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(Tacoma News Tribune)		Driver found drunk, unconscious, blocking traffic lane, and carrying a badge (thenewstribune.com)		52
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CheddarPants

2009-03-07 7:25:47 PM

.18, and he was passed out? Wuss.

sullyman

2009-03-07 7:32:03 PM

A survey of court records shows Fleig was cited for drunken driving in 2002 in Pierce County. He received a deferred sentence, stipulating no further violations for five years.

His second one. Surprised they give deferred adjudication for DWI. Is that just reserved for cops because they wouldn't give it to me for a 45 in a 35 ticket?

boobsrgood

2009-03-07 7:59:27 PM

the horizontal gaze nystagmus test

Is that too long to be a Fark handle?

Oh, and what's with these cops? Aren't they supposed to, like, look the other way when it's one of their own or something? Is Washington still a part of the US?

TallyGirl

2009-03-07 7:59:53 PM

Sounds like the sheriff of Wakulla County, Florida except he just hit a car with a woman and her child, then drove home.

magtec

2009-03-07 8:01:18 PM

FTA: He has been placed on paid administrative leave, pending an internal investigation, sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said Friday.

what a crock.

YamChowder

2009-03-07 8:03:18 PM

Paid administative leave? That's bullshiat. He should have been fired outright.

MyRandomName

2009-03-07 8:04:05 PM

boobsrgood: the horizontal gaze nystagmus test

Is that too long to be a Fark handle?

Oh, and what's with these cops? Aren't they supposed to, like, look the other way when it's one of their own or something? Is Washington still a part of the US?

Wish I still had it... but google nystagmus test and there's a great transcript of a lawyer basically showing how the nystagmus test is not valid for cops. Was a great transcript.

12.fl.oz.

2009-03-07 8:04:50 PM

They should have turned the police dog loose on him.

pxlboy

2009-03-07 8:06:09 PM

this. i'm a little surprised. nevertheless, he still got off light. the rest of us would be in jail.

Mr_Master2

2009-03-07 8:12:44 PM

What other job lets you be charged with a dui and gives you a paid vacation? Cops really get to have their cake and eat it too.

FrancoFile

2009-03-07 8:15:04 PM

Mr_Master2: What other job lets you be charged with a dui and gives you a paid vacation? ~~Cops~~ Unionized government employees really get to have their cake and eat it too.

FTFY

chef_riggy

2009-03-07 8:23:00 PM

[image from g.imagehost.org too old to be available]

/stupid cop!

thelordofcheese

2009-03-07 8:24:45 PM

Was he hatless?

pxlboy

2009-03-07 8:25:28 PM

FrancoFile: Mr_Master2: What other job lets you be charged with a dui and gives you a paid vacation? Cops Unionized government employees really get to have their cake and eat it too.

FTFY

also this.

the rest of us, not so much.

CruiserTwelve

2009-03-07 8:25:42 PM

MyRandomName: Wish I still had it... but google nystagmus test and there's a great transcript of a lawyer basically showing how the nystagmus test is not valid for cops. Was a great transcript.

Actually the HGN test is a great indicator of intoxication when administered properly and taken as a whole with other indicators of intoxication. Yeah, defense attorneys will argue to the contrary because that's their job, but I've been using it since it was developed as a sobriety test and it's the most accurate test I've ever seen.

darthgarlic

2009-03-07 8:26:27 PM

They didn't Taser him? Oh I forgot he was a cop.

SmithHiller

2009-03-07 8:27:13 PM

I'm not drunk, officer. I'm a drunk officer.

antidisestablishmentarianism

2009-03-07 8:27:58 PM

MyRandomName: Wish I still had it... but google nystagmus test and there's a great transcript of a lawyer basically showing how the nystagmus test is not valid for cops. Was a great transcript.

here it is: Link (new window)

CruiserTwelve

2009-03-07 8:28:31 PM

Mr_Master2: What other job lets you be charged with a dui and gives you a paid vacation? Cops really get to have their cake and eat it too.

