, but it's not the budget. The "multi-hundred-page" budget's due to be released next week, according to House Repubs.

Then why did John Boehner say "Obama said we didn't have a budget, here it is" and hold this up?


Ooooh, you got him! He called it a budget! He never used the word outline or blueprint in that particular sentence! No backsies!
 
2009-03-26 5:16:01 PM  

JohnnyC: Hender: Isn't that what we're doing?

No... it's what you're doing. Or some other folks (didn't actually check if you made one of those silly chart mods). :)


That's my point. We're treating it with all the deference and respect that it's due.
 
2009-03-26 5:16:03 PM  
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2009-03-26 5:17:04 PM  

Kanaloa: Fear the BUDGETCUBE!


Now if they can solve the time cube they could also throw in an extra $1000! That will allow us to lower taxes on the rich!

My how it all comes together now.
 
2009-03-26 5:17:21 PM  

krelborne: Ooooh, you got him! He called it a budget! He never used the word outline or blueprint in that particular sentence! No backsies!


wat?

The man said "HERE IS THE BUDGET" What am I supposed to take away from that? It's not really a budget?

Sorry, you're reaching.
 
2009-03-26 5:18:41 PM  
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2009-03-26 5:19:26 PM  

krelborne: pixistick: krelborne: The "defense" of this is just explaining what it is: a blueprint. It's stupid, but it's not the budget. The "multi-hundred-page" budget's due to be released next week, according to House Repubs.

Then why did John Boehner say "Obama said we didn't have a budget, here it is" and hold this up?

Ooooh, you got him! He called it a budget! He never used the word outline or blueprint in that particular sentence! No backsies!


From CNN: Asked where the cuts would be coming from, Boehner said, "We'll wait and see next week."

READ: "Fu*k if I know. We haven't made it that far. Probably from some queermo hippie bullshiat that makes us less safe from ay-rabs."
 
2009-03-26 5:19:59 PM  
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2009-03-26 5:20:10 PM  
I just looked at the PDF. Holy crap, and some of you people want these morans in charge of the government again? I am truly surprised there WASN'T unicorns and rainbows in that crapfest.
 
2009-03-26 5:20:44 PM  
best politics thread Evar!
 
2009-03-26 5:21:05 PM  
Ah, the birth of a meme!

Thank you, 2009 Republican budget proposal
 
2009-03-26 5:21:18 PM  

WaltzingMathilda: From CNN: Asked where the cuts would be coming from, Boehner said, "We'll wait and see next week."


So we won't even hear about the real budget UNTIL THE WEEKEND?
 
2009-03-26 5:22:21 PM  
This is actually real? That's......amazing. What a disgrace.
 
2009-03-26 5:22:28 PM  
Skleenar Quote 2009-03-26 05:16:03 PM

HAHA!
 
2009-03-26 5:23:17 PM  
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2009-03-26 5:23:33 PM  
See they are not just the party of "NO" look at what they have in their "plan".


Republicans propose to undo the recent reckless and wasteful Democrat spending binge included in the so-called "stimulus" and omnibus bills.


See they have a PLAN to say "NO" now!!
 
2009-03-26 5:23:50 PM  

Truncks1: I'm really gonna be interested in what the GOP's numbers will look like when they release the more detailed version of their budget (with actual numbers this time!). I'm wondering how many jobs are going to be created by cutting taxes for the rich. I want to see if they are going to base it off how many jobs were created with Bush's $1.4 trillion tax cuts.


What I want is for someone with an education in economics to address wealth condensation and how progressive taxation is the strongest market force available to reduce it in a free market economy. Every time I've brought that up with someone that supports flat tax or 'fair tax' they either don't know what I'm talking about or claim that it doesn't exist.
 
2009-03-26 5:23:54 PM  

Shryke: I just got off the phone with Karl and Dick. They just asked me to apologize to you, Jizzer. So, we are sorry. All better now? I'd hate to think you waster any more of your precious time.


haha thank you

/after re-reading my post I did come off smug
 
2009-03-26 5:24:32 PM  
This thread gets better and better.

Love the TPM headline from today's Gibbsfest: Gibbs On GOP Budget: More Windmill Pictures Than Numbers
 
2009-03-26 5:24:53 PM  

Bloody William: So we won't even hear about the real budget UNTIL THE WEEKEND?


There won't be a real budget until Grover Norquist writes one for them. Unfortunately for them, he's functionally retarded.
 
2009-03-26 5:25:21 PM  

Headso: Skleenar Quote 2009-03-26 05:16:03 PM

HAHA!


I didn't even have to use my AK.
 
2009-03-26 5:25:23 PM  
Stolen:

I've been saying this for a while now, but something people need to understand about the current state of American politics is that Rep Mike Pence (R-IN) is not a smart man. He lacks intelligence. He's been able to rise into the House leadership and even somehow require a reputation as a policy thinker of the right larger because it's extraordinarily rare for the media to ask a politician to answer a question about a policy issue. But when Pence is asked to do this-as Norah O'Donnell did below-he's completely unable to deal with it.

Basically, Pence is very upset that Obama's budget proposal would lead to high deficits. Pence is also the author of an alternative "budget" "plan." O'Donnell, sensibly, asks him what the deficit would be under his plan. It's not a tough question, it's not a gotcha question, it's not an ideological question. Indeed, if Pence knew the answer to the question, and if the answer made sense, it would actually count as an absurd softball. But Pence doesn't know!

Now we're told the Republicans will have more details next week. If so, it'll be interesting to see if they submit the thing to the CBO for rigorous scoring.
 
2009-03-26 5:25:27 PM  
In case you didn't read the original pdf here are some real gems
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2009-03-26 5:26:40 PM  
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2009-03-26 5:27:43 PM  
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude

Close, but it's Madagascar.
 
2009-03-26 5:28:09 PM  

Hender: Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude

Close, but it's Madagascar.


Damn it. Off to fix.
 
2009-03-26 5:28:31 PM  
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2009-03-26 5:28:38 PM  
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2009-03-26 5:29:43 PM  

pixistick: krelborne: Ooooh, you got him! He called it a budget! He never used the word outline or blueprint in that particular sentence! No backsies!

wat?

The man said "HERE IS THE BUDGET" What am I supposed to take away from that? It's not really a budget?

Sorry, you're reaching.


You're ignoring all context and all other statements about this thing, grasping at the omission of one word from one sentence, all because you want to force a particular partisan interpretation of events, and I'M the one who's reaching? Please.

BTW, is Fark really slow for anyone else?
 
2009-03-26 5:29:54 PM  

Bloody William: WaltzingMathilda: From CNN: Asked where the cuts would be coming from, Boehner said, "We'll wait and see next week."

So we won't even hear about the real budget UNTIL THE WEEKEND?


well, next week, when they're scheduled to vote on it.

please remember this is the same man biatching about how the stimulus bill was put in front of him too close to the vote. now he's going to do the same farking thing with the budget. bravo, party of unabashed hypocrisy.
 
2009-03-26 5:29:55 PM  
satanorsanta

Don't those circles (the color/font combo) look strikingly similar to Obama's ridiculous "Office of the President-Elect" seals?
[image from foxnews.com too old to be available]

// hotlinked from Fox News.com
// because they were asking for it
 
2009-03-26 5:30:52 PM  
Fixed:

Fail for me

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2009-03-26 5:31:15 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Don't those circles (the color/font combo) look strikingly similar to Obama's ridiculous "Office of the President-Elect" seals?


i heard the original draft of the pamphlet was full of greek columns too.
 
2009-03-26 5:31:18 PM  

krelborne: You're ignoring all context and all other statements about this thing, grasping at the omission of one word from one sentence, all because you want to force a particular partisan interpretation of events, and I'M the one who's reaching? Please.


Yes, you're reaching.

If I say, "Here is my budget" to my manager, and they open it up and it's full of vague promises like this, I would have it thrown back in my face and told not to waste her farking time.
 
2009-03-26 5:31:24 PM  
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this should keep the neocon douchebags from pulling that "unicorns and rainbows" crap out of their asses again. Right?
 
2009-03-26 5:31:43 PM  
Dammit people, it's not a cube!

It's wibbly-wobbly...timey-wimey...stuff.
 
2009-03-26 5:31:57 PM  

Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: Fixed:

Fail for me


close, but it's malaysian.
 
2009-03-26 5:32:07 PM  
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Oh I see. You just say it exists!

Stupid Democrats coming up with all these health care plans that cost money. They should just say it already exists instead and then it's all free!
 
2009-03-26 5:32:24 PM  

krelborne: BTW, is Fark really slow for anyone else?


The sheer amount of win in this thread is clogging the tubes.
 
2009-03-26 5:32:59 PM  
Love the thread.

But, excuse me, when the *FARK* did they get GOP.gov as a website? Seriously?

I wasn't terribly keen on change.gov. But, I accept that there is a proper governmental transition system in place, and Obama was elected.

The GOP is not elected to *ANYTHING*. At all. Even when they were in the majority Parties are not part of the constitution.

Who decides? Can the Communist Party USA get a site? Libertarians?

Bad, bad precedent.
 
2009-03-26 5:33:31 PM  
This thread is full of....

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2009-03-26 5:33:42 PM  

ravenlore: Dammit people, it's not a cube!

It's wibbly-wobbly...timey-wimey...stuff.


So that's how Boehner could say that Obama not seeing their "budget" two days ago wasn't true! He clearly sent the copy in his hand back in time to show Obama!
 
