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(Dobson)   Focus on the Family conducts a survey, asking 9 questions which define what Christianity is and who believes in them all. Turns out only 4% of people are true Christians   (focusonthefamily.com) divider line
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DamnYankees
2008-11-16 5:21:23 PM  
"Is Satan real?"

LOL
 
Watchman
2008-11-16 6:03:10 PM  
FTFA:
Does a Christian have a responsibility to share his or her faith in Christ with other people?

Does a Christian have a responsibility to share his or her faith in Christ with other people?

Were the people polled partially deaf? Is that why they had to repeat one question?

Also, this appears to be less an examination of Christianity than a litmus test for some specific brands of Protestant belief.
 
Uchiha_Cycliste [TotalFark]
2008-11-16 6:03:45 PM  
I feel like these questions are a trick!
# Does a Christian have a responsibility to share his or her faith in Christ with other people?
# Does a Christian have a responsibility to share his or her faith in Christ with other people?
 
Uchiha_Cycliste [TotalFark]
2008-11-16 6:04:43 PM  
I'll see you in hell Watchman
 
John Paul Jones
2008-11-16 6:08:09 PM  
I, for one, and shocked.
 
Uchiha_Cycliste [TotalFark]
2008-11-16 6:10:21 PM  

John Paul Jones: I, for one, and shocked.


shocked?
 
Uchiha_Cycliste [TotalFark]
2008-11-16 6:11:07 PM  
Also, I and upset by bad sentences.
 
John Paul Jones
2008-11-16 6:11:41 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Also, I and upset by bad sentences.


Apparently.
 
co-conspirator
2008-11-16 6:16:18 PM  
Submitter: Turns out only 4% of people are true Christians

And 100% of Dobson's followers are assholes.

/statistics rule!
 
Majick Thise
2008-11-16 6:16:22 PM  
Do absolute moral truths exist?

No

Is absolute truth defined by the Bible?

No

Did Jesus Christ live a sinless life?

No... if he even lived at all

Is God the all-powerful and all-knowing Creator of the universe, and does He still rule it today?

Possible but not likely, but if he is, he is a complete bastard

Is salvation a gift from God that cannot be earned?

If we accept god as real (and a bastard) then this is another possible but not likely

Is Satan real?

No

Does a Christian have a responsibility to share his or her faith in Christ with other people?

No (and xtians...please stop thinking you do)


Is the Bible accurate in all of its teachings?

No


What do I win?
 
Uchiha_Cycliste [TotalFark]
2008-11-16 6:17:33 PM  

Majick Thise: Do absolute moral truths exist?

No

Is absolute truth defined by the Bible?

No

Did Jesus Christ live a sinless life?

No... if he even lived at all

Is God the all-powerful and all-knowing Creator of the universe, and does He still rule it today?

Possible but not likely, but if he is, he is a complete bastard

Is salvation a gift from God that cannot be earned?

If we accept god as real (and a bastard) then this is another possible but not likely

Is Satan real?

No

Does a Christian have a responsibility to share his or her faith in Christ with other people?

No (and xtians...please stop thinking you do)


Is the Bible accurate in all of its teachings?

No


What do I win?



good company, bad weather.
 
burndtdan
2008-11-16 6:30:04 PM  

DamnYankees: "Is Satan real?"


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My Innuendo
2008-11-16 6:37:46 PM  
I think the question that really needs to be asked is, "Are you capable of blindly believing in and living your life by the opinions of someone else?"

/no
 
rideSpecialized
2008-11-16 6:46:00 PM  
Is the real test to recognize that there are only 8 questions because one is repeated? Maybe they are checking to see if any true believers RTFA.

No * 8 = Me
 
DamnYankees
2008-11-16 6:55:27 PM  
If you answer "no" to every question, does that make you a candidate for the anti-Christ? Because I'm in.
 
I hate Chevy
2008-11-16 7:02:04 PM  
Is James Dobson's mother a whore? I'm not saying she's a whore, I'm just asking.
 
jso2897
2008-11-16 7:03:19 PM  
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satanicsantoku
2008-11-16 7:03:23 PM  
Uchiha_Cycliste:

good company, bad weather.

i slapped my knee. +1
 
Cubic Zirconium Jim Brady
2008-11-16 7:03:32 PM  

DamnYankees: If you answer "no" to every question, does that make you a candidate for the anti-Christ? Because I'm in.


No, it just makes you somewhat sensible.

That was one of the most biased bullshiat articles I've ever slogged through on Fark. fark Dobson and his minions.
 
Lionel Mandrake
2008-11-16 7:04:23 PM  
Someone with a biblical worldview believes his primary reason for existence is to love and serve God.

God sounds pretty insecure.

Is salvation a gift from God that cannot be earned?

So I'm farked (or not) no matter what? Sweet. Hookers and blow, here I come...
 
organizm
2008-11-16 7:04:30 PM  
This doesn't suprise me. Most Christians I know don't understand what their religion teaches at all. Then we you explain some things to them the response is "Oh, well I don't believe that."