Well, the cake doesn't taste so good when it's served with a side of firin'.

He should have been gone after the first one.

Jgok

2009-03-07 8:30:34 PM

boobsrgood: the horizontal gaze nystagmus test

Is that too long to be a Fark handle?

Nope, I know of at least one farkette who has a handle five letters longer than that. Check the caturday thread and you'll see who I mean.

boobsrgood:
Oh, and what's with these cops? Aren't they supposed to, like, look the other way when it's one of their own or something? Is Washington still a part of the US?

Kind of hard to "look the other way" when he's blocking traffic, passed out, in a car that's still in gear, and is so drunk that he can't stand without assistance even after you wake him up. :P

YamChowder: Paid administative leave? That's bullshiat. He should have been fired outright.

They're probably putting him on paid leave because of that pesky little "innocent until proven guilty" thing. If he's still getting paid after being sentenced, then I'd get a bit annoyed.

Pud

2009-03-07 8:37:37 PM

chef_riggy: /stupid cop!

Is it ok if I borrow that picture ....that is awsome....

NakedDrummer

2009-03-07 8:38:47 PM

A survey of court records shows Fleig was cited for drunken driving in 2002 in Pierce County. He received a deferred sentence

FU #1.

The charge was dismissed in October 2007

FU #2.

Anyone not a cop or a judge would have gotten hit with a Felony for a 2nd DUI within 10 years. This guy will be back in his squad car driving to work drunk coming from some strip club in a couple weeks.

chef_riggy

2009-03-07 8:44:48 PM

Pud: chef_riggy: /stupid cop!

Is it ok if I borrow that picture ....that is awsome....

Copy it! Spread it! Here is the link.

http://g.imagehost.org/0049/ROFL2a.jpg

I'll post a hi-res one if you prefer.
Should I change the text layout?

/will customize for an internet beer

Pud

2009-03-07 8:47:46 PM

chef_riggy: Pud: chef_riggy: /stupid cop!

Is it ok if I borrow that picture ....that is awsome....

Pud: chef_riggy: /stupid cop!

Is it ok if I borrow that picture ....that is awsome....

Copy it! Spread it! Here is the link.

http://g.imagehost.org/0049/ROFL2a.jpg

I'll post a hi-res one if you prefer.
Should I change the text layout?

/will customize for an internet beer

+1 internet beer ....

CruiserTwelve

2009-03-07 8:49:29 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: here it is: Link (new window)

This defense attorney only shows the transcript of testimony of an officer that doesn't know much about nystagmus. Any cop that knows anything about it would have embarrassed that attorney in court. Most of his questions are based on lies and misinformation. Makes me wonder if that's a real transcript.

NakedDrummer

2009-03-07 8:55:28 PM

http://www.duiblog.com/2005/06/11/

CruiserTwelve:

Actually the HGN test is a great indicator of intoxication when administered properly and taken as a whole with other indicators of intoxication. Yeah, defense attorneys will argue to the contrary because that's their job, but I've been using it since it was developed as a sobriety test and it's the most accurate test I've ever seen.

http://www.duiblog.com/2005/06/11/

seems pretty subjective. though by the time the cops pull someone out of the car to administer sobriety checks, they have long since made the decision to arrest them already. the sobriety checks are just more fluff for the report - the cop will see what he wants to see.

It's Me Bender

2009-03-07 8:56:27 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: MyRandomName: Wish I still had it... but google nystagmus test and there's a great transcript of a lawyer basically showing how the nystagmus test is not valid for cops. Was a great transcript.

here it is: Link (new window)

Holy shiat that is epic. I hope if I'm ever charged with any crime, I can afford a lawyer that good.

Obviously he isn't a public defender, those guys are:
- not too competent
- not willing to put in the prep time needed to defend their client at trial.
- not willing to jeopardize their good working relationship with cops and prosecutors by aggressively cross-examining a cop.

chef_riggy

2009-03-07 8:59:33 PM

Pud: +1 internet beer ....

srsly, I was questioning the text layout. If u can suggest any improvement, or want a 2048 x 1442 res copy...

mpls55412

2009-03-07 9:05:42 PM

CheddarPants: .18, and he was passed out? Wuss.

came here for this and leaving satisfied.

was he 120 lbs?