2009-03-26 5:34:08 PM  

Adjective Bird Whiskey: I don't trust white people or their budgets.


Jokes on you! They don't live by a budget, or with-in their means.
 
2009-03-26 5:34:50 PM  

priestrape: this should keep the neocon douchebags from pulling that "unicorns and rainbows" crap out of their asses again. Right?


It's even better if you read it in Jon Stewart's version of Bush's voice. It fits the diction perfectly.
 
2009-03-26 5:34:50 PM  

culebra: krelborne: BTW, is Fark really slow for anyone else?

The sheer amount of win in this thread is clogging the tubes.


Looks like they pushed some new features out
 
2009-03-26 5:36:03 PM  
CONCERNING THE ACTUAL PROPOSAL:
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CONCERNING THIS THREAD:
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2009-03-26 5:36:15 PM  
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2009-03-26 5:36:19 PM  

Lawnchair: Love the thread.

But, excuse me, when the *FARK* did they get GOP.gov as a website? Seriously?

I wasn't terribly keen on change.gov. But, I accept that there is a proper governmental transition system in place, and Obama was elected.

The GOP is not elected to *ANYTHING*. At all. Even when they were in the majority Parties are not part of the constitution.

Who decides? Can the Communist Party USA get a site? Libertarians?

Bad, bad precedent.


It's stupid ot use the TLD. However, the Democrats have democrats.senate.gov for Democrats in the Senate. The GOP thing is far more party branding than "Republicans in Congress," which is what the site purports to be, though.
 
2009-03-26 5:36:50 PM  
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* "affordable" is based on average congressional Republican with 7 houses definition of affordability. Your millage may vary.
 
2009-03-26 5:36:57 PM  
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2009-03-26 5:37:22 PM  

priestrape: this should keep the neocon douchebags from pulling that "unicorns and rainbows" crap out of their asses again. Right?


farm1.static.flickr.com

It's like the GOP hired this guy to create their copy.
 
2009-03-26 5:37:39 PM  
At least someone might read this one before voting on it *AHEM*.

That being said, it's an outline that will be ignored. Presi-prompter, Coont of the House unavailable for comment.
 
2009-03-26 5:38:15 PM  
I love this thread so much I want to follow it home and park outside its house and peer in its windows all night long, dreaming of the day when we can truly be together.
 
2009-03-26 5:39:11 PM  

3_Butt_Cheeks: That being said, it's an outline that will be ignored. Presi-prompter, Coont of the House unavailable for comment.


Stay classy!
 
2009-03-26 5:39:14 PM  

ravenlore: Dammit people, it's not a cube!

It's wibbly-wobbly...timey-wimey...stuff.


You sound like a furriner. That don't sound American to me.

/a vegetable as a lapel pin?
 
2009-03-26 5:39:45 PM  

3_Butt_Cheeks: Presi-prompter


How long have you been sitting on that gem, cheif? Actually, just STFU.
 
2009-03-26 5:39:51 PM  
priestrape 2009-03-26 05:31:24 PM
[Image: "Put simply, our energy policy is aimed at more energy - not less; at cheaper fuel bills - not higher; at more jobs - not fewer; and at increasing energy independence - not less. We want to save consumers money, create jobs and grow the economy, and decrease our reliance on regimes that are not our friends, and the Democrats are telling us no."]

"this should keep the neocon douchebags from pulling that "unicorns and rainbows" crap out of their asses again. Right?"


You know what's funny? The Republican party had 8 years to:
Create an energy policy aimed at more energy - they didn't.
Decrease fuel bills - they didn't.
Create more jobs - they didn't.
Increase energy independence - they didn't.
Save consumers money - they didn't.
Grow the economy - they broke it.
Decrease reliance on unfriendly regimes - they didn't.

They had 8 long years to do those tasks and they didn't. In fact, for a few of those tasks, they actually made the situation worse. Now we're just supposed to believe that overnight they've had an epiphany?
 
2009-03-26 5:40:01 PM  

Dr Dreidel: satanorsanta

Don't those circles (the color/font combo) look strikingly similar to Obama's ridiculous "Office of the President-Elect" seals?


// hotlinked from Fox News.com
// because they were asking for it


Oh, so for giggles I went and looked into that some more, because I was wondering about their logo, too. And I found this bit of butt-hurt (new window) about how the President-Elect seal was ebil bad because it was so similar to the seal of the President of the United States.

But, now the GOP is using that same logo on their material, in spite of the fact that the document they attached it to is not from the President and the President is not from their party.

Not a big deal, IMO, but it's fun to watch the butt-hurt ones prove to be hypocrites.
 
2009-03-26 5:40:11 PM  

3_Butt_Cheeks: At least someone might read this one before voting on it *AHEM*.


It doesn't have any numbers. You can't vote on it! My household budget has more information in it.
 
2009-03-26 5:40:20 PM  
cheif

culebra: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Presi-prompter

How long have you been sitting on that gem, cheif? Actually, just STFU.


chief, even
 
2009-03-26 5:41:20 PM  

3_Butt_Cheeks: At least someone might read this one before voting on it *AHEM*.

That being said, it's an outline that will be ignored. Presi-prompter, Coont of the House unavailable for comment.


Attempt to defend and/or deflect? Judges?

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2009-03-26 5:41:20 PM  

RevMercutio: ravenlore: Dammit people, it's not a cube!

It's wibbly-wobbly...timey-wimey...stuff.

You sound like a furriner. That don't sound American to me.

/a vegetable as a lapel pin?


/insert double entendre regarding Five's vegetable here
 
2009-03-26 5:41:35 PM  
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2009-03-26 5:41:39 PM  
Surely the Republican road to recovery involves at some point declaring all-out war on TEH EEEVIL TELLYPROMMTERZ!
 
2009-03-26 5:41:58 PM  

3_Butt_Cheeks: At least someone might read this one before voting on it *AHEM*.

That being said, it's an outline that will be ignored. Presi-prompter, Coont of the House unavailable for comment.


Do you have to defend everything they do? Why are you such a partisan hack?
 
2009-03-26 5:42:21 PM  
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2009-03-26 5:42:29 PM  

thomps: a bald eagle high-fiving jesus.


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2009-03-26 5:43:35 PM  

3_Butt_Cheeks: At least someone might read this one before voting on it *AHEM*.

That being said, it's an outline that will be ignored. Presi-prompter, Coont of the House unavailable for comment.


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2009-03-26 5:43:59 PM  
I seriously don't understand how people take the GOP seriously. It's not just that their ideas are dumb, but when in power they don't do anything! What did Bush actually do in 8 years, 6 of which had a GOP congress? Lower taxes and go to war. Period. Obama has literally done more than this in a month. Why does anyone think it would be different if the GOP got back in office?
 
2009-03-26 5:44:04 PM  

Obdicut: krelborne: You're ignoring all context and all other statements about this thing, grasping at the omission of one word from one sentence, all because you want to force a particular partisan interpretation of events, and I'M the one who's reaching? Please.

Yes, you're reaching.

If I say, "Here is my budget" to my manager, and they open it up and it's full of vague promises like this, I would have it thrown back in my face and told not to waste her farking time.


And you're doing it, too. What is it about the words "blueprint" and "wait until next week" that you find so hard to understand?

The whole "deliberately obtuse" thing can be fun, but let's not pretend like I'm the one being unreasonable.
 
2009-03-26 5:44:47 PM  
And why does this "Budget" say "REPUBLICAN'S PLAN" in it everywhere?

I guess they NEVER intend to try to get any Democrats to vote for it in congress.

Why don't they come up with a REAL plan to try to get votes with?
 
2009-03-26 5:44:58 PM  
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2009-03-26 5:44:58 PM  
Junior O'Daniel: We could hire our own midget, even shorter than his.
Pappy O'Daniel: Wouldn't we look like a bunch of Johnny-come-latelies, bragging on our own midget, doesn't matter how stumpy.
 
2009-03-26 5:45:57 PM  

krelborne: The whole "deliberately obtuse" thing can be fun, but let's not pretend like I'm the one being unreasonable.


Nobody is pretending that. It's reality.
 
2009-03-26 5:47:34 PM  

3_Butt_Cheeks: At least someone might

try and read this one before voting on it *AHEM*. shiatting themselves with laughter.

Seriously. Do you want to trust the guys who claimed that their $1.4 trillion tax cut wouldn't really go to the richest among us, it was for everyone!! It'll create a brazilliondy jobs!!!

...and then proceeded to crash our economy. Or tank it. Or crash the tanker of our economy into the reefs of reality, spewing billions of our crude oil dollars into the seas, never to be recovered.
 
2009-03-26 5:47:45 PM  

krelborne: And you're doing it, too. What is it about the words "blueprint" and "wait until next week" that you find so hard to understand?


"Two nights ago, the president said we haven't seen a budget yet of the Republicans," said House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio). "Well, it's not true, because here it is Mr. President." He waved a thin document called "The Republican Road to Recovery" that describes the GOP proposal. (new window)

Yeah, he goes on to say it's a "blueprint," but Obama's still right: we haven't seen their budget.
 
2009-03-26 5:48:38 PM  

RevMercutio: ravenlore: RevMercutio: ravenlore: Dammit people, it's not a cube!

It's wibbly-wobbly...timey-wimey...stuff.

You sound like a furriner. That don't sound American to me.

