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(Yahoo)   Russ Feingold wants Obama to restore Constitutional checks and balances, which is a fancy way of saying "give all Executive Branch power to the Senate"   (news.yahoo.com) divider line
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2009-01-08 4:15:37 PM  
You mean Congress could enforce the terms of the War Powers Resolution, subby?
 
2009-01-08 4:17:57 PM  
Hey subby,

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/Feingold '16
 
2009-01-08 4:22:58 PM  
Stupid tag thinks subby is being to hard on himself.
 
2009-01-08 4:44:48 PM  
restore Constitutional checks and balances

Strange combination of words. The Constitution has been around for quite a while now, but why would it need anything restored ?
 
2009-01-08 4:49:18 PM  
Oh subby, you so don't know anything about Russ Feingold.
 
2009-01-08 5:03:07 PM  

Mordant: The Constitution has been around for quite a while now, but why would it need anything restored ?


It involves a Bush and a Dick, but involves no sex.
 
2009-01-08 5:14:44 PM  
You mean like give Congress the power to declare wars and stuff?

Unpossible.
 
2009-01-08 5:20:51 PM  
"Which is a fancy way of saying 'give all Executive Branch power to the Senate'..."

No it isn't. It's a direct way of saying, "Gone are the days of a unilateral White House that likes to simply ignore laws, procedures, and processes it doesn't like in order to advance a failed personal agenda." The government was set up as manifold in the first place so that no one branch of the bastard could exert undue influence free of the oversight of the other two, but the Bush administration just spend eight years trying to undo the previous 200. Russ just wants things to be back to the way they're supposed to be.

coco ebert: Oh subby, you so don't know anything about Russ Feingold.


So very much THIS. I was a constituent of his for years, the man's got foresight, integrity, and intelligence. Plus, I've never seen cleaner, more honest campaigns run in my life. When he ran for his first term against this clown named Mark Neumann, it was the first, last and ONLY time I've EVER seen a candidate run for national office without airing a SINGLE negative campaign ad. Feingold's spots were all about his views, stances, character and vision, and said NOTHING WHHATSOEVER bad about the other guy. Nothing. Zero. Meanwhile, Neumann was throwing more mud than the first six rows of Woodstock '99. Feingold won handily, and has never looked back.

The man's an exceptional public servant, and about the ONLY politician I WOULDN'T cynically expect ulterior motives from.
 
2009-01-08 5:27:35 PM  
Subby, and the author to a certain degree, don't seem to get that checks and balances means authority and power is leveled across the three branches.

Don't they teach basic civics anymore?
 
2009-01-08 5:29:59 PM  
Where the fark were you in the last eight years, buddy?

Is everybody that scared of getting disappeared by Karl Rove's monkey men?
 
2009-01-08 5:34:21 PM  

soze: Where the fark were you in the last eight years, buddy?

Is everybody that scared of getting disappeared by Karl Rove's monkey men?


No no....Rove has the weather machine. Pelosi has the flying monkeys.
 
2009-01-08 5:36:46 PM  

Diogenes: soze: Where the fark were you in the last eight years, buddy?

Is everybody that scared of getting disappeared by Karl Rove's monkey men?

No no....Rove has the weather machine. Pelosi has the flying monkeys.


Rove doesn't have the Weather Dominator, that's Cheney. Rove has monkey men, not mere flying monkeys.
 
2009-01-08 5:38:54 PM  

MaxxLarge: The man's an exceptional public servant, and about the ONLY politician I WOULDN'T cynically expect ulterior motives from.


I'm superstitious so please knock on wood as you say that. ;)

/Or at least write a good luck limerick.
 
2009-01-08 5:58:34 PM  
MaxxLarge: The man's an exceptional public servant, and about the ONLY politician I WOULDN'T cynically expect ulterior motives from.

THIS, oh so very much.

Before this year, I didn't think he's have a shot at running for POTUS, being a twice divorced Jew, but now I'm starting to think he'd have a decent shot.
 
2009-01-08 6:00:06 PM  
soze: Where the fark were you in the last eight years, buddy?

When the Patriot Act was originally voted on in Congress, it passed 99-1.