CruiserTwelve

2009-03-07 9:06:32 PM

NakedDrummer: Anyone not a cop or a judge would have gotten hit with a Felony for a 2nd DUI within 10 years. This guy will be back in his squad car driving to work drunk coming from some strip club in a couple weeks.

Find me one state in this country where a second offense DUI within ten years is a felony. Heck, find me anywhere in this country where a second DUI is a felony at all.

About 1.4 million people are arrested for DUI every year. How many do you hear about? Almost none unless it's a cop or a celebrity.

Pud

2009-03-07 9:06:58 PM

chef_riggy: Pud: +1 internet beer ....

srsly, I was questioning the text layout. If u can suggest any improvement, or want a 2048 x 1442 res copy...

It works for me the way it is ...No need to improve it ...

CruiserTwelve

2009-03-07 9:10:54 PM

NakedDrummer: http://seems pretty subjective. though by the time the cops pull someone out of the car to administer sobriety checks, they have long since made the decision to arrest them already. the sobriety checks are just more fluff for the report - the cop will see what he wants to see.

In some cases yes, the cop already has reason to arrest the driver for DUI. In those cases the testing is just for confirmation and for evidentiary purposes. Many people, particularly those with a lot of drinking experience, are able to mask the effects of alcohol for the short period of time that they are in contact with the cop. In those cases the HGN test is great - it can't be controlled by the person so it can be very revealing about a persons state of intoxication.

Pechorin

2009-03-07 9:10:59 PM

I'm sure a police investigation will find no wrong doing on the officer's part.

CruiserTwelve

2009-03-07 9:14:14 PM

It's Me Bender: Holy shiat that is epic. I hope if I'm ever charged with any crime, I can afford a lawyer that good.

He isn't good. He just found a cop that didn't know what he was talking about. A good cop would have exposed the crap he was trying to imply through his questioning. You'll notice how much more specific his questions get when he realizes the cop doesn't know the answers. With most cops he would have quit that line of questioning early.

CruiserTwelve

2009-03-07 9:15:05 PM

Pechorin: I'm sure a police investigation will find no wrong doing on the officer's part.

It appears a police investigation is what got the officer arrested in the first place.

Smeggy Smurf

2009-03-07 9:16:21 PM

Don't worry, MADD will look the other way. Fascists have to look out for each other when there are still free people to oppress.

NakedDrummer

2009-03-07 9:28:02 PM

CruiserTwelve: NakedDrummer: Anyone not a cop or a judge would have gotten hit with a Felony for a 2nd DUI within 10 years. This guy will be back in his squad car driving to work drunk coming from some strip club in a couple weeks.

Find me one state in this country where a second offense DUI within ten years is a felony. Heck, find me anywhere in this country where a second DUI is a felony at all.

About 1.4 million people are arrested for DUI every year. How many do you hear about? Almost none unless it's a cop or a celebrity.

New York:
http://dui.drivinglaws.org/newyork.php

and there are stricter states than new york, google em up

SquintyKat

2009-03-07 10:30:20 PM

CruiserTwelve: NakedDrummer: http://seems pretty subjective. though by the time the cops pull someone out of the car to administer sobriety checks, they have long since made the decision to arrest them already. the sobriety checks are just more fluff for the report - the cop will see what he wants to see.

In some cases yes, the cop already has reason to arrest the driver for DUI. In those cases the testing is just for confirmation and for evidentiary purposes. Many people, particularly those with a lot of drinking experience, are able to mask the effects of alcohol for the short period of time that they are in contact with the cop. In those cases the HGN test is great - it can't be controlled by the person so it can be very revealing about a persons state of intoxication.

I agree. I have a brother who was pulled over more than once while drunk, talked with the officer, and was let go. You really couldn't tell he had been drinking.