/a vegetable as a lapel pin?

/insert double entendre regarding Five's vegetable here

Can we bypass that and ogle his daughter instead?

Pictured here with some bloke.


Some of us like to ogle both.

/and that bloke
 
2009-03-26 5:48:59 PM  

T. Dawg: I like how on page 9 the "& lowers taxes" is in a pretty font - and LOWER than the rest of the copy! That must make it true!



I like all of the title pages. There's like 5 of them in this 19 page report. I'm also partial to all of the intermittent fancy text, large font sizing and generous spacing. The random graphics also make a nice filler. Half a page of circles tricks me into thinking it's a whole page of content! If you condensed this document into standard format, I'm thinking the whole thing is actually about 8 pages. ...And most of it is whining and posturing.

In short, this is what Sarah Palin would look like if she were a PDF document.
 
2009-03-26 5:49:41 PM  
The url for the pdf is http://www.gop.gov/solutions/budget/road-to-recovery-final.

http://www.gop.gov/solutions/budget/road-to-recovery also works.

I wonder if there are any other live urls?
 
2009-03-26 5:49:47 PM  

krelborne: Obdicut: krelborne: You're ignoring all context and all other statements about this thing, grasping at the omission of one word from one sentence, all because you want to force a particular partisan interpretation of events, and I'M the one who's reaching? Please.

Yes, you're reaching.

If I say, "Here is my budget" to my manager, and they open it up and it's full of vague promises like this, I would have it thrown back in my face and told not to waste her farking time.

And you're doing it, too. What is it about the words "blueprint" and "wait until next week" that you find so hard to understand?

The whole "deliberately obtuse" thing can be fun, but let's not pretend like I'm the one being unreasonable.


LOL, what an idiot. I feel bad for you that you are so invested in your "team" that you even have to defend the absurdly undefensable.
 
2009-03-26 5:50:37 PM  
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2009-03-26 5:51:20 PM  

Antonio_Talibanderas: In short, this is what Sarah Palin would look like if she were a PDF document federal budget proposal.


FTFY.
 
2009-03-26 5:51:24 PM  
And why does their "plan" talk mostly about Obama's budget?


Putting "NO" in a document doesn't turn it into a plan.
 
2009-03-26 5:51:50 PM  

Antonio_Talibanderas:
In short, this is what Sarah Palin would look like if she were a PDF document.


Perfect.
 
2009-03-26 5:53:03 PM  
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2009-03-26 5:54:04 PM  

thomps: then you'll love the republican party. it's led by a black guy and an indian, and instead of a budget they have a crayon drawing of a bald eagle high-fiving jesus.


I have to have that on a t-shirt. Quick, Farker artists, create that t-shirt!
 
2009-03-26 5:54:22 PM  

priestrape:

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this should keep the neocon douchebags from pulling that "unicorns and rainbows" crap out of their asses again. Right?


Ooooh, oh! I wanna write like a Republican!

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/lol @ shiatty writing ability
 
2009-03-26 5:54:22 PM  
From their "plan":

With regard to entitlements, Republicans support the
notion that wealthy seniors like Warren Buffett and
George Soros can afford to pay $2 per day more for their
Medicare prescription drug coverage


WTF?!?! Bitter much? Lets just target out Democrats who are old and rich.

Man the butthurt is strong and petty.
 
2009-03-26 5:55:53 PM  
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2009-03-26 5:56:26 PM  

Corvus: From their "plan":

With regard to entitlements, Republicans support the
notion that wealthy seniors like Warren Buffett and
George Soros can afford to pay $2 per day more for their
Medicare prescription drug coverage

WTF?!?! Bitter much? Lets just target out Democrats who are old and rich.

Man the butthurt is strong and petty.


Wow! That is some weak fark right there. This is the Budget of Wharrgarble Party for sure.
 
2009-03-26 5:56:53 PM  

krelborne: What is it about the words "blueprint" and "wait until next week" that you find so hard to understand?


I'll tell you this much ... he said "wait until next week" because he doesn't have a farking clue what the answer to the question is.
 
2009-03-26 5:57:46 PM  
From the "plan":

The Republican budget ends this failed bailout strategy
by refusing to assume additional spending for bailouts.


You mean the one BUSH created?!?!?!
 
2009-03-26 5:57:50 PM  

PascalsGhost: LOL, what an idiot. I feel bad for you that you are so invested in your "team" that you even have to defend the absurdly undefensable.


Dude, you're one of the most partisan hacks in this place. If there's anyone who's invested in a team, it's you. And you tend to be a jackass about it. An amusing jackass at times, but a jackass nonetheless.

I'm not defending it; I called it stupid.

Ignoring context to create a false reality is one of the most obvious and common political games around.
 
2009-03-26 5:57:52 PM  
This is a happy day
 
2009-03-26 5:58:03 PM  

krelborne: And you're doing it, too. What is it about the words "blueprint" and "wait until next week" that you find so hard to understand?


So then he was lying when he said "Two nights ago, the president said we haven't seen a budget yet of the Republicans," said House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio). "Well, it's not true, because here it is Mr. President."

So, take your pick: A lie either way.
 
2009-03-26 5:58:12 PM  

h8_u_2: Corvus: From their "plan":

With regard to entitlements, Republicans support the
notion that wealthy seniors like Warren Buffett and
George Soros can afford to pay $2 per day more for their
Medicare prescription drug coverage

WTF?!?! Bitter much? Lets just target out Democrats who are old and rich.

Man the butthurt is strong and petty.

Wow! That is some weak fark right there. This is the Budget of Wharrgarble Party for sure.


Christ, I missed that. Is that really freakin in there?
 
2009-03-26 5:58:27 PM  

Antonio_Talibanderas:

In short, this is what Sarah Palin would look like if she were a PDF document.


Having worked in magazine publishing and various creative departments, I wonder if they didn't give this one to the interns - to write and design!

Seriously, ouch. Sounds like what you write in a high school lit paper to fill out the four page requirement after you ran out of content on page two:


In addition to securing our nation's major entitlements,
by enacting common-sense reforms and weeding out
waste, fraud, and abuse, Republicans propose to undo the
recent reckless and wasteful Democrat spending binge
included in the so-called "stimulus" and omnibus bills. In
addition, Republicans would cut overall nondefense
spending by reforming or eliminating a host of wasteful
programs deemed ineffective by various government
entities. And Republicans would fully fund our ongoing
commitments overseas while devoting the entirety of any
savings from reduced fighting to deficit reduction,
rebuilding our military, and funding our commitment to
our veterans.


Wow. I mean, great. And by saying that I will win a gold medal in high dive by practicing diving and going to the olympics does not make it so. This is fluff. This would be fine if it were coming from a candidate during an election, because it gives an overview of broad goals and ideals. But it is a joke coming from elected officials in a time of actual crisis when real numbers and plans are being called for.

We the people are fighting for our livelihoods and - in some real cases - our lives. We don't need partisan nose-thumbing like this right now, from either side.
 
2009-03-26 5:58:28 PM  

krelborne: pixistick: krelborne: The "defense" of this is just explaining what it is: a blueprint. It's stupid, but it's not the budget. The "multi-hundred-page" budget's due to be released next week, according to House Repubs.

Then why did John Boehner say "Obama said we didn't have a budget, here it is" and hold this up?

Ooooh, you got him! He called it a budget! He never used the word outline or blueprint in that particular sentence! No backsies!


Even if you use the word blueprint it doesn't make sense. It's more like a cartoon outline than a blueprint or a budget.
 
2009-03-26 5:59:23 PM  
So I went to my professor and said "Two nights ago, you said you haven't seen my overdue final paper. Well, it's not true, because here it is Mr. Professor."

I then waved a thin document at him and said "here's a blueprint of my paper, I'll have some detail next week."

Then for some strange reason he said "That's not a paper you idiot, you're getting an F in my class and if I could I'd give you an F in English as well for that nonsensical statement. Now get the fark out of my office." and I couldn't for the life of me figure out why.

Why yes, I am a republican, why do you ask?
 
2009-03-26 5:59:37 PM  
That's just sad.
 
2009-03-26 5:59:38 PM  

h8_u_2: Wow! That is some weak fark right there. This is the Budget of Wharrgarble Party for sure.


Come on stop being cynical, don't you think Soros and Buffet paying $2 a day more will pull us out of our medicare crisis?

The whole "plan" is almost all attacks on Democrats. 3/4 of it is just attacks.
 
2009-03-26 5:59:39 PM  
I'd say that I'm surprised they didn't use wider margins and bump the font a notch to stretch it into an even 20 pages, but with all the images I think it would have just made it look funny.
 
2009-03-26 5:59:42 PM  

krelborne: Dude, you're one of the most partisan hacks in this place. If there's anyone who's invested in a team, it's you. And you tend to be a jackass about it. An amusing jackass at times, but a jackass nonetheless.


LOL, ok dickweed.

I'm not defending it; I called it stupid.

Sure you did.

Ignoring context to create a false reality is one of the most obvious and common political games around.

And nobody ignored any context here. You are full of shiat.
 
2009-03-26 6:00:12 PM  

DamnYankees: This is a real chart from the budget:

Link (new window)


I hope they're not really trying, because if they are, the laziness and stupidity that represents makes me fear for the future of this country.
 
2009-03-26 6:02:10 PM  

PascalsGhost: And nobody ignored any context here. You are full of shiat.


