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(CNN)   Transformer halts Large Hadron Collider test. Unknown at this time if it was Autobot or Decepticon   (cnn.com) divider line
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2008-09-18 3:49:38 PM  
A 30-ton transformer that cools the world's largest particle collider

How exactly does a transformer cool something? I can understand "malfunctioning transformer caused it to heat up", but that doesn't mean "properly working transformer cools things down".
 
2008-09-18 3:59:57 PM  

Theaetetus: A 30-ton transformer that cools the world's largest particle collider

How exactly does a transformer cool something? I can understand "malfunctioning transformer caused it to heat up", but that doesn't mean "properly working transformer cools things down".


From a better article at the Times Online (new window)

One of the beams had been captured by Friday, but work was then interrupted by the loss of electrical transformers that power the cryogenic cooling system, which chills the LHC's superconducting magnets to 1.9C above absolute zero.

It looks like CNN pretty much copied the AP story verbatim.
 
2008-09-18 4:00:30 PM  
Throw him to the Sharkticons Large Hadron Collider.
 
2008-09-18 4:00:31 PM  
Wow, that's about the lamest vehicle mode since the guy that turned into a microscope.
 
2008-09-18 4:18:34 PM  

CowboyNinjaD: Wow, that's about the lamest vehicle mode since the guy that turned into a microscope.


Thank you for that.

I've been sitting on a trade show floor all day and that's my first LOL.
 
2008-09-18 4:21:37 PM  

ChiliBoots: It looks like CNN pretty much copied the AP story verbatim.


Good catch. What tipped you, the "(AP)" byline or the copyright notice at the end?

/The Times article is, indeed, better. Though I'm not ruling out the theory that a T-X terminator got caught up in the superconducting magnets.
 
2008-09-18 4:24:39 PM  
Now they'll never get enough energon cubes to make it back to Cybertron!!!
 
2008-09-18 4:25:17 PM  

CowboyNinjaD: Wow, that's about the lamest vehicle mode since the guy that turned into a microscope.


"I don't get it. It's a robot that turns into a building. What's fun about that?"
 
2008-09-18 4:37:53 PM  

ChiliBoots: loss of electrical transformers that power the cryogenic cooling system


That makes a lot more sense.
 
2008-09-18 4:51:16 PM  
One of the beams had been captured by Friday, but work was then interrupted by the loss of electrical transformers that power the cryogenic cooling system, which chills the LHC's superconducting magnets to 1.9C above absolute zero.

Though technically speaking, it's correct... wouldn't it be easier to say 1.9K?

/I bet it was the transformers, trying to save us from destroying the universe.
 
2008-09-18 5:01:59 PM  
I hope it's not prostate cancer.
 
2008-09-18 5:05:29 PM  

Cagey B: Throw him to the Sharkticons Large Hadron Collider.


Since you got it in my head, I take my wrath on the rest of you:

Stan Bush - Dare

Sometimes when your hopes have all been shattered
And there's nowhere to turn
You wonder how you keep going
Think of all the things that really mattered
And the chances you've earned
The fire in your heart is growing
You can fly, if you try leaving the past behind
Heaven only knows what you might find

Dare - dare to believe you can survive
You hold the future in your hand
Dare - dare to keep all of your dreams alive
It's time to take a stand
And you can win, if you dare

Everybody's trying to break your spirit
Keeping you down
Seems like it's been forever
But there's another voice if you'll just hear it
Saying it's the last round
Looks like it's now or never
Out of the darkness you stumble into the light
Fighting for the things you know are right

Dare - dare to believe you can survive
The power is there at your command
Dare - dare to keep all of your dreams alive
It's time to take a stand
And you can win, if you dare

Dare - dare to believe you can survive
You hold the future in your hand
Dare - dare to keep all of your dreams alive
The power is there at your command

Dare - dare to keep all your love alive
Dare to be all you can be
Dare - 'cause there is a place where dreams survive
And it's calling you on to victory
 
2008-09-18 5:24:35 PM  
FTA: The Large Hadron Collider was launched September 10, when scientists circled a beam of protons in a clockwise direction at the speed of light. That was followed by a counterclockwise beam.

Shouldn't that be 'very near the speed of light'?
 
2008-09-18 6:27:57 PM  
I first read that headline as "Transformer halts Large Hardon Collider test," and had this rather disturbing mental image burned so deep in my psyche that it will take about 2 bottles of Captain Morgan's tonight, just to burn off the vividity (if that's even a word... fark, it is now!).
 
