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(Wall Street Journal)   The Opacity of Hope: Why Obama's going to really piss off almost everyone in the next six months   (online.wsj.com) divider line
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aden_nak
2009-01-20 1:29:42 PM  
He's been President for an hour. A farking hour.

Though I suppose, in all fairness, the WSJ's editorial staff has been a cabal of douchebags for YEARS.
 
Asa Phelps
2009-01-20 1:36:50 PM  
No matter how good of a job he does, a large percentage will remember his presidency as being worse than carter's. Guaranteed.
 
Marcus Aurelius [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2009-01-20 1:42:11 PM  
I WANT MY PONY NOW DAMNIT
 
The Stealth Hippopotamus
2009-01-20 1:45:19 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I WANT MY PONY NOW DAMNIT


You don't have yours yet?

/off to the feed store
 
JoeCowboy
2009-01-20 1:49:20 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Marcus Aurelius: I WANT MY PONY NOW DAMNIT

You don't have yours yet?

/off to the feed store


Got mine at noon

/off to the glue factory

JC
 
burndtdan
2009-01-20 1:50:21 PM  

Asa Phelps: No matter how good of a job he does,


the WSJ editorial board will tell us how bad he's really doing because they are driven by ideology rather than reality.
 
mryoop789
2009-01-20 1:51:30 PM  
wasn't a bad article
 
Occam's Chainsaw
2009-01-20 1:52:36 PM  
I wanna know if the Citizen's Briefing Book is going to vanish down the memory hole, seeing as the #1 issue, as voted by the citizens of this fair country: the end of the drug war and the decriminalization / legalization of marijuana.
 
KaponoFor3
2009-01-20 1:56:19 PM  

mryoop789: wasn't a bad article


My thoughts exactly. Even-handed. Good article.
 
oldfarthenry [TotalFark]
2009-01-20 1:57:29 PM  
As the lumberjack walks into the forest, one tree looks at the wooden handle of the axe and says to another `Oh good, he's one of us.'
 
GaryPDX
2009-01-20 1:58:11 PM  

aden_nak: He's been President for an hour. A farking hour.


Let me rephrase, The democrats own it all now, for an hour. In the age of fast food, fast wimmin, fast mortages, fast money, they better work fast.
 
Occam's Chainsaw
2009-01-20 1:59:42 PM  

GaryPDX: Let me rephrase, The democrats own it all now, for an hour.


'Cept for that pesky 3rd branch of government. That takes decades to pack.
 
GaryPDX
2009-01-20 1:59:45 PM  

Occam's Chainsaw: I wanna know if the Citizen's Briefing Book is going to vanish down the memory hole, seeing as the #1 issue, as voted by the citizens of this fair country: the end of the drug war and the decriminalization / legalization of marijuana.


It's being replaced by the Citizens Behavioral Handbook/Healthcare Benefits book.
 
Deeznutz
2009-01-20 2:01:25 PM  
Get out your wallets.
 
GanjSmokr
2009-01-20 2:06:25 PM  

JoeCowboy:
Got mine at noon

/off to the glue factory

JC


good luck getting a horse to eat glue.

wait... that's not right...
 
Yanks_RSJ
2009-01-20 2:06:52 PM  

burndtdan: Asa Phelps: No matter how good of a job he does,

the WSJ editorial board will tell us how bad he's really doing because they are driven by ideology rather than reality.


TFA: The complicated nature of our world means that every modern Presidency is to some extent a leap into the unknown. Mr. Obama's meteoric rise makes him a bigger leap than most. We don't know if he is a genuine man of the left, or a more traditional pragmatist. The audacity of our hope is that as President he will use his considerable talents to return his party to the policies of growth, opportunity and the vigorous defense of U.S. interests that marked it the last time the country had such great expectations for a Democratic President -- under JFK.

Yeah, what a hatchet job.

It seemed like a fair article about the challenges facing the incoming president. But I guess you would have had to read it to know.
 
KaponoFor3
2009-01-20 2:11:16 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: It seemed like a fair article about the challenges facing the incoming president. But I guess you would have had to read it to know.


Some people just have knee jerk reactions to certain sources -- WSJ, NewsMax, DailyKos, Crooks & Liars -- that they don't even read the linked article. It's a shame, because they might end up being surprised.
 
queezyweezel
2009-01-20 2:15:32 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I WANT MY PONY NOW DAMNIT


You don't have yours yet?

Off to start the pony show.
 
Rev.K [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2009-01-20 2:18:23 PM  
FTA:

For 25 years from the moment the Reagan policy mix took hold in 1983, the U.S. has had a run of economic expansion marred only by two mild recessions.

And one super gigantic one under the watch of one George W. Bush.