Yeah, I've heard you say that before. You have no argument, so you just claim the othe person is full of shiat. And if you Ctrl+F "stupid", you'll see that I did call it that. So not only are you ignoring what Boehner said to concoct a bunch of horseshiat, you are ignoring what I said, too. Bite me, jackass.
 
2009-03-26 6:02:21 PM  
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2009-03-26 6:02:28 PM  

Corvus: From their "plan":

With regard to entitlements, Republicans support the
notion that wealthy seniors like Warren Buffett and
George Soros can afford to pay $2 per day more for their
Medicare prescription drug coverage

WTF?!?! Bitter much? Lets just target out Democrats who are old and rich.

Man the butthurt is strong and petty.


So they're fine with raising the cost of health insurance for people of all income levels, but vehemently opposed to raising taxes on just the wealthy.
 
2009-03-26 6:03:54 PM  

krelborne: So not only are you ignoring what Boehner said


Speaking of ignoring what Boehner said:

"Two nights ago, the president said we haven't seen a budget yet of the Republicans," said House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio). "Well, it's not true, because here it is Mr. President."
 
2009-03-26 6:05:11 PM  

Corvus: From their "plan":

With regard to entitlements, Republicans support the
notion that wealthy seniors like Warren Buffett and
George Soros can afford to pay $2 per day more for their
Medicare prescription drug coverage

WTF?!?! Bitter much? Lets just target out Democrats who are old and rich.

Man the butthurt is strong and petty.


Wait, did they just come out in favor of the rich paying more for something than the non-rich? What's next, supporting higher taxes for the wealthy because they can afford it?

Or maybe "wealthy senions like Warren Buffett and George Soros" only means they want to rich non-republicans pay more.

Oh wait, I forgot that selling out stated core principles just to take a cheap shot at the opposition is the actual GOP platform.
 
2009-03-26 6:05:19 PM  

krelborne: PascalsGhost: And nobody ignored any context here. You are full of shiat.

Yeah, I've heard you say that before. You have no argument, so you just claim the othe person is full of shiat. And if you Ctrl+F "stupid", you'll see that I did call it that. So not only are you ignoring what Boehner said to concoct a bunch of horseshiat, you are ignoring what I said, too. Bite me, jackass.


What context was ignored? Give it to me and I'll simply apologize. What did Boehner say that makes this less of a joke?

You do realize that even Republicans are currently arguing among themselves cause they know it was horrible and Pence was afool to throw it out already, right?

Seriously, give it to me and I apologize.
 
2009-03-26 6:06:06 PM  
I came in here to make a comment about how we need to get back to pay-as-you-go.. got knocked on my ass by some flowchart humor. It's like fark and xkcd merged for one glorious thread.
 
2009-03-26 6:06:26 PM  
Will someone please remind me of the last time our Senate and Congressional representatives actually represented our best interests. Someone voted for these putzes.
Please stop that.
 
2009-03-26 6:06:41 PM  
Wow did "Fark independents" write this?


But the failure of
government policy and the market distortions it caused
are the seeds of the crisis. Although well-intended, the
federal government unintentionally contributed to the
housing bubble by promoting home ownership for people
that could not afford it through the Community
Reinvestment Act (CRA). CRA was enacted in 1977 to
encourage banks and thrifts to help meet the credit needs
of their communities, including low- and moderate-
income neighborhoods. But CRA has encouraged banks
to make risky loans, contributing to the record
foreclosures that have roiled mortgage markets and the
larger economy.



Yeah too bad MOST lending institutions that went under were not commercial banks or thrifts and were not under CRA. And CRA forces no bank to make a risky loan.

Even the Bush treasury department said it CRA loans had nothing to do with it.
 
2009-03-26 6:07:50 PM  

ChancesAre910: thomps: Adjective Bird Whiskey: I don't trust white people or their budgets.

then you'll love the republican party. it's led by a black guy and an indian, and instead of a budget they have a crayon drawing of a bald eagle high-fiving jesus.

Where can I buy my bald eagle high-fiving Jesus t-shirt?


late to the party and this has probably already been posted but I have to...

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2009-03-26 6:08:32 PM  

Thrag: Wait, did they just come out in favor of the rich paying more for something than the non-rich? What's next, supporting higher taxes for the wealthy because they can afford it?

Or maybe "wealthy senions like Warren Buffett and George Soros" only means they want to rich non-republicans pay more.


Well they also want to cap the top bracket to 25% percent in their "plan" so when the rich pays $2 a day more they would be getting millions from taxes.
 
2009-03-26 6:08:35 PM  
So I called the power company and told them: "You said two nights ago I hadn't paid my bill. Well, it's not true because here it is!"

-waves picture of mocked up sample check-

"This is what my payment will look like. Next week I might actually have some money."

"Hey, why are you turning off my service?"
 
2009-03-26 6:08:51 PM  

krelborne: What is it about the words "blueprint" and "wait until next week" that you find so hard to understand?


Ok, I'm calling your bluff. What exactly did Mr. Boehner mean when he held this document up and said "here it is" in regard to the lack of a budget?

It's like if I say "hey Krel, I can't find the broom" and you hold up a turnip and say "here it is!" then act surprised that people are laughing at you.
 
2009-03-26 6:08:59 PM  

Obdicut: krelborne: So not only are you ignoring what Boehner said

Speaking of ignoring what Boehner said:

"Two nights ago, the president said we haven't seen a budget yet of the Republicans," said House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio). "Well, it's not true, because here it is Mr. President."


I already addressed this. You might as well call "no backsies" it's so childish. "Oops, Boenher once referred to the blueprint without saying that it was only the blueprint".

Seriously, ignoring context is one of the oldest tricks in the book.
 
2009-03-26 6:09:11 PM  

orezona: late to the party and this has probably already been posted but I have to...


No, that's quite good. I'd expect the GOP to steal that and throw it on the cover of the actual budget, and not the "blueprint."
 
2009-03-26 6:09:42 PM  
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2009-03-26 6:10:24 PM  
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2009-03-26 6:10:42 PM  
Epic thread
 
2009-03-26 6:10:42 PM  
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2009-03-26 6:11:24 PM  

orezona: ChancesAre910: thomps: Adjective Bird Whiskey: I don't trust white people or their budgets.

then you'll love the republican party. it's led by a black guy and an indian, and instead of a budget they have a crayon drawing of a bald eagle high-fiving jesus.

Where can I buy my bald eagle high-fiving Jesus t-shirt?

late to the party and this has probably already been posted but I have to...


Not only are you the first, but I don't anticipate seeing a better one.
 
2009-03-26 6:11:45 PM  
Also when people say it is "18 pages" that is VERY generous. It has a cover sheet and many pages are just a title and a short paragraph and all the rest of the pages are half graphics. Then out of that most of it is just complain about Democrats and Obama.
 
2009-03-26 6:11:52 PM  
When this thread loaded I had to wait for all the images to load. I was wondering "why are there so many images in a flamewar thread?"

But it is epic!
 
2009-03-26 6:12:00 PM  

krelborne: Obdicut: krelborne: So not only are you ignoring what Boehner said

Speaking of ignoring what Boehner said:

"Two nights ago, the president said we haven't seen a budget yet of the Republicans," said House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio). "Well, it's not true, because here it is Mr. President."

I already addressed this. You might as well call "no backsies" it's so childish. "Oops, Boenher once referred to the blueprint without saying that it was only the blueprint".

Seriously, ignoring context is one of the oldest tricks in the book.


LOL, again, I feel bad you are this much of a sheep. Its honestly all the right has left. I mean, if you can't man up and laugh at this one and say "Man, this was politically a disaster", you are one lost dude.


MUST...DEFEND...JOHN...BOENHER..AGAINST...LIBRUL...REALITY!!!

Kill yourself.
 
2009-03-26 6:12:15 PM  

RevMercutio: Not only are you the first, but I don't anticipate seeing a better one.


Well, like my quick and dirty blank, it matches the tone of the "blueprint."
 
2009-03-26 6:13:02 PM  

krelborne: I already addressed this. You might as well call "no backsies" it's so childish. "Oops, Boenher once referred to the blueprint without saying that it was only the blueprint".


Did Obama say, "We haven't seen a budget blueprint yet of the Republicans?"

No. He said that he hadn't seen a budget.

So Boehner is lying when he says "Here it is, Mr. President". Or he's really, really, really stupid.

Is there anything about that you find untrue or illogical?
 
2009-03-26 6:13:29 PM  
The lack of FARK IndependentsTM here rivals that of thread about the republican state senator that mocked the retarded kid's email. Well, discounting the "teleprompter" and "you took Boerner's 'here's my budget' statement out of context" idiots, of course.

Raise your hand if you're surprised by this.
 
2009-03-26 6:13:57 PM  

SeismicJizzer:

Seriously I would have been fired from my job if I came up with something like this.



Obviously you don't work in HR.
 
2009-03-26 6:13:59 PM  
Why are all the Fark Independents hiding in other threads?
 
2009-03-26 6:15:38 PM  

krelborne: Seriously, ignoring context is one of the oldest tricks in the book.


I'll outline the context for you since you seem to have a blind spot.

Context:

"Two nights ago, the president said we haven't seen a budget yet of the Republicans," said House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio)."

Somebody is ignoring context here. But it's not who you think it is.
 