2008-09-18 7:17:01 PM  
I'm going to go with Autobot. It was Optimus Prime trying to stop us from destroying the planet with the LHC.
 
2008-09-18 7:18:03 PM  
Farking robots in disguise.
 
2008-09-18 7:19:21 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: FTA: The Large Hadron Collider was launched September 10, when scientists circled a beam of protons in a clockwise direction at the speed of light. That was followed by a counterclockwise beam.

Shouldn't that be 'very near the speed of light'?


This. Any farking idiot who purports to cover the science desk ought to at least have taken high school physics... science FAIL.
 
2008-09-18 7:19:54 PM  
It smells like they're cooking a god damned cat over there.
 
2008-09-18 7:20:04 PM  
farking Bumblebee.
 
2008-09-18 7:22:41 PM  
I am not sure I have ever seen a fark thread generate so much win, in so little time.
 
2008-09-18 7:23:13 PM  
So when's the Large Hardon Collider test where we all pull a Jody Foster and fly out into space? I want to have my weapons ready and pack a change of underwear. May a bottle of bourbon as well.
 
2008-09-18 7:23:19 PM  
FTFA
"On the evening of September 11, scientists were able to control the counterclockwise beam with equipment that keeps the protons bunched tightly and ready for collisions before the transformer failed and the system was shut down"

Farking Terrorists!!!

/Rudy unavailable for comment...
 
2008-09-18 7:23:21 PM  

CowboyNinjaD: Wow, that's about the lamest vehicle mode since the guy that turned into a microscope.


Perceptor

[image from upload.wikimedia.org too old to be available]

/geek
//though strangely proud I remembered it
 
2008-09-18 7:24:24 PM  
im glad im not the only one picturing Optimus Prime jumpin in there and smacking it saying "dont do that! youll blow up the universe! and we JUST fixed that!!"

Tr0mBoNe: FTA: The Large Hadron Collider was launched September 10, when scientists circled a beam of protons in a clockwise direction at the speed of light. That was followed by a counterclockwise beam.

Shouldn't that be 'very near the speed of light'?


im thinkin its like a giant flash light, the beam immitted produces light, and hence its the speed of light!

/not a physicist
 
2008-09-18 7:27:04 PM  
It's like parents with a new baby. Anything that happens, no matter how boring, is exciting and needs to be reported. It's insanely complicated and it's new. Of course there are going to be lots of malfunctions. If I see constant news reports everytime something goes wrong with the LHC I'm going to poke my eyes out.
 
2008-09-18 7:27:13 PM  
it's Prime's fault: he thought it was the portal to cybertron that Megatron was using to transport Energon cubes, so he sent bumblebee and couple of others.

/geek
 
2008-09-18 7:28:08 PM  

Boritom: I first read that headline as "Transformer halts Large Hardon Collider test," and had this rather disturbing mental image burned so deep in my psyche that it will take about 2 bottles of Captain Morgan's tonight, just to burn off the vividity (if that's even a word... fark, it is now!).


Fark has done it again. New keyboard, please.
 
2008-09-18 7:29:11 PM  

DavePinFL: CowboyNinjaD: Wow, that's about the lamest vehicle mode since the guy that turned into a microscope.

Perceptor

/geek
//though strangely proud I remembered it


couldn't he use the body tube as a cannon?
 
2008-09-18 7:29:48 PM  
when scientists circled a beam of protons in a clockwise direction at the speed of light.

That's what we call a phenomenal concept error.
 
2008-09-18 7:29:58 PM  

shadow9: im thinkin its like a giant flash light, the beam immitted produces light, and hence its the speed of light!

/not a physicist


Protons =\= Photons. One has mass, the other does not (they think).

Imagine launching your car at a wall to smash it apart while you analyze the pieces that fly out to figure out how your car was built.
 
2008-09-18 7:30:37 PM  
nuance

I am not sure I have ever seen a fark thread generate so much win, in so little time.


Not quite.

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OK, now you're right.
 
2008-09-18 7:31:55 PM  
I see your "Dare" lyrics and raise you this.
 
2008-09-18 7:32:58 PM  
Does that mean they now can really, really make a black hole and transform the earth now? Or is that many teeny black holes that will drop to the center of the earth and wait til 2012 to transform us...