Feingold was the 1.
He also voted against the war in Iraq, and called for the Censure of Bush after the warrantless wiretapping plan was revealed.
He's also the Feingold part of McCain/Feingold Campaign Finance reform.

So, where were YOU the last few years that you didn't notice this guy?
 
2009-01-08 6:10:39 PM  

SilentStrider: soze:
So, where were YOU the last few years that you didn't notice this guy?


Slaving away at the ACLU getting death threats from Bill O'Reilly fans.

You?
 
2009-01-08 6:26:52 PM  
soze: Slaving away at the ACLU getting death threats from Bill O'Reilly fans.

You?


Touche.
 
2009-01-08 6:28:06 PM  
Russ Feingold - without fkn question - has more honor and integrity than any other person in the Senate. More than the rest of them combined, in fact.

The Senate needs MORE Russ Feingolds.
 
2009-01-08 6:42:50 PM  
This is a play for camera time. He's an internet lefty darling but he never makes the real power play to knock serious hijinks down.

Anyway, to back up my opinions of Feingold a little bit, he may spout the right sound bites but he's so ridiculously awful at consensus-building that he does more harm than good. Playing political games in the Senate requires backup, not some 'Army of One' false heroism horseshiat. If he'd, y'know, talk to other Senators once in a while and maybe try to get a few people on board before he does shiat it might go somewhere instead of making progressives look ridiculous.

Every goddam one of those Senators has an outspoken opinion on something, but they're not worth shiat until they can get some other Senators moving in the same direction.
 
2009-01-08 6:46:51 PM  
Btw sorry I came off a little grumpy up there, I am hungry and my South Side White Sox brother promised me a cheezburger during his campaign but has not yet delivered. ZOMG OBAMA CHEEZBURGER RECESSION

/off to get cheezburger.
 
2009-01-08 7:08:39 PM  

Blues_X: Mordant: The Constitution has been around for quite a while now, but why would it need anything restored ?

It involves a Bush and a Dick, but involves no sex.


I dunno, I think America as a whole got farked
 
2009-01-08 7:09:18 PM  
Tag must be a references to submitter, because Feingold is 100% correct.
 
2009-01-08 7:11:25 PM  
Russ should cut Reid's heart out and eat it.
 
2009-01-08 7:13:09 PM  
Is the stupid tag being deployed for the submitter?
 
2009-01-08 7:13:16 PM  
We evened out our bad Karma for Joe McCarthy by electing this man. Everything he's done since then is pure gold. You're welcome, rest of America. - Wisconsin

I'm hoping to get in touch with him about this stupid highway 23 expansion that's threatening to take out half my front yard. I figure if he can't do anything politically he'd personally reroute the highway to fix the problem. He's just that awesome.
 
2009-01-08 7:15:31 PM  
Constitutional power is not delegated. It's taken. Get that thru your head and Cheney/Bush can go to jail.
 
2009-01-08 7:19:03 PM  
Hey guys, Dick Cheney finally got a greenlit!
 
2009-01-08 7:22:19 PM  
Feingold is the only member of the Senate that deserves to get reelected. The rest of those scum sucking greedheads should be ousted, and their heads placed on pikes.
 
2009-01-08 7:22:27 PM  
Feingold is correct, and Obama will most likely oblige.
 
2009-01-08 7:23:38 PM  
soze: Rove doesn't have the Weather Dominator, that's Cheney. Rove has monkey men, not mere flying monkeys.

Wrong. Cheney has the earthquake machine.
 
2009-01-08 7:25:56 PM  
Subby is a troll or an idiot.
 
2009-01-08 7:28:00 PM  
I would say that it would be a great idea to return some strength to the legislative branch, but after seeing congressional leadership in action, I wouldn't give them any power back even if Bush were still in office.
 
2009-01-08 7:29:35 PM  
I must admit to having mixed feelings about this.

On one hand, it would be nice to see check and balances restored to pre-Bush era status.

On the other, after having watched for so long as the opposition went mad with unbridled power to bring into being things that, frankly, went against everything we believed and stood for, it'd be nice if WE had a whack at it, even for a little while.
 