2009-03-26 6:15:43 PM  

Lord_Baull: The lack of FARK IndependentsTM here rivals that of thread about the republican state senator that mocked the retarded kid's email. Well, discounting the "teleprompter" and "you took Boerner's 'here's my budget' statement out of context" idiots, of course.

Raise your hand if you're surprised by this.


If I would've seen this I wouldn't have posted my little question.
 
2009-03-26 6:15:55 PM  

Corvus: Also when people say it is "18 pages" that is VERY generous. It has a cover sheet and many pages are just a title and a short paragraph and all the rest of the pages are half graphics. Then out of that most of it is just complain about Democrats and Obama.


I have a word doc open where I pasted the text and have been cutting out anything that is directly negative toward the Democrats.

It's leaving a lot of very short phrases about what the Republicans actually want to do. And those phrases repeat a lot.

If I hadn't lost interest and quit already, I'd say it's probably more like three 12-point text pages of real content once you nix the biatching and repetition.
 
2009-03-26 6:16:08 PM  

PascalsGhost: krelborne: Obdicut: krelborne: So not only are you ignoring what Boehner said

Speaking of ignoring what Boehner said:

"Two nights ago, the president said we haven't seen a budget yet of the Republicans," said House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio). "Well, it's not true, because here it is Mr. President."

I already addressed this. You might as well call "no backsies" it's so childish. "Oops, Boenher once referred to the blueprint without saying that it was only the blueprint".

Seriously, ignoring context is one of the oldest tricks in the book.

LOL, again, I feel bad you are this much of a sheep. Its honestly all the right has left. I mean, if you can't man up and laugh at this one and say "Man, this was politically a disaster", you are one lost dude.


MUST...DEFEND...JOHN...BOENHER..AGAINST...LIBRUL...REALITY!!!

Kill yourself.


If the voice of reason sounds like a partisan sheep to you, perhaps you need to take a break from politics for a while. Jackass.
 
2009-03-26 6:16:42 PM  

h8_u_2: Why are all the Fark Independents hiding in other threads?


Some things are just too damn hard to troll.
 
2009-03-26 6:17:15 PM  

h8_u_2: Why are all the Fark Independents hiding in other threads?


Because they aren't the Republican shills you make them out to be and this really is a stupid move by the Republicans to act like they have their shiat together when they are really just stalling?
 
2009-03-26 6:17:26 PM  

h8_u_2: Why are all the Fark Independents hiding in other threads?


H8_u_2 claims he hasn't seen any of the Fark Independents.

John Boehner holds up a can of Beef-a-Roni and says "here they are!"

I guess we'll have to wait until next week.
 
2009-03-26 6:17:35 PM  
Blueprint?!?!?!!? bwhahahahha. Wow. That is pathetic.

A bucket of Reagan's entrails would be more of a blue print than that fluff.


/and this thread is hilarious
 
2009-03-26 6:17:35 PM  
The table of contents for the President's budget:

* President's Message (4 pages, 73 KB)

* Inheriting a Legacy of Misplaced Priorities (12 pages, 163 KB)
* Jumpstarting the Economy and Investing for the Future (26 pages, 239 KB)
* Conclusion (2 pages, 45 KB)

* Department of Agriculture (6 pages, 174 KB)
* Department of Commerce (2 pages, 99 KB)
* Department of Defense (4 pages, 86 KB)
* National Intelligence Program (2 pages, 75 KB)
* Department of Education (4 pages, 109 KB)
* Department of Energy (4 pages, 80 KB)
* Department of Health and Human Services (4 pages, 108 KB)
* Department of Homeland Security (2 pages, 78 KB)
* Department of Housing and Urban Development (4 pages, 89 KB)
* Department of the Interior (4 pages, 96 KB)
* Department of Justice (2 pages, 210 KB)
* Department of Labor (4 pages, 98 KB)
* Department of State and Other International Programs (4 pages, 134 KB)
* Department of Transportation (2 pages, 87 KB)
* Department of the Treasury (2 pages, 72 KB)
* Department of Veterans Affairs (2 pages, 111 KB)
* Corps of Engineers - Civil Works (2 pages, 98 KB)
* Environmental Protection Agency (4 pages, 91 KB)
* National Aeronautics and Space Administration (2 pages, 88 KB)
* National Science Foundation (2 pages, 80 KB)
* Small Business Administration (2 pages, 92 KB)
* Social Security Administration (2 pages, 72 KB)
* Corporation for National Community Service (2 pages, 78 KB)

* Summary Tables (22 pages, 138 KB)

* Presentation and Technical Changes (7 pages, 44 KB)


64 pages of actual budget, 42 pages of "I didn't do it," 24 pages of summaries and conclusions, 7 pages of nothing.

That's about $62,500,000,000 per page. Statistically indistinguishable from the Republicans'.
 
2009-03-26 6:18:07 PM  
h8_u_2 2009-03-26 06:15:43 PM
If I would've seen this I wouldn't have posted my little question.

Your question remains valid. Perhaps Krelborne can explain it to you.

/context
 
2009-03-26 6:18:15 PM  
People:

This is what you get when you convince yourself that PR is equivalent (or superior) to policy.

GOP: The all-PR party. It's PR all the way down!
 
2009-03-26 6:19:16 PM  

satanorsanta: In case you didn't read the original pdf here are some real gems


As brilliant as you Farkers are, nothing is as funny as the original.
 
2009-03-26 6:19:29 PM  
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2009-03-26 6:19:30 PM  

gallo caldo: Statistically indistinguishable from the Republicans


Keep the faith!
 
2009-03-26 6:19:43 PM  
This turned out to be an exceptionally bad move for the GOP, because it called attention to how unrealistic their call for "fiscal responsibility" really is in this economic climate.

Nice one, GOP. Thanks.
 
2009-03-26 6:19:59 PM  
krelborne 2009-03-26 06:16:08 PM
If the voice of reason sounds like a partisan sheep to you, perhaps you need to take a break from politics for a while. Jackass.

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2009-03-26 6:20:00 PM  

h8_u_2: Why are all the Fark Independents hiding in other threads?


There really isn't any way to defend this thing.

There really, really isn't.
 
2009-03-26 6:20:25 PM  

gallo caldo: That's about $62,500,000,000 per page. Statistically indistinguishable from the Republicans'.


The Republicans haven't submitted a budget yet, so what do you mean by "indistinguishable from the Republicans'? The Republican's what?
 
2009-03-26 6:20:29 PM  
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2009-03-26 6:20:29 PM  

Mosey: h8_u_2: Why are all the Fark Independents hiding in other threads?

Because they aren't the Republican shills you make them out to be


I'm not so sure.

I'm going with the comment above yours, some things are too hard to troll.
 
2009-03-26 6:20:32 PM  
Time to go...UBER MEME!

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2009-03-26 6:20:33 PM  

Obdicut: krelborne: I already addressed this. You might as well call "no backsies" it's so childish. "Oops, Boenher once referred to the blueprint without saying that it was only the blueprint".

Did Obama say, "We haven't seen a budget blueprint yet of the Republicans?"

No. He said that he hadn't seen a budget.

So Boehner is lying when he says "Here it is, Mr. President". Or he's really, really, really stupid.

Is there anything about that you find untrue or illogical?


More than who said what, is the content of this 18 page spin... There is not one new idea in this booklet of fail. The Repugnant-cons are not just the party of no, but truly the party of no ideas... Morons!
 
2009-03-26 6:21:18 PM  

gallo caldo: 64 pages of actual budget, 42 pages of "I didn't do it," 24 pages of summaries and conclusions, 7 pages of nothing.

That's about $62,500,000,000 per page. Statistically indistinguishable from the Republicans'.


And yes his has numbers and proposals, unlike the Republicans'!
 
2009-03-26 6:21:28 PM  

krelborne:

If the voice of reason sounds like a partisan sheep to you, perhaps you need to take a break from politics for a while. Jackass.


LOL, dude, your reasoning is hampered by Boenher's dick.
 
2009-03-26 6:22:38 PM  

Lord_Baull: The lack of FARK IndependentsTM here rivals that of thread about the republican state senator that mocked the retarded kid's email. Well, discounting the "teleprompter" and "you took Boerner's 'here's my budget' statement out of context" idiots, of course.

Raise your hand if you're surprised by this.


No, they skipped the "innocent people in Gitmo" thread as well. Cowards.
 
2009-03-26 6:23:28 PM  

gallo caldo: 64 pages of actual budget, 42 pages of "I didn't do it," 24 pages of summaries and conclusions, 7 pages of nothing.


This may be true, but it doesn't mean the GOP "blueprint" isn't laughable. I am not really sure what they thought they were gaining. Nearly every story in the press is about how part's Obama's own party is changing, re-writing, disagreeing with and screaming about the budget. The rest of the stories are about how friggen huge it is and the Democrats did actually control Congress the last to years so they can't say "this isn't our fault."

In other words, the Obama budget was getting enough negative press and push back based on it's own weight. This "blueprint" takes all the focus off that and on to how bad it is.

It is like the guy you hate at school is drunk and throwing up in the corner and to try and make him look worse you pee your pants in the other corner.
 
2009-03-26 6:24:29 PM  
B..b..but, teleprompter!!
 
2009-03-26 6:24:43 PM  

krelborne: If the voice of reason sounds like a partisan sheep to you, perhaps you need to take a break from politics for a while. Jackass.


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2009-03-26 6:24:55 PM  
Epic thread.

I should not be able to read a 'budget' during a smoke break.