/I have a gazillion little transformer toys collecting dust in my attic
//sons grown and moved away and I cannot bring myself to get rid of them
///and the ninja turtle stuff
 
2008-09-18 7:33:39 PM  

mandingueiro: DavePinFL: CowboyNinjaD: Wow, that's about the lamest vehicle mode since the guy that turned into a microscope.

Perceptor

/geek
//though strangely proud I remembered it

couldn't he use the body tube as a cannon?


Fark if I know.. I'm not THAT geeky.
 
2008-09-18 7:34:08 PM  

DavePinFL: CowboyNinjaD: Wow, that's about the lamest vehicle mode since the guy that turned into a microscope.

Perceptor

/geek
//though strangely proud I remembered it


I actually had that toy. I don't know if I should be proud or ashamed.
 
2008-09-18 7:34:24 PM  
Whew, I stand corrected. Barely enough to get through the mental image of the hardon collider though... I might need more, and some of that Captain Morans too.

/morans, lulz
 
2008-09-18 7:34:28 PM  
I remember when my childhood ended. (new window)
 
2008-09-18 7:38:44 PM  
Anyone else remember that story that said that a ripple in time will keep the Hadron collider from ever colliding anything just like several other massive colliders were canceled.
 
2008-09-18 7:40:04 PM  
I want to know what refrigerant they're using. The coldest unit I've ever seen personally was a cryo unit that got down to -90F, and they had to piggyback two units together so the condenser from the inner one bled its heat directly into the evaporator for the other, and from there into the room. It used some weird oddball refrigerant like R-393 or something.

Granted, this is a multibillion-dollar project, not a glorified chest freezer, so it's probably liquid helium or something similarly cool.
 
2008-09-18 7:41:15 PM  
Perceptor would've been awesome if he did more sniper shots and less analyzing things.

He did something awesome once. (new window)
 
2008-09-18 7:41:26 PM  
Optimus heard whispering "oh yeah... shove it in my chest..."
 
2008-09-18 7:42:35 PM  
Looks like they'll need a little energon and a lot of luck!
 
2008-09-18 7:50:29 PM  

Talon: One of the beams had been captured by Friday, but work was then interrupted by the loss of electrical transformers that power the cryogenic cooling system, which chills the LHC's superconducting magnets to 1.9C above absolute zero.

Though technically speaking, it's correct... wouldn't it be easier to say 1.9K?

/I bet it was the transformers, trying to save us from destroying the universe.


C, not kelvin.
 
2008-09-18 7:54:42 PM  

Barakku: Talon: One of the beams had been captured by Friday, but work was then interrupted by the loss of electrical transformers that power the cryogenic cooling system, which chills the LHC's superconducting magnets to 1.9C above absolute zero.

Though technically speaking, it's correct... wouldn't it be easier to say 1.9K?

/I bet it was the transformers, trying to save us from destroying the universe.

C, not kelvin.


1.9C above absolute zero is 1.9 kelvin
 
2008-09-18 8:00:36 PM  
30 Tons... Transformer... Cools things... it was Icepick.
 
2008-09-18 8:02:02 PM  

Hosebeatings: I want to know what refrigerant they're using. The coldest unit I've ever seen personally was a cryo unit that got down to -90F, and they had to piggyback two units together so the condenser from the inner one bled its heat directly into the evaporator for the other, and from there into the room. It used some weird oddball refrigerant like R-393 or something.

Granted, this is a multibillion-dollar project, not a glorified chest freezer, so it's probably liquid helium or something similarly cool.


Liquid helium is pretty common around NMR labs. It's not "cheap" but most medium sized schools can afford a couple refills a year to keep the magnets under 4 kelvin.
 
2008-09-18 8:06:34 PM  
Looks like they'll need a little energon and a lot of luck!

...more than you can imagine, optimus prime.
 
2008-09-18 8:09:16 PM  
I didn't own a lot of Transformers as a kid, but for some reason I had both that are pictured in this thread, Perceptor and Shockwave. Perceptor was an actual functioning microscope, as I recall.
 
2008-09-18 8:11:25 PM  

WolfinPHX: I see your "Dare" lyrics and raise you this.


is it bad that i can sing along with that? that's bad, right?

also, is it just me or does stan bush look a lot like viggo mortensen?
 
2008-09-18 8:45:31 PM  
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