Besides that, look at Republicans. Almost everything the party stands for is the opposite of what Jesus taught.
 
jso2897
2008-11-16 7:04:34 PM  

I hate Chevy: Is James Dobson's mother a whore? I'm not saying she's a whore, I'm just asking.


No, she is not a whore. She's never charged anyone a penny.
 
Aarontology
2008-11-16 7:08:36 PM  
Do absolute moral truths exist?

Is absolute truth defined by My Balls?

Do My Balls live a sinless life?

Are My Balls the all-powerful and all-knowing Creator of the universe, and do They still rule it today?

Is salvation a gift from My Balls that cannot be earned?

Are Other Balls real?

Do My Balls have a responsibility to share his or her faith in My Balls with other people?
 
Stopheles
2008-11-16 7:09:04 PM  
Strange that the list of questions didn't include "Does the Republican Party platform run completely counter to the Sermon on the Mount, the most concentrated, explicit statement of politics made by Jesus Christ?"

(yes, btw)
 
Skleenar
2008-11-16 7:10:17 PM  
No wonder they are so persecuted.
 
HappyDaddy
2008-11-16 7:10:24 PM  
I answered "yes" to seven of the eight, and I'm smarter than you. Interesting.
 
ne2d
2008-11-16 7:13:25 PM  

Corvus: Did Jesus Christ live a sinless life?

This one hurt my head. is this because Jesus was born from the immaculate conception so they believe he was not born with original sin? [And no the immaculate conception means he was born without sin not because he was born without a father.]

But people also feel he did not sin in his life? Is that because he never did anything sinful or because he was son of god that it just doesn't count.


Would love to hear someone knowledgeable about this discuss this.


The "immaculate conception" refers to the conception of Mary, not Jesus. That's how original sin did not pass to Jesus. According to Christian belief, Jesus was capable of sinning & was tempted by Satan to sin, but never did.

/not a Christian
 
Korovyov
2008-11-16 7:18:22 PM  
Satan's real... and he plays for Pittsburgh.
 
abb3w [TotalFark]
2008-11-16 7:18:29 PM  
"Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind"

Yes, please. Start by trying to give up the pattern of living by bread and other food, and live only by the Word of God. That should settle the discussion in short order, one way or another.
 
Hobodeluxe
2008-11-16 7:19:46 PM  
I just love people who think they are the arbiter of morality.
the giver of the absolute truth. the interpreter of God's will.

all then need is your money and they'll tell you what to do.
what a deal.
 
DamnYankees
2008-11-16 7:20:17 PM  

HappyDaddy: I answered "yes" to seven of the eight, and I'm smarter than you. Interesting.


Which one did you say no?
 
jso2897
2008-11-16 7:23:08 PM  

HappyDaddy: I answered "yes" to seven of the eight, and I'm smarter than you. Interesting.


When faced with an apparent contradiction, re-examine your premises.
 
Hobodeluxe
2008-11-16 7:24:30 PM  
funny how they keep saying if I need anything "God will provide" but in the next breath they're asking for my money. I just say "hey God will provide for you too, besides why does God need money anyway?"
 
RemyDuron
2008-11-16 7:24:34 PM  
According to Christian belief, Jesus never sinned. Whether Jesus was capable of sinning depends on who you ask.

IMO, though, "Why have you forsaken me?" is questioning God which is a sin IIRC.
 
RemyDuron
2008-11-16 7:25:25 PM  
Lol, so by real christian he means "asshole evangelical who will not shut the fark up and leave me alone."

How about helping the poor? Giving up worldly things? Why isn't that on the list?
 
HappyDaddy
2008-11-16 7:26:36 PM  
DamnYankees: Which one did you say no?

The last one. The second one was dicey, but I gave them the benefit of the doubt (the question's kind of ambiguous).
 
RyanWillia
2008-11-16 7:26:38 PM  

Majick Thise: Do absolute moral truths exist?

No
Since you have to ask, Yes.

Is absolute truth defined by the Bible?

No
I have faith the next published version will get it right

Did Jesus Christ live a sinless life?

No... if he even lived at all
Sorry, I was too distracted by the way he went out.

Is God the all-powerful and all-knowing Creator of the universe, and does He still rule it today?

Possible but not likely, but if he is, he is a complete bastard
The all mighty Lord sayeth a Poet, alas the Lord shalt not know it.

Is salvation a gift from God that cannot be earned?

If we accept god as real (and a bastard) then this is another possible but not likely
Salvation sells but no one's buying

Is Satan real?

No
Marky Mark did star in that Planet of the Apes remake.

Does a Christian have a responsibility to share his or her faith in Christ with other people?

No (and xtians...please stop thinking you do)
I have something to share with a Christain too, giggity giggity.

Is the Bible accurate in all of its teachings?

No
That fully depends on if I passed this test or not dumbass.

What do I win?