/Not that I smoke.
//Anymore.
///OK, slashies done.
 
2009-03-26 6:25:17 PM  
Hender

Ce n'est un pas modele.

clapclapclapclapclap

awesome job from all you guise.
 
2009-03-26 6:25:40 PM  

WaltzingMathilda: krelborne: What is it about the words "blueprint" and "wait until next week" that you find so hard to understand?

I'll tell you this much ... he said "wait until next week" because he doesn't have a farking clue what the answer to the question is.


Remember when, with MUCHO bravado, Kevin Federline put out a rap album? Remember how it was universally mocked? And remember how - in response - he claimed it was meant as a joke and his **REAL** album was gonna 'blow everyone away'...?

....But then there was no REAL album...?

It's like that.
 
2009-03-26 6:26:18 PM  
Ok, that pdf someone linked above is tragic.

There just can be no way a nationally recognized party with the resources they have thought this was a good layout and idea.

I hope they are ready for a week of independents, Democrats, and even some Republicans lambasting them for such a transparent attempt at "see, we aren't the party of no, so there!"
 
2009-03-26 6:26:36 PM  

God's Hubris: B..b..but, teleprompter!!



I don't think you're allowed under copyright laws to copy and paste the whole platform like that without attribution.
 
2009-03-26 6:27:15 PM  

krelborne: If the voice of reason sounds like a partisan sheep to you, perhaps you need to take a break from politics for a while. Jackass.


You aren't a voice of reason. You are repeatedly bleating about "context" when all the context is right there. The Republicans attempted to hold this up as equal to the President's budget in moral force and intellectual crunch. They failed. And now you're butthurt about it because your team is lacking in intellectual heft and anything remotely resembling reasonable policy prescriptions for the next decade. Get the fark over it.
 
2009-03-26 6:27:41 PM  

RainDawg: krelborne: Seriously, ignoring context is one of the oldest tricks in the book.

I'll outline the context for you since you seem to have a blind spot.

Context:

"Two nights ago, the president said we haven't seen a budget yet of the Republicans," said House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio)."

Somebody is ignoring context here. But it's not who you think it is.


Man, I'm facepalming hard.

"Two nights ago the president said, 'We haven't seen a budget yet out of Republicans.' Well, it's just not true because -- Here it is, Mr. President," said House Minority leader Rep. John Boehner, as he held up a booklet that he said was a "blueprint for where we're going."

[...]

Asked where the cuts would be coming from, Boehner said, "We'll wait and see next week."


House GOP offers budget blueprint but scant detail
Republicans said more details will be out next week as the party offers an alternative promising spending amounts, revenue levels and the size of the budget deficit in a more traditional format.

House Republicans today outlined how they would write the federal budget if they controlled Congress

Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.
 
2009-03-26 6:27:48 PM  

DeadZone: Time to go...UBER MEME!


Hyper-meme!

I'm reaching, though.

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2009-03-26 6:28:01 PM  
Antonio_Talibanderas 2009-03-26 06:25:40 PM
Remember when, with MUCHO bravado, Kevin Federline put out a rap album? Remember how it was universally mocked? And remember how - in response - he claimed it was meant as a joke and his **REAL** album was gonna 'blow everyone away'....But then there was no REAL album...?

It's like that.



GOP: The Kevin Federline of Politics



Now that's a tshirt I would pay for.
 
2009-03-26 6:29:08 PM  

krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.


So he lied when he said "here it is, Mr. President".
 
2009-03-26 6:29:49 PM  
Karma Curmudgeon 2009-03-26 06:26:36 PM
God's Hubris: B..b..but, teleprompter!!

I don't think you're allowed under copyright laws to copy and paste the whole platform like that without attribution.


My mistake.
B..b..but, teleprompter!!®
 
2009-03-26 6:30:32 PM  
Three puny circles is a budget? I think we should have something like this:
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2009-03-26 6:31:22 PM  

Snarfangel: Three puny circles is a budget? I think we should have something like this:


Dude, that's against the teachings in the Bible!
 
2009-03-26 6:31:25 PM  
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2009-03-26 6:31:48 PM  

krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.


We're not--it's just the way Boehner delivered his speech that it made it sound like he did.
 
2009-03-26 6:31:49 PM  

krelborne: ...Man, I'm facepalming hard...


Good, saves the rest of us the trouble of slapping you ourselves
 
2009-03-26 6:32:29 PM  
Also, if that is a Blueprint, then my scribblings on the back of a Denny's placemat are The Mona Lisa
 
2009-03-26 6:32:30 PM  

gallo caldo: The table of contents for the President's budget:

* President's Message (4 pages, 73 KB)

* Inheriting a Legacy of Misplaced Priorities (12 pages, 163 KB)
* Jumpstarting the Economy and Investing for the Future (26 pages, 239 KB)
* Conclusion (2 pages, 45 KB)

* Department of Agriculture (6 pages, 174 KB)
* Department of Commerce (2 pages, 99 KB)
* Department of Defense (4 pages, 86 KB)
* National Intelligence Program (2 pages, 75 KB)
* Department of Education (4 pages, 109 KB)
* Department of Energy (4 pages, 80 KB)
* Department of Health and Human Services (4 pages, 108 KB)
* Department of Homeland Security (2 pages, 78 KB)
* Department of Housing and Urban Development (4 pages, 89 KB)
* Department of the Interior (4 pages, 96 KB)
* Department of Justice (2 pages, 210 KB)
* Department of Labor (4 pages, 98 KB)
* Department of State and Other International Programs (4 pages, 134 KB)
* Department of Transportation (2 pages, 87 KB)
* Department of the Treasury (2 pages, 72 KB)
* Department of Veterans Affairs (2 pages, 111 KB)
* Corps of Engineers - Civil Works (2 pages, 98 KB)
* Environmental Protection Agency (4 pages, 91 KB)
* National Aeronautics and Space Administration (2 pages, 88 KB)
* National Science Foundation (2 pages, 80 KB)
* Small Business Administration (2 pages, 92 KB)
* Social Security Administration (2 pages, 72 KB)
* Corporation for National Community Service (2 pages, 78 KB)

* Summary Tables (22 pages, 138 KB)

* Presentation and Technical Changes (7 pages, 44 KB)

64 pages of actual budget, 42 pages of "I didn't do it," 24 pages of summaries and conclusions, 7 pages of nothing.

That's about $62,500,000,000 per page. Statistically indistinguishable from the Republicans'.


Y'mean the one that doesn't even have numbers in it? Just vague promises they have no plans of fulfilling?

Not unlike John McCain's secret plan to capture bin Laden, eh?
 
2009-03-26 6:32:48 PM  

Obdicut: krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.

So he lied when he said "here it is, Mr. President".


See you just don't get it, when he said "here it is Mr. President" he meant "here it is Mr. President, but only read it next week."

Context shouldn't be ignored
 
2009-03-26 6:32:49 PM  

krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.


So you're getting closer to acceptance. Why did Boehner stand up and wave his thing in the air in response to Obama's comments (hint: context) if he didn't actually have a budget?
 
2009-03-26 6:33:47 PM  

God's Hubris: B..b..but, teleprompter!!


"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning"
George W Bush, January 11, 2000
 
2009-03-26 6:33:49 PM  
Pork? (new window)
 
2009-03-26 6:34:20 PM  

krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.


Yes, when Boehner called it a budget he was indeed way off base, as made clear by his immediate backpedaling.

His statement is so chock full of retard it's amazing you have wasted whatever credibility you might have once had on attempting to defend it. He clearly implied it was a budget and that somehow presenting it now made Obama wrong two days ago when he said they had not presented anything yet. His instant hypocritical backpedaling saying "blueprint" after his "In your face Obama! Here's our budget" start is just pure comedy.

But please, continue to defend the indefensible with your utter misunderstanding of simple concepts like context.
 
2009-03-26 6:34:28 PM  
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2009-03-26 6:34:39 PM  

Obdicut: krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.

So he lied when he said "here it is, Mr. President".


Sure, fine, he's a liar and a doodyhead. One might claim that he misspoke, but we'll go with "liar" if that makes you happy. That doesn't change what the facts are surrounding this document and the future document.
 
2009-03-26 6:34:57 PM  

SeismicJizzer: See you just don't get it, when he said "here it is Mr. President" he meant "here it is Mr. President, but only read it next week."

Context shouldn't be ignored


Maybe it's supposed to go:

Obama: Where's your budget?
Boehner: Here it is!
Obama: Where?
Boehner: Next week!

Get it? It's camp! The republicans have embraced their ridiculousness, and are camping it up. I think it's adorable.
 
2009-03-26 6:35:06 PM  

Hender: RevMercutio: Not only are you the first, but I don't anticipate seeing a better one.

Well, like my quick and dirty blank, it matches the tone of the "blueprint."


unlike the "blueprint", your blank is actually useful.
 
2009-03-26 6:35:21 PM  

IXI Jim IXI: Adjective Bird Whiskey: I don't trust white people or their budgets.

Being part Native American, I've learned to distrust such blanket statements...


Small pox?
 
2009-03-26 6:35:33 PM  

krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.


Thanks man. This thread wouldn't be complete without someone like you. Well done, and as full of fail as Boehner himself.
 
2009-03-26 6:35:44 PM  

krelborne:
Man, I'm facepalming hard.

