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(Wall Street Journal)   Presidents and presidential candidates don't often take on the press directly, the way McCain is. But two in recent history have -- and both won their elections   (online.wsj.com) divider line
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schrodinger
2008-09-26 6:57:44 PM  
McCain Rules
The "maverick" "mavrick" is busy upending political traditions.

Fixed.
 
Brettster808 [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2008-09-26 6:59:10 PM  
McCain.

He's a frickin' Maverick.

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ayenull
2008-09-26 6:59:33 PM  
He may want to take on the polls for the electoral votes while he's at it...
 
Cyborg77
2008-09-26 7:02:18 PM  
Yeah, I'm sure McCain would be flattered to be compared to Nixon and Carter.
 
Blathering Idjut
2008-09-26 7:02:37 PM  
McCain "takes on" the press in true bukkake fashion.
 
doyner [OhFark]
2008-09-26 7:03:17 PM  

Blathering Idjut: McCain "takes on" the press in true bukkake fashion.


Thread over.
 
Muta
2008-09-26 7:04:08 PM  
McCain so mavericky he's mavericious!
 
Rug Doctor
2008-09-26 7:04:10 PM  
This is really interesting. I think McCain had the right idea, but it's completely farked now because he blew his anti-media load too soon. Bush was able to make it fly, though. I'm trying to figure out if this means people have gotten wise to it, or if it's a workable strategy that McCain has simply bungled.

/Media guy
 
AxiomJackson
2008-09-26 7:05:14 PM  

Blathering Idjut: McCain "takes on" the press in true bukkake fashion.


Oh god, what has been pictured cannot be unpictured!
/getitoutgetitoutgetitout
 
Corpus Delecti
2008-09-26 7:05:42 PM  

Cyborg77: Yeah, I'm sure McCain would be flattered to be compared to Nixon and Carter.


Oy vey.
 
jakomo002
2008-09-26 7:06:11 PM  
McCain doesn't "take on the press".

He flails around pathetically, trying to blame the press for his own gaffes. Blaming the media for reporting his stupidities and his own inane comments.

It's not "taking on the press" it's "deflecting valid criticism by blaming the messenger".
 
Rug Doctor
2008-09-26 7:06:25 PM  
And also: Keep on suckin', WSJ staff. Maybe your corporate overlords will let you work for another year.
 
ConservativesBlow
2008-09-26 7:07:38 PM  
Well of course he's going to win this election! He's already won this debate, and it hasn't even happened yet!
 
Banky_The_Hack
2008-09-26 7:08:15 PM  
Hey Smitty, take a reading comprehension course. When Carter took on the media by boycotting that debate, it was 1980 and he did not win. Agnew took on the media after Nixon had won the election. Both went down in history as crappy presidents. There's your precedent. When a politician tries to game the media, it means they have not one farking other thing to recommend their candidacy.
 
Tsunami Ditka
2008-09-26 7:08:20 PM  

jakomo002: McCain doesn't "take on the press".

He flails around pathetically, trying to blame the press for his own gaffes. Blaming the media for reporting his stupidities and his own inane comments.

It's not "taking on the press" it's "deflecting valid criticism by blaming the messenger".


This. This, this, this. But I do love the Kabuki theatre of the whole thing.
 
Corpus Delecti
2008-09-26 7:09:06 PM  
I just read the entire article. Unsurprisingly, the real point isn't that Nixon and Carter "won", it's that the Press destroyed them afterwards. But I guess if there's truly nothing else for Republicans to grasp onto...
 
WayToBlue
2008-09-26 7:09:51 PM  
Subby, you are really reaching.
 
Hideously Gigantic Smurf
2008-09-26 7:10:20 PM  

ConservativesBlow: Well of course he's going to win this election! He's already won this debate, and it hasn't even happened yet the white guy with the non-foreign sounding name and the fundamentalist Christian running mate who loves war!


No need to thank me.
 
rppp01a
2008-09-26 7:11:52 PM  
I don't care that he takes on the press. I am glad they are challenged. But they should be allowed to challenge, too. And why does Fox news constantly say the media is destroying this and that? They also say journalism is dead- and yet they are part of the media. Are they suggesting they are dead? That they are part of the problem?
 
Wombatzu
2008-09-26 7:12:55 PM  
i bet Mccain wins, subby!
 
bartink
2008-09-26 7:14:00 PM  
Good thing the Wall Street Journal isn't any different since that pirate took it over.