/He doesn't drink and drive anymore

CruiserTwelve

2009-03-07 10:42:25 PM

NakedDrummer: New York:
http://dui.drivinglaws.org/newyork.php

and there are stricter states than new york, google em up

Very good. I didn't realize a second offense was a felony in NY.

This guy was arrested in Washington State though, and even a third offense is still a misdemeanor.

Here's the penalties in Washington State (new window)

Pumpernickel bread

2009-03-07 10:46:09 PM

Mr_Master2: What other job lets you be charged with a dui and gives you a paid vacation? Cops really get to have their cake and eat it too.

You seem surprised. If it can be shown the person is an alcoholic, the standard response from an employer is to offer treatment to the person after the first transgression and have progressively severe consequences afterwards (typically treatment 1st, suspension, and then termination). The reason for this is that alcoholism is covered by the Americans with Disabilities Act and an organization opens itself up to a lawsuit if they fire someonoe diagnosed as an alcoholic after a first transgression.

Now, if you aren't an alcoholic and you do something while drunk that is embarassing to the company, or get caught drunk on company time, the chances of you getting fired are greater than it is for a bona fide alcoholic.

bingethinker

2009-03-07 10:49:17 PM

The lying criminal douchebag is strong in this thread.

Mr_Master2

2009-03-07 11:35:17 PM

Pumpernickel bread: Mr_Master2: What other job lets you be charged with a dui and gives you a paid vacation? Cops really get to have their cake and eat it too.

You seem surprised. If it can be shown the person is an alcoholic, the standard response from an employer is to offer treatment to the person after the first transgression and have progressively severe consequences afterwards (typically treatment 1st, suspension, and then termination). The reason for this is that alcoholism is covered by the Americans with Disabilities Act and an organization opens itself up to a lawsuit if they fire someonoe diagnosed as an alcoholic after a first transgression.

Now, if you aren't an alcoholic and you do something while drunk that is embarassing to the company, or get caught drunk on company time, the chances of you getting fired are greater than it is for a bona fide alcoholic.

Was this cop proven to be an alcoholic? I doubt it. Oh, and this was not his first DUI. My original point stands.

sandi_fish

2009-03-07 11:51:55 PM

Dad?

Johnson

2009-03-08 12:10:11 AM

McNulty?

JamesLi

2009-03-08 12:36:28 AM

CruiserTwelve: Mr_Master2: What other job lets you be charged with a dui and gives you a paid vacation? Cops really get to have their cake and eat it too.

Well, the cake doesn't taste so good when it's served with a side of firin'.

He should have been gone after the first one.

This and pretty much every other post.

/Not really a reason for me to post when Cruiser is around

HamSlammer

2009-03-08 1:04:33 AM

The headline seemed completely unplausable until the badge part.

And-1

2009-03-08 1:24:45 AM

JamesLi: Not really a reason for me to post when Cruiser is around

You might need to stick up for each other.

Vio

2009-03-08 6:51:32 AM

The fact that this man didn't lose his job at the first offense is appaling. Now that he's being "investigated" and getting paid? That is completely rediculous!! Any other driver for any kind of company would be fired immediately! This man is held to a higher level. Not only is his job to uphold the law but it is to abide by the law too. They shouldn't just let it slide cause he's a 23 year veteran... He farked up, it was his choice, therefore farking fire his arse!!

freakymescan

2009-03-08 9:12:14 AM

I know someone who got rear ended by a drunk cop. Beer cans actually fell out of the cop car. His partner in the car got killed. The person I knew who this happened to got charged instead of the cop.

Didn't like the person, so I'm half and half on careing. But none the less, being a cop should not mean above and immuned to the law.

pxlboy

2009-03-08 12:10:03 PM

freakymescan: I know someone who got rear ended by a drunk cop. Beer cans actually fell out of the cop car. His partner in the car got killed. The person I knew who this happened to got charged instead of the cop.

Didn't like the person, so I'm half and half on careing. But none the less, being a cop should not mean above and immuned to the law.

the cop wasn't charged? unpossible!

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