2009-01-08 7:29:36 PM  

Alphax: Feingold is correct, and Obama will most likely oblige.


Are you saying Obama is Feingold's Slave???!

/I'm prepping the Racism Card
 
2009-01-08 7:29:51 PM  
Isn't Feingold, along with McCain, about to launch a new effort to institute the line-item veto?


/headline does not compute
//file this under 'powers no one should have'
 
2009-01-08 7:31:48 PM  

sckonkh: Alphax: Feingold is correct, and Obama will most likely oblige.

Are you saying Obama is Feingold's Slave???!

/I'm prepping the Racism Card


I'm saying that Obama said he would do this, and if he backtracked on it, his support, and donations, would drop way off.
 
2009-01-08 7:32:48 PM  
Know who else didn't like being checked and balanced by the Senate?

Julius Caesar.
 
2009-01-08 7:35:51 PM  

Cyborg77: Know who else didn't like being checked and balanced by the Senate?

Julius Caesar.


and the people loved him......
 
2009-01-08 7:42:02 PM  

Diogenes: Subby, and the author to a certain degree, don't seem to get that checks and balances means authority and power is leveled across the three branches.

Don't they teach basic civics anymore?


No.

And when they do teach it, it is done badly.

(Anecdotal) It was explained so poorly that much of my civics class believed you could not vote in a presidential election in Michigan unless you were a registered member of the Democratic or Republican party. Problem was, he neglected to say the primary election.
 
2009-01-08 7:42:43 PM  

Cyborg77: Know who else didn't like being checked and balanced by the Senate?


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2009-01-08 7:42:52 PM  

sckonkh: Cyborg77: Know who else didn't like being checked and balanced by the Senate?

Julius Caesar.

and the people loved him......



"Hey Caesar, come hang out by the pool...
OF YOUR OWN BLOOD!!! (Evil laugh)"

Julius Caesar, 1st draft
-Little Billy Shakespeare
 
2009-01-08 7:44:38 PM  
Gotta love a Senator that paints his campaign promises on his garage door and then sticks by them.

/Feingold makes me proud to live in Wisconsin.
 
2009-01-08 7:54:08 PM  
How dare Feingold question Obama's unquestionable authority?!?!? Barack is his own check and balance. Russ should feel privileged that he will be able to rubber stamp Obama's agenda.
 
2009-01-08 7:54:33 PM  
The Senate can have its checks. It will not matter when my political coup takes root and I become the TSA of one.
/BOW TO ME
 
2009-01-08 7:57:11 PM  
Congress should put some bills together and then Obama should go sike and then *boom* signing statement.
 
2009-01-08 7:57:45 PM  
I'm getting tired of people like Feingold saying "it should be done this way" or "Obama needs to do this".
He's not President yet. Jeez.
He'll do it his way when he actually assumes office.

/he and his complete group from the Clinton Administration.
 
2009-01-08 7:58:48 PM  
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There isn't a better person in The U.S. Senate then Russ Feingold!
 
2009-01-08 7:59:34 PM  

soy_bomb: How dare Feingold question Obama's unquestionable authority?!?!? Barack is his own check and balance. Russ should feel privileged that he will be able to rubber stamp Obama's agenda.


Glad to see your opinion of the office of the President has not changed with the new occupant.
 
2009-01-08 8:02:04 PM  
The funny thing is that Feingold is right TECHNICALLY. But more important is REALISTICALLY and that leaves Russ in the dark because most of the rest of the senators are just after the easy pay, the powerful connections and the board appointments at corporations they shake down, or get bribes from in order to get the "right" votes made.

I wouldn't be surprised if all those PAC's are just retainers for votes.

On the campaign finance bill he incorrectly identified the problem. The problem is that the people are corrupt, or have a very large predisposition to being corrupted by the mere offer of money and/or vacations/junkets/whatever.

IT is worse now than before the bill...all...his...fault.

Good intentions still lead you on the road to hell if your actions aren't in alignment with your intentions.
 
2009-01-08 8:16:11 PM  
One would hope that the Senator would be in favor of not disregarding the rest, such as the division of power been the federal government and lower levels, or the First Amendment's restrictions on what the government can do to constrain speech.
 
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