"Two nights ago the president said, 'We haven't seen a budget yet out of Republicans.' Well, it's just not true because -- Here it is, Mr. President," said House Minority leader Rep. John Boehner, as he held up a booklet that he said was a "blueprint for where we're going."

[...]


Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.


Boehner is the one who called it a budget, effectively. Yes, he admitted it was only a blueprint, because he had to (and it's really not even that). But Boehner said "here it is, Mr. President." He equated his "blueprint" with a budget. It went like this:
Prez: The GOP doesn't have a budget.
GOP: That's a lie! We have this! *waves blueprint*

How do you not get that?
 
2009-03-26 6:35:55 PM  

Hender:
Have a fast and dirty blank, then.


Thanks!

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Go with the flow
It is said
That if you can't groove to this
Then you probably are dead
 
2009-03-26 6:36:51 PM  

krelborne: Obdicut: krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.

So he lied when he said "here it is, Mr. President".

Sure, fine, he's a liar and a doodyhead. One might claim that he misspoke, but we'll go with "liar" if that makes you happy.


How is it not a lie? Why must we still excuse a lack of honesty? Is it because he's a Republican?
 
2009-03-26 6:37:56 PM  

Corvus: Also when people say it is "18 pages" that is VERY generous. It has a cover sheet and many pages are just a title and a short paragraph and all the rest of the pages are half graphics. Then out of that most of it is just complain about Democrats and Obama.


And tomorrow they will still have no clue they are the laughing stock of the country.
 
2009-03-26 6:38:05 PM  

krelborne: Sure, fine, he's a liar and a doodyhead. One might claim that he misspoke, but we'll go with "liar" if that makes you happy. That doesn't change what the facts are surrounding this document and the future document.


The facts are that Obama asked the republicans to produce a budget, or rather, criticized them for not having done so.

Boehner then announced that it wasn't true they didn't have a budget-- because here one was!

Then it turned out it wasn't a budget.

Then he said there would be a budget next week.

When you say "Well, it's just not true because -- Here it is, Mr. President," you should probably not be lying yourself. It kind of looks weird.
 
2009-03-26 6:38:21 PM  
Thank god the Republicans aren't in the White House. Thank god McCain didn't win. Holy lord. What an embarrassment this "budget" is. What a joke.

/awesome thread, I love you Fark
 
2009-03-26 6:38:54 PM  

krelborne: That doesn't change what the facts are surrounding this document and the future document.


Yes, and those facts are that the document is not a budget. Boehner was making a really weak lie when he did his "here it is" line. The GOP still has not presented a budget. The "future document" by nature of its non-existence is not a budget (maybe it will be one day, but here in present reality, it is not). The GOP despite it's clear lying that it now has presented a budget, has not actually presented a budget or anything even close to resembling one. Glad we can agree to recognize these basic facts.

Heck, that document isn't even the blueprint he claims it to be. It's at best a talking point memo with circles.
 
2009-03-26 6:39:25 PM  

Obdicut: Get it? It's camp! The republicans have embraced their ridiculousness, and are camping it up. I think it's adorable.


heh well we got a great thread out of it so all wasn't lost.
 
2009-03-26 6:41:45 PM  
Republicans are very good at complaining they are just not good at governing.
 
2009-03-26 6:42:32 PM  

krelborne: Obdicut: krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.

So he lied when he said "here it is, Mr. President".

Sure, fine, he's a liar and a doodyhead. One might claim that he misspoke, but we'll go with "liar" if that makes you happy. That doesn't change what the facts are surrounding this document and the future document.


The reason people are mocking him, this document, and the Republicans in general is that they were slated as the party of no ideas, to which they responded with a document that contains exactly no ideas. They staged a media event to present their 'plan' as a rebuttal. Their plan is a perfect example of why they're called the party of no ideas. That's the context, and that's why we're having fun mocking it.

If/when they actually present a budget plan that we can review that contains numbers and projections we'll analyze that for it's objective worth. Until then, they are performing theater just like the caricatures they've been described as.
 
2009-03-26 6:42:32 PM  
This thread is everything that is great about fark all at once.

Some of you farkers are really funny.
 
2009-03-26 6:43:20 PM  

RevMercutio: krelborne: Obdicut: krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.

So he lied when he said "here it is, Mr. President".

Sure, fine, he's a liar and a doodyhead. One might claim that he misspoke, but we'll go with "liar" if that makes you happy.

How is it not a lie? Why must we still excuse a lack of honesty? Is it because he's a Republican?


Yes, that's it. It's because he's a Republican. It's because I suck Boehner's cock. Mmmmmm, delicious. I must have voted for Bush twice and wrote him in a third time, I'm soooooo very right wing.

Or it could be that it's because it's one statement out of many, and any reasonable person could determine from his statements that it was really not the full budget and he knew that the budget details would be out next week. Key word being "reasonable".
 
2009-03-26 6:45:25 PM  
This thread is pure win. I love how even the Republicans are so ashamed of this that only a couple of them came in, and none of the big Repub defenders dared say anything.
 
2009-03-26 6:45:49 PM  
If you're going to put forward a budget proposal then maybe you should, y'know, put forward a budget proposal.
 
2009-03-26 6:47:11 PM  

RevMercutio:
Not unlike John McCain's secret plan to capture bin Laden, eh?


That's exactly what it is.

Once they reveal their budget plan, they are screwed. It's gonna be more of the same.

Tax cuts for the wealthy, drilling in ANWR, spending cuts for everything except the military, more restrictions on medical malpractice lawsuits, continued bank bailouts under the guise of homebuyer/homeowner incentives. (In short, they will subsidize refis and new home purchases in order to get money to the banks - that way they don't have to call them bailouts.)

And that's it.
 
2009-03-26 6:47:11 PM  

GAT_00: This thread is pure win. I love how even the Republicans are so ashamed of this that only a couple of them came in, and none of the big Repub defenders dared say anything.


there's nothing to defend. The Republicans themselves didn't put forward anything at all. just a slick advertising package with little detail and a lot of flashy ads.
 
2009-03-26 6:47:14 PM  
We are here in Washington, D.C. to address problems. So I've set this goal for the country. We want 5.5 million more homeowners by 2010 -- million more minority homeowners by 2010. (Applause.) Five-and-a-half million families by 2010 will own a home. That is our goal. It is a realistic goal.

Bush 2002 - http://www.hud.gov/news/speeches/presremarks.cfm

If Republicans think CRA was so bad how come they don't remember this goal from the "ownership society".
 
2009-03-26 6:47:19 PM  
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2009-03-26 6:48:25 PM  
"There's one more picture of a windmill than there are charts of numbers. And there's exactly one picture of a windmill." - Robert Gibbs
 
2009-03-26 6:48:46 PM  

krelborne: Or it could be that it's because it's one statement out of many, and any reasonable person could determine from his statements that it was really not the full budget and he knew that the budget details would be out next week. Key word being "reasonable".


You're completely missing the point of our humor. The fact that you're so adamantly defending him is only mildly amusing, but it's this fictionalized exchange we find so deliciously humorous:

Boehner: "The President said two days ago that he hadn't seen our budget, well, here it is!"

*pulls thin sheet of paper from behind his back, holds it up proudly*

*crickets*

Press Corps: "Where is it? Behind that pamphlet?"

Boehner: "No no, the budget's still coming. This is the outline of the budget!"

Press Corps: "So what's in it?"

Boehner: "Not much, you'll just have to wait until next week. It's going to be SO MUCH BETTER than Obama's budget!"
 
2009-03-26 6:49:09 PM  

Weaver95: there's nothing to defend. The Republicans themselves didn't put forward anything at all. just a slick advertising package with little detail and a lot of flashy ads.


When does having nothing to defend ever stop them?
 
2009-03-26 6:49:51 PM  
 
2009-03-26 6:50:28 PM  
I've never done a national budget, however, a lot of Republicans have been there a long time and they have.

How hard would it have been to take the Obama budget, cross this out, add this in, go back to some old ones and add some of your own pork etc... throw it in excel and call it a real blueprint with numbers and some semblance of a plan.

Line 3302: $14 million for green housing improvement
GOP: cut that to 4

Line 3303: $24 million for budget for Head Start
GOP: make that $26 million.

"our budget saved 8 million..."

/wipe hands on pants, repeat for every line in the budget.
 
2009-03-26 6:50:44 PM  
Weaver95: there's nothing to defend. The Republicans themselves didn't put forward anything at all. just a slick advertising package with little detail and a lot of flashy ads.

The Repub defenders on here will defend anything a Repub does. That leads me to believe that even they are embarrassed by this abortion of a plan.
 
2009-03-26 6:50:46 PM  
maybe they should ask that 13 year old what a conservative would do.
 
2009-03-26 6:51:37 PM  

toonz: maybe they should ask that 13 year old what a conservative would do.


that kid was freaky.
 
2009-03-26 6:51:50 PM  
Obama is crazy. Sinking three trillion dollars into the economy is just going to cause inflation. We should cut three trillion dollars in taxes.

Because if rich people have an extra three trillion, they will totally pay for food and health care for poor people.

Why don't these socialists realize that?
 
2009-03-26 6:51:58 PM  

krelborne: RevMercutio: krelborne: Obdicut: krelborne: Seriously guys, those of you calling it the budget are way off base.

So he lied when he said "here it is, Mr. President".

Sure, fine, he's a liar and a doodyhead. One might claim that he misspoke, but we'll go with "liar" if that makes you happy.

