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(Some Guy)   Experts discuss the feasibility of the technology shown on "24," including a single firewall protecting the whole government, whether a hacker could control airlines and why Jack can get cell phone coverage in a submarine   (infrastructurist.com) divider line
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Bored Horde
2009-02-03 3:47:20 PM  
The expert failed to mention that most utilities aren't even on the internet but rather a network not connected to any other computers.
 
lunchinlewis
2009-02-03 4:14:09 PM  
I liked how last night he was crawling around above the ceiling. ON the ceiling.
 
pfelon
2009-02-03 4:31:19 PM  
I would read it before my lunch break is over but I'm RUNNING OUT OF TIME
 
McCaesar [TotalFark]
2009-02-03 4:35:09 PM  
I stopped watching this season. Someone should change the password on the firewall.

/said it before.
 
FlashHarry [TotalFark]
2009-02-03 4:53:25 PM  
i watched the first two shows. i gave up after he drove a car through a concrete barricade at approximately 15 MPH.
 
EatHam [TotalFark]
2009-02-03 4:53:30 PM  

McCaesar: I stopped watching this season. Someone should change the password on the firewall.


Yeah really, and upgrade the firmware.
 
The Stealth Hippopotamus
2009-02-03 5:03:53 PM  
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Bloody Templar
2009-02-03 5:47:28 PM  
I watch that show for one reason and one reason only:

Kiefer Sutherland turns my wife on.
 
Uzzah
2009-02-03 5:52:47 PM  

McCaesar: I stopped watching this season. Someone should change the password on the firewall.


EatHam: Yeah really, and upgrade the firmware.


If they'd just re-route the sequencer on the encryption servers, we wouldn't be in this mess.

/also, their cables aren't straight, so all the 0s can slide through but the 1s are getting jammed up.
 
Cubist Robot Party
2009-02-03 5:54:00 PM  

Bored Horde: The expert failed to mention that most utilities aren't even on the internet but rather a network not connected to any other computers.


That's actually not as true as it used to be. A number of audits have found machines connected to both the public internet (usually though a NAT at least, but still) and to the SCADA systems, often without anything more than consumer OS's running.
 
Nameless_One
2009-02-03 5:54:20 PM  

Bloody Templar: I watch that show for one reason and one reason only:

Kiefer Sutherland turns my wife on.


There is something bad I could say but I will not go there since I am a polite man.
 
tlchwi02
2009-02-03 5:55:18 PM  

Bored Horde: The expert failed to mention that most utilities aren't even on the internet but rather a network not connected to any other computers.


the implication of hacking them is that someone has gotten access to their local system, usually by breaking in somewhere. They usually act like its going to be done via the big scary internet though.
 
tlchwi02
2009-02-03 5:56:48 PM  

Cubist Robot Party: That's actually not as true as it used to be. A number of audits have found machines connected to both the public internet (usually though a NAT at least, but still) and to the SCADA systems, often without anything more than consumer OS's running.


most of those systems aren't mission critical, for example opening the flood gates on most hydro plants isn't on a sophisticated enough machine to hack.

power grid controls on the other hand i think you do have more of a point
 
HighOnCraic
2009-02-03 5:58:59 PM  
If you're wondering how he eats and breathes
And other science facts,
Just repeat to yourself "It's just a show,
I should really just relax
 
TheSuperFunk
2009-02-03 6:00:16 PM  
I stopped watching when Jack did something totally unrealistic.

Then I remembered it was a TV show and that made it easier to wach... cos before I was really worried that terrorists were ACTUALLY attacking us.

...

Really, though... I find shows/writing to be MUCH more entertaining when the writers don't really have a clue what the real-life scenario would be or how it'd play out. That way, they're more focused on entertaining us... and not adhering to the real laws of anything.

Comedy especially suffers from too much knowledge on the subject. (unless you're ranting... even then).
 
Bonzo_1116
2009-02-03 6:10:00 PM  
Enhance!

Enchance!

ENHANCE, GODDAMNIT.

/shiat, I guess that doesn't really work with crappy webcams.
 
BornfromPain
2009-02-03 6:14:22 PM  
this season started off pretty good but slowly has died and gone down the crapper. Im only watching now because of Annie Wersching aka Renee Walker.
 
oldebayer
2009-02-03 6:16:20 PM  
A great deal of the stuff on this show, as on most tv shows, or in most movies, is preposterous. You really think a guy had his leg chomped off by a white Sperm Whale spent years and years seeking revenge on that same whale? In the real world, he'd be living in a shack in Montana.


FlashHarry

i watched the first two shows. i gave up after he drove a car through a concrete barricade at approximately 15 MPH.

If you are talking about the scene where he backed out of the parking garage through the wall, there's a lady in Ft. Lauderdale who did exactly that. She'd probably like to talk to you about it, but she did it from the fifth floor, and is unavailable for comment.