/what a pos
 
darthbandon
2008-09-26 7:14:19 PM  
I don't know the longer this campaign goes on the worse it seems to make McCain look. Last year I thought McCain was quiet an honorable man, he seemed to be well informed and seasoned, but then I didn't know much about him. He is starting to make Bush look good, and that is not a good thing. I feel sorry for him in a way as he is not what he used to be. His team is full of people who are as far away from what he is, as it could be possible. If he was elected he would be just like Bush as in, he would be the truck and the real drivers would be someone behind the scenes (see Cheney).

He had credibility but it is lost. When Republicans (remember they stick together no matter how bad someone is (see Mark Foely, Bush etc) are saying he is a trainwreck it really is bad.
 
Wight Power
2008-09-26 7:15:18 PM  
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He's so elitist he wont even debate the other candidate before declaring victory
 
XSLUMLORDX
2008-09-26 7:15:58 PM  
TFA goes on about how Obama supporters are organizing to stop lies from being advertised and calls it "disturbing".

Then complains that some journalists are less impressed with McCain than Obama and write as such.

and Someone on an elevator in NYC called Palin "stupid"

Crying baby pic please?
 
Cyborg77
2008-09-26 7:16:14 PM  
Historically a wealthy white male age 45 or above has won the presidency. McCain is a wealthy white male above age 45. Election is in the bag!

/Comparing this race to past races is dumb.
 
mainstreet62
2008-09-26 7:16:29 PM  

Blathering Idjut: McCain "takes on" the press in true bukkake fashion.


I haven't seen so much WIN on so many levels since Super Mario Brothers 3.

+1 for shock value, +1 for nasty image, +1 for point made, and + 1 for being awesome in other threads.

Remind me to buy you a beer next time you're in the NYC area. You are on fire today!
 
milk_plus
2008-09-26 7:17:14 PM  
McCain's latest attack on the media is against the New York Times for pointing out that his campaign manager's ties to Freddie and Fannie. McCain is taking on the wider media for trying to ask an elderly presidential candidate's VP questions.

McCain's conduct toward the media is disgraceful.
 
Frow
2008-09-26 7:20:19 PM  

mainstreet62: Blathering Idjut: McCain "takes on" the press in true bukkake fashion.

I haven't seen so much WIN on so many levels since Super Mario Brothers 3.

+1 for shock value, +1 for nasty image, +1 for point made, and + 1 for being awesome in other threads.

Remind me to buy you a beer next time you're in the NYC area. You are on fire today!


All it needs is some shrooms and some turtles to knock around to be truley Epic.
 
Donald_McRonald
2008-09-26 7:23:20 PM  
Yeah, this strategy worked so well for Bob Dole.
 
Kublai Khan
2008-09-26 7:23:23 PM  
Every president ever has breathed air.
McCain breathes air.
OMG MCCAIN WILL WIN!
 
jakomo002
2008-09-26 7:24:45 PM  
He should just go out and shoot a tiger and then maybe give a little boy a good stomach brrzpt.

Oh, and DON'T FARKING BLINK!!!!

Apparently that there is super important.
 
Banky_The_Hack
2008-09-26 7:25:43 PM  

jakomo002: He should just go out and shoot a tiger and then maybe give a little boy a good stomach brrzpt.

Oh, and DON'T FARKING BLINK!!!!

Apparently that there is super important.


Dude, it's called a zerbert. Haven't you ever seen the Cosby show?
 
darthbandon
2008-09-26 7:26:12 PM  
Why do people use past presidents as examples they don't match up. 2008 is completely different to any election in the past.
 
IXI Jim IXI
2008-09-26 7:26:18 PM  
The Obama campaign is very smart, but in the closing weeks of this long presidential campaign, perhaps Obama needs more "red cell" thinking. Red cell is a term used by the intelligence community to describe wild, out-of-the-box approaches to potential situations.


Because acting like an adult is apparently beyond McCain...
 
jakomo002
2008-09-26 7:28:08 PM  
Banky_The_Hack: Dude, it's called a zerbert. Haven't you ever seen the Cosby show?

Da. But no Cosby Show in Russia, silly Western pigdog.
 
IXI Jim IXI
2008-09-26 7:28:25 PM  

jakomo002: Oh, and DON'T FARKING BLINK!!!!


At least that ensures that Nancy Pelosi will never run for President.
 
jakomo002
2008-09-26 7:29:43 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: At least that ensures that Nancy Pelosi will never run for President.

I'm sure the next operating system upgrade will include a blinking sub-routine.

Maybe even a thinking one!
 
IXI Jim IXI
2008-09-26 7:30:11 PM  
Yeah, I give up now.

