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		Fact check: Why, there's actually no pork in Obama's stimulus bill. Oh, there's tons of lard, bacon, ham, sausage, crispers, ribs, shoulder butt and loins. But no actual pork (apnews.myway.com)		110
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bulldg4life

2009-02-09 11:55:51 PM

Calvin Woodward is working over time in that article.

furiousxgeorge

2009-02-10 12:07:43 AM

Bukharin

2009-02-10 12:25:34 AM

It's not 'obama's bill'
If you dont think your elected representatives are bought and paid for... except maybe Kuchinch and Bernie Sanders, you are kidding yourselves.

Bucky Katt

2009-02-10 12:27:40 AM

Bukharin: It's not 'obama's bill'
If you dont think your elected representatives are bought and paid for... except maybe Kuchinch and Bernie Sanders, you are kidding yourselves.

RON PAUL

HagarTheHorrible

2009-02-10 12:29:51 AM

Chitlins, Submitter, you forgot the chitlins.

Bucky Katt

2009-02-10 12:36:29 AM

HagarTheHorrible: Chitlins, Submitter, you forgot the chitlins.

and head cheese

FeedTheCollapse

2009-02-10 12:40:20 AM

I get it, it's funny because black people love their pork.

festus

2009-02-10 12:49:29 AM

We have four years of this guy proving himself. Pork, no pork, guy screws interns on the desk, or just does the job right and with honour ...

How about wait a bit and see how he does it?

You sorry sack of Republican schitt, submittard.

Sym_pathetic

2009-02-10 12:52:12 AM

FeedTheCollapse: I get it, it's funny because black people love their pork.

[image from upload.wikimedia.org too old to be available]

Swine's a filthy animal.

oldebayer

2009-02-10 1:00:15 AM

What part of the pig does "shoulder butt" come from, chopmitter?

Cubansaltyballs

2009-02-10 1:01:35 AM

I thought Muslims didn't like pork?

vartian

2009-02-10 1:15:56 AM

Thanks, furiousxgeorge.

You see that, cons? Want to stop the recession? Then you better start shelling out food stamps. That's right, you sanctimonious biatches...food stamps.

But that would, you know, feed poor people and all, and the Republicans certainly are against that. Jesus tells them so.

Aarontology

2009-02-10 1:24:47 AM

Cubansaltyballs: I thought Muslims didn't like pork?

It's all part of Obama's crafty ruse.

Cubansaltyballs

2009-02-10 2:21:14 AM

Aarontology: Cubansaltyballs: I thought Muslims didn't like pork?

It's all part of Obama's crafty ruse.

He's really going for the suspense on this one. I bet he'll keep up the charade until the last week of his presidency, then he'll give us one more head-fake... he'll do something tricky like telling us he's going to nuke the mid-east to get our support and send troops there, and at the last second nuke Israel instead.

Sensei Can You See

2009-02-10 3:02:23 AM

oldebayer: What part of the pig does "shoulder butt" come from, chopmitter?

pork shoulder = pork shoulder butt = pork blade shoulder Meat from this section is relatively fatty, which makes for juicy, tender, and flavorful roasts as well as clogged arteries. (new window)

steelpeg

2009-02-10 4:36:39 AM

Submitter, I thought what you did was humorous...but apparently you touched a nerve with some of our "sensitive" Farkers - if ya know what I mean....
Remember, the rule here now on Fark is that you must not joke or question the infallible Obama.

rackrent

2009-02-10 5:07:50 AM

The moniker of "pork" is outdated these days. Hell, improving U.S. 31 will create jobs....and for each job funded by the government, that will create more jobs.

/still looking to replace my 2nd job

gothelder

2009-02-10 5:07:56 AM

So they are not actually greenlighting any real news these days, just opinion articles?

FishStampede

2009-02-10 5:09:22 AM

oldebayer: What part of the pig does "shoulder butt" come from, chopmitter?

/google before you snark

Control_this

2009-02-10 5:16:21 AM

Headline made me hungry.

ragekage

2009-02-10 5:31:09 AM

Mmmm, bacon.

It's right, though. Just because I'm teetering on the edge between quitting school and being able to just eke by to get it done doesn't mean people could use some extra Pell funding. I mean, we don't really need any more nurses around, do we? And my 13-month old? Pfft, she should get a farking job if she wants food. I mean, if I was "personally responsible", I wouldn't have decided to go back to school conveniently when the credit markets decided to freeze halfway through my bachelor's degree, meaning there were no other sources of student loans available.

I'm sorry, Republican Jesus. Please forgive me.

apistat

2009-02-10 5:32:09 AM

So according to this author, any project that benefits a specific area or region is now considered wasteful pork? This is just ridiculous. The example that he and Obama use, improving roads and bridges near the city he was speaking in, is just one part of the huge amount of money in the bill dedicated towards improving infrastructure in places all across the country. That is NOT pork. Pork would be if their local congressman threw an earmark into a huge defense spending bill to do this.