Our particular hope is that he will also find a way to take on the teachers unions as the main obstacle to inner-city opportunity.

The Right's favorite punching bag, teachers unions. Yep, they're the only problem with schools. Busting that union would surely skyrocket the grades of all American students overnight.

Whatever his mistakes in Iraq, George W. Bush's "surge" was a lonely call that has proven to be right.

Yes, lets flippantly cast aside that the war in Iraq is a terrible idea and never should have happened. 4 years after it started, George Bush did something that worked!

Meh.
 
KaponoFor3
2009-01-20 2:20:46 PM  

Rev.K: The Right's favorite punching bag, teachers unions. Yep, they're the only problem with schools. Busting that union would surely skyrocket the grades of all American students overnight.


If they had a hand in the tenure policies at most schools, then they are not the only problem, but they are the biggest. My best friend is a junior HS teacher, and once he has taught for 2 years he is basically un-fireable. It's sick, the administrator's hands are tied when it comes to releasing teachers who have checked out mentally a long, long time ago.
 
Gamer Grrrl
2009-01-20 2:20:50 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I WANT MY PONY NOW DAMNIT


The Stealth Hippopotamus: Marcus Aurelius: I WANT MY PONY NOW DAMNIT

You don't have yours yet?

/off to the feed store


queezyweezel: Marcus Aurelius: I WANT MY PONY NOW DAMNIT

You don't have yours yet?

Off to start the pony show.


HAHA you suckers settled for a pony! I got a pegasus, and I flew it to work this morning!
 
HoboSong
2009-01-20 2:21:57 PM  
So has the messiah fixed this country yet? SEE, told you he couldnt do it!
 
mjsee
2009-01-20 2:25:27 PM  
If "everyone" is angry...he's probably doing it right.
 
Nabb1
2009-01-20 2:29:11 PM  

mryoop789: wasn't a bad article


Yes, the headline grossly miss-characterized it.
 
Occam's Chainsaw
2009-01-20 2:33:00 PM  

KaponoFor3: If they had a hand in the tenure policies at most schools, then they are not the only problem, but they are the biggest. My best friend is a junior HS teacher, and once he has taught for 2 years he is basically un-fireable. It's sick, the administrator's hands are tied when it comes to releasing teachers who have checked out mentally a long, long time ago.


Gross underfunding, wholesale elimination of "non-core" education such as the arts and phys ed, and a methodology which discards critical thought for rote memorization and conformity, and you think tenure's the biggest problem in education?
 
Cyberluddite [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2009-01-20 2:37:01 PM  
Not a bad article by WSJ opinion piece standards. Other than stating certain WSJ-opinion-page-mantras as unassailable facts ("unions destroy jobs," "if taxes are increased we will all die"), the piece does a pretty good job of laying out the challenges Obama will face and the way he may or may not choose to face them.
 
Tigger
2009-01-20 2:43:11 PM  
Not a bad article by WSJ opinion piece standards.

That is like saying "not a bad first date by Ted Bundy standards".
 
KaponoFor3
2009-01-20 2:43:11 PM  

Occam's Chainsaw: Gross underfunding, wholesale elimination of "non-core" education such as the arts and phys ed, and a methodology which discards critical thought for rote memorization and conformity, and you think tenure's the biggest problem in education?


Yes, I do. Sorry you disagree. I think the best and easiest way to fix the education problem is to get rid of teachers that suck and don't care. As it stands now, they are almost impossible to fire and continue to contribute to the deterioration of the education system.
 
ScubaDude1960
2009-01-20 2:46:54 PM  
Remember the guy who said he was voting for Obama because people shouldn't have to worry about whether or not they can afford to fill their gas tanks? He's sure going to be mad when he finds out that there will be no Free Gas For Negroes program.
 
ihatedumbpeople
2009-01-20 3:18:56 PM  
I think they're just pointing out that so many people have wildly inaccurate expectations of what he can do.
 
Gosling
2009-01-20 3:20:40 PM  
The way it reads to me is something like "Come on, you can't be centrist forever! YOU MUST CHOOSE! FLAMING LIBERAL OR FLAMING NEO-CON, BUDDY, WHAT'S IT GONNA BE?!"
 
shirtsbyeric
2009-01-20 3:21:32 PM  
The ponies and unicorns have been backordered.
 
pootsie
2009-01-20 3:22:00 PM  
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The Why Not Guy
2009-01-20 3:23:57 PM  

ihatedumbpeople: I think they're just pointing out that so many people have wildly inaccurate expectations of what he can do.


I hate oversimplification, but I'd say the "I'm not saying Obama is the anti-Christ, but you never know" side is far wilder and far more inaccurate than the "Yes, We Can" side.
 