/In Russia, Jello Pudding Pop eat YOU!
 
mainstreet62
2008-09-26 7:30:45 PM  

Kublai Khan: Every president ever has breathed air.
McCain breathes air.
OMG MCCAIN WILL WIN!


There's no proof Palin breathes, however. Not unless her aides tell her to every 2 seconds.
 
IXI Jim IXI
2008-09-26 7:31:05 PM  

jakomo002:
I'm sure the next operating system upgrade will include a blinking sub-routine.

Maybe even a thinking one!


If we could harness the energy of her blinks, we wouldn't need oil.
 
Geekette
2008-09-26 7:31:41 PM  

Blathering Idjut: McCain "takes on" the press in true bukkake fashion.


My internets, you win them all.
 
darthbandon
2008-09-26 7:32:10 PM  
I think the debate tonight will be pretty boring (I know mcCain has already won it), but the really interesting one will be Oct 2 (Biden vs Palin), this is if Palin is allowed to attend. I can see it now.

Reporter: John McCain there has been talk about the readiness of Sarah Palin for the debate.
McCain: No, no, Sarah isn't doing it, Mitt Romney has been kind to stand in for her.
Reporter: You have dropped Sarah Palin as VP?!
McCain: No, no, he will just do the debate she will be on the ticket for the election.

What are the chances of that????
 
chipspastic
2008-09-26 7:35:36 PM  
Dear Republicans,

Here's some more straws, for your continued grasping pleasure.

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thatvoiceguy
2008-09-26 7:35:55 PM  

Kublai Khan: Every president ever has breathed air.
McCain breathes air.
OMG MCCAIN WILL WIN!


Did you know he spent 5 and a half years not breathing air?
 
Car_Ramrod
2008-09-26 7:36:23 PM  
Haha, yea, Nixon and Bush are really people to emulate. Good job, James Taranto.

He seems to be giving the McCain campaign the benefit of the doubt in that this is all part of some grand scheme to throw Obama off the trail.

Lynn Sweet of the Chicago Sun-Times argues that McCain has had great success in catching the Obama campaign unawares flailing about in an uncoordinated, inarticulate manner, making many people wonder what the hell it is they're smoking

FTFH. The idea that Obama was confused and discombobulated by this move is ludicrous. His campaign response to McCain was perfect: a president should be able to multitask, and we can handle a crisis and a debate at the same time. And if you can't, we'll hold a townhall without you.

But we appreciate your concern.

XSLUMLORDX: TFA goes on about how Obama supporters are organizing to stop lies from being advertised and calls it "disturbing".


Yea, I noticed that. Apparently making sure lies about Obama are being rebutted, and hopefully not spread in the first place, is "silencing criticism". Apparently telling the truth is a bad thing....for Obama.
 
Kublai Khan
2008-09-26 7:36:29 PM  

thatvoiceguy: Kublai Khan: Every president ever has breathed air.
McCain breathes air.
OMG MCCAIN WILL WIN!

Did you know he spent 5 and a half years not breathing air?


I think that comes under the umbrella of job creation.
 
shower_in_my_socks
2008-09-26 7:37:52 PM  
Several problems with this theory:

1. It's obvious that McCain has decided to piss all over the media because he has an idiot for a runningmate and he has to have an excuse to keep her away from the press. If he had started playing the media bias card earlier, before Palin went "full retard," he might have pulled it off more successfully. But now it's completely transparent and cynical.

2. McCain has been ripping the media over allegations that are PROVABLE BY FACT. When the New York Times blew the lid off of Rick Davis's ties to Freddie Mac, that story was indisputable. It was undeniable that McCain's campaign had lied when they said Davis had stopped working for them a year ago. But in the face of hard facts, they STILL tried to play the "media bias" card and went after the NYT's credibility. If you're caught in lie after lie after lie, you undermine your ability to say "Oh, those guys are just out to get me!"
 
Geekette
2008-09-26 7:38:14 PM  

darthbandon: What are the chances of that????


My bet's on a 'Bristol pregnancy emergency.' How could America NOT forgive her for skipping the debate to rush to Bristol's side if she goes into labor early?

/Won't someone please think of the children?
 
jayg22
2008-09-26 7:38:20 PM  

darthbandon: I think the debate tonight will be pretty boring (I know mcCain has already won it)..


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/If Obama can sneak in a teleprompter he will wipe the floor with McCain tonight.
 
soy_bomb
2008-09-26 7:38:55 PM  
The press has stood up to Obama...in ovation.
 
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