Vertdang

2009-02-10 5:50:54 AM

ragekage: Mmmm, bacon.

It's right, though. Just because I'm teetering on the edge between quitting school and being able to just eke by to get it done doesn't mean people could use some extra Pell funding. I mean, we don't really need any more nurses around, do we? And my 13-month old? Pfft, she should get a farking job if she wants food. I mean, if I was "personally responsible", I wouldn't have decided to go back to school conveniently when the credit markets decided to freeze halfway through my bachelor's degree, meaning there were no other sources of student loans available.

I'm sorry, Republican Jesus. Please forgive me.

how dare you inconvenience the rich and the bankers with your needing things, your "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps", your "improving your lot in life", and your "getting an education to better yourself".

HOW DARE YOU!.

/going back to school soon too hopefully.
//NukeMed, if I can get a loan.

Descartes

2009-02-10 6:03:15 AM

2/10

ragekage

2009-02-10 6:09:27 AM

2 out of 10? Come on, I deserve more points than that, especially because that sentiment was expressed to me almost exactly recently by one of our friendly neighborhood Fark Independents. I mean, if I have to drop out and am saddled with student loan debt with no BSN, it's my fault because the bankers we paid a bajillion bucks to bailout won't write a goddamn student loan to anyone, even with a FICO score of 797

steelpeg

2009-02-10 6:19:55 AM

ragekage: ..And my 13-month old? Pfft, she should get a farking job if she wants food. I mean, if I was "personally responsible", I wouldn't have decided to go back to school conveniently when the credit markets decided to freeze...

Or maybe you could have been "personally responsible" by keeping your jeans zipped up until you had your schooling in and then had the baby when you could afford it.

Indis

2009-02-10 6:20:31 AM

ragekage: 2 out of 10? Come on, I deserve more points than that, especially because that sentiment was expressed to me almost exactly recently by one of our friendly neighborhood Fark Independents. I mean, if I have to drop out and am saddled with student loan debt with no BSN, it's my fault because the bankers we paid a bajillion bucks to bailout won't write a goddamn student loan to anyone, even with a FICO score of 797

You should have included CRA taking away money from the system.

Half point deduction.

drjekel_mrhyde

2009-02-10 6:21:54 AM

Bucky Katt: HagarTheHorrible: Chitlins, Submitter, you forgot the chitlins.

and head cheese

I been craving that for weeks

Zagloba

2009-02-10 6:29:25 AM

steelpeg: Or maybe you could have been "personally responsible" by keeping your jeans zipped up until you had your schooling in and then had the baby when you could afford it.

22 months ago he could afford it.

satanicsantoku

2009-02-10 6:50:04 AM

where were you clowns complaining about all this money when we, um, SPENT A TRILLION DOLLARS invading a sovereign nation that had done NOTHING to us (despite rhetoric), or when regressive tax cuts took almost another TRILLION dollars out of our tax rolls while increasing the national debt... how much?
S.T.F.U. You have no sense of relativity.
pathetic.

The Billdozer

2009-02-10 6:52:21 AM

vartian: Thanks, furiousxgeorge.

You see that, cons? Want to stop the recession? Then you better start shelling out food stamps. That's right, you sanctimonious biatches...food stamps.

But that would, you know, feed poor people and all, and the Republicans certainly are against that. Jesus tells them so.

I guess I can get pictures from freerepublic.com that show something to prove their viewpoint and it's 100% factual, right?

Blathering Idjut

2009-02-10 6:56:10 AM

The Billdozer: guess I can get pictures from freerepublic.com that show something to prove their viewpoint and it's 100% factual, right?

No, because freepers are certifiable so you really don't have a point.

Chart is based on a study by Moody's investors.

Sorry reality is so partisan.

lexslamman

2009-02-10 6:59:28 AM

Pork is earmarks amended to legislation by individual members of congress to 'bring home the bacon' in the form of government funds to their home districts. There are no earmarks on the stimulus bill, therefore there is no 'pork-barrel' spending here.

Unless you Republicans want to totally change the meaning of the metaphor, your argument against this bill is as meaningless as your rationale for war in Iraq.

Forecaster18

2009-02-10 7:01:04 AM

farking idiot.

Newsflash - THIS COUNTRY HAS shiat THAT NEEDS DONE. THAT shiat COSTS MONEY. WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THAT shiat FOR 30 YEARS!!!

This guy HAD to have been one of the farksticks that was all up in arms about how great it was that ol' Gee Dubya was givin' us our money back in 2001 (well, those of us who were wealthy, anyways), when we had the prospect of potentially PAYING DOWN THE NATIONAL DEBT.