/I loved how he said, just before doing it, "This is going to hurt."
 
Mangoose [TotalFark]
2009-02-03 6:16:42 PM  
fark all you nerds and geeks. It's real to me. Now if you excuse me, I have a suspicious looking cab driver tied up.


I'm going to torture him.
 
cinterclawz
2009-02-03 6:18:33 PM  

Cubist Robot Party: Bored Horde: The expert failed to mention that most utilities aren't even on the internet but rather a network not connected to any other computers.

That's actually not as true as it used to be. A number of audits have found machines connected to both the public internet (usually though a NAT at least, but still) and to the SCADA systems, often without anything more than consumer OS's running.


i'm getting a kick out of these replies since i am working at a government facility right now.
 
Issor
2009-02-03 6:18:58 PM  
Hey, I took this pic from a disposable camera of someone 2000 feet away then scanned it with a 10 year old scanner, can you enhance it so that it's as if I'm 2 feet away with perfet clarity?


SURE!
 
Daroc
2009-02-03 6:25:01 PM  
Why do people watch this over glorified cell phone commercial?
 
howemi01
2009-02-03 6:40:24 PM  
It's great escapism. I don't let myself get bothered about most of the preposterous stuff, but really, it's not that big a deal. The only real thing that's bugged me so far this season is - why didn't they come up with a password for flight controllers to give to pilots so they'd know they were legit? As I said to a friend, the miraculous doesn't bother me, but the common sense stuff does.
 
WhyteRaven74
2009-02-03 6:41:13 PM  
Issor: SURE!

That's not unique to 24, that shiat has been pulled in more movies and TV shows than I can remember.
 
t3knomanser
2009-02-03 6:45:02 PM  
I haven't watched this season. I stopped watching with the whole "Audrey kidnapped by the Chinese" plot, because really- the show just stopped being funny anymore. The writers just ran out of jokes
- which is doubly embarrassing, because they have been recycling jokes since day one on that show.
 
carmody
2009-02-03 7:02:08 PM  
I don't understand the appeal of shows like this, and I am surprised every time I come across evidence that it is still on the air.
 
festus
2009-02-03 7:02:26 PM  
Needs more Kim, only without any dialogue ... and WITH her in sweaty, ripped up clothing, with heaving cleavage, tied up and about to be tortured by a guy who looks a lot like Peter North.
 
inglixthemad
2009-02-03 7:03:29 PM  

McCaesar: I stopped watching this season. Someone should change the password on the firewall.

/said it before.


Ever watch "Spooks" aka "MI-5"? Much better show, but even that is pretty bad with some of the stuff.

Daroc: Why do people watch this over glorified cell phone commercial?


Because they don't know any better. I have a cousin who is a US Marshal that really hates 3 shows:

1) 24
2) CSI
3) That USA show about US Marshals (this one is probably going to hit #1 at the next family reunion)

Movies he really hated:

1) US Marshals
2) Eraser
 
festus
2009-02-03 7:03:35 PM  

carmody: I don't understand the appeal of shows like this, and I am surprised every time I come across evidence that it is still on the air.


But you're OK with "Survivor: My Dank Basement", daytime TV, lame sitcoms, and most of the other stuff that's on TV?
 
TypoFlyspray
2009-02-03 7:06:53 PM  
I was in a directors meeting the day after the season started, and our head IT architect and our operations director and the manager of delivery were tearing it apart and laughing.

Never got in to 24. Never worked with my schedule. And since then I've stopped watching TV entirely.
 
kbarham
2009-02-03 7:08:32 PM  

festus: Needs more Kim, only without any dialogue ... and WITH her in sweaty, ripped up clothing, with heaving cleavage, tied up and about to be tortured by a guy who looks a lot like Peter North kbarham.


Fixed.
 
Hibno
2009-02-03 7:08:41 PM  
Even the good seasons of 24 have some stupid bullshiat in them. Like Terry getting amnesia and then getting over it a could hours later. And Kim almost getting attacked by a cougar. I am undecided on this season so far. It has been a little heavy-handed from the pro-torture angle, and the use of technology is absurd even by 24 standards.

I thought the show was going to change the format, but they just moved the farker to a new city and instead of CTU it is the FBI, and that bugs me the most.
 
festus
2009-02-03 7:25:04 PM  

kbarham: festus: Needs more Kim, only without any dialogue ... and WITH her in sweaty, ripped up clothing, with heaving cleavage, tied up and about to be tortured by a guy who looks a lot like Peter North kbarham.

Fixed.


You'd better be able to generate an equally impressive ... screen presence as Mr. North!
 
macdaddy357
2009-02-03 7:37:19 PM  
Anything related to computers, the Internet or any other high technology on the idiot box is bullshiat.
 
pudding7
2009-02-03 7:38:39 PM  
I've never seen the show, but is the premise for each season still just "one full day?" How is he doing all the stuff he does in one day? I would imagine any ride on a submarine is at least 6-8 hours, and that's probably just in and out of a harbor.
 
TheWizard
2009-02-03 8:01:11 PM  
Real life isn't 10% as interesting as even the most boring episode of 24.

Thankfully.

My biggest complaint about these shows is that they give the uneducated viewers the belief that our government does, or should, have this sort of capability. Both of which frighten me.
 
spesimen
2009-02-03 8:05:05 PM  

pudding7: I've never seen the show, but is the premise for each season still just "one full day?" How is he doing all the stuff he does in one day? I would imagine any ride on a submarine is at least 6-8 hours, and that's probably just in and out of a harbor.


they take some liberties with actual numbers but do generally still attempt to make it plausible. travel times are frequently used as a plot device. i don't think they are as finicky about it nowadays like they were in the earlier seasons.
 
AppleOptionEsc
2009-02-03 8:14:31 PM  
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it's like xkcd sees into the future for fark threads.
 
gregario
2009-02-03 8:28:14 PM  

Bloody Templar: I watch that show for one reason and one reason only:

Kiefer Sutherland turns my wife on.


This is basically the only reason I sit there with my wife as well. The show is incredibly stupid but it's one of her favorites.

/ugh.
 
Mentat [TotalFark]
2009-02-03 8:58:15 PM  
Chloe, I need to to hack into the Iranian government's web server and download the plans to their nuclear weapons production facility to my PDA. JUST DO IT CHLOE!
 
baorao
2009-02-03 9:11:13 PM  

lunchinlewis: I liked how last night he was crawling around above the ceiling. ON the ceiling.


no kidding. that wouldn't be loud at all.
 
Delawheredad
2009-02-03 9:12:32 PM  
My problem with the show has been pointed out endlessly but WHEN does this guy take a leak. 24 hours without a tinkle? Massive kidney damage!
 
Noah's Arcade
2009-02-03 9:41:55 PM  
I love 24 but this season is just pissing me off. The worst part is that my wife is insisting that we watch it week-to-week, whereas with all previous seasons we watched on DVD within a week or two each. It f*cking kills the pacing watching it once a week with commercials.

Here's what I don't like about this season: There's not a single likeable person on this f*cking show. Janeane Garafalo is no Chloe, and that douchebag who plays indie director Billy Walsh on Entourage is some asswipe analyst for the FBI. Has anyone actually watched him closely while he speaks? His mouth never moves! Ever!

The agent Walker character is just annoying, her FBI boyfriend is a douchebag tightass, the president is EXTREMELY unlikeable, as is everyone on her staff. And what the f*ck is with her husband? Colm Feore goes from being the bad guy in Chronicles of Riddick to the First Gentleman who looks like he's dying from AIDS. Are we really at the point where Jack is the ONLY likeable character left? Chloe hasn't done jackshiat this season, Buchanan is cool but needs to be involved more, and who knows where the f*ck they're going with Tony.

And usually I don't nitpick this show, but it would be nice to see them eat or drink water or piss every now and then. They don't have to stop at f*cking Arby's for lunch, but they could at least have a Snickers in the goddamn car or something.
 
aspAddict
2009-02-03 9:45:04 PM  

Mentat: Chloe, I need to to hack into the Iranian government's web server and download the plans to their nuclear weapons production facility to my PDA. JUST DO IT CHLOE!


Something something MY PDA something dowload something something to CHLOE something fist of angry god...

/Too late in the day to come up with cleverness
//But y'all know what I mean.
 
Rustem
2009-02-03 9:53:46 PM  

Bloody Templar: I watch that show for one reason and one reason only:

Kiefer Sutherland turns my wife on.


That must suck, dude.
 
betona
2009-02-03 9:55:27 PM  
Notice how Janis of the FBI easily pulled up the emergency valve operation manual for the chemical plant in Ohio last night? Because the FBI's computers have digital copies of all of the operational manuals for all of the manufacturing facilities, you know.
 
festus
2009-02-03 9:57:26 PM  

Noah's Arcade: It f*cking kills the pacing watching it once a week with commercials.


There are Torrents of ways to get around that.

Noah's Arcade: The agent Walker character is just annoying


Great rack and ass. Cute. You are gay.
 
voran
2009-02-03 10:19:27 PM  
I was mostly disappointed Carly Pope got killed. She's hawt. Nice bewbies too. She looks like she's dangerous in the bedroom.
 
wydok
2009-02-03 10:33:32 PM  
Yesterday's episode pissed me off. If the chemical plant is getting hacked and controlled from an outside source, then disable its Internet connection! WTF???
 
Mangoose [TotalFark]
2009-02-03 10:44:49 PM  

wydok: Yesterday's episode pissed me off. If the chemical plant is getting hacked and controlled from an outside source, then disable its Internet connection! WTF???


Because there wasn't enough time. Dammit.
 
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