The Internets
 
Hobodeluxe
2008-11-16 7:26:56 PM  

RemyDuron: How about helping the poor? Giving up worldly things? Why isn't that on the list?


shoosh you that's crazy talk. they don't pay much attention to the words in red.
 
rideSpecialized
2008-11-16 7:27:13 PM  

ne2d: The "immaculate conception" refers to the conception of Mary, not Jesus. That's how original sin did not pass to Jesus.


Agreed on the facts, also not a christian... but lemme ask ya this one:

If god could create Mary without sin and thereby pass this sinless thing onto Jesus... what's the point? Why not just make Jesus immaculately conceived? Srsly... i don't get why the extra hoops.

Turns out the immaculate conception didn't exist as a dogma until 1858 anyway (wiki if ya don't believe) so I'd chalk it up to the regular bullshiat... but if anybody has any ideas lemme know.
 
earlm
2008-11-16 7:27:24 PM  

organizm: This doesn't suprise me. Most Christians I know don't understand what their religion teaches at all. Then we you explain some things to them the response is "Oh, well I don't believe that."

Besides that, look at Republicans. Almost everything the party stands for is the opposite of what Jesus taught.


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Take what you want, leave the rest.
 
HappyDaddy
2008-11-16 7:29:05 PM  
Should also say that I actually believe the one about sharing, but I don't do really do it. I tend to not wear my faith on my sleeve. I'd "fail" the test, even though I believe the statements (with above exceptions) to be true.
 
RemyDuron
2008-11-16 7:29:16 PM  

rideSpecialized: ne2d: The "immaculate conception" refers to the conception of Mary, not Jesus. That's how original sin did not pass to Jesus.

Agreed on the facts, also not a christian... but lemme ask ya this one:

If god could create Mary without sin and thereby pass this sinless thing onto Jesus... what's the point? Why not just make Jesus immaculately conceived? Srsly... i don't get why the extra hoops.

Turns out the immaculate conception didn't exist as a dogma until 1858 anyway (wiki if ya don't believe) so I'd chalk it up to the regular bullshiat... but if anybody has any ideas lemme know.


Because Christians at times acted like rules lawyer RPG nerds. Plus to some they felt Mary had to be special too.
 
benlonghair
2008-11-16 7:30:23 PM  
The Christians love their guns
The church and NRA
Pray for their salvations
Prey on the lower faiths

The story book's been read
And every line believed
Curriculum's been set
Logic is a threat
Reason searched and seized
 
blindy the pirate
2008-11-16 7:31:36 PM  

RemyDuron: Lol, so by real christian he means "asshole evangelical who will not shut the fark up and leave me alone."

How about helping the poor? Giving up worldly things? Why isn't that on the list?


Because that had nothing to do with being an evangelical Christian. Thats way they tend to quote the old testament instead of Jesus's teachings in the new testament. Jesus is too much of a hippy socialist for their taste.
 
Relatively Obscure [TotalFark]
2008-11-16 7:31:37 PM  
Without having yet RTFA, and as a non-religious person, that sounds about right from a realistic Christian perspective. I don't recall Jesus really saying "Oh man this is gonna be Sooooooo popular, you guys. Everyone's gonna get it"
 
ninjakirby
2008-11-16 7:32:09 PM  
This thread is relevant to my interests.
 
matthew8762
2008-11-16 7:32:51 PM  

ne2d: Corvus: Did Jesus Christ live a sinless life?

This one hurt my head. is this because Jesus was born from the immaculate conception so they believe he was not born with original sin? [And no the immaculate conception means he was born without sin not because he was born without a father.]

But people also feel he did not sin in his life? Is that because he never did anything sinful or because he was son of god that it just doesn't count.


Would love to hear someone knowledgeable about this discuss this.

-------------------------------

The "immaculate conception" refers to the conception of Mary, not Jesus. That's how original sin did not pass to Jesus. According to Christian belief, Jesus was capable of sinning & was tempted by Satan to sin, but never did.

/not a Christian


Correct, doctrinally Jesus was fully human (albeit simultaneously fully God) and thus capable of sinning and theoretically susceptible to temptation.

Although only the Catholics tend to believe in the Immaculate Conception. They felt it necessary to maintain doctrinal consistency on how OS was transferred.

Protestants view Christ's own conception story to be sufficient.

/doctrine is fun
//not a Catholic
 
CaesarSneezy
2008-11-16 7:33:47 PM  

ne2d: The "immaculate conception" refers to the conception of Mary, not Jesus. That's how original sin did not pass to Jesus. According to Christian belief, Jesus was capable of sinning & was tempted by Satan to sin, but never did.

/not a Christian


Sin is more or less defined as antithesis to the moral nature of God. Jesus, being one with God, could not by His nature sin.
 
depmode98
2008-11-16 7:34:41 PM  
the true irony of Satanists is that there wouldn't be any if christians didn't make satan up in the first place.
 
The Voice of Sarcastic Reason
2008-11-16 7:34:51 PM  
Ex-Leper: Half a dinare for me bloody life story?
Brian: There's no pleasing some people.
Ex-Leper: That's just what Jesus said, sir.
 
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