This is what happens when you don't pay attention to critical infrastructure and chronically-underfunded agencies.farkING ASSHOLES.

that_other_internet

2009-02-10 7:01:11 AM

satanicsantoku: where were you clowns complaining about all this money when we, um, SPENT A TRILLION DOLLARS invading a sovereign nation that had done NOTHING to us (despite rhetoric), or when regressive tax cuts took almost another TRILLION dollars out of our tax rolls while increasing the national debt... how much?
S.T.F.U. You have no sense of relativity.
pathetic.

Meh, that's nothing. Where was the outcry over the 2.3 trillion that the DoD "misplaced"?

It's funny thinking that it took a relatively minor sum of 700 billion going to banks before so many people started giving a damn about spending.

CarnySaur

2009-02-10 7:16:12 AM

That reminds me, what's the deal with Fresh Ham? That's a deceptive piece of meat.

chipspastic

2009-02-10 7:29:57 AM

FTA: job creation numbers that may be impossible to verify

How about subtracting the before and after jobs numbers? That's how most administrations have done it.

SurfaceTension

2009-02-10 7:43:59 AM

No spam, though.

jpo2269

2009-02-10 7:52:20 AM

Mmmm, bacon.

It's right, though. Just because I'm teetering on the edge between quitting school and being able to just eke by to get it done doesn't mean people could use some extra Pell funding. I mean, we don't really need any more nurses around, do we? And my 13-month old? Pfft, she should get a farking job if she wants food. I mean, if I was "personally responsible", I wouldn't have decided to go back to school conveniently when the credit markets decided to freeze halfway through my bachelor's degree, meaning there were no other sources of student loans available.

I'm sorry, Republican Jesus. Please forgive me.

Focker?

MonkeyVegetables

2009-02-10 7:54:49 AM

i am glad all of a sudden everybody cares but where were you 10 years ago when we could of avoided this mess

DaSwankOne

2009-02-10 8:00:11 AM

I was actually starting to believe the Republican meme that there was a lot of pork spending in this bill. Now that I have read that they consider spending on roads in an infrastructure bill to be pork, I am starting to realize that I probably should not listen to them at all. I really did know better. Old habits are just hard to break.

HotWingConspiracy

2009-02-10 8:02:14 AM

Well this is going to be delicious, if nothing else.

PC LOAD LETTER

2009-02-10 8:07:23 AM

Democrat plan: pork
Republican plan: tax cuts for rich people
Libertarian plan: Do nothing, stock up on ammo and build a bunker

DarnoKonrad

2009-02-10 8:12:36 AM

Abuse of the word 'fact' is becoming obscene.

1. There's nothing factual about the word pork. It's a farking euphemism for 'spending I don't like'. And the shiat the AP listed sure is addressed by this statement:

"Why wouldn't we want to make that kind of investment?"

2. Two of his appointees, former Senate Democratic leader Tom Daschle for secretary of health and human services and Nancy Killefer as his chief compliance officer, dropped out after reports they had not paid a portion of their taxes.

Which is exactly what he said jerk off.

3. Job creation projections are uncertain even in stable times, and some of the economists relied on by Obama in making his forecast acknowledge a great deal of uncertainty in their numbers.

I'll let the Obama answer this one from the same press conference, addressing this very lie of omission.

"I don't have a crystal ball."

I hate the AP.

xtragrind

2009-02-10 8:23:53 AM

I can't believe he actually said there wasn't pork...

Maybe he didn't read the bill.

FlashHarry

2009-02-10 8:23:58 AM

republicans think all spending that isn't in their own district is pork. i swear, they really do want their names attached to a second great depression, too.

rathoth

2009-02-10 8:31:28 AM

rackrent: The moniker of "pork" is outdated these days. Hell, improving U.S. 31 will create jobs....and for each job funded by the government, that will create more jobs.

/still looking to replace my 2nd job

Nonono. The government just creates work, not jobs. At least that's the current Republican talking point. Video

DaSwankOne

2009-02-10 8:34:20 AM

xtragrind: I can't believe he actually said there wasn't pork...

Maybe he didn't read the bill.

Maybe you have no farking idea what pork is. Spending money on roads in an infrastructure bill is not pork. Creating government jobs in a jobs bill is not pork. If Republicans want to have a discussion on the role of government they can. We actually had this discussion for the last two years through a Presidential election and more people decided that we want the government to have more of a role. You lost. If our ideas are so horrible, then let us implement them and in 4 years you can run against us. Until then just STFU. We gave you 6 years of deregulation and privatization and it was an absolute failure. It was so bad that a jumbo size Bush budget could not keep things afloat.

GameSprocket

2009-02-10 8:34:38 AM

It is almost like the government is trying to spend a lot of money in a hurry to stimulate the economy, or something.

Where the hell are they supposed to spend the money that wouldn't be considered "pork"? This is like a giant version of Brewster's Millions.

DaSwankOne

2009-02-10 8:35:55 AM

rathoth: Nonono. The government just creates work, not jobs

If temporary work is not a job then we need to reset the unemployment rate to about 43%. About a third of workers are independent contractors.

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