How is it not a lie? Why must we still excuse a lack of honesty? Is it because he's a Republican?

Yes, that's it. It's because he's a Republican. It's because I suck Boehner's cock. Mmmmmm, delicious. I must have voted for Bush twice and wrote him in a third time, I'm soooooo very right wing.

Or it could be that it's because it's one statement out of many, and any reasonable person could determine from his statements that it was really not the full budget and he knew that the budget details would be out next week. Key word being "reasonable".


The reason we shouldn't give Boehner a break is because he actually accused Obama of saying something untrue, which something was manifestly true. Had Boehner not said "that's not true," regarding Obama's statement that the Republicans had failed to produce their own budget, then maybe we could give him a break. But since he decided to be a dick about it, why should we give him the benefit of the doubt?

The "that's not true" carries with it the necessary implication that what he was producing was a budget. That's the essential contradiction in your argument. You'd see that if you weren't a partisan hack.
 
2009-03-26 6:52:31 PM  

IXI Jim IXI: Here's the kind of logic Boehner's using...

"Two nights ago the president said, 'We haven't seen a budget yet out of Republicans.' Well, it's just not true because -- Here it is, Mr. President,"


Exactly. What they should have been then, they'll pretend to be now.
 
2009-03-26 6:52:57 PM  
I lost it when I got to the page with the picture of money on it.

I have no idea why. Something about that in the context of their rah-rah "plan" is just hilarious to me.
 
2009-03-26 6:55:19 PM  
I don't think the Republicans want to have a real conversation about the budget. What they should do is have a closed door sit down meeting with EVERY Republican member of congress and they all agree to completely drop all pork barrel spending. Then dare the Democrats to do the same.

*sigh*

But they won't do it. They'll keep spending money and running their protection rackets.
 
2009-03-26 6:55:53 PM  
I just wanted to post something so I can say was a part of this thread.

Im laughing so hard snot came out my nose.
 
2009-03-26 6:56:36 PM  

Antonio_Talibanderas: Tax cuts for the wealthy, drilling in ANWR, spending cuts for everything except the military, more restrictions on medical malpractice lawsuits, continued bank bailouts under the guise of homebuyer/homeowner incentives. (In short, they will subsidize refis and new home purchases in order to get money to the banks - that way they don't have to call them bailouts.)

And that's it.


I hate to tell you, but the Democrats aren't much except "the opposite of that." Nothing in Obama's budget is a "new idea" it is the same ideas they haven't had a turn to try and pass (and for that matter the stimulus bill). They won, they get to boost their pet projects. That is how it works.

It isn't like there is anything revolutionary going on here. Just the other guys are saying "no, do the opposite" than we had the last few years.

Seriously, what was the last really original idea in American politics? Possibly "Contract with America" but that was still more marketing and packaging. Social Security? Louisiana Purchase? Emancipation Proclamation? (that last one wasn't really an original idea either, it had been around for decades).

Nothing goes from "oh damn do I have a great idea" to law in anything less than a decade or two in the US. It is just a matter of who gets first dibs on making those laws, funding those projects and saying "all the other guys do is biatch and trot out the same shiat."

/PATRIOT ACT?
 
2009-03-26 6:56:40 PM  

GAT_00: That leads me to believe that even they are embarrassed by this abortion of a plan.


They're probably waiting to get their opinion from Fox News or Limbaugh or whoever programs them.
 
2009-03-26 6:57:42 PM  

Weaver95: If you're going to put forward a budget proposal then maybe you should, y'know, put forward a budget proposal.


A bunch of posts ago the Weaver95 said, 'If you're going to put forward a budget proposal then maybe you should, y'know, put forward a budget proposal.' Well, it's just not true because -- Here it is, Mr. Weaver95:

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It's a blueprint for where we're going.
 
2009-03-26 6:58:20 PM  
from Politico: (new window)

"In his egocentric rush to get on camera, Mike Pence threw the rest of the Conference under the bus, specifically Paul Ryan, whose staff has been working night and day for weeks to develop a substantive budget plan," said a GOP aide heavily involved in budget strategy.

"I hope his camera time was gratifying enough to justify erasing the weeks of hard work by dozens of Republicans to put forth serious ideas," the person added.


and

Cantor and Ryan were reportedly "embarrassed" by the document -- believing it was better to absorb a week of hits from Democrats than to be slammed for failing to produce a thoughtful and detailed alternative.

The goal, aides say, was to make Obama's team eat their words by producing a "killer" alternative with far less spending and greater tax cuts.


Good luck with that boys
 
2009-03-26 6:59:00 PM  

Corvus: Stupid Democrats coming up with all these health care plans that cost money. They should just say it already exists instead and then it's all free!


Sad thing is, they already do. "We already have universal health care: Emergency rooms cannot turn anyone away!" is their mantra.
 
2009-03-26 6:59:14 PM  
I'm an MPA student and if I turned this in as my work I would expect to fail.
 
2009-03-26 6:59:40 PM  

Weaver95: GAT_00: This thread is pure win. I love how even the Republicans are so ashamed of this that only a couple of them came in, and none of the big Repub defenders dared say anything.

there's nothing to defend. The Republicans themselves didn't put forward anything at all. just a slick advertising package with little detail and a lot of flashy ads.


If it were slick marketing, we'd have

REPUBLIBUDGETTM, now with miracle tax cut XK9*!

*Some studies suggest that a budget rich in tax cuts may reduce the risk of some kinds of recession.
For external use only. Void where prohibited. If recession asks more than 24 months, consult an economist.
 
2009-03-26 7:00:18 PM  
Has anyone pointed out that everyone pictured in the PDF is a white person with the possible exception of the homeless bum sleeping in the street?
 
2009-03-26 7:01:01 PM  

Mosey: I hate to tell you, but the Democrats aren't much except "the opposite of that." Nothing in Obama's budget is a "new idea" it is the same ideas they haven't had a turn to try and pass (and for that matter the stimulus bill). They won, they get to boost their pet projects. That is how it works.


Democrats have had full control of government for 2 years since 1980. They haven't really had a chance to implement their ideas. So the complaint that these aren't new is rather silly.
 
2009-03-26 7:01:36 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Has anyone pointed out that everyone pictured in the PDF is a white person with the possible exception of the homeless bum sleeping in the street?


You're a racist, and your comment is yet another pristine example of the systematic oppression of the white male, America's number one minority.
 
2009-03-26 7:03:17 PM  
bah, lasts, not asks. I was trying to hurry up the thread. Too many pictures. :)
 
2009-03-26 7:03:20 PM  

Weaver95: I don't think the Republicans want to have a real conversation about the budget. What they should do is have a closed door sit down meeting with EVERY Republican member of congress and they all agree to completely drop all pork barrel spending. Then dare the Democrats to do the same.


Do you honestly think there are more than two or maybe three people in the Republican party that really-and-truly oppose pork barrel spending?
 
2009-03-26 7:03:33 PM  
Oh, for FARKS sake. The Republican party is the most re-god-damn-diculous pile of fail and stupid I've ever seen.

Anyone who thought this was anything less than idiocy bordering on psychosis should be spat upon by random passerby.
 
2009-03-26 7:04:07 PM  

Weaver95: I don't think the Republicans want to have a real conversation about the budget. What they should do is have a closed door sit down meeting with EVERY Republican member of congress and they all agree to completely drop all pork barrel spending. Then dare the Democrats to do the same.

*sigh*

But they won't do it. They'll keep spending money and running their protection rackets.


That would be awesome, and I'd care a lot more about it if it were more than ~2% of the budget. But it would be a good gesture to start with at least.

My contention with the Republican platform is the 'tax cuts solve everything' myth. This started roughly in the sixties when Republicans were actually conservative. They decided that, politically, they were too weak to enforce spending limits so they decided to use tax cuts as a wedge issue to get into office. They fully realized that it would cause large deficits, they just didn't care because they figured once they were in office they could reduce spending and everything would be great. This problem started with Republicans rationalizing their political agenda as a feasible economic policy. That's what happened to Reagan and G.H.W.B. During Clinton's presidency some level of sanity was restored. Then Bush 2 took over and it's gone completely to shiat.

I'd still like to have a discussion with someone regarding progressive taxation versus flat/consumption tax and how they effect wealth condensation.
 
2009-03-26 7:04:12 PM  

Mosey: Antonio_Talibanderas: Tax cuts for the wealthy, drilling in ANWR, spending cuts for everything except the military, more restrictions on medical malpractice lawsuits, continued bank bailouts under the guise of homebuyer/homeowner incentives. (In short, they will subsidize refis and new home purchases in order to get money to the banks - that way they don't have to call them bailouts.)

And that's it.

I hate to tell you, but the Democrats aren't much except "the opposite of that." Nothing in Obama's budget is a "new idea" it is the same ideas they haven't had a turn to try and pass (and for that matter the stimulus bill). They won, they get to boost their pet projects. That is how it works.

It isn't like there is anything revolutionary going on here. Just the other guys are saying "no, do the opposite" than we had the last few years.

?


That's the dumbest post of the day. Seriously. I mean, you may HATE what is in the budget and think its the end of the world, but to deny its revolutionary or new is absurd.
 
2009-03-26 7:05:47 PM  

Mosey:

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ftfy
 
2009-03-26 7:06:20 PM  
Why is everyone complaining about the lack of detail? It's not like Congress actually reads legislation before voting on it. Or is that only Democrat-sponsored bills?