Hideously Gigantic Smurf
2009-01-20 3:24:16 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I WANT MY PONY NOW DAMNIT


What's wrong, couldn't find a date again?
 
tvjunkie1172
2009-01-20 3:25:24 PM  
How could he piss anyone off after that great Inaugural Speech. That was amazing.
 
Peter von Nostrand
2009-01-20 3:25:39 PM  
The same people that have been knob-gobbling W the last 8 years are now here to tell us how Obama is going to be bad. Well, I for one am shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
 
BuckTurgidson
2009-01-20 3:25:41 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Marcus Aurelius: I WANT MY PONY NOW DAMNIT

You don't have yours yet?

/off to the feed store


HA HA! You only got a pony. I got my unicorn already.

FYI: Unicorn farts aren't much better than plain old horse farts.

/off to Home Depot for spackle - horn holes everywhere.
 
Dinjiin [BareFark]
2009-01-20 3:26:08 PM  

mryoop789: asn't a bad article


Yes and no.

While it was basically a "don't stray too far to the left" message, they stupefied it with their standard "the left is going to tax you into poverty" Bogeyman argument.

Well, duh. We have a trillion dollar deficit. No kidding that taxes are going to go up, even if we do reduce spending (yeah, right). The interest on that crap is going to kill us.
 
ilambiquated
2009-01-20 3:28:29 PM  

Occam's Chainsaw: GaryPDX: Let me rephrase, The democrats own it all now, for an hour.

'Cept for that pesky 3rd branch of government. That takes decades to pack.


And the Senate
 
Komplex
2009-01-20 3:29:13 PM  

ihatedumbpeople: I think they're just pointing out that so many people have wildly inaccurate expectations of what he can do.


I think it's more like after the clusterfark of the last eight years, the minimal standards of competency has become "wildly inaccurate expectations"
 
ilambiquated
2009-01-20 3:30:05 PM  

Rev.K: 4 years after it started, George Bush did something that worked!


Except it didn't.
 
deeproy
2009-01-20 3:30:56 PM  
Didn't the WSJ use to report on business news? They really should go back to that.
 
Shaggy_C
2009-01-20 3:32:09 PM  
He did enough to win over the 'Angry Left' but he's not really going to do much to appease them, just as Bush didn't do much to help the 'Religious Right' other than telling them what they wanted to hear. He ran as a centrist, and I expect him to govern as such. That means excessive support for Israel, a continuation of the drug war, and continued corporatist government in this country. Really, he and McCain differed very little on actual policy positions when you really look at the details.
 
ihatedumbpeople
2009-01-20 3:33:15 PM  

Komplex: ihatedumbpeople: I think they're just pointing out that so many people have wildly inaccurate expectations of what he can do.

I think it's more like after the clusterfark of the last eight years, the minimal standards of competency has become "wildly inaccurate expectations"


I've heard those "on the streets" radio interviews, and some people seem to legitimately think Obama is going to get rid of taxes for black people and somehow just flip the entire country upside down.

It's just not gonna happen.
 
mongbiohazard
2009-01-20 3:36:23 PM  

aden_nak: He's been President for an hour. A farking hour.

Though I suppose, in all fairness, the WSJ's editorial staff has been a cabal of douchebags for YEARS.



RTFA! Your response makes it clear that you didn't, and instead just let your knee jerk against your keyboard to write that comment.

Basically all they said was, "he's got a tough job ahead of him", "he hasn't had to make these kind of decisions before" and "he'll need to do things that will dissapoint some people". None of those notions are particularly controversial, unexpected or unlikely.


Nabb1: mryoop789: wasn't a bad article

Yes, the headline grossly miss-characterized it.



I'd say that was bad assumptions on part of the headline readers. From the headline I more or less expected the article that it turned out to be.

And if Obama does piss off the right people then I might just like him more. We shall see!
 
LibertyFirst
2009-01-20 3:36:37 PM  
I'm no fan of the WSJ editorial board, but did anyone actually read the article? The article didn't say how bad Obama will be, simply that he has extra responsibility, opportunities, and can actually be another JFK if he has the courage to make tough decisions.
 
sarcastrophe
2009-01-20 3:37:15 PM  

Occam's Chainsaw: 'Cept for that pesky 3rd branch of government. That takes decades to pack.


FDR had some ideas to solve this issue...
 
Flargan
2009-01-20 3:37:37 PM  
The stock market didn't attend todays festivities.

Instead it made a large THUD! sound as it fell down a flight of stairs.

Obama has dispatched a medical helicopter which we hope arrives swiftly and in tact.
 
Gated Community Organizer
2009-01-20 3:37:38 PM  
He was elected on